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    After just catching up oin the bulk classic thread I ma going to say it like I see it! Cape has dropped as a judge and I would be shocked if Misery has anything to do with this comp! Admin making it clear that it is not backed or supported by the site! I would like to salvage the comp and perhaps even consider re-entering!

    The 1st suggestion I have is to remove the $ from the situation! Feelings get hurt when $ is involved. If bragging rights and self improvement are not enough motivation then you should reconsider your involment!

    2) perhaps instead of judges, be judged by peers! Everyone in the comp gets 1 vote and not for themselves! OR the judges be a panel from each speciality..1 from nutrition, 1 from staff, 1 from the workout section and so on!

    3) No classes..no weights! Over all improvement END OF STORY! If you use AAS oh well..if you dont oh well! It isn't about your weight or your size or your strenght...its over all best improvement!

    Thes are a few of my suggestions....I would hate to see this not happen and I would hate to see everyone not be able to get along and collectively make fun of Dan at the end!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Capebuffalo
    I excuse myself as a judge.

    Good luck guys. Kick ass.
    Why??... The more judges the better!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan68131

    Can you please check on my ability to upload pics? Issue in the "forum issues" section.
    Same here I haven't been able to up load pix to my profile since jan of 2011

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1
    After just catching up oin the bulk classic thread I ma going to say it like I see it! Cape has dropped as a judge and I would be shocked if Misery has anything to do with this comp! Admin making it clear that it is not backed or supported by the site! I would like to salvage the comp and perhaps even consider re-entering!

    The 1st suggestion I have is to remove the $ from the situation! Feelings get hurt when $ is involved. If bragging rights and self improvement are not enough motivation then you should reconsider your involment!

    2) perhaps instead of judges, be judged by peers! Everyone in the comp gets 1 vote and not for themselves! OR the judges be a panel from each speciality..1 from nutrition, 1 from staff, 1 from the workout section and so on!

    3) No classes..no weights! Over all improvement END OF STORY! If you use AAS oh well..if you dont oh well! It isn't about your weight or your size or your strenght...its over all best improvement!

    Thes are a few of my suggestions....I would hate to see this not happen and I would hate to see everyone not be able to get along and collectively make fun of Dan at the end!
    Totally agree with you on all three points.

    I think my two points should be taken into consideration

    1: a standard 8 picture "before " photos with the same 8 poses at the end to show differences achieved

    2: a clear definition on what competitors should be striving for.

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    The 1st suggestion I have is to remove the $ from the situation! Feelings get hurt when $ is involved. If bragging rights and self improvement

    Hey I'm a bodybuilder on a budget..... Anything helps....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR-FQ320 View Post
    Totally agree with you on all three points.

    I think my two points should be taken into consideration

    1: a standard 8 picture "before " photos with the same 8 poses at the end to show differences achieved

    2: a clear definition on what competitors should be striving for.
    Point 1 is a given...no argument here
    Point #2....simple (most overall improvement to their appearance) can be cutting, bulking, recomp ar just shaving your ass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by human project View Post
    Why??... The more judges the better!!!
    Because judging someone is an individual and subjective thing. No 2 people look for the exact same thing. I'm watching the decisions of the judges be questioned and now their integrity and mine it seems. This one experience has been enough for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Point 1 is a given...no argument here
    Point #2....simple (most overall improvement to their appearance) can be cutting, bulking, recomp ar just shaving your ass!
    i think this is the reason someone signed me up!

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    I have to agree with lunk's proposed ideas, as well as mrfq. It would make things more fair, but it needs to be public, and since no money there will be less incentive for people to cheat or band together to up vote one person.

    I don't care about the money in the bulk classic. It wasn't about that, I like competition and I wasn't planning on a paycheck just to do my best.

    Also categories is a good idea to remove like was said. How do you enforce someone claiming all natural? Not to mention weight classes shouldn't matter if people are doing their best to judge fairly and according to before and afters.

    I plan to sit this one out as I need to maintain for a bit. I'll be hitting it hard but don't want the pressure yet.

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    One more point : Multiple threads !

    I got slammed for making no improvement after I put on 26lbs ! I posted the scale picture in what I thought was the correct thread only for it to be missed by judges, if we only had one photo thread it would have been simple but no, we had to have a trash talk thread, an opening pictures thread, a halfway through pictures thread, an official thread and a closing pictures thread, all of which got contaminated with BS talk anyway. Lets have a pictures thread and a talking thread and the rules clearly outlined in bold capitals at the start of each one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR-FQ320 View Post
    One more point : Multiple threads !

    I got slammed for making no improvement after I put on 26lbs ! I posted the scale picture in what I thought was the correct thread only for it to be missed by judges, if we only had one photo thread it would have been simple but no, we had to have a trash talk thread, an opening pictures thread, a halfway through pictures thread, an official thread and a closing pictures thread, all of which got contaminated with BS talk anyway. Lets have a pictures thread and a talking thread and the rules clearly outlined in bold capitals at the start of each one.
    ^^ agreed. Any posts that don't adhere to the rules of said thread should be deleted so as to avoid 'contamination' and/or spam.

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    Thanks GB, are you going to be involved in some way ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by human project View Post
    Im down... i will literally tuck my shit between my legs and pose for ya bub...
    Its on! Me vs. You on a side bet. Entire forum to vote on beginning and end pics on a 3 day poll. Loser has to wear a bikini and take pics and post on forum for no less than 7 days before taking them down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan68131 View Post
    Its on! Me vs. You on a side bet. Entire forum to vote on beginning and end pics on a 3 day poll. Loser has to wear a bikini and take pics and post on forum for no less than 7 days before taking them down.
    Dan...c'mon??? Is that the safest bet to make? Members in this forum voting on YOUR fate??? I thought you were smarter lol!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR-FQ320 View Post
    Thanks GB, are you going to be involved in some way ?
    Not sure at this point MR, but we shall see!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    Dan...c'mon??? Is that the safest bet to make? Members in this forum voting on YOUR fate??? I thought you were smarter lol!!
    it won't matter because my before & after pics will be so drastic that they will belong on one of those 3:00 am diet pill commercials. I'm not scared....

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    is this still going ahead? Misery kinda said in the other thread that he is not interested any more...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    is this still going ahead? Misery kinda said in the other thread that he is not interested any more...
    I have spoke briefly to admin and hopefully there will be no problem with continueing! I think some lessons may have been learned in the other comp that warrant a few changes but it shouldnt change much?

    Haven't seen your name on there yet AD

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    How about its just a poll.... open for a week... votes speak for themselves..... the public is the judges. Anyone that is a forum member can vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan68131 View Post
    How about its just a poll.... open for a week... votes speak for themselves..... the public is the judges. Anyone that is a forum member can vote.
    Similiar to what I suggested...that the contestants vote! I'm afraid the poll would be more of a popularity contest and we all know you would win one of those hands down Danny!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    I have spoke briefly to admin and hopefully there will be no problem with continueing! I think some lessons may have been learned in the other comp that warrant a few changes but it shouldnt change much?

    Haven't seen your name on there yet AD
    not me. i hate losing. so i rather not compete! lol

    one way around the problem is to have more judges, so that the scores when averaged out will be more balanced. maybe even take out the highest and lowest scores and average out the rest. and judges cannot drop out. or any judges that drop out have to be replaced.

    before my time, i think there was a Transformation Comp. wonder how that one went, and why no lessons learned...

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    Just an idea on judges. The elite hof and green vets vote. All of them who are currently active. That should give us about 8 judges. Just an idea. I like the poll idea, but I'm not popular enough to win. Dan comes back for 2 weeks and has ten girlfriends.... go figure

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    OK...contestants weigh in!

    Option #1 stay with volunteer judges

    Option #2 recruit senior judges from Mods, Vets and Hof's

    Option #3 contestants judge each other (one vote per contestant, not for themselves)

    Option #4 Poll

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth
    Just an idea on judges. The elite hof and green vets vote. All of them who are currently active. That should give us about 8 judges. Just an idea. I like the poll idea, but I'm not popular enough to win. Dan comes back for 2 weeks and has ten girlfriends.... go figure
    10 gf. Really. Where???? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by warmouth View Post
    Just an idea on judges. The elite hof and green vets vote. All of them who are currently active. That should give us about 8 judges. Just an idea. I like the poll idea, but I'm not popular enough to win. Dan comes back for 2 weeks and has ten girlfriends.... go figure
    at first i thought getting more staff involved may be a good idea. but since admin has disown the previous comp, i'm not sure what is their official stand on this. and the 2 judges who didnt vote on the last comp were both staff...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post

    at first i thought getting more staff involved may be a good idea. but since admin has disown the previous comp, i'm not sure what is their official stand on this. and the 2 judges who didnt vote on the last comp were both staff...
    Dang. What could we do to get admin on board? I know a few ruined the last one, but this could be a great thing for this site and bring in more people. I've had 2 more friends sign up since the weigh in. This next comp will have the bugs worked out.

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    is this one or off?... sounds like a bunch of excuses so you clowns dont have to get your asses handed to you by none other than myself...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knockout_Power View Post
    is this one or off?... sounds like a bunch of excuses so you clowns dont have to get your asses handed to you by none other than myself...
    Lets hope it's on. We need to sweet talk admin and staff. I'd rather them support this than not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AD View Post
    at first i thought getting more staff involved may be a good idea. but since admin has disown the previous comp, i'm not sure what is their official stand on this. and the 2 judges who didnt vote on the last comp were both staff...
    That's correct sir.

    And to the comment above about dividing staff up ... Seriously? Staff is staff, regardless of color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettester View Post

    That's correct sir.

    And to the comment above about dividing staff up ... Seriously? Staff is staff, regardless of color.
    I wasnt dividing staff. I said elite hof and green vets that are currently active. That would give about 8 judges. It wasnt meant to divide staff, it was just an idea to get 8 judges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1 View Post
    OK...contestants weigh in!

    Option #1 stay with volunteer judges

    Option #2 recruit senior judges from Mods, Vets and Hof's

    Option #3 contestants judge each other (one vote per contestant, not for themselves)

    Option #4 Poll
    Option 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by dan68131

    Its on! Me vs. You on a side bet. Entire forum to vote on beginning and end pics on a 3 day poll. Loser has to wear a bikini and take pics and post on forum for no less than 7 days before taking them down.
    Ok so this is who looks better and more is more conditioned???... Lol ooooookkkkkk bub I'm in



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1

    Dan...c'mon??? Is that the safest bet to make? Members in this forum voting on YOUR fate??? I thought you were smarter lol!!
    Like he could achieve better condition then me ever anyway??... i think its bc my pics havent been added to my page in like what?? 2 years???? sorry i was 22 there.









    Normal bicep Dan.... And my forarm.... U sure you really wanna do this??
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan68131

    it won't matter because my before & after pics will be so drastic that they will belong on one of those 3:00 am diet pill commercials. I'm not scared....
    That's the whole point I've been trying to make in this entire fourm that who gives a shit if you can go from looking like a normal Jo to being 12%bf with a 200lb frame.... Like that's impressive.... I could take pics of me at 18 and you'd probably say the before afters wern't that impressive.. Well as long as you were talking about "condition" that is.

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    Please delete the pic! It is very inappropriate for this site! Enough said!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lunk1
    Please delete the pic! It is very inappropriate for this site! Enough said!!!!!
    I keep trying I uploaded the wrong one

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    Quote Originally Posted by human project View Post
    Like he could achieve better condition then me ever anyway??... i think its bc my pics havent been added to my page in like what?? 2 years???? sorry i was 22 there.









    Normal bicep Dan.... And my forarm.... U sure you really wanna do this??
    Damn, that's good stuff HP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettester

    Damn, that's good stuff HP!
    Lol I seriously never noticed that... Someone sent it to me a long time ago and I forgot about that one... Its kinda hard to see my pics when I upload from my phone.. Whatever were on a frekin roid blog for god sake.... How you think I eat so damn much???

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    So, I only read the first few posts and the last page.........but I'm interested if this actually gets going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by human project View Post
    Lol I seriously never noticed that... Someone sent it to me a long time ago and I forgot about that one... Its kinda hard to see my pics when I upload from my phone.. Whatever were on a frekin roid blog for god sake.... How you think I eat so damn much???
    Just dont think admin would approve of pics of MJ being posted on this site since even discussion is not allowed!

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