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02-18-2013, 12:33 PM #321Banned
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02-18-2013, 12:39 PM #322
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02-18-2013, 12:52 PM #323
SS...looked GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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02-18-2013, 01:12 PM #324Not Here
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02-18-2013, 01:22 PM #325
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02-18-2013, 01:59 PM #327Originally Posted by MickeyKnox~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
"It's human nature in a 'more is better' society full of a younger generation that expects instant gratification, then complain when they don't get it. The problem will get far worse before it gets better". ~ kelkel
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02-18-2013, 02:06 PM #328Banned
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Im Canadian. We use a dictionary, not some obscure urban slang.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/whiz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiz_Kids
p.s. did you notice my new title? seems fitting, doesn't it? lol
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02-18-2013, 02:53 PM #329Banned
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Here's Cape after he discovers that SEOINAGE actually won the contest.. (haha i couldn't resist bro)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTiiMnidtkc
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02-18-2013, 02:59 PM #330
I'm not defending or bashing anyone her but I honestly have SS at #1! Seonage put on mass no doubt but if putting on mass was the ONLY requirement then a winner he was indead! I assume there were more judging perameters than just who put on the most weight! Cape looks good but he did not have the drastic change in body comp I see in SS!
I am going to look harder at the pics cause I'm not sure I see the issue here???
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02-18-2013, 03:08 PM #331
That IS the issue
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02-18-2013, 03:11 PM #332
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02-18-2013, 03:18 PM #333Originally Posted by MickeyKnox
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"It's human nature in a 'more is better' society full of a younger generation that expects instant gratification, then complain when they don't get it. The problem will get far worse before it gets better". ~ kelkel
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02-18-2013, 03:20 PM #334
It was three parts lunk. Muscle mass 1-5, body fat 1-5, overall 1-5. Then minus or bonus points depending on where you were at with the 15 lb requirement. I thought it was all those based on before and after photos. So changes in muscle mass, changes in body fat, overall changes, but maybe they judged it differently I dunno.
To me a bulk is putting on as much muscle as you can while keeping body fat from escalating as little as possible. It really is how the body works, especially from a natural stand point you gotta eat to actually get muscle to grow even if some fat follows, ask buttery. I know I didn't meet people's standards of stay under 15% bf before starting, but I did lose 23 lbs of fat prior not counting the water weight i lost for start pictures, and I cut several weeks into start of comp.
No doubt a lot of the competitors looked great, but the two that stood out to me the most were SS and BigZ, not saying others didn't bust their asses as I liked a lot of the results people came up with. But when I saw their pics I went dafuq am I going to do now. Definitely they look great, I can't tell a ton from SS before shots, and he didn't submit as many during as some others. but BigZ was easy to tell the changes he made. And some of the other smaller competitors you could see the changes very pronounced.
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02-18-2013, 03:24 PM #335
You guys all look great... who cares who won....
Last edited by dan991; 02-18-2013 at 04:11 PM.
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02-18-2013, 03:26 PM #336
Also I thought for sure i would be getting top numbers for muscle mass from each judge but I know one judge said there was not much change in my frame from my before and after pics. Bod pod time soon as i can, really cause I thought otherwise, so need to make sure I'm doing things right.
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02-18-2013, 03:27 PM #337Banned
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02-18-2013, 03:27 PM #338
Mis sent out the number breakdown from each judge. I'll post them up when I get a chance.
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02-18-2013, 03:28 PM #339Banned
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02-18-2013, 03:30 PM #340
Yes...I see your concern. I can only say that my comments are based on the overall body transformation from before and after! Not the scoring criteria. I am in you boat with BF and not looking like 13% yet being satisfied with great accomplishments as weel so I see your point!
I saw the most overall improvement in SS, Big Z did very weel and has great size but added size was not as noticeable (to me)! Milky impressed me as well! Mostly because he didnt kill himself with a needle . Cape showed his experience and lost some BF but again I did not see the huge increase in lean mass I saw with SS!
I would have had to deduct major points on Buttery because of those birth control glasses lol...looked good though!
At the end of the day...judging ppl is a thankless job and judging their appearance after they put in so much hard work is even more thankless! You all should be very proud and as long as you reached your personal goals...then you are a weiner...I mean winner
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02-18-2013, 03:30 PM #341
People are challenging how they were graded. Who gives a shit... its a contest on the internet which if anything is nothing more than motivation and shit talking rights if you're the undisputed winner. Its like arguing a bad call at a kids soccer game... who gives a shit. All the kids won, they all get ice cream.
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02-18-2013, 03:32 PM #342
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02-18-2013, 03:33 PM #343
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02-18-2013, 03:35 PM #344
K I'm pissed now, I didn't get no damn ice cream.
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02-18-2013, 03:36 PM #345
i think one major issue is the bonus points. Everyone was told there was bonus points and 1 person decided after the contest was over to say "fvck it" with the bonus points. That wasnt the contest rules and 1 person shouldnt be able to change it after its over and not tell anyone until it was questioned.
i agree everyone did a good jobIf people can't tell your on steroids then your doing them wrong
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02-18-2013, 03:36 PM #346Originally Posted by dan68131
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02-18-2013, 03:37 PM #347
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02-18-2013, 03:38 PM #348
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02-18-2013, 03:39 PM #349Originally Posted by S&S_ShovelHead
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02-18-2013, 03:40 PM #350
That's not what it's about. Some judges didn't judge, judging was done by just three judges. Bonus and minus points too were just thrown out of the criteria. Other factors that just make you go hmm. Other issues with who donated money etc. nothing wrong with people posting their opinions on who looked the best.
As for people getting upset as a judge, I'm sorry that is just how it works, you almost always end up with complaints, you just gotta be ready to deal with them. It's like this with anything when someone has to choose a person over another person for something. Especially on the internet it is easy to voice your opinion. I only talked with one judge, and got his opinion and expressed mine, I certainly don't think I was out of line with him. We always have a lot to learn and I know what things I can work on, I just took a different approach than the judge thought I should have, but I don't regret it.
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02-18-2013, 03:40 PM #351Originally Posted by Lunk1
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02-18-2013, 03:41 PM #352Originally Posted by Lunk1
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02-18-2013, 03:42 PM #353
Ice cream hell score cards are posted. No comments on those.
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02-18-2013, 03:43 PM #354Banned
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I see it a bit differently. I see several men who paid to enter a contest and work their butts off for several months likely making some sacrifices to their families and friends. And these men are simply interested in knowing how this contest was scored and how they placed after all this hard work. Asking for answers is not asking for much.
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02-18-2013, 03:46 PM #355
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02-18-2013, 03:47 PM #356Banned
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02-18-2013, 03:49 PM #358
Well that is kind of what I expected. No offfense to you cape, but one judge scored you perfect, but then next best was a 10, and then put ss down to an 8. How you have a 5 point difference amongst competitors makes me think this person really wanted their vote for you to count. You looked good, but I don't see how you were that much better than everyone else.Last edited by SEOINAGE; 02-18-2013 at 03:54 PM.
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02-18-2013, 03:49 PM #359
None of you fat asses get ice cream... that's the last thing any of you need
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