Tron's get BIG or die tryin log

[Tron3219]

Goddamn Tron, you are ****ing huge! I remember when I first joined this forum, and you were the first member to give me quality advice. That was only three months ago, but you've gotten huge since then. Good work. I am glad I took your advice because you clearly know what you are talking about. Keep up the good work!

3 months ago I was at the end of a natty cut with low 300test levels. I lost a considerable amount of mass doing that and was just deflated and flat. But have fine tuned MY diet for ME.

How's ur progress going?

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[Knockout_Power]

I've been at 4000 calories for about 14ish weeks now. I hadn't noticed fat gains (not much, but more so) since I upped my protein and decreased my fat intake.

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you're crazy.... I cant seem to intake more than around 2400 without hitting McDs for lunch.

[Tron3219]

you're crazy.... I cant seem to intake more than around 2400 without hitting McDs for lunch.

with fairness, my foods are pretty rich in fat. the pound of salmon i eat is almost 1/4 of my calories. my "shakes" are 600 a piece. thats half my cals right there. no sweat

[Knockout_Power]

with fairness, my foods are pretty rich in fat. the pound of salmon i eat is almost 1/4 of my calories. my "shakes" are 600 a piece. thats half my cals right there. no sweat

mass gainer shakes dont agree with me, my body does not respond well to all the filler and sugar... which are you using?

[Tron3219]

mass gainer shakes dont agree with me, my body does not respond well to all the filler and sugar... which are you using?

come on man...give me some credit...geesh...

i dont use premade mass gainer shakes...

8oz egg whites - 133 cals, 26.65g pro, 2.66g carbs, 0 fat
1 scoop whey isolate - 115 cals, 27g pro, 1g carbs, 0 fat
1 scoop casein - 12 cals, 24g pro, 3g carbs, 1g fat
2 tbsp walnut oil - 240 cals, 0 pro, 0 carbs, 28g fat
2 tbsp flax seed - 80 cals, 3g pro, 4g carbs, 6g fat

580 cals, 80.65g pro, 10.66 carbs (5 of which are fiber i believe), 35g fat (mono and poly)

[basketballfan22]

come on man...give me some credit...geesh...

i dont use premade mass gainer shakes...

8oz egg whites - 133 cals, 26.65g pro, 2.66g carbs, 0 fat
1 scoop whey isolate - 115 cals, 27g pro, 1g carbs, 0 fat
1 scoop casein - 12 cals, 24g pro, 3g carbs, 1g fat
2 tbsp walnut oil - 240 cals, 0 pro, 0 carbs, 28g fat
2 tbsp flax seed - 80 cals, 3g pro, 4g carbs, 6g fat

580 cals, 80.65g pro, 10.66 carbs (5 of which are fiber i believe), 35g fat (mono and poly)

I am going to have to "steal" this from you. I might replace walnut oil with olive oil though primarily because I don't have walnut oil. How does this taste Tron?

[basketballfan22]

3 months ago I was at the end of a natty cut with low 300test levels. I lost a considerable amount of mass doing that and was just deflated and flat. But have fine tuned MY diet for ME.

How's ur progress going?

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Yeah, I recall. My progress is going SLOWLY but surely, haha. Currently I am finding it difficult to fight my temptation to start my first cycle of AAS, but I am feeling better about it today.

[Tron3219]

Yeah, I recall. My progress is going SLOWLY but surely, haha. Currently I am finding it difficult to fight my temptation to start my first cycle of AAS, but I am feeling better about it today.

Ur trying to gain mass right?
What kind of changes have u had in 3 months?

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[Knockout_Power]

come on man...give me some credit...geesh...

I dont have to give you any credit... your pics speak for themselves... you have freakish genetics and the knowledge to take it even further...

PS- I hate you

[Tron3219]

I dont have to give you any credit...your pics speak for themselves... you have freakish genetics and the knowledge to take it even further...

PS- I hate you

some people seem to think idk what im doing because my choice of diet

but in my eyes, results are all that matter!

no need for hate brother! im not gonna win this thing lol

[Knockout_Power]

Diet is way to body specific for someone else to dictate what will work for another. There are general baselines that will help a novice learn how to gain, but nothing replaces self knowledge of which diet works for a specific individual.

If I actually posted my diet, the nutrition gurus would tear me a new one....

I guess we shall see in 7 weeks.

[Tron3219]

Diet is way to body specific for someone else to dictate what will work for another. There are general baselines that will help a novice learn how to gain, but nothing replaces self knowledge of which diet works for a specific individual.

If I actually posted my diet, the nutrition gurus would tear me a new one....

I guess we shall see in 7 weeks.

i dont consider myself a guru, but i like to think i have enough knowledge about the subject to get me by lol

i just dont believe a damn thing the "nutritional studies" say, today one says this, tomorrow another say the exact opposite. i mean the field is steady progressing, but like you said, the body is to user specific. there is no clear cut way to do something.

1+3=4
2+2=4
2.25+1.75=4

it all depends on the variables given to you on how u reach the end result.

this non-guru would actually like to see ur diet!


and who the hell is siggy?

[Papa Smurf]

Whats Up T See we are talking diets............My 02 cents, If you like the way you look eating chips ahoy, then god bless those Keepler Elves!!!

[Tron3219]

Whats Up T See we are talking diets............My 02 cents, If you like the way you look eating chips ahoy, then god bless those Keepler Elves!!!

I wish I could eat chips ahoys an look like I do! I'd b in HEEEEEEEEEAVEN!!!

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[Papa Smurf]

Yea..................Had my Big cheat meal after the gym today (see log update) and the about 30 mins ago, my body rejected it.........

And I do mean REJECTED it !!!!!

[Tron3219]

Yea..................Had my Big cheat meal after the gym today (see log update) and the about 30 mins ago, my body rejected it.........

And I do mean REJECTED it !!!!!

Had the shits? Lol

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[Capebuffalo]

What's for dinner fatty?

[Tron3219]

Yo momma

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[Capebuffalo]

Yo momma

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Mmmmm. Salty yet sweet. Tell her I said Hey

[Tron3219]

Mmmmm. Salty yet sweet. Tell her I said Hey

Haha u soooo naaaaaaaasty

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[Alright john]

Good thread and good going you look well

[Papa Smurf]

Wow we go from the shits to somebodys Mama!!!! Sad

[Tron3219]

Good thread and good going you look well

Good thread? Thanks but its a bunch of rubbish lol

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[Tron3219]

Wow we go from the shits to somebodys Mama!!!! Sad

Surprised u how? Lol

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[Papa Smurf]

Good thread? Thanks but its a bunch of rubbish lol

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He's an FNG Tron !! easily impressed with large traps and defined bis

[Tron3219]

He's an FNG Tron !! easily impressed with large traps and defined bis

Hell in STILL impressed with large traps and defined bis! Where r they? I didn't know u posted a pic in my thread papa

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[Tron3219]

Check out that guy on my trap! I've never seen that booger before! Gdevines supplements for vascularity is amazing!



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[basketballfan22]

Ur trying to gain mass right?
What kind of changes have u had in 3 months?

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Honestly, not too much. I have put on about 4 pounds, but it is primarily lean muscle. I just started taking micronized creatine for the first time ever, so I will see what kind of effect this will have on me. I read that not everyone gets bloated; so as long as it doesn't bloat me up and I experience a positive effect, then I will continue to take it.

I am upping my protein intake even more too. I just started adding pasteurized egg whites into some of my shakes, so hopefully I will continue to put on a little more mass.

[basketballfan22]

I was taking around 260 grams of protein per day, but I will increase it closer to the 300-gram range.

[basketballfan22]

Diet is way to body specific for someone else to dictate what will work for another. There are general baselines that will help a novice learn how to gain, but nothing replaces self knowledge of which diet works for a specific individual.

If I actually posted my diet, the nutrition gurus would tear me a new one....

I guess we shall see in 7 weeks.

I definitely agree with this. Getting advice from knowledgeable sources is great and helpful early on; but in the end, you know your body better than anyone else. I am still trying to improve my diet by adding pieces of advice here and there. I have made changes to my diet in the past and experienced major changes, but I am in a position where I need to change a few things up again to continue my gains.

[Knockout_Power]

Check out that guy on my trap! I've never seen that booger before! Gdevines supplements for vascularity is amazing!



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man, where the hell did you go? You not quitting are you?

[Knockout_Power]

I was taking around 260 grams of protein per day, but I will increase it closer to the 300-gram range.

260g of protein is good for a person with a LBM of 170-180lb

[basketballfan22]

260g of protein is good for a person with a LBM of 170-180lb

That's what I thought, but I am finding it hard to put on more muscle. I really want to keep my bodyfat low, so I thought I would give this a shot.

[Tron3219]

man, where the hell did you go? You not quitting are you?

No, just a temporary hiatus.

For fvcks sake ppl, it's gone. whine about something else.

[Tron3219]

That's what I thought, but I am finding it hard to put on more muscle. I really want to keep my bodyfat low, so I thought I would give this a shot.

Just keep doing what your doing. 4 pounds of lean muscle naturally in 3 months is good. If anything just increase your caloric intake slightly. If ur gaining muscle and not fat, your macro split agrees with you.

For fvcks sake ppl, it's gone. whine about something else.

[Sgt. Hartman]

What's gone?

[Back In Black]

What's gone?

Ha ha, chomp chomp chomp, clink clink clink

[Capebuffalo]

Salty fish nuts for dinner?

[Tron3219]

Salty fish nuts for dinner?

Ha nah that was lunch!

Had some beef nuts tonight!

[Tron3219]

Stepped on scale at 234 today...

Been on this blast for 2 weeks now, in total for 12. Fear gains are starting to slow, hopefully the npp I added will kick in high gear soon. Slowly starting to notice more and more fat gains after being in about 1000 cal surplus. Thinking of dialing it back a notch or may say fvck it so I see that ever evading 240...
...but not liking this fat gain....