Ever look around and notice how fat

[diesel101]

I'm the exact same. I gotta fight to gain weight.

I hate you ! Lol

[diesel101]

I thank god for a fast metabolism. I can pretty eat whatever I want and a lately I been doing just that !

And you!

[Java Man]

lmfao. Took me a second...

At least I'm not laying on the couch naked!!

What? I am... something wrong with that?

[DSM4Life]

What? I am... something wrong with that?

....hello

[Rwy]

U wanna talk about feeling like shit after eating something? Try eating Clean..... And I mean CLEAN for 5-6 weeks and then go eat a crave case from white castle.

As if that feeling isn't bad enough..... It carries over to the next day with diarrhea lol

I had white castle a few years ago when I was fat and it made me feel AWFUL. I will never eat it again

[Gaspari1255]

The problem isn't really obesity, it's the problem that everyone is so WEAK. Fat people are weak because they have no will power and cannot control their hunger. Drug addicts and alcoholics are weak because they can't say no or find another way to cope with their issues....I despise weak-minded people.

[< <Samson> >]

People? What people? Here in the US there's plenty of sheeple but not so many people left.

It's pretty simple, society makes the sheeple. You have to go to work for xx hours per week, you have no time for yourself including preparing anything even semi good for yourself. So, what do we the sheeple do? We stop at the greasy spot that's located on three of the four corners of every intersection.

Society is a machine & we are the bolts and nuts holding it together.

Breaking this cycle is damn near impossible. We only try, but most of the time fail and get sucked right back into the machine.


Yet, of course this does not apply to everyone. I would say about 5% are wealthy enough to a point to where their money works for them so they can break from the machine whenever they'd like.

How many straight up fat doctors have you seen? Cops and everything else in the middle. It's not really because they want to be fat. They are just to busy with their machined life to do anything for themselves. & of course the sheeple are weak. Who can resist getting full(in garbage) real fast after a hard ass days work and for only 5 Bucks? I know I couldn't when I was pushing 220 at like 40% Bf.

Just the way it is. & breaking the cycle is extremely difficult.

[gearbox]

It also comes with desire. I understand everyone is busy. But I have never met someone so busy they cant buy something from grocery store for lunch rather then McDonald's.
If you want to change you make it possible. It is all about if you want to make the sacrifice and most do not. I understand why too. You said it above. Their busy. Its easier. Saves time. Tastes amazing. Everyone else is doing it, so convenience. And we are not even getting into the social aspects of eating. Everything is lets go out to dinner and talk etc..

[< <Samson> >]

It also comes with desire. I understand everyone is busy. But I have never met someone so busy they cant buy something from grocery store for lunch rather then McDonald's.
If you want to change you make it possible. It is all about if you want to make the sacrifice and most do not. I understand why too. You said it above. Their busy. Its easier. Saves time. Tastes amazing. Everyone else is doing it, so convenience. And we are not even getting into the social aspects of eating. Everything is lets go out to dinner and talk etc..

This adds even more to my post. Social aspects alone are just fvcking crap. Lets go to happy hour - - - man, fvck you. I rather take my steroids and go to the gym and look at some real hot women than go to a appleBees and reenact a scene from Waiting.

And everything is designed to suck the sheeple in. Just like you said, it tastes great - well yeah, it was designed in a lab environment with just the right amount of sodium and sweetener to make you crave that shit. And of course - we'll make it way easy to have access to and still be cheaper than a real piece of meat.

It is very hard to look away from the sheeple filled world we live in. It's like the Matrix, but backwards and bigger.

Not much else to it really. Just think how much more difficult it is for most "people" to stay lean and fit compared to just giving in and stopping by Little Caesars on the way home and feeding the whole family for under 20 Bucks coming home and plopping your fat office pancake ass on the couch.

I lived off that shit for years when I was younger. It tastes decent and it is way cheaper and more readily accessible than real whole food.

[JAB1]

The problem isn't really obesity, it's the problem that everyone is so WEAK. Fat people are weak because they have no will power and cannot control their hunger. Drug addicts and alcoholics are weak because they can't say no or find another way to cope with their issues....I despise weak-minded people.

THis is a very ignorant statement. I dispise ignorant people......

[Gaspari1255]

Being fat is a choice. Being a drunk is a choice. People never want to take responsibility for their own actions..It's always someone else's fault...It humors me when people say alcoholism or obesity is a "disease". That's just another excuse people throw around to avoid taking fault.

[kelkel]

Check this link. You two can debate this one for a long while! Obesity as a disease, the ADA and EEOC.

Obesity Likely to Become 'Disability' Under ADA | Legal News | Lawyers.com

[gearbox]

Check this link. You two can debate this one for a long while! Obesity as a disease, the ADA and EEOC.

Obesity Likely to Become 'Disability' Under ADA | Legal News | Lawyers.com

Wow...

[Gaspari1255]

Wow...

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[< <Samson> >]

Obesity a disease - Fvcking tards


Are some people more prone to getting fat compared to others? Yes, of course. . . . But, that doesn't mean that their lard liden ass won't shrink if you stop eating shit.

[V-ROID]

I coined the term "Self Induced Handicap" (SIH) over 10 years ago. Any morbid applying for a handicap permit ought to be forced to park at the far end of the lot. Applying for a "Frivolous Permit".

[Sgt. Hartman]

Being fat is a choice. Being a drunk is a choice. People never want to take responsibility for their own actions..It's always someone else's fault...It humors me when people say alcoholism or obesity is a "disease". That's just another excuse people throw around to avoid taking fault.

You sound like me, I've always said alcoholism isn't a disease it's a choice. Some people are physically addicted to alcohol but it was their choice to become that way. They did it to themselves. What other disease do people choose, how can a person choose to have a disease? The "alcoholics" who aren't physically addicted to it have even less of a defense, for them it's a choice they make everyday - whether they want to be a productive member of society or a drunk.

Same principles for obesity imo. I have no sympathy for either.

[kelkel]

Unless there's a medical condition it's basically a lack of self discipline. Really what else can it be?

[Sgt. Hartman]

THis is a very ignorant statement. I dispise ignorant people......

I DESPISE ignorant people as well......lmfao.

[V-ROID]

Unless there's a medical condition is basically a lack of self discipline. Really what else can it be?

I am not convinced that there actually is a "condition" that makes a person gain weight without consuming extra calories. I have seen countless documentaries throughout the years highlighting the starvation of many populations on several continents and not once did I see an obese person that defied science waddling around in the background. Maybe they became lunch before the cameras arrived?

[< <Samson> >]

Well, here's the only sad argument I got for the fatties. Are we addicted to sauce? Can we just stop?

Maybe the fatty thinks the same thing but backwards. I dunno, same goes for the alcy. They form a chemical dependency on the booze then it's very hard to physically stop.

[Sgt. Hartman]

There are many medical conditions that can make it harder to stay lean or lose weight but I'm unaware of it if there's one that superceeds the calories in minus calories out principle.

[JAB1]

I DESPISE ignorant people as well......lmfao.

It was not to long ago that multiple members of this site, some vets, potsed on a thread about their addictions and their commitment to recovery. To post on here that anyone with an addiction is WEAK, is in my oppinion ignorant and out of line....

[kelkel]

There are many medical conditions that can make it harder to stay lean or lose weight but I'm unaware of it if there's one that superceeds the calories in minus calories out principle.

Love that.

[Igifuno]

There are 3 overweight personal trainers are my gym, one of them is straight up disgusting. I try to keep to myself, but when I saw this kid downing a footlong meatball subway, chips and a fountain drink during his break, I was completely appalled.

If I were the manager there, there would be a conversation where his own fitness goals would be implemented and, if not achieved, he would need to be exited out. There is no way I would have a PT training and giving fitness advice to my customers looking like that. Get on a damn treadmill kid and have a little pride.

[< <Samson> >]

Yeah, fat trainers are the best. Isn't that a oxymoron of the decade - a fat out of shape trainer. WTF? I want to be trained by that guy to what? Look like em'


Yeah, that's one of the best for sure. Seriously there's maybe 2 trainers out of like 10 at my gym that are fit and look the part. The rest are just out of shape, look like twigs or just plain out fat.

[Gaspari1255]

I hate when people say "obesity runs in my family." The problem is that NO ONE runs in your family.

[DCI]

I do wonder, what motivates people to get like that? Is it pure lazyness? Lack of education? Or just they enjoy their "look" etc


Being obese is not a great thing health wise as well all know but do these people realise what crap is really in their food?

Over here we had a horse meat scare in pre packed frozen food dinners, burgers etc, due to the above scare sales of the above are down 50% year on year after the revalation, so what are these people buying instead now?

[Gaspari1255]

I do wonder, what motivates people to get like that? Is it pure lazyness? Lack of education? Or just they enjoy their "look" etc


Being obese is not a great thing health wise as well all know but do these people realise what crap is really in their food?

Over here we had a horse meat scare in pre packed frozen food dinners, burgers etc, due to the above scare sales of the above are down 50% year on year after the revalation, so what are these people buying instead now?

I think it boils down to just not giving a fvck and assuming that you are at the point of no return, so why stop?

I've been really obese when I was in my teens. I knew how to diet properly, I knew how to work out, and I knew that I looked like shit - but I didn't really care. I wasn't misguided or ignorant. I woke up one day, looked in the mirror, and said to myself: "I'm sick of being a fat fvck", so I made a change.

[Gaspari1255]

It was not to long ago that multiple members of this site, some vets, potsed on a thread about their addictions and their commitment to recovery. To post on here that anyone with an addiction is WEAK, is in my oppinion ignorant and out of line....

The people with "addictions" that I feel sorry for are the people who suffered a serious injury, got prescribed pain killers, and got hooked when they were just trying to heal. Something like that is understandable. However, people that have turned to alcohol and recreational drugs due to the loss of a family member, a bad break up, losing a job, etc I cannot feel sorry for. Life is tough for everyone. The strong can deal with their emotions and difficulties without going down the dark road of drugs and booze.

My area is so drug infested that it's not even funny. Half the kids I went to High School with are either dead, in jail, or in rehab. I will end this by saying one of my favorite quotes from one of my favorite movies:

"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent, and the choice that you make will shape your life forever."

[V-ROID]

I hate when people say "obesity runs in my family." The problem is that NO ONE runs in your family.

Using things like obesity, high cholesterol and possibly even cancer that "run in the family" are diet related. You eat what your mom ate, your mom ate what your grandma ate etc... So of course you are all going to have the same conditions.

[V-ROID]

As long as we are doing movie quotes: Glenn Close from The Natural: "Well, I believe we have two lives. The life we learn with and the life we live with after that."

[Igifuno]

Vegan, are you actually a vegan?

[V-ROID]

Vegan, are you actually a vegan?

No meat since 1994. No dairy since 2004. No wheat since 2010'ish. But I have been taking D3 so the PETA crowd might kick me out! If you come over, I will still grill you a steak. I started this road because back then I thought it was the best way to get in shape. Now I can't go back!

[< <Samson> >]

No meat since 1994. No dairy since 2004. No wheat since 2010'ish. But I have been taking D3 so the PETA crowd might kick me out! If you come over, I will still grill you a steak. I started this road because back then I thought it was the best way to get in shape. Now I can't go back!

WTF do you eat to fill the cals? I really wanna know

[JAB1]

The people with "addictions" that I feel sorry for are the people who suffered a serious injury, got prescribed pain killers, and got hooked when they were just trying to heal. Something like that is understandable. However, people that have turned to alcohol and recreational drugs due to the loss of a family member, a bad break up, losing a job, etc I cannot feel sorry for. Life is tough for everyone. The strong can deal with their emotions and difficulties without going down the dark road of drugs and booze.

My area is so drug infested that it's not even funny. Half the kids I went to High School with are either dead, in jail, or in rehab. I will end this by saying one of my favorite quotes from one of my favorite movies:

"The saddest thing in life is wasted talent, and the choice that you make will shape your life forever."

I dont feel any more sorry for those people. Why are they excused? Lots of people get prescriptions, are the ones who did not become addicted stronger? I believe that people who get prescribed and become addicted/people who staart drinking casually and become addicted/people who hava a horrible life event and become addicted/et/etc, potentially have biological and nuerological issues that determine this much more powerfully than deciding to be strong, or make better choices. Either way happy to agree to disagree. My dispise comment was really just a play on your comment. On a side note where I am from is just like yours, most of who I grew up with is dead/in jail/addicetd or in recovery, I am glad I did not go down that road for whatever reason, whether its the way im programmed, or maybe you are right and I am simply a superior human being...

[V-ROID]

WTF do you eat to fill the cals? I really wanna know

Well I guess it is sorta on topic... Lets see, last night made taco salad shells out of chickpea flour, loaded them up with baby spinach, grilled crumbled tempeh, avocado and pico de gallo. Somewhere around 45g protein. Desert later was chocolate protein powder/pineapple ice cream for around 20g protein. Eaten at a restaurant maybe twice in 10 years and it was just like chips and salsa to be sociable. We prepare everything we eat.

Edit: Wife took picture of hers. Mine was MUCH more heaping and no fake sour cream.

[< <Samson> >]

Well I guess it is sorta on topic... Lets see, last night made taco salad shells out of chickpea flour, loaded them up with baby spinach, grilled crumbled tempeh, avocado and pico de gallo. Somewhere around 45g protein. Desert later was chocolate protein powder/pineapple ice cream for around 20g protein. Eaten at a restaurant maybe twice in 10 years and it was just like chips and salsa to be sociable. We prepare everything we eat.

Edit: Wife took picture of hers. Mine was MUCH more heaping and no fake sour cream.<img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=142342"/>

Cool shit man, that is dedication.

[Igifuno]

No meat since 1994. No dairy since 2004. No wheat since 2010'ish. But I have been taking D3 so the PETA crowd might kick me out! If you come over, I will still grill you a steak. I started this road because back then I thought it was the best way to get in shape. Now I can't go back!

Very cool. My wife and I do what we call 'double V week' every Valentines day week for the past three years and eat completely vegan. I may have posted a thread on it earlier this year or the year before.

We've done it during times where I was not in very good shape and also when I was in very good shape, and I must say I really enjoyed it when I was in shape and did not at all enjoy it when I was out of shape. There are some absolutely delicious vegan dishes out there... Very creative. Looking forward to next February.

Another strange thing, and I don't know whether or not this is just in my head, but toward the end of vegan week I feel a little more mellow then I usually do. Also, toward the end of the week I'm kind of bummed out that I will start eating meat etc. again and it kind of skeeves me out the first time eating it. After that its not problem though lol.

[Honkey_Kong]

Very cool. My wife and I do what we call 'double V week' every Valentines day week for the past three years and eat completely vegan. I may have posted a thread on it earlier this year or the year before.

We've done it during times where I was not in very good shape and also when I was in very good shape, and I must say I really enjoyed it when I was in shape and did not at all enjoy it when I was out of shape. There are some absolutely delicious vegan dishes out there... Very creative. Looking forward to next February.

Another strange thing, and I don't know whether or not this is just in my head, but toward the end of vegan week I feel a little more mellow then I usually do. Also, toward the end of the week I'm kind of bummed out that I will start eating meat etc. again and it kind of skeeves me out the first time eating it. After that its not problem though lol.

I honestly don't know how somebody can go without eating meat, much less call vegan dishes "delicious." Like to me, if there isn't a slab of meat on the table, it's just not a meal.