Self Blood Letting....

**NACH3** · 04-12-2015, 06:09 PM

Hey brothers & Sisters,

I posted this in the Q & A and just tryin to get a lil more feedback... Thx

Hey everyone,

So just as is says... I'm looking to start my own blood letting!

Reasons being(easier), and I've been turned down twice in two days(they say they can only tap into my Cephalic vein but only at elbow.... but from being in a long coma, and about 10 surgeries later they are very weak and collapsed on one side) but that same vein comes down your arm and when your palm is facing down it bulges not even 1/2"from elbow and where they want to tap into!

I've talked to a few therapeutic phlebotomists and they said 21g will definitely work, w/good volume still(note I want to try a 21g b/c of placement where I need to tap into and it'll be smaller)

So, I'm missing a line/suction for draining?? I plan on getting both an 18g and 20/21g's to see what works best... But how could I make a line or point me in the next step towards one??

Staff IDK if this is crossing the line, and will edit if need be! Thx and would appreciate any and all advice!

**< <Samson> >** · 04-12-2015, 08:04 PM

18ga and let er' rip

**ppwc1985** · 04-12-2015, 08:27 PM

Yep, 18 ga.

**NACH3** · 04-12-2015, 08:53 PM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

18ga and let er' rip

Thx fellas, what do you use for the line(a real suction line) that's the only thing I don't have that I have to get(& just order those 18ers)... I know where to go if I need to do so... But do you guys use anything else(Macgyver style lol) just curios?

**lovbyts** · 04-13-2015, 12:53 AM

Where is our expert blood letter, Austinite? He also knows how to get blood out of the carpet when things go amiss and you spill a pint on the floor. lol

Ill stick to doing it the old fashioned way. Leeches.

**lovbyts** · 04-13-2015, 12:57 AM

From what I understand Bass made this video.

**almostgone** · 04-13-2015, 01:03 AM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Thx fellas, what do you use for the line(a real suction line) that's the only thing I don't have that I have to get(& just order those 18ers)... I know where to go if I need to do so... But do you guys use anything else(Macgyver style lol) just curios?

I stuck 4mm tubing in the luer lock end of the needle, Nach. 5/32" should work also. Taped it together with tape. The tubing fits pretty decent.

**NACH3** · 04-13-2015, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by almostgone

I stuck 4mm tubing in the luer lock end of the needle, Nach. 5/32" should work also. Taped it together with tape. The tubing fits pretty decent.

Nice AG! I knew someone Macguvered a line!

. Thx for those sizes... I'm still gonna get a kit(w/a fitted line etc) that way it's just as easy as 123... Appreciate the line size!

**NACH3** · 04-13-2015, 04:07 AM

Originally Posted by lovbyts

From what I understand Bass made this video.

That's a great video!

Yeah ima go w/an 18er for better flow... I like how that looked!

**lovbyts** · 04-13-2015, 05:28 AM

Here you go, the thread I was referring to.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-l...verywhere.html

**NACH3** · 04-13-2015, 05:36 AM

Thx LB... I'll post up when I'm done(Gonna get all the supplies now)

**lovbyts** · 04-13-2015, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Thx LB... I'll post up when I'm done(Gonna get all the supplies now)

You are by far braver than me. I have zero problem getting blood test frequently and the nurses LOVE my large veins because they are so easy but I just could not do it to myself.

**almostgone** · 04-13-2015, 05:45 AM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Nice AG! I knew someone Macguvered a line!

. Thx for those sizes... I'm still gonna get a kit(w/a fitted line etc) that way it's just as easy as 123... Appreciate the line size!

Bass was the brains behind it.

I just knew 4mm and 5/32" are fairly close to each other in size.

**Bonaparte** · 04-13-2015, 06:42 AM

They draw blood from antecubital veins, not medial arteries...

**lovbyts** · 04-13-2015, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

They draw blood from antecubital veins, not medial arteries...

See I would have done it wrong and bleed out probably.

**NACH3** · 04-13-2015, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

They draw blood from antecubital veins, not medial arteries...

Yeah after I looked into it further I did realize that. Thx Bonaparte for clarification! I've also read they pull it from the medial artery? For what it's worth I can't tap into that anyway

thx again

**Bonaparte** · 04-13-2015, 12:21 PM

The medial arteries are in your legs. And nobody does phlebotomy through an artery, since arterial lines/draws are relatively difficult and dangerous procedures.

**NACH3** · 04-13-2015, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

The medial arteries are in your legs. And nobody does phlebotomy through an artery, since arterial lines/draws are relatively difficult and dangerous procedures.

Thx... I looked up medial artery and TBH I thought it was in our arms(for some reason I kept thinking of Brachial artery the whole time) weird I know...

And again I appreciate you taking the time to explain that! I've been reading up on sites to draw from and Im sure if wont be a problem... I'll let youse know when I get my supplies, etc... I've also talked to my Dr. And she will write a script which would help (but Id rather start doing it myself)

**Juced_porkchop** · 04-13-2015, 04:23 PM

You guys are nutz! lol
thank god my RBC and the rest always stay good. I hate taking blood out, even for tests... an IM shot is just not the same thing to me..

**NACH3** · 04-13-2015, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by Juced_porkchop

You guys are nutz! lol
thank god my RBC and the rest always stay good. I hate taking blood out, even for tests... an IM shot is just not the same thing to me..

Lol... Luckily my crit is only 46 atm
But my platelets/Monocytes are constantly elevated(no spleen) and my RBC/and white T's always seem to get me a nice stay at the hispital anymore(if fighting something off - immune system compromised after splenectomy) so they said just to donate line it's no big thing(Sbd it ususlly isn't except lately they've been sticking to there guns on where to draw...

We'll see Gonna order the supplies as soon as I can...

**GirlyGymRat** · 04-13-2015, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by Juced_porkchop

You guys are nutz! lol thank god my RBC and the rest always stay good. I hate taking blood out, even for tests... an IM shot is just not the same thing to me..

I am a baby! I can't even pin IM. Lol

**GirlyGymRat** · 04-13-2015, 06:40 PM

Nach. U can aways PM Bass. He seems like a nice guy.

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**NACH3** · 04-13-2015, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat

Nach. U can aways PM Bass. He seems like a nice guy.

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Thx for heads up GGR, I'll give it a lil more time(maybe others will chime in, but the more I see the more easier it looks(but I will always have someone around me at all times when I do this) but yes, I do agree that he's got it down nicely

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Thx for idea(& I'm sure he'd be happy to help)!

**GirlyGymRat** · 04-13-2015, 06:58 PM

He hangs out in the HRT subforum. If you posted this there he would have jumped on it. I'll pm him your thread. Cuz I am that nice.

**NACH3** · 04-13-2015, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat

He hangs out in the HRT subforum. If you posted this there he would have jumped on it. I'll pm him your thread. Cuz I am that nice.

Indeed you are!!!

I didn't want to post it too many places... His video was very informative(simple & to the point)!! And thx, your awesomeness won't be forgotten

**NACH3** · 04-14-2015, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by Bonaparte

They draw blood from antecubital veins, not medial arteries...

Hey Bonaparte, thx again for clearing that up though it was pretty dumb on my part...

So I see that I'll be tapping into my Cephalic vein as its nice and thick(the branch that wraps clockwise around your forearm... Also my Basalic vein is also very nice(but seems to want to roll)...

I'd feel more comfortable w/the Cephalic vein... What's your take on this??

**CharlesThe4th** · 04-14-2015, 06:27 PM

Jesus lord that video... I can't see myself doing that without passing out

**PistolPete33** · 04-14-2015, 08:04 PM

If you were to pass out while self bleeding could you bleed to death? Sounds like a stupid question and I would imagine you would pull the needle out but just curious.

**Synhax** · 04-14-2015, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Hey brothers & Sisters,

I posted this in the Q & A and just tryin to get a lil more feedback... Thx

Hey everyone,

So just as is says... I'm looking to start my own blood letting!

Reasons being(easier), and I've been turned down twice in two days(they say they can only tap into my medial vein(at elbow, but from being in a long coma, and about 10 surgeries later they are very weak and collapsed on one side) but that same vein comes down your arm and when your palm is facing down it bulges not even 1/2"from elbow and where they want to tap into!

I've talked to a few therapeutic phlebotomists and they said 21g will definitely work, w/good volume still(note I want to try a 21g b/c of placement where I need to tap into and it'll be smaller)

So, I'm missing a line/suction for draining?? I plan on getting both an 18g and 20/21g's to see what works best... But how could I make a line or point me in the next step towards one??

Staff IDK if this is crossing the line, and will edit if need be! Thx and would appreciate any and all advice!

this is probably a completely noob question, but why are you blood letting?

**NACH3** · 04-15-2015, 03:20 AM

B/c I don't have a spleen and my platelets and monocytes/and RBC become elevated anf the only way to rid it is through self blood letting... Or donation and I've been turned down twice already...

I'm sure you could bleed out if one passes out but that's why I would have someone their for the. First couple times.... I don't see myself passing out from this at all, but I've never done it by myself yet...

**PistolPete33** · 04-15-2015, 05:36 AM

Great idea to have someone else there. I only ask because I remember years ago and the first time I pinned myself I nearly passed out. After pinning hundreds of times it is not an issue but I know I would prob. be nervous pinning a vein for the first time.

**NACH3** · 04-15-2015, 05:42 AM

Originally Posted by PistolPete33

Great idea to have someone else there. I only ask because I remember years ago and the first time I pinned myself I nearly passed out. After pinning hundreds of times it is not an issue but I know I would prob. be nervous pinning a vein for the first time.

Yeah I think so... Lol... Never know... But this doesn't make me queasy one bit... Different strokes

**Hazard** · 04-15-2015, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by NACH3

Yeah I think so... Lol... Never know... But this doesn't make me queasy one bit... Different strokes

I'd never blood let alone..... Jus sayin. In the off chance that anything happened..... Someone's there to make sure I don't bleed to death

**kelkel** · 04-15-2015, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat

Nach. U can aways PM Bass. He seems like a nice guy.

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Nah, he's not really that nice....

**NACH3** · 04-15-2015, 07:16 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Nah, he's not really that nice....

Lmao...

**< <Samson> >** · 04-15-2015, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by Hazard

I'd never blood let alone..... Jus sayin. In the off chance that anything happened..... Someone's there to make sure I don't bleed to death

Agreed for sure

But, not all of us really have someone

My wife does damn near all of my shit. From, the shots in my ass that I can't reach. To home blood letting.

**Hazard** · 04-15-2015, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Agreed for sure

But, not all of us really have someone

My wife does damn near all of my shit. From, the shots in my ass that I can't reach. To home blood letting.

We're just lucky :-)

**NACH3** · 04-15-2015, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

Agreed for sure

But, not all of us really have someone

My wife does damn near all of my shit. From, the shots in my ass that I can't reach. To home blood letting.

I told my pops and he's down!

my ex fiancé was an Endo(PhD) and woulda been great(but she wasn't down w/the roids) lol

But why do they(centers) only want to draw from the Cephalic vein(the branch at elbow)?? I don't see it being a problem w/the same Cephalic vein 1/2" down or less??

**< <Samson> >** · 04-15-2015, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by Hazard

We're just lucky :-)

I agree with that

She loves me on sauce, I'm like her science experiment. She's like - Soo, what are you running now - how long & what possible sides

It's not that shit that gave you bitch tits & made you all pissed off is it?!

Ha ha ha

**NACH3** · 04-15-2015, 08:13 AM

Originally Posted by < <Samson> >

I agree with that

She loves me on sauce, I'm like her science experiment. She's like - Soo, what are you running now - how long & what possible sides

It's not that shit that gave you bitch tits & made you all pissed off is it?!

Ha ha ha

Hey Samson or anyone w/experience, what do you think of my ? Regarding location??