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    New York truck attack: Five Argentine friends killed



    Five friends from Argentina were among those killed in a truck attack in New York on Tuesday.

    Eight people were killed and 11 injured when the driver of the truck hit people on a cycle path in Lower Manhattan.

    A 29-year-old man, reported to be an Uzbek immigrant, was shot and injured by police as he left the vehicle.

    US President Donald Trump has ordered the Department of Homeland Security to "step up" vetting measures in the wake of the attack.

    The suspect reportedly shouted "Allahu Akbar" ("God is greatest") as he left the truck. Officials said it was a terror attack - the deadliest in the city since the 11 September attacks.

    A note was found in the truck that referred to so-called Islamic State, law enforcement sources were quoted as saying by US media.

    Who were the victims?

    The deaths of the five Argentines were confirmed by the country's foreign ministry. They were part of a group of 10 friends in New York to celebrate the 30th anniversary of their graduation from a polytechnic college in the central city of Rosário, Argentine media said.

    One of the men who died, steel firm owner Ariel Erlij, helped pay for the friends' trip, La Nación newspaper reported (in Spanish).

    Argentina's foreign ministry named the men - all reportedly aged 48 or 49 - as Diego Enrique Angelini, Alejandro Damian Pagnucco, Ariel Erlij and Hernan Ferruch. Another of the friends, Martin Ludovico Marro, is being treated in hospital.

    Three days of mourning have been declared in Rosário, Clarín newspaper reported. President Mauricio Macri expressed his "deep condolences" for the victims' families on Twitter.

    A Belgian national was also killed, Belgium's foreign minister said. Two other victims have not yet been identified.

    New York Police Department (NYPD) Commissioner James O'Neill said:
    ◾Shortly after 15:00 local time (19:00 GMT), a white pick-up truck rented from retailer Home Depot struck cyclists and pedestrians while being driven along the West St-Houston St path for many blocks
    ◾The vehicle then hit a school bus, injuring two adults and two children on board, and came to a halt
    ◾The driver emerged holding what appeared to be two handguns and made a statement "consistent with a terror attack"
    ◾He was shot in the abdomen by a police officer stationed near the scene - he later underwent surgery for gunshot wounds
    ◾A paintball gun and a pellet gun were recovered from the scene

    Mangled bicycles littered the scene of the attack, which occurred as much of the city was celebrating Halloween.

    One witness, named as Eugene, told ABC Channel 7 that he saw the white pick-up truck driving quickly down the cycle path alongside the West Side Highway, near Stuyvesant High School, at full speed and hitting a number of people.

    He also reported hearing about nine or 10 shots.

    Another witness, who gave his name as Frank, told local TV network NY1 that he had seen a man running around an intersection and heard five to six gunshots.

    "I saw he had something in his hand, but I couldn't tell what it was. But they said that it was a gun...

    "When the cops shot him, everybody started running away and it got a little bit crazy right there. So when I tried to look again, the guy was already down."

    What has been the reaction?

    President Trump took to Twitter, saying:
    ◾"In NYC, looks like another attack by a very sick and deranged person. Law enforcement is following this closely. NOT IN THE U.S.A.!"
    ◾"We must not allow ISIS [Islamic State] to return, or enter, our country after defeating them in the Middle East and elsewhere. Enough!"
    ◾"My thoughts, condolences and prayers to the victims and families of the New York City terrorist attack. God and your country are with you!"

    He also announced that he had ordered the Extreme Vetting Program to be stepped up. He did not elaborate further.

    Mr Trump first said he would insist on "extreme vetting" of immigrants during his presidential campaign last August. As president, he introduced a ban on arrivals to the US from a number of mainly-Muslim countries - a move due before the Supreme Court in the coming weeks.

    The American Civil Liberties Union civil rights group said the term extreme vetting was a "euphemism for discriminating against Muslims".

    New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said the incident in Manhattan was a "cowardly act of terror aimed at innocent civilians".

    "We know that this action was intended to break our spirit. But we also know that New Yorkers are strong, New Yorkers are resilient and our spirit will never be moved by an act of violence and an act meant to intimidate us," he said.

    The NYPD said only that the attacker was a 29-year-old man.

    However, US media named him as Sayfullo Saipov, who had reportedly lived in Tampa, Florida, and Paterson, New Jersey.

    He arrived to America from Uzbekistan in 2010 and is believed to be a legal resident in the country. Car-share service Uber confirmed he had been working for them.

    Three officials said Mr Saipov had previously come to the federal authorities' attention as a result of an unrelated investigation, the New York Times reported.

    Police records show he was arrested in Missouri last year over a traffic fine.

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    More attacks driven by hate. So f-in sad. Says a lot about the world we live in today, unfortunately.
    Prayers and positive thoughts for the victims, families, and friends.
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    Every fuking week there's something wtf is wrong with these people.

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    Every fuking week there's something wtf is wrong with these people.
    They want us all dead...
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    They want us all dead...
    I know, sad state of affairs and fuking fuks me off every time i hear this cunty thing.
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    They want us all dead...
    That's why we all need to be training outside the gym on the shooting range too

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    Five friends from Argentina were among those killed in a truck attack in New York on Tuesday.

    Eight people were killed and 11 injured when the driver of the truck hit people on a cycle path in Lower Manhattan.

    A 29-year-old man, reported to be an Uzbek immigrant, was shot and injured by police as he left the vehicle.

    US President Donald Trump has ordered the Department of Homeland Security to "step up" vetting measures in the wake of the attack.

    The suspect reportedly shouted "Allahu Akbar" ("God is greatest") as he left the truck. Officials said it was a terror attack - the deadliest in the city since the 11 September attacks.

    A note was found in the truck that referred to so-called Islamic State, law enforcement sources were quoted as saying by US media.

    Who were the victims?

    The deaths of the five Argentines were confirmed by the country's foreign ministry. They were part of a group of 10 friends in New York to celebrate the 30th anniversary of their graduation from a polytechnic college in the central city of Rosário, Argentine media said.

    One of the men who died, steel firm owner Ariel Erlij, helped pay for the friends' trip, La Nación newspaper reported (in Spanish).

    Argentina's foreign ministry named the men - all reportedly aged 48 or 49 - as Diego Enrique Angelini, Alejandro Damian Pagnucco, Ariel Erlij and Hernan Ferruch. Another of the friends, Martin Ludovico Marro, is being treated in hospital.

    Three days of mourning have been declared in Rosário, Clarín newspaper reported. President Mauricio Macri expressed his "deep condolences" for the victims' families on Twitter.

    A Belgian national was also killed, Belgium's foreign minister said. Two other victims have not yet been identified.

    New York Police Department (NYPD) Commissioner James O'Neill said:
    ◾Shortly after 15:00 local time (19:00 GMT), a white pick-up truck rented from retailer Home Depot struck cyclists and pedestrians while being driven along the West St-Houston St path for many blocks
    ◾The vehicle then hit a school bus, injuring two adults and two children on board, and came to a halt
    ◾The driver emerged holding what appeared to be two handguns and made a statement "consistent with a terror attack"
    ◾He was shot in the abdomen by a police officer stationed near the scene - he later underwent surgery for gunshot wounds
    ◾A paintball gun and a pellet gun were recovered from the scene

    Mangled bicycles littered the scene of the attack, which occurred as much of the city was celebrating Halloween.

    One witness, named as Eugene, told ABC Channel 7 that he saw the white pick-up truck driving quickly down the cycle path alongside the West Side Highway, near Stuyvesant High School, at full speed and hitting a number of people.

    He also reported hearing about nine or 10 shots.

    Another witness, who gave his name as Frank, told local TV network NY1 that he had seen a man running around an intersection and heard five to six gunshots.

    "I saw he had something in his hand, but I couldn't tell what it was. But they said that it was a gun...

    "When the cops shot him, everybody started running away and it got a little bit crazy right there. So when I tried to look again, the guy was already down."

    What has been the reaction?

    President Trump took to Twitter, saying:
    ◾"In NYC, looks like another attack by a very sick and deranged person. Law enforcement is following this closely. NOT IN THE U.S.A.!"
    ◾"We must not allow ISIS [Islamic State] to return, or enter, our country after defeating them in the Middle East and elsewhere. Enough!"
    ◾"My thoughts, condolences and prayers to the victims and families of the New York City terrorist attack. God and your country are with you!"

    He also announced that he had ordered the Extreme Vetting Program to be stepped up. He did not elaborate further.

    Mr Trump first said he would insist on "extreme vetting" of immigrants during his presidential campaign last August. As president, he introduced a ban on arrivals to the US from a number of mainly-Muslim countries - a move due before the Supreme Court in the coming weeks.

    The American Civil Liberties Union civil rights group said the term extreme vetting was a "euphemism for discriminating against Muslims".

    New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said the incident in Manhattan was a "cowardly act of terror aimed at innocent civilians".

    "We know that this action was intended to break our spirit. But we also know that New Yorkers are strong, New Yorkers are resilient and our spirit will never be moved by an act of violence and an act meant to intimidate us," he said.

    The NYPD said only that the attacker was a 29-year-old man.

    However, US media named him as Sayfullo Saipov, who had reportedly lived in Tampa, Florida, and Paterson, New Jersey.

    He arrived to America from Uzbekistan in 2010 and is believed to be a legal resident in the country. Car-share service Uber confirmed he had been working for them.

    Three officials said Mr Saipov had previously come to the federal authorities' attention as a result of an unrelated investigation, the New York Times reported.

    Police records show he was arrested in Missouri last year over a traffic fine.
    You knew some of the victims.?

    Sorry for your loss
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    Ok this is getting ridiculous mofo. First it was London and now its NYC, both of the cities I love. Cant they take Islamic state and shove it up? So killing people in the name of so called "Islamic state" justifies it? Human life worth lot more then this. When you kill innocent human it is death to Humanity. In order to have religion you have to have humanity.....no religion exists if there is not humanity.
    My thoughts and prayers to all the families.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sh0tsf1red View Post
    You knew some of the victims.?

    Sorry for your loss
    No, I was just reporting it and it was from the BBC news feed

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    Quote Originally Posted by calgarian View Post
    Ok this is getting ridiculous mofo. First it was London and now its NYC, both of the cities I love. Cant they take Islamic state and shove it up? So killing people in the name of so called "Islamic state" justifies it? Human life worth lot more then this. When you kill innocent human it is death to Humanity. In order to have religion you have to have humanity.....no religion exists if there is not humanity.
    My thoughts and prayers to all the families.
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    Quote Originally Posted by calgarian View Post
    Ok this is getting ridiculous mofo. First it was London and now its NYC, both of the cities I love. Cant they take Islamic state and shove it up? So killing people in the name of so called "Islamic state" justifies it? Human life worth lot more then this. When you kill innocent human it is death to Humanity. In order to have religion you have to have humanity.....no religion exists if there is not humanity.
    My thoughts and prayers to all the families.
    Nobody likes NYC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by songdog View Post
    Nobody likes NYC!
    I do...jeez, hectic, yummy and cheap food. TIme square stock market whats not to like?
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    They bring this state down just look at all the people walking the street not working and not from here.Yes great food the best in the world bar none.They are arrogant rude and only care about themselves.They come up here to hunt every fall they stick out like a sore thumb with there brand new never washed bright orange hunting suits tramping through the woods usually 5 or 6 of them at 1st light making all kinds of noise.Then by 9 they are in a bar crying there are no deer and they leave trash every where they go.They laugh at us because we don't make the money they do but you know wat? I am glad to make less and breath fresh air and have deer in my front yard and not a drive by shooting.We always smile at them when we are dragging our deer out though.That is something their money can't buy!

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    I just hope they route him to Gitmo and not through the US Court System.
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    There's a prophetic line from an Errol Flynn movie, "The Sea Hawk" (1940). Flynn plays an English privateer who recognized that the Spanish were building an armada such as only could have been useful for invading England, so he attacked one of their ships without the Queen of England's explicit consent. Seeking to admonish him, the Queen asks Flynn's character if he thinks England is at war with the Spain (which, technically, they were not). Flynn replies, "No, your Majesty, but Spain is at war with the world." Which, in fact, at that point in history, they were.

    If America (and indeed western civilization) is to survive this onslaught, they first have to admit who the true enemy is. Islam is at war with the world. And that war will proceed apace whether we choose to consider ourselves at war with them ... or not.

    Their apologists say it's not all Muslims who are the problem, it's just the radicals, but that argument simply doesn't hold water. The only reason the Ku Klux Klan once was able to conduct its reign of terror with impunity was that too many decent white folk were willing to look the other way. They might not have been in the KKK but practically everyone knew who the Klansmen were, and they mostly chose to turn a blind eye.

    In fact every noteworthy and successful criminal or subversive secret organization that ever existed, from the Cosa Nostra to the French Underground to the Thuggee to the Sons of Liberty, all owed much of their success to "enablers" who were not part of the organization per se and so were not subject to the same levels of scrutiny and suspicion. Or to put an allegorical spin on it, Bram Stoker's Dracula always had a non-vampire human who served as his creature because he could move about in the daylight and do his master's bidding without attracting undue attention.

    Whether those 'decent' white folk looked the other way because they feared retribution if they interfered, or whether they did it because they secretly agreed with the KKK's objectives, it made precious little difference to the black people who the Klan was preying on. Because the horrors that were visited upon them were the same either way.

    So it is today with the so-called "moderate" Muslims. Those who don't openly stand against the radicals are their enablers. And every enabler, by virtue of his complicity, is as good as painting a big, red bulls-eye on his chest. If/when some non-Muslim power retaliating for attacks by the radicals engages in a wholesale slaughter, indiscriminately killing "good" Muslims along with "bad", either because they lack the ability to separate the sheep from the goats or because they just don't care, these so-called "moderates" would do well to remember that they're in that position precisely because they made a bargain with the devil.

    In this fight, if you're not with us, you're against us. There can be no middle ground. Not if you intend to survive.



    Regarding these latest NYC homicides, that maniac only came to America because of a bill conceived by Teddy Kennedy specifically because he felt the Irish were underrepresented in the US. So he wrote a "diversity visa" bill to entice people to come to America who otherwise were not inclined to. From most anywhere, not just from Ireland. Since that law was passed, the Muslim immigrant population of America has climbed from 1.7 to 2.7 million.

    And this guy had coattails. Once he'd received his Green Card he had the status to sponsor more of his little Islamo-Fascist buddies, which he did 20+ times. If you watched this past week's episode of 60 Minutes (on CBS), there was an interview with an FBI undercover agent who also was a Muslim and who specialized in undercover work within radical Muslim groups. And he noted that what ISIS and Al'Qaeda covet most is a one of their own residing in the US to serve as a conduit to assist them with their campaign of terror against the US. And there is no reason to believe that the people this guy assisted in coming to America were any more properly vetted than he was.


    As Golda Meir famously said, “We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children. We cannot forgive them for forcing us to kill their children. We will only have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us.”

    There is no Muslim Supreme Commander to order them all to cease hostilities. And even if there were, Islam has so many feuding factions, there's absolutely zero chance that they all would comply.

    If you can't cause them to surrender (which you can't), that leaves only two choices. First, you can capitulate. Surrender to them. Adopt Islam and agree to live under Sharia law. Or you can commit to an eternal game of Whac-a-Muslim, Every time one pops up who needs killing, do the deed and get back to your day job.

    Either way, this isn't a war that can be won, only survived. And if we choose to contest Muslim domination, it likely will be a war that will never end. At least not in out lifetimes. Madam Meir died 40 years ago and what she said rings every ounce as true today as it did then. That should tell you something.
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    The main suspect in the New York truck attack that left eight people dead says he intended to kill as many people as possible during Halloween celebrations.

    Sayfullo Saipov, 29, told investigators he "felt good" about the attack, which he had been planning for a year.

    The Uzbek immigrant, who faces federal terrorism charges, says he was inspired by so-called Islamic State. He was shot and injured by police at the scene.

    US President Donald Trump tweeted that he should receive the death penalty.

    The charges filed against Mr Saipov are federal, which means the government can override New York state's ban on capital punishment.

    Twitter post by @realDonaldTrump: NYC terrorist was happy as he asked to hang ISIS flag in his hospital room. He killed 8 people, badly injured 12. SHOULD GET DEATH PENALTY!Image Copyright @realDonaldTrump @realDonaldTrump
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    What did the suspect say?

    Mr Saipov appeared in court in a wheelchair 24 hours after mowing down cyclists and pedestrians on a bike lane in Lower Manhattan on Tuesday.

    Six people died at the scene and two more in hospital. Twelve people were injured, four of whom remain in critical condition.
    ◾What we know and don't know

    Prosecutors say Mr Saipov spoke freely to them, waiving his right to avoid self-incrimination while in custody.

    According to federal court papers, he said:
    ◾The attack was planned two months ago, and he carried out a trial run with a rental truck last month
    ◾He intentionally chose Halloween because he believed there would be more people in the streets
    ◾He originally planned to target the Brooklyn Bridge as well
    ◾He wanted to display Islamic State (IS) flags on the truck, but decided not to draw attention to himself
    ◾He was inspired by 90 graphic and violent propaganda videos found on his phone - in particular, one in which IS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi asks what Muslims are doing to avenge deaths in Iraq.

    Mr Saipov is accused of providing material support and resources to IS.
    ◾Read more on the suspect
    ◾Why Uzbek migrants are radicalised

    New York Police's Deputy Commissioner John Miller said the suspect appeared "to have followed almost exactly to a 'T'" IS instructions on how to carry out such an attack.

    The FBI says they have located a second Uzbek man, 32-year-old Mukhammadzoir Kadirov, who was wanted for questioning in connection with the attack.

    Who is the suspect?

    Sayfullo Saipov had reportedly lived in Tampa, Florida, before moving to Paterson, New Jersey.

    He arrived in America from Uzbekistan in 2010 and is a legal resident of the country. Uber confirmed he had been working as a driver for them.

    Mr Saipov, who was shot and injured by police, appeared in court in a wheelchair

    CBS News quotes an intelligence source as saying he was known to US authorities after his name was associated with the subjects of FBI counter-terrorism investigations in 2015.

    The source says he had some contact with individuals who were considered radicalised extremists, at least one of whom was Uzbek. It is unclear whether those being investigated were in the US or overseas.

    It is not known if Mr Saipov, who was not the main focus of the investigation, was interviewed at that time by the FBI.

    What has been the reaction?

    New York has increased the police presence at key transport hubs, and there will be additional uniformed and plain-clothes police on duty at Sunday's New York Marathon.

    Donald Trump on New York terror suspect: "Send him to Gitmo"

    President Trump said he was taking steps to end the diversity lottery programme - the immigration system under which the suspect entered the country.

    He also attacked the US justice system, and said he would consider sending the suspect to the US military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
    ◾Trump backs Guantanamo for NY suspect
    ◾What is the diversity green card lottery?
    ◾How did Trump do in his terror response?

    The administration says it has not ruled out adding Uzbekistan to a list of countries in the president's proposed travel ban.

    The mayor of New York City and the governor of New York state have both praised the resilience of New Yorkers - and urged people not to "politicise" a tragedy that took eight lives.

    Governor Andrew Cuomo and Mayor Bill de Blasio also suggested New York's strict gun control laws had ensured that high-powered weapons could not get into the hands of terrorists.
    New York truck attack suspect 'wanted to kill as many as possible' - BBC News

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