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08-20-2018, 10:46 AM #1
NFL and taking a knee
So how do you feel about it? The pic will tell my story. A lot of cops at the game would say " Like your shirt" as I walked by. Didn't receive one negative comment to my face for some reason?
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08-20-2018, 11:42 AM #2
I find it a little weird that during the entire off season they didn’t protest anywhere. Is it only important from August thru January. I don’t understand that. And now they aren’t going to air the national anthem? Fuck that. Fuck them. Get control over your employees NFL teams.
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08-20-2018, 12:32 PM #3
Fuck the NFL! as cape said they are all employees and get control of the problem. They are all a bunch of overpaid actors that are disrespecting the nation, citizens and every person that has served in the military. I like how they are all making millions of dollars and protesting how everyone is not treated fairly.
Grow some balls nfl and make them stand or fine them, start pulling money out of their pocket and suddenly the will all be standing.
Nfl should be totally ashamed of themselves by not airing the national anthem.
Plus with the new hitting rules they might as well drop the pads and give them flags.
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08-20-2018, 12:37 PM #4
I totally agree! I was in the Navy for 21 years steaming around the world why these punks played a game. Go put your money to good use.
The hard part is everything in this small town of Green Bay Wi revolves around football and the Packers. Even when just driving through the tallest thing on the very minimal sky line is the score board at the stadium. Last year I didn't go to the bar to watch a single game, did not host a game at my house or go to a party that was being hosted for the game. This year a may watch even less.
The NFL and players pocket books have not been hit hard enough yet.
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08-20-2018, 01:18 PM #5
I saw this post this morning and thought here we go. There will be so much whining about free speech and right to protest BS. Glad to see people see what BS these protests are. Exactly, where were these guys during off season? Were they out helping the unfortunate people that they are protesting for? No fucking way. They were enjoying the millions they make doing nothing. I have not watched a game since this started and dont plan to. So glad I live somewhere that many bars are boycotting the NFL and not putting the games on.
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08-20-2018, 02:21 PM #6Productive Member
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I believe they should make their statements on their own platform. The players are just employees, that are using their employers time and resources to voice their opinion.
Also, one of the great aspects of this country is our freedom of speech, and you are going to exercise that by... not respecting its anthem? Seems like a contradiction to me.
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08-20-2018, 02:29 PM #7
Isn't it a free country? Might not like it, but this is the result of what's going on here
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08-20-2018, 02:42 PM #8
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08-20-2018, 03:27 PM #9
I believe people have the right to protest, but as stated above, not on the clock, and certainly in not so disrespectful a manner.
Honestly, it f-in sickens me.There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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08-20-2018, 05:02 PM #10
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08-20-2018, 05:44 PM #11
I break 20-100 laws per day (victimless crimes) just to survive and be myself.
Freedom...
I took it upon myself.
A government didn't grant it to me, in fact quite the opposite.
I could give a shit less about a bunch of 80 IQ jocks making a dumbass political statement or the NFL that broadcasts it.
One thing I am certain of, the more I pay attention and voice my opinion on matters like these, the louder their statement becomes and the more successful their goal of gaining attention is.
They are no more my enemy than the police when the arrest me and say, "I am just doing my job."
Just puppets.
Can't get mad at a puppet.
Omg Bill Clinton!
Omg George Bush!
Omg Obama!
Omg Trump!
It's a perpetual cycle of bitchery, as we transition into total socialism, with little outrages like this that keep us divided into a two party system at each other throats, so we are too busy arguing to see the obvious.
The sheep in one pasture are arguing with the sheep in the other pasture and the wolves are closing in on every side.
Ery budy is saying "Fuck that guy!" or "No fuck those guys!"
In the mean time I try to ignore it and am over here with a needle in my ass thinking about how in the fuck I am gonna avoid the IRS, DOT, and a dozen other organizations as a free man. I am pretty ok with it all.
Freedom does not mean you are "blessed" or have it good. Freedom is you taking care of yourself without intervention. I guess I will be "free" until they find out and lock my fucking ass up and throw away the key.
What if every time someone famous made a political statement, no one paid it any mind or spoke of it, much the way it was before social media?
Don't waste your time on it. Enjoy your life and fuck em all. No politics will change what is coming. No opinions will affect the inevitable.
I will stand right in the middle of all the sheep munchin on grass enjoying myself until the wolves finally get me too.
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08-20-2018, 05:47 PM #12
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08-20-2018, 06:34 PM #15
I can deal my own violence.
My sheep dog is my attourney.
He is counting on me to stay with the herd though. If I wander off from the herd too far, just minding my own business...
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08-20-2018, 06:46 PM #16
I got too much shit going on in my own life to care about what's going on anywhere else outside my tight group of friend and immediate family
If a nuke was dropped on us as long as my house is spared I'm okay with that
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08-20-2018, 06:51 PM #17
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08-20-2018, 07:04 PM #18
Probably one of the worst things/issues I see with this NFL fiasco is that soooo many youngsters pattern themselves after these kneeling losers. They see them as a role model, which starts a self sustaining cycle of irresponsible bullshit.
There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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08-20-2018, 07:14 PM #20
Yes sir. Just like the universal basic income plot. Another way to get people to "go with the flow". It just irks me and I'm stuck at work for a couple more hours. Guess I'll either take a Dr. prescribed Xanax or go grab a sledgehammer and knock the shit out of a piece of metal....maybe I'll do both.
There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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08-20-2018, 07:31 PM #21
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08-20-2018, 07:34 PM #22There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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08-20-2018, 07:42 PM #23
Things are looking up. Mrs. AG shot me a text. Believe there will be some Boer steaks and tzatziki sauce waiting when I get home.
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The NFL are private companies and will do as they see fit, as it should be. If there were a substantial loss to their revenue due to this issue players would be laid off in a heartbeat, but as there is not, meaning, people still go to the games, buy NFL merchandise and so on, it will go on.
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08-20-2018, 08:14 PM #25
Man I used to live for conservative politics.
Now I put more effort into this guy than any and all politics.
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08-20-2018, 08:25 PM #26
Greatest thing I have read in this thread. Total truth.
We get angry about it and still watch the game.
This is the strength of the convictions of the masses.
"I am furious! Somebody get me a beer and shut up the game is on!" Lmao!
Something I said before has to make sense to someone here. Might as well enjoy life. It is short.
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08-20-2018, 08:34 PM #27
Honestly, I don't watch pro ball anymore. Mrs. AG is a big college ball fan (Clemson), so if they happen to be playing Alabama, I will watch with her so I can aggravate her.
There are 3 loves in my life: my wife, my English mastiffs, and my weightlifting....Man, my wife gets really pissed when I get the 3 confused...
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08-21-2018, 05:33 AM #29
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08-21-2018, 05:07 PM #31
Let's not leave out the elephant in the room -- which no one has yet gone anywhere near -- which is that the protest is based on false claims. It's mostly bullshit. Colin Kapernick isn't playing in the NFL entirely because he turned down a contract offer(s). He'd rather be a racial martyr than an active player in the NFL, but that's not the story they're parroting because the facts don't suit their agenda.
And "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" is a lie. The Ferguson shooting was (in cop-speak) 'righteous.' Darren Wilson did society a favor by killing a parasite who was destined to be a threat to and a burden on society for the remainder of his natural life. It was what Ambrose Bierce would term a "praiseworthy" homicide. 100% of the forensic evidence supports Officer Wilson's version of the facts. And the testimony of 100% of the witnesses who claim the shooting was unprovoked was impeached either for inconsistency or for being at odds with the forensic evidence. Several who came forward to support the false narrative were found to be lying about having been there in the first place.
And the Ferguson Lie spawned a series of further protests, which led to still more deaths, both protesters being killed and protesters doing the killing. Plus millions of dollars of property damage. All of which should be laid squarely at the feet of those who maliciously perpetuated the lie -- which includes the NFL kneelers -- and not the police whom the lie placed in a precarious and untenable situation.
Since the NFL is a private concern (but not all the teams are), they can be as secretive about earnings as they want to be, but PPV viewership is known to have fallen by 17% since the faux-protests began. One source I found claims the league lost $30 million (gross) last season compared to the previous. So there's no question that the NFL has been stung by the decline, but they refuse to accept that this is a revolt against the faux-protesters. Instead, they're going with the fairy tale that this is simply a continuation of the downturn that began in the 2014-15 season.
However, one poll found that 50% of NFL fans who said they are are watching less football now attribute that change primarily to the faux-protests. And after the 2016 presidential election, one thing we know about polls is that people with conservative viewpoints lie to pollsters to avoid being FALSELY labeled a RACIST BIGOT HOMOPHOBE. So there's a very good likelihood that if they were being honest, a significant portion of that other 50% also would be admitting they're watching less because of the faux-protesters.
The chief problem, from the NFL's perspective, is that their business model relies on the good will of a bunch of coddled, undisciplined, self-indulgent and semi-literate man-children who have a hyper-inflated opinion of their own importance. It used to be that a high 6-figure salary was enough to keep them placated, but now even 7 figures seeingly won't cut it. Even after the NFL finally wakes up, smells the coffee and admits that "It's the protesters, Stupid!," whatever action they take will be the one they think will cost them the least. If that's appeasing their thug employees and indirectly supporting their false allegations, that's exactly what they'll do.
But I have a feeling the fan base is going to take that decision out of the faux-protesters' purview.Last edited by Beetlegeuse; 08-21-2018 at 05:23 PM.
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08-21-2018, 11:21 PM #32New Member
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Wow, that's some bang on stuff right there. In my opinion the only reason there are not more people on our side is that the media one giant state funded propaganda machine and as long as there are sheep they will continue to feed them.
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02-28-2019, 01:34 PM #33
Just an excerpt, follow the hotlink in the headline if you want to read the rest. It has supporting charts and stuff that would have made posting the entire article too fiddly.
Trayvon Martin Hate Hoax Created Modern Identity Politics
Rod Thomson
The final take-away from what follows is that America is a pretty frickin’ amazing country when it comes to racism and bigotry.
It’s so good, in fact, that a small but booming industry has sprung up creating hoaxes to perpetuate the illusion of a bigoted country when the fact that there are so many hoaxes is one of the strong proofs of how little there is in reality.
The Jussie Smollett hate crime hoax — he paid Nigerians to pretend to attack him, pour bleach on him and put a noose around his neck — is just the latest. It follows in a long line of hate crime hoaxes being perpetrated by the left, Democrats and the media, but I repeat myself, creating an industry that was super fueled by the Trayvon Martin race hoax.
But Trayvon was only the start. Fuel was added in Ferguson, Baltimore and elsewhere. And all of the straight up hoaxes or race-baiting misrepresentations and grew into wildfires with the belching bellows of a credulous, fellow-traveling media....
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02-28-2019, 02:07 PM #35
Beetle, if the new york times would give a guy like you a column, they would sell about 25% more papers.
Really think about it.... Giving one intelligent guy a chance to speak the other side creates controversy. Controversy sells. So wtf!!?
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You guys listen too or read Tim Pools stuff? He’s a lefty but is super critical of the radical left and how it’s destroyed journalism. He Is a professional journalist first and foremost. Where as a large part of the media is tribalized and only prints what’s good for their sides position.
I had a hard time with how the media is in my mind. Then I made a switch in my mind and realized that the TV news is just entertainment. Much like professional wrestling is. I use to be a CNN junkie, loved to watch the nightly national news and would generally read the news online every day. Somewhere along the way the news turned into telling me their opinion on a story and I got very turned off by that. Now I try to read independent journalist and NEVER watch news on TV. It just is what it is and is never going to go back. My hope is that enough people who are registered to vote know how to dissiminate information.Last edited by MuscleScience; 02-28-2019 at 04:27 PM. Reason: Grammer
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02-28-2019, 08:16 PM #38
Many of the true journalists have been excluded from the main stream because the MSM no longer wants to print the impartial truth, they're too committed to their role as the propaganda wing for the Peoples' Socialist Party (AKA the demoncrats). Even Fox now sometimes leans so far to the left their earlobe is dragging the ground.
That's why blogging or vlogging sometimes is the only media outlet available to them. You don't need a press card to learn the truth. They're often also the only impartial source. Just because you wear a network brand doesn't mean you aren't lying through your teeth, and just because you're free range doesn't mean you aren't a legitimate news source. Not to forget that without a mere "news aggregator" by name of Matt Drudge we would never have learned that Bill Klinton was playing "hide the sausage" with an intern in the Oval Office. Because Der Schlickmeister had the MSM in his back pocket.
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07-07-2019, 07:51 PM #40
Here's an interview (at Ammoland.com) with the "White Hispanic" George Zimmerman, the exterminator for vermin Trayvon Martin, seven years down the road.
It was a cold and rainy Sunday night. Like all other Sunday's he would go out to the store to buy chicken and other food for the diet, he was on. He continued then stopped short and asked me for a piece of paper. I flipped to a blank piece of paper in my notepad that contained all the questions I had for him. I then slid it along with my pen across the table to him. He began to sketch out while explaining that the gated community he lived in wasn't fully gated all the way around. He said that a bordering swampy area would dry up throughout the year allowing people to come and go undetected.
George continued his story on how he was driving out of the gated community and the light from another vehicle lit up the alleyway behind a house. He noticed someone standing in the shadows. He thought that was odd due to the cold rainy weather. The suspicious behavior made him concerned for his neighborhood, so he called it in to authorities.
He continued to use the sketch to show me how that night's events continued to play out. He showed me where he pulled up to the clubhouse and shortly after, a hooded man, later found to be Trayvon Martin, circled his vehicle a couple of times, all while reaching in-and-out of his pockets as if trying to intimidate George. Trayvon then went out of sight behind a building. To help provide police with the location of Trayvon, George got out of his vehicle to get a better vantage point. He informed the dispatcher of this and the dispatcher stated that they didn't need him to do that. However, by now George was out of his vehicle and moving to a better position. George saw lights in the distance and thought the police had arrived. He later realized that was not the case.
Headed in the direction that the lights came from coming around the side of one of the townhouses to the “T” in the sidewalks he was, without notice, punched in the face by Trayvon, instantly breaking his nose. Trayvon then grabbed George and tried to throw him to the ground multiple times. George held his own for a little bit but eventually was thrown to the ground. Once again George referred to the sketch showing me where they were by this time, which was a little further up the sidewalk from the initial attack. He said that the ground sloped down on one side of the sidewalk and his legs were down the hill while his head was on the sidewalk. Trayvon was now on top of George punching him repeatedly in the face, MMA style, as George described. Every time George tried to sit up Trayvon would slam him back down to the ground and in-turn his head would bounce off the sidewalk, causing him excruciating pain.
To get away from the pain being inflicted on his head, George tried sliding down the hill out from underneath Trayvon. This caused George’s red windbreaker to slide up revealing his Kel- Tec PF-9 9mm handgun holstered on his hip.
Without any prior experience of drawing and shooting from the holster, George knew it was either now or never. He unholstered the firearm and fired one shot at the man who he felt was trying to take his life. The response from Trayvon was like that of an old Western movie. He said, “Ya got me!” At that second George thought his shot missed. To him, it seemed as if Trayvon was making a statement to concede defeat and not that he actually was hit by the bullet.
In that instance George wasn't worried about his safety or that somebody was trying to kill him, he was more concerned that he missed Trayvon and might have hurt somebody else in a nearby house. To me, this was one of many enlightening times in our meeting. More concerned for the life of his neighbors than his own life.
George was now able to get out from underneath his attacker. Trayvon collapsed onto the ground clutching his chest while mumbling illegible words. A neighbor came out asking what was going on and shortly after a police officer showed up. George said the officer was calm and asked him what had happened. He informed the officer that his firearm was holstered on his side. The officer later retained the gun. Emergency teams worked on Martin. Medical attention was given to George on the scene before he was taken to the police station, for over 5 hours of questioning. Though his head felt as if it was going to explode, he endured the questioning. He was able to clean up in the bathroom at the police station, though after the fact, his attorneys were not happy with George’s decision to do so since it disposed of crucial evidence that could help his case. Little did anyone know that this night’s events would become such a national case.
Life After that Terrible Night
Being that Florida is a stand-your-ground state – meaning that you do not have a duty to retreat when posed with danger if you are legally allowed to be there – and all the evidence showed that George was defending himself, no charges were brought against him that night. It wasn't until later when then President Obama called governor Rick Scott and demanded that he find somebody in the state of Florida that would prosecute George. After consulting multiple district attorney’s, the Governor found one in Jacksonville that would take the case. This began the 3.5- million-dollar battle for George to stay out of prison. George fought off death that night but never fathomed the war to save his life was just beginning.
While awaiting trial, George spent his time in solitary confinement. His confinement was more solitary than other inmates due to threats made on his life and his high-profile case. He spent much of his time reading the Bible and Phil Robertson's book “Happy, Happy, Happy”. Being locked up with minimal interaction with others day-after-day is sure to beat down the morale of anyone. It tends to make people depressed or harden them from emotion. George admitted having a bad boy phase after being acquitted which gave him many run-ins with the law.
When he was finally acquitted of all charges, and released from prison.
Shortly after that his cousin drove in from California and they watched a Duck Dynasty marathon. His cousin knew he needed to laugh again with everything he had been through. Phil Robertson was just the medicine he needed. He made him laugh so much that he wanted to meet him and the family in person. On a whim, he just up and drove to West Monroe, Louisiana in search of the family that helped him be happy again. Little did he know the Robertson’s had been praying for him during the whole ordeal. The trip had many positive outcomes. He broke bread with the Robertson family, was born again and found a truly remarkable family who is now lifelong friends.
Through his ordeal he has met other big names in the self-defense industry, to include Andrew Branca and Massad Ayoob. George said that though this incident changed his life in a prolific way, there are great people he has met because of it and that has been positive.
George's life drastically changed that desolate night. Most places won't hire him because of bad publicity. Businesses that have given him a chance, eventually end up letting him go. When people harass your employees while at work, well that is not good for business. To pay his bills, he was reduced to selling the firearm that was used to save his life. A winning bid brought him $250,000. Though this seems like a lot, in comparison to what he has lost and the expense of the trial, it is a drop in the bucket. To keep afloat, he has used his artistic ability to paint and sells his works of art whenever possible.
My last question of the night for George was “If anything, what would you have done differently that night?” Without hesitation, his response was “I would have never left the house!” His answer struck me deep. I thought he would say, I would have just called 911 at the time I saw the suspicious silhouette lurking next to the building, in the rain. Or possibly, I would have stayed in my vehicle after the person circled it in an intimidating manner. For him to wish he had never left his home was a statement for sure. Your life can change in an instant based on decisions that you make.
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