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    Narcissist control

    Don't really care anymore, I need answers
    How do I beat a narcissist in my life or do I cut them out of my life completely? There is no beating them so I'm left with leaving them and cutting them out of my life right?
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    Yes leave them
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    Don't really care anymore, I need answers
    How do I beat a narcissist in my life or do I cut them out of my life completely? There is no beating them so I'm left with leaving them and cutting them out of my life right?
    Like obs said , ditch them from your life . I dated a girl that was 100% narcissist. it isn't worth the trouble

    THEY DO NOT CHANGE.

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    I had chest/back/arms yesterday
    I'm headed back to the gym now for legs and biceps
    I honestly don't see myself managing this anymore with them and dealing with them on this level, I have been trying to leave for a year or so but its just not happening right now. Will continue to fight this and get them out of my life for good
    2018 was hell, pure hell and I'm trying to not keep this in me anymore
    Headed to the gym as a cope. have nothing else left

    Already talked to close family and friends, everyone says leave ASAP
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    I had chest/back/arms yesterday
    I'm headed back to the gym now for legs and biceps
    I honestly don't see myself managing this anymore with them and dealing with them on this level, I have been trying to leave for a year or so but its just not happening right now. Will continue to fight this and get them out of my life for good
    2018 was hell, pure hell and I'm trying to not keep this in me anymore
    Headed to the gym as a cope. have nothing else left

    Already talked to close family and friends, everyone says leave ASAP
    They write books on dealing with narcissists. There is even videos on youtube.

    You have to shut them down show them no attention and eventually they may decide its in their best interest to seek attention elsewhere. They seek attention to gain manipulative control. They usually start by confiding in you and acting as if you are the only person that can help them. Then they are in like a cavity in a tooth. You can drill it out or pull the tooth but the cavity must go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    They write books on dealing with narcissists. There is even videos on youtube.

    You have to shut them down show them no attention and eventually they may decide its in their best interest to seek attention elsewhere. They seek attention to gain manipulative control. They usually start by confiding in you and acting as if you are the only person that can help them. Then they are in like a cavity in a tooth. You can drill it out or pull the tooth but the cavity must go.
    Holy fuck. That was a beautiful way to describe it.

    Well done sir !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisp83TRT View Post
    Holy fuck. That was a beautiful way to describe it.

    Well done sir !

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    Don't really care anymore, I need answers
    How do I beat a narcissist in my life or do I cut them out of my life completely? There is no beating them so I'm left with leaving them and cutting them out of my life right?
    U just shut him/she up with developing your body to a hulkmuscular real mean figthingmachine. Then u dont even have to say anything, always be cool, always be satisfied. Its works in the high security prison yards too. My favourite TV shows. And channels. Dont run your mouth, be buff, be cool, be happy. it works everywhere.
    As Kali said, it even works towards hot girls. Being big and buff dont do shit. Cool, smile, big, buff...and the streetworld is yours buddy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AR's King Silabolin View Post
    U just shut him/she up with developing your body to a hulkmuscular real mean figthingmachine. Then u dont even have to say anything, always be cool, always be satisfied. Its works in the high security prison yards too. My favourite TV shows. And channels. Dont run your mouth, be buff, be cool, be happy. it works everywhere.
    As Kali said, it even works towards hot girls. Being big and buff dont do shit. Cool, smile, big, buff...and the streetworld is yours buddy.
    I was going to explain the whole situation but no need to, whenever they begin to see the happiness in me return, whenever they see I am truly happy and enjoying life thats when it begins and it gets harder, life is about to get harder because I made a promise to myself, once 2019 hits, no more excuses, no more feeling sad for the behavior of others, they want to treat me like I don't matter and they want me to feel sad, anytime i smile or show happiness it begins. No HE is not allowed to be happy
    Why, why can I not be happy or myself? Why do i need to be controlled like an animal? The gas lighting will not work anymore. I will smile right when I see them and I want them to know, EDC is happy now, life is good and will be good
    I am done with feeling sorry for myself because of how others treat me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AR's King Silabolin View Post
    U just shut him/she up with developing your body to a hulkmuscular real mean figthingmachine. Then u dont even have to say anything, always be cool, always be satisfied. Its works in the high security prison yards too. My favourite TV shows. And channels. Dont run your mouth, be buff, be cool, be happy. it works everywhere.
    As Kali said, it even works towards hot girls. Being big and buff dont do shit. Cool, smile, big, buff...and the streetworld is yours buddy.
    I don't understand why he treats me this way, but could it be because he is over 300lbs and shorter than me? I can't believe I allowed myself to be played for so long

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    Quote Originally Posted by AR's King Silabolin View Post
    U just shut him/she up with developing your body to a hulkmuscular real mean figthingmachine. Then u dont even have to say anything, always be cool, always be satisfied. Its works in the high security prison yards too. My favourite TV shows. And channels. Dont run your mouth, be buff, be cool, be happy. it works everywhere.
    As Kali said, it even works towards hot girls. Being big and buff dont do shit. Cool, smile, big, buff...and the streetworld is yours buddy.
    Dude this is hilariously simple and true. The more muscular I get the calmer I feel and people just.. Seemingly worship everything i say. Dont gotta put any effort into shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by fiddlesticks View Post
    Dude this is hilariously simple and true. The more muscular I get the calmer I feel and people just.. Seemingly worship everything i say. Dont gotta put any effort into shit

    Worship might be a bit strong of a word. Imho your build, persona and the discipline the layman knows it requires simply command more respect from people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    I was going to explain the whole situation but no need to, whenever they begin to see the happiness in me return, whenever they see I am truly happy and enjoying life thats when it begins and it gets harder, life is about to get harder because I made a promise to myself, once 2019 hits, no more excuses, no more feeling sad for the behavior of others, they want to treat me like I don't matter and they want me to feel sad, anytime i smile or show happiness it begins. No HE is not allowed to be happy
    Why, why can I not be happy or myself? Why do i need to be controlled like an animal? The gas lighting will not work anymore. I will smile right when I see them and I want them to know, EDC is happy now, life is good and will be good
    I am done with feeling sorry for myself because of how others treat me.
    You need to stop focusing on the people who bring you down and focus on how to constantly better yourself bro.

    You have no control over others bullshit actions, and if your good attitude has people being a total shit to you...
    Say bye bye 100%

    It isn't going to get better nor will it change .


    From now on just focus on you and bettering yourself .

    You're very vague about your situations which makes us helping you not easy but logically you should distance yourself from negative vibes.
    Life is hard enough....

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    The thing about a narcissist is they don’t know, and care that they are. They will justify and rationalize in their own minds and to you why they act, say and do what they do. They are munipulative, controlling and extremely selfish. They bend their morality to shape their own world view and how they treat people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    The thing about a narcissist is they don’t know, and care that they are. They will justify and rationalize in their own minds and to you why they act, say and do what they do. They are munipulative, controlling and extremely selfish. They bend their morality to shape their own world view and how they treat people.
    No, the leader of the pack knows what he is, I broke him once before by not allowing him to control me and I saw it in him, he broke down right in front of me. He wants to be the boss, the big man and nobody else can be better than him. I wont play these games anymore
    He is weak and he needs to pick on someone else to gain his power, I have seen it in others, they go along with it because he is the top dog, what he says goes.
    I've taken on 15+ before, I am stronger than they will ever be and I'm a better leader
    I don't need to put someone else down to make myself look better, I am better

    Like i said, I'm done playing these games with them. Sadly, I don't know how long i have until another job opportunity comes around and i dont know if i can go into another work place and say yes i want to leave because my boss is a narcissist
    I have seen with my first hand experience, he crumbles when met with resistance and what he doesn't get he doesn't like. I get it now, he wants to be in total control
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    Probably best you just move on from that person and delete that negative energy from your life
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    I was going to explain the whole situation but no need to, whenever they begin to see the happiness in me return, whenever they see I am truly happy and enjoying life thats when it begins and it gets harder, life is about to get harder because I made a promise to myself, once 2019 hits, no more excuses, no more feeling sad for the behavior of others, they want to treat me like I don't matter and they want me to feel sad, anytime i smile or show happiness it begins. No HE is not allowed to be happy
    Why, why can I not be happy or myself? Why do i need to be controlled like an animal? The gas lighting will not work anymore. I will smile right when I see them and I want them to know, EDC is happy now, life is good and will be good
    I am done with feeling sorry for myself because of how others treat me.
    BUMP!
    Guys, i have to bring this up again because it seems to be some kind of issue for others
    I am happy and doing well in life and so far others at work have noticed my depression and sadness is gone, I am living life, I am happy and living well but today something happened at work. When I am happy it brings this person down so much they almost begin yelling out of nowhere and they get extremely aggressive against me to force me into sadness or depression meanwhile i take it all with a smile and I can feel them losing control of their own emotions

    Guys, please tell me why I have this affect? I am not allowed to be happy but others can, and when I am depressed others are happy but as soon as I am myself thats when there's a problem and I'm not allowed to be happy or something? Why are they trying to control me like this, i'm serious today was a special kind of day because i did nothing to anger anyone except show respect, kindness and leadership

    They get frustrated when I'm leading!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    BUMP!
    Guys, i have to bring this up again because it seems to be some kind of issue for others
    I am happy and doing well in life and so far others at work have noticed my depression and sadness is gone, I am living life, I am happy and living well but today something happened at work. When I am happy it brings this person down so much they almost begin yelling out of nowhere and they get extremely aggressive against me to force me into sadness or depression meanwhile i take it all with a smile and I can feel them losing control of their own emotions

    Guys, please tell me why I have this affect? I am not allowed to be happy but others can, and when I am depressed others are happy but as soon as I am myself thats when there's a problem and I'm not allowed to be happy or something? Why are they trying to control me like this, i'm serious today was a special kind of day because i did nothing to anger anyone except show respect, kindness and leadership

    They get frustrated when I'm leading!
    I would say the problem isn’t you. This other person is trying to juxtapose their problems and unhappiness into you. But it’s probably apparent to everyone around that he/she is the problem. You can’t rationalize it. It’s mental illness, arragance, self pity or whatever you want to say. But it’s not because you cause it. It’s their internal problem and theirs alone. Yes, he/she is projecting it onto you. But they only have as much power over you as you allow. If you continue to smile, thrive and be happy. Everyone will see that person is truly the problem and not you. Stay strong, smile when you can and be the better person that everyone else knows and expects of you. Even on those days it’s most hard.

    What do you do for work btw, sorry if I missed it somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    I would say the problem isn’t you. This other person is trying to juxtapose their problems and unhappiness into you. But it’s probably apparent to everyone around that he/she is the problem. You can’t rationalize it. It’s mental illness, arragance, self pity or whatever you want to say. But it’s not because you cause it. It’s their internal problem and theirs alone. Yes, he/she is projecting it onto you. But they only have as much power over you as you allow. If you continue to smile, thrive and be happy. Everyone will see that person is truly the problem and not you. Stay strong, smile when you can and be the better person that everyone else knows and expects of you. Even on those days it’s most hard.

    What do you do for work btw, sorry if I missed it somewhere.
    I'm in tech so nothing interesting really but this whole work situation is confusing to me. I think I may understand whats going on, he wants to control me and find ways to put me down.. Like i said hes a narcissist who needs to be on top
    I'm not even competition for him and he is above me and I RESPECT him even but he does this to me? He's insecure about something and I dont get it but im done anyway

    Today was just a weird encounter, its like he wants to dominate me and submit me to his will, he doesn't get it.. I'm a human being I dont play those games (as im sure others in society play them)
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    Sometimes a narcissist just needs a good ass beating.
    You just have to make sure its your word against theirs. Takes time to set up.

    I miss the days when you could knock the fuck out of someone who deserved it without thought.
    People were more polite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Sometimes a narcissist just needs a good ass beating.
    You just have to make sure its your word against theirs. Takes time to set up.

    I miss the days when you could knock the fuck out of someone who deserved it without thought.
    People were more polite.
    Yea man.. dont try to get me into trouble

    i'm trying to figure this out without resorting to name calling this guy, the day before I leave i do feel like i want to sit down with him and have him just tell me whats wrong with him because I dont really get it although i think i know what it is 100% (he wants to feel like an alpha and 15+ people have to be with him at all times for him to feel secure, what i find interesting is as soon as I'm happy for my own reasons gym, work, family, relationships etc.. than he begins to hate me, it was almost like he wanted to take me down today and i did nothing wrong to him at all).. i dont get it anymore
    Just had an odd encounter with this guy today, he must be very insecure to continue to push me down like i care about him that much tbh
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    I'm concerned they're going to try and sabotage my work, idk right now but i feel it
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    I'm in tech so nothing interesting really but this whole work situation is confusing to me. I think I may understand whats going on, he wants to control me and find ways to put me down.. Like i said hes a narcissist who needs to be on top
    I'm not even competition for him and he is above me and I RESPECT him even but he does this to me? He's insecure about something and I dont get it but im done anyway

    Today was just a weird encounter, its like he wants to dominate me and submit me to his will, he doesn't get it.. I'm a human being I dont play those games (as im sure others in society play them)
    I would scare him within an inch of his life.
    If he continued I would plan his beatdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    I'm concerned they're going to try and sabotage my work, idk right now but i feel it
    No job is worth that.
    Take care of him. Fix his shit.
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    i get it now... they're pushing me out of the company for hierarchy reasons, im being suppressed from advancement and its time to move on
    WELL DAMNN
    I have been applying already so they better hurry the fuck up and find me another job

    it seems like heavy squats and deadlifts get the mind working right ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    i get it now... they're pushing me out of the company for hierarchy reasons, im being suppressed from advancement and its time to move on
    WELL DAMNN
    I have been applying already so they better hurry the fuck up and find me another job

    it seems like heavy squats and deadlifts get the mind working right ...
    Makes sense.
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    pretty much only one thing to do at this point.

    Kidnap his ass, watch law abiding citizen and take out the trash.

    Never let anyone make you feel like this, the wife is only one that can pull this shit and and not get fed to alligators.

    watch alot of movies, then execute the plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    Don't really care anymore, I need answers
    How do I beat a narcissist in my life or do I cut them out of my life completely? There is no beating them so I'm left with leaving them and cutting them out of my life right?
    I have a degree in psych which doesn't make me an expert on anything other than staying in college long enough. Narcissism is a personality trait, Narcissistic Personality Disorder. If you and others recognize this person as having those traits a formal diagnosis is completely unnecessary. Personality disorders are not worth dealing with because someone always loses, usually the disordered and those affected by their existence. If the person you are talking about is a son or daughter, that's different. Otherwise, its a simple decision, but for some, it can be hard to have the strength of character or the self-worth to follow through. Think about it like a disease, you are affected by another's narcissism and in turn, you are spreading it to others, including people you care about. The only way to beat a narcissist is also the only way to insure that you and those you care about are safe from the bullshit. Fortunately, to beat them is completely up to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    Yea man.. dont try to get me into trouble

    i'm trying to figure this out without resorting to name calling this guy, the day before I leave i do feel like i want to sit down with him and have him just tell me whats wrong with him because I dont really get it although i think i know what it is 100% (he wants to feel like an alpha and 15+ people have to be with him at all times for him to feel secure, what i find interesting is as soon as I'm happy for my own reasons gym, work, family, relationships etc.. than he begins to hate me, it was almost like he wanted to take me down today and i did nothing wrong to him at all).. i dont get it anymore
    Just had an odd encounter with this guy today, he must be very insecure to continue to push me down like i care about him that much tbh

    That sir, is completely wrong. You leave... as in gone. Not as in, "I'm going to leave but I seek validation, 1) personal-in the way I feel about how I react to others, or 2) social-I have to have the approval of others." You just fucking leave and also think, "what can I do to eliminate anything that causes me to think of others as if they have a story to write into my biography."

    You could do as OBS said, set the motherfucker up and shut him down, without physical or (evidence of) emotional violence. But, it wouldn't really do much to fix the situation, in the long run. Being a narcissist, he is at his best in this arena and the laws protect douche bags...that's why there are so many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quester View Post
    That sir, is completely wrong. You leave... as in gone. Not as in, "I'm going to leave but I seek validation, 1) personal-in the way I feel about how I react to others, or 2) social-I have to have the approval of others." You just fucking leave and also think, "what can I do to eliminate anything that causes me to think of others as if they have a story to write into my biography."

    You could do as OBS said, set the motherfucker up and shut him down, without physical or (evidence of) emotional violence. But, it wouldn't really do much to fix the situation, in the long run. Being a narcissist, he is at his best in this arena and the laws protect douche bags...that's why there are so many.
    Well, looking at this situation from a different perspective I let this happen and i think its on me, I let them get into my head and push me down so they would get some kind of standing on the dominance hierarchy system and push me down over and over... its a game and i let them play it
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    The other thing you can do is start trying to get under his skin in ways that don't threaten your job.
    Find out what sets him off and grind it in.
    When he starts getting mad smile.

    Carry a tape recorder. He will blow up. Get him fired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    The other thing you can do is start trying to get under his skin in ways that don't threaten your job.
    Find out what sets him off and grind it in.
    When he starts getting mad smile.

    Carry a tape recorder. He will blow up. Get him fired.
    naa, you're wrong
    they dont fire the guys at the top, they fire the guys at the bottom

    i'm not stupid, just frustrated and pissed off at this point

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    naa, you're wrong
    they dont fire the guys at the top, they fire the guys at the bottom

    i'm not stupid, just frustrated and pissed off at this point
    If you get them to demean you on recording they are gone. It wont be the companies choice once a lawyer calls.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quester View Post
    I have a degree in psych which doesn't make me an expert on anything other than staying in college long enough. Narcissism is a personality trait, Narcissistic Personality Disorder. If you and others recognize this person as having those traits a formal diagnosis is completely unnecessary. Personality disorders are not worth dealing with because someone always loses, usually the disordered and those affected by their existence. If the person you are talking about is a son or daughter, that's different. Otherwise, its a simple decision, but for some, it can be hard to have the strength of character or the self-worth to follow through. Think about it like a disease, you are affected by another's narcissism and in turn, you are spreading it to others, including people you care about. The only way to beat a narcissist is also the only way to insure that you and those you care about are safe from the bullshit. Fortunately, to beat them is completely up to you.
    Quester is great with words. I feel very uneducated when I read his posts lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyJ View Post
    Quester is great with words. I feel very uneducated when I read his posts lol.
    He will do that.
    He has a Mark Twain styling.
    He needs to write a book.
    Like Twain he looks at things unbiasedly and rather than directly come to a resolution both sides are laid out as plainly as possible for the reader to decide.

    The thing that made Twain was not his writing or answers but just a questioning of everything.

    I was reading one of his posts a while back and thought I was reading Huckleberry Finn or Tom Sawyer.

    There was never a better authour.
    Hemingway couldnt pull you in like Twain did because Twain made you question your beliefs every chapter.

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    Its kinda funny, I have always considered myself a good writer.

    We write polar opposite though.
    I write every story with a resolution.
    Quester just kinda questions you from all sides and fades out leaving you to determine the answer.

    Lol!
    It is sophisticated as fuck and it works well

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    some random night thoughts after the gym, they want me to leave because they dont want to see how great i really am, they dont want me to change and become a new man
    They dont want to see me make it, achieve great things and change my life. they would rather i move on and experience a new workplace than everyone look at me changing mentally/physically and spiritually

    They dont want me to make it so they try to bring me down
    (they're just making me stronger now though, really stronger) i can deal with anything

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    I think the more i succeed, the more he hurts and he lashes out at me. He is in pain because of my success?
    I think i know whats the issue, i am a reminder of what he cant be
    My success to him is pure pain so he forces the rest of the group to go against me..
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    some random night thoughts after the gym, they want me to leave because they dont want to see how great i really am, they dont want me to change and become a new man
    They dont want to see me make it, achieve great things and change my life. they would rather i move on and experience a new workplace than everyone look at me changing mentally/physically and spiritually

    They dont want me to make it so they try to bring me down
    (they're just making me stronger now though, really stronger) i can deal with anything

    edit:
    I think the more i succeed, the more he hurts and he lashes out at me. He is in pain because of my success?
    I think i know whats the issue, i am a reminder of what he cant be
    My success to him is pure pain so he forces the rest of the group to go against me..
    Buddy you will run into jealousy more and more as you adcance.

    You gotta beat them at their game.
    Get him fired. Play the narcissist.
    He abides by a set of shallow mental rules and you don't. You can walk all over that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Buddy you will run into jealousy more and more as you adcance.

    You gotta beat them at their game.
    Get him fired. Play the narcissist.
    He abides by a set of shallow mental rules and you don't. You can walk all over that
    buddy? you dont mean what i think you mean do you.. im not one of those
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