Why NOT to take TEST in every cycle

[swoll4589]

LETS END IT--Obviosuly everyone has seen the ALTERNATIVE to crude test cycles...people must make up THEIR OWN minds...AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOME PICS OF THE TEST HEADS! you guys should be HUGE! and RIPPED! and HEALTYHY! Lets see what TEST DOES ...cmon!

Look at swolecat BIA.....wait swoles all natty, and he still looks better than you.

Bask8case does low dose test only cycles and he looks better than you.

The list could go on and on.

[TheMindOfRoss]

how old were you when you took you first cycle?

20 years old

[G-1000]

i would just like to say this it's ok that you think you dont need test in your cycles. but you are fu-ck-ing dumb to think this with all the proof there is out there.

hooker has proved you wrong as well as all the other members.

[TheMindOfRoss]

i would just like to say this it's ok that you think you dont need test in your cycles. but you are fu-ck-ing dumb to think this with all the proof there is out there.

hooker has proved you wrong as well as all the other members.

OF COURSE YOU NEED TEST in CYCLES--NOT EVERY CYCLE! This is the only distinction I am trying to make. You can make gains on a cycle without test--be they smaller or greater].

[Big Vick]

Ross you should never have posted your pics...

Your pics have nothing to do with your knowledge... you should back up what you preach with studies, I was listening to you bigtime until this turned into a thread about peoples bodies and lighting in pictures. Im sure alot of people are interested in what you are saying, so back it up with sources and you'll get the respect you deserve.

Sucks that this thread went into the shitter...

[swoll4589]

28 members viewing which 27 of them are pissed because you stirred up sh!t on AR.

[KINGKONG]

OF COURSE YOU NEED TEST in CYCLES--NOT EVERY CYCLE! This is the only distinction I am trying to make. You can make gains on a cycle without test--be they smaller or greater].

I see some back peddling going on...Next thing you know ross will be all for test only cycles..

[EatRite]

I only have 3 cycles under my belt...1 with test, 2 without. I am only 21.

like i said... i'm halfway done my first... and my size is easily the same as yours if not bigger... who's doing what right???

i've done 2.5 cycles less than you and i'm the same size... and ive been training for ~5 years, your at 7... TRAINING... ive been eating correctly for ~3 years now, your at 5.... so either way you slice the pie your fvcked on this one...

[G-1000]

this is true you can gain with out test. you can have good gains with no juice at all. if you have a good diet and workout.

[swoll4589]

has meso posted in this thread yet.... i hope he does before it gets locked

[BlInDsIdE]

like i said... i'm halfway done my first... and my size is easily the same as yours if not bigger... who's doing what right???

i've done 2.5 cycles less than you and i'm the same size... and ive been training for ~5 years, your at 7... TRAINING... ive been eating correctly for ~3 years now, your at 5.... so either way you slice the pie your fvcked on this one...

Ross- just wanted to inform u that u just got owned

[TheMindOfRoss]

like i said... i'm halfway done my first... and my size is easily the same as yours if not bigger... who's doing what right???

i've done 2.5 cycles less than you and i'm the same size... and ive been training for ~5 years, your at 7... TRAINING... ive been eating correctly for ~3 years now, your at 5.... so either way you slice the pie your fvcked on this one...

WHO has their HEALTH!? Its not JUST about gains..its about Gains: Sides ratio...and ILL GARUNTEE MY SKIN IS CLEARER, nipples are SMALLER, and I HAVE MORE HAIR THAN YOU.....

Once again...this is NOT A CONTEST..unless you want it to be one.

[swoll4589]

WHO has their HEALTH!? Its not JUST about gains..its about Gains: Sides ratio...and ILL GARUNTEE MY SKIN IS CLEARER, nipples are SMALLER, and I HAVE MORE HAIR THAN YOU.....

Once again...this is NOT A CONTEST..unless you want it to be one.

you forgot a smaller dick due to HTS (hate of test syndrome)

[EatRite]

WHO has their HEALTH!? Its not JUST about gains..its about Gains: Sides ratio...and ILL GARUNTEE MY SKIN IS CLEARER, nipples are SMALLER, and I HAVE MORE HAIR THAN YOU.....

Once again...this is NOT A CONTEST..unless you want it to be one.

lol... i have no acne right now... i experimented with a slightly higher dose of test and it made me break out on my back a little bit... i have a full head of hair, and my nipples are dead sexy... how can you garuntee these things... LOL... your really clutching at straws now buddy... how are you going to say that i'm less healthy than you when i'm half a cycle deep and you've done 3, 1 of which is the same as mine.... WITH TEST.... LOL....................

are you serious here?

[TheMindOfRoss]

And furthermore.....you may be my size, but you are definitely not even remotley close to my body fat levels, oy my vascularity developtment.

i am 204 lbs, 6% BF, 5'10.

[G-1000]

i dont give a fu-ck what you guys any of you guys look like.

this should be about the ass stating that you dont need test in a cycle.

[BlInDsIdE]

cough cough coWHERETHEHELLARETHELEGPICSROSSugh

[TheMindOfRoss]

and I fvck like a JACK RABBIT...on top of masterbating constantly..my sex drive is delicious

[EatRite]

ohhhh and by the way... due to my strict dieting and whatnot, i would hafta say that i'm in a pretty healthy state sherlock...

[musclestack]

I just thought I'd chime in to make it "448 posts".

[swoll4589]

And furthermore.....you may be my size, but you are definitely not even remotley close to my body fat levels, oy my vascularity developtment.

i am 204 lbs, 6% BF, 5'10.

your not even close to swolecats size and vascularity and hes all natty.

[BlInDsIdE]

And furthermore.....you may be my size, but you are definitely not even remotley close to my body fat levels, oy my vascularity developtment.

i am 204 lbs, 6% BF, 5'10.

wow ross even if hes not (i'm pretty sure he probably is) i am remember me, the 18 yr old who called u out earlier

[anaBROLIC]

I just thought I'd chime in to make it "448 posts".

[wolfyEVH]

I see some back peddling going on...Next thing you know ross will be all for test only cycles..

bwahahahaha!!!!!! not shit ross.....everyone here knows you can make gains without test.........but why make half ass gains with low to no test pumping through your body, when you can add test to cycles, not worry about test levels, make BETTER gains, and save some cash.......not everyone here gets sides from test........some here take over a gram a week with no anti-e.........the gains you're getting from your half ass cycles are from the var.....var is a class I steroid (binds to the AR receptor very well) and is one of the least suppressive steroids there are (but it still suppresses).......but the gains are minimal and the price isnt worth it.......i'll take a low dose of test over var only any day.......

[BG]

Ross you should never have posted your pics...

Your pics have nothing to do with your knowledge... you should back up what you preach with studies, I was listening to you bigtime until this turned into a thread about peoples bodies and lighting in pictures. Im sure alot of people are interested in what you are saying, so back it up with sources and you'll get the respect you deserve.

Sucks that this thread went into the shitter...

Exactly, I was too but no material back up a all !!!!!

[TheMindOfRoss]

your not even close to swolecats size and vascularity and hes all natty.

And so was Arnold...

SWOLE YOU LOOK GREAT! Actually--EXACTLY how i want to look. But it is my opinion that you MAY have used soem anabolics along the way--BEFORE you were enlightened....

[swoll4589]

I just thought I'd chime in to make it "448 posts".

haha yeah thats why im posting here (im a post whore) and this is kinduh fun. I enjoy some flaming now and then. Not the same flaming (flamer) that you enjoy ross. BTW is that gyno if your pic.

[EatRite]

And furthermore.....you may be my size, but you are definitely not even remotley close to my body fat levels, oy my vascularity developtment.

i am 204 lbs, 6% BF, 5'10.

if you could refrain from saying furthermore every 5 posts, that'd be great...


my bf in that pic was roughly 10% around 206-208... i think it evens out about the same... given my slight .5 inch height disadvantage (joking here fellas), if you calculate it out, we have THE SAME LBM!!!!


AWESOME!

[dive_kid]

WHO has their HEALTH!? Its not JUST about gains..its about Gains: Sides ratio...and ILL GARUNTEE MY SKIN IS CLEARER, nipples are SMALLER, and I HAVE MORE HAIR THAN YOU.....

Once again...this is NOT A CONTEST..unless you want it to be one.

my health is great. no gyno, full head of hair. face is clear, cant see most other areas......to many tattoos. now I do have higher bf% but nothing cardio and diet wont fix.
you keep saying that var is what will rip you up. correct me if I am wrong here: it is my understanding var is a lot like winny. it is a good hardener if bf% is already low. I always thought they did not burn fat, just cardio, trainning and diet will do that.
the way you talk, d-bol and var are the ultimate fat burner

[TheMindOfRoss]

Exactly, I was too but no material back up a all !!!!!

Where is the MATERIAL suggesting that taking TESTOSTERONE used in conjunction with other anabolics is MORE EFFECTIVE than OTHER various anabolic combonations?

Furthermore, TEST carries some BAD sides, that Var, primo, EQ, and EVEN d-bol (IN LOW DOSE) dont have....

I think we are all ACTUALLY AGREEING!

[swoll4589]

And so was Arnold...

SWOLE YOU LOOK GREAT! Actually--EXACTLY how i want to look. But it is my opinion that you MAY have used soem anabolics along the way--BEFORE you were enlightened....

swolecat is all natty. He has no affiliation with any illegal activitys or performance and phisque enhancing compounds.

He got that big by being a diet/workout guru.

[EatRite]

Where is the MATERIAL suggesting that taking TESTOSTERONE used in conjunction with other anabolics is MORE EFFECTIVE than OTHER various anabolic combonations?

Furthermore, TEST carries some BAD sides, that Var, primo, EQ, and EVEN d-bol (IN LOW DOSE) dont have....

I think we are all ACTUALLY AGREEING!

furthermore again????????? jesus man... is that all you say???? look up a synonym for crhist sake....

[swoll4589]

Where is the MATERIAL suggesting that taking TESTOSTERONE used in conjunction with other anabolics is MORE EFFECTIVE than OTHER various anabolic combonations?

Furthermore, TEST carries some BAD sides, that Var, primo, EQ, and EVEN d-bol (IN LOW DOSE) dont have....

I think we are all ACTUALLY AGREEING!

in hookers steroid profile section..... with cites!!!!!
check it out sometime

[BlInDsIdE]

Ross seriously i really want to see ur legs will u please post a pic

[G-1000]

d-bol has more sides then test. it is also hard on the liver that makes it worse then test.

[BlInDsIdE]

and please have ur pants above ur cock so we don't see ur pubs this time u weirdo

[TheMindOfRoss]

Ross seriously i really want to see ur legs will u please post a pic

You mustn't have heard my PREVIOUS POST--I will post them tomorrow PWO, whilst I have a "Pump"....

My ass is the sickest ASS you have ever seen...

[TheMindOfRoss]

all you homos imagining...LOLOLOL..nice VISUAL, eh?

[BlInDsIdE]

ross if u post a pic of ur ass then i'm not going to stop until ur banned....

[TheMindOfRoss]

ross if u post a pic of ur ass then i'm not going to stop until ur banned....

LOLOL

nah man..in a thong...