How many f*cking times!!! Grow into your dose!!

**Dadstrength** · 05-03-2013, 04:02 PM

Well maybe you could point me in a direction that would explain its 'stupidity'? From what I see and read it seems to work for many people. In the meantime.. Could someone else, maybe someone who used it tell me if I'm correct in my thinking.

**MickeyKnox** · 05-03-2013, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Dadstrength

Ok so question. If I'm doing sts and my blast looks like this
Week 1-8: 500 mg test e
Week 9-10: 250mg test e
Week 11-18: 750mg test e
Week 19-20: 250mg test e
Week 21-24: pct
Then no aas till week 30. On my second blast I should go back to 500 and see if I notice gains. On the off chance I don't then bump it to 750. Right?

Dadstrength,

Can you open a new thread and copy this into the Q&A forums for others to see and comment? This will be the best place to post a question like this. Thanks man!

Originally Posted by JimmySidewalk

That cycle is stupid. Not even going to touch why it is so. Do more research before you hurt yourself.

Not cool man.

If you dont agree thats ok. But at least take the time to outline why you disagree so the OP can have a better understanding and perhaps be able to make an informed decision. Simply saying its stupid is only flaming and not tolerated here.

**Dadstrength** · 05-03-2013, 06:11 PM

Thanks Mickey. Still new here. And trying to learn as much as possible.

**JimmySidewalk** · 05-04-2013, 10:09 AM

I was not trying to offend. The thing is, you need to read a lot before going on a cycle. Planning a cycle like that just shows you are not in control of what you are doing and you will hurt your body. I was only trying to point out that such a cycle is not proper.
That said, I see no point in going up and down with the amount of test like that.
If you want 750 per week, go with 750 for all weeks. Then finish and go to PCT or TRT, whatever is your choice.
Moreover, its too long, you are not going to see any results from about midway till end.

When you finish, do a proper PCT, take some time off, let the body breath.

**Dadstrength** · 05-04-2013, 10:36 PM

Originally Posted by JimmySidewalk

I was not trying to offend. The thing is, you need to read a lot before going on a cycle. Planning a cycle like that just shows you are not in control of what you are doing and you will hurt your body. I was only trying to point out that such a cycle is not proper.
That said, I see no point in going up and down with the amount of test like that.
If you want 750 per week, go with 750 for all weeks. Then finish and go to PCT or TRT, whatever is your choice.
Moreover, its too long, you are not going to see any results from about midway till end.

When you finish, do a proper PCT, take some time off, let the body breath.

Thanks for explaining what you meant. The cycle I outlined is actually exactly what he recommends in the sts thread. I was just curious on how it would apply to the message of this thread. But Thanks again for clarifying what you meant.

**MickeyKnox** · 05-07-2013, 07:37 PM

Bump..

**MickeyKnox** · 05-14-2013, 08:25 AM

This should be a sticky..

**Enfermo** · 05-15-2013, 10:32 PM

I have a lot more reading to do......

**Zoey101Fan** · 05-15-2013, 11:16 PM

This is stupid. There is absolutely no reason to "grow into your dose" from my experiences.

(well there might be a few health-related reasons)

**MickeyKnox** · 05-16-2013, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Zoey101Fan

This is stupid. There is absolutely no reason to "grow into your dose" from my experiences.

(well there might be a few health-related reasons)

Interesting comment Zoey. Can you expand on your theory for us? Serious question by the way. Im always up for learning new ideas and opinions.

**Zoey101Fan** · 05-16-2013, 11:23 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Interesting comment Zoey. Can you expand on your theory for us? Serious question by the way. Im always up for learning new ideas and opinions.

thank you mickey.

I enjoy doing small cycles. Test only. I am an injured powerlifter so I don't feel the need to cycle anything extreme at this time. I got friends that have started cycling at 2+ grams per week. They pass me up in size in about a few months. If you wanna be really massive, do really massive cycles. simple as that. There's no benefit to starting out small besides health reasons.

**EKFitness** · 05-16-2013, 11:26 PM

i actually know nothing on this topic, however

with heroin, you develop a tolerance, anyone who tried to use the dose a person who has been shooting up for years does would likely overdose their first time

unless steroids is not a drug one can build a tolerance to, I see no reason why this same theory would not carry over into AAS

**austinite** · 05-16-2013, 11:31 PM

No drug talk fellas.

**EKFitness** · 05-17-2013, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by austinite

No drug talk fellas.

was an analogy. for arguments sake.

**austinite** · 05-17-2013, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by EKFitness

was an analogy. for arguments sake.

I understand. It Doesn't matter.

**BBJT200** · 05-17-2013, 01:21 AM

I disagree....from what i've read, higher levels of testosterone increase growth of NEW satelite muscle cells.
More test = more new cells, rather than bigger cells.
By that logic, more test = superior.

**EKFitness** · 05-17-2013, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by BBJT200

I disagree....from what i've read, higher levels of testosterone increase growth of NEW satelite muscle cells.
More test = more new cells, rather than bigger cells.
By that logic, more test = superior.

we weren't arguing the growth aspect and positive benefits being more, just that the negatives outweighs them.

**MickeyKnox** · 05-18-2013, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Zoey101Fan

thank you mickey.

I enjoy doing small cycles. Test only. I am an injured powerlifter so I don't feel the need to cycle anything extreme at this time. I got friends that have started cycling at 2+ grams per week. They pass me up in size in about a few months. If you wanna be really massive, do really massive cycles. simple as that. There's no benefit to starting out small besides health reasons.

Bingo.

This is why, amongst other reasons, its important to grow into your dose. Most people continue to show gains using the same Test only cycle for two and three times. Sure, you will make your biggest gains on your first cycle, but adding a shopping cart of unnecessary amounts of AAS will not make you and bigger. Gains are made and lost in the kitchen, not the needle - thats a biological fact.

Sorry for getting back you so late.

**Nicholas1** · 05-23-2013, 02:50 PM

Great post

**MajorPectorial** · 05-23-2013, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Bingo.

This is why, amongst other reasons, its important to grow into your dose. Most people continue to show gains using the same Test only cycle for two and three times. Sure, you will make your biggest gains on your first cycle, but adding a shopping cart of unnecessary amounts of AAS will not make you and bigger. Gains are made and lost in the kitchen, not the needle - thats a biological fact.

Sorry for getting back you so late.

Bumpety bump. I think grow into ur.dose.should be.drummed into everyone. Still, you.can tell.ppl till u turn blue n still they do it.

They.dont realise that aas is only one tiny.piece of a.huge.jigsaw. diet training. Types of.training. lifestyle. Water intake. Ancills. I could go on for.an hour going more.n more.into.deatail. aas should.be looked.at after youve mastered every other aspect of training. Only then step on the ladder.

So bumpety bump