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    Quote Originally Posted by RoidReaper View Post
    U trippin on drugs boy? lol.
    we'll see who the clever one is soon KBD.

    now let the thread return to subject

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    we'll see who the clever one is soon KBD.

    now let the thread return to subject
    Rofl, ok man. Whatever u say.


    Anyways to answer back to what you said, bench shirts indeed add alot of weight to your max.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoidReaper View Post
    Rofl, ok man. Whatever u say.


    Anyways to answer back to what you said, bench shirts indeed add alot of weight to your max.
    not 300lbs they dont, i used them for 16yrs, extremely lucky to get 90lbs outa one

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    not 300lbs they dont, i used them for 16yrs, extremely lucky to get 90lbs outa one
    Then idk how a 148lb woman is benching 402. Doesnt seem right.

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    315 lbs 6-8 reps if it was my first excercise lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoidReaper View Post
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    Ill be one of few people on boards and post pics of myself. This is me @ 190lbs right now standing at 5'11 with 18.5 inch arms.

    Still dont believe me?
    Your 5"11? Il take your word for it but damb your big for 190lbs at 5"11! Not everyone is the same but if your stats are real then you a large dude for your height and size!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoidReaper View Post
    Then idk how a 148lb woman is benching 402. Doesnt seem right.
    id see infront of me before id believe it

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    what the f are these bench shirts and how do they give you that much more lift?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckt12345 View Post
    what the f are these bench shirts and how do they give you that much more lift?
    for plifting mate, they are super tight and stretch under alot of force, the way they are stitched makes them fight against weight bearing down and they give a spring like effect off the bottom of a lift. ive had bench shirts actually cut my arms and squat suits so tight it took 220kgs bearing down on me just to be able to get down below parallel, they cut my legs to ribbons, actually drew blood

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    6'1", 215lbs, 10% BF, 78" wingspan, 320 1RM. Currently natural. Have cycled before though. Bench will never be my strong suit with my orangutan arms...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    not 300lbs they dont, i used them for 16yrs, extremely lucky to get 90lbs outa one
    while im not trying to take sides in the feud, but ive trained with a very sucessful powerlifter able to bench always around 600 with a shirt, but when training raw he'd be lucky to get 300, another guy can barely get 225 raw but gets 420 with a shirt
    some guys get more, some less, but thats the reason why gear is so dumb, you never know how strong somebody TRULY is

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifter65 View Post
    while im not trying to take sides in the feud, but ive trained with a very sucessful powerlifter able to bench always around 600 with a shirt, but when training raw he'd be lucky to get 300, another guy can barely get 225 raw but gets 420 with a shirt
    some guys get more, some less, but thats the reason why gear is so dumb, you never know how strong somebody TRULY is
    what type shirts though? in the fed i lifted in at that time only single ply shirts were permitted (you'd get 90lbs max from the best inzer shirts, absolutely no way 300lbs), no denim or multiply shirts

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    Bench shirts are bull shit...If you count a bench shirt then that b.s. Raw is all that really matters I dont care what anyone says...you might as well get somone to grab the bar while you lift and take 100lbs off the bar for you????

    Raw is all that counts in my eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awms View Post
    Bench shirts are bull shit...If you count a bench shirt then that b.s. Raw is all that really matters I dont care what anyone says...you might as well get somone to grab the bar while you lift and take 100lbs off the bar for you????

    Raw is all that counts in my eyes.
    yeah, but we do have plifting federations where theres no limitation on what type shirt and leotard is worn, hence the evolution of dead suits, squat suits and bench shirts, its not BS if everyone is on an even keel. some idiot benching in the gym with one for no reason is idiotic, but whats the point in turning up 4 a meet ill equipped?! my best raw is 160kg and my best comp shirted is 170kg, ive done 180kg not paused in training with shirt.

    the shirt doesnt do it all for you, and some take alot of getting used to, its an acquired skill in itself benching properly in one.

    i wish some wouldnt talk crap about what they've no experience of
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    Weighing in at about 195. I can smash the 225 about 15 times. Last max out was at 350.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    what type shirts though? in the fed i lifted in at that time only single ply shirts were permitted (you'd get 90lbs max from the best inzer shirts, absolutely no way 300lbs), no denim or multiply shirts
    ehh i actually meant to type 600 equipped 400 raw, but it was all out,. use as much as you want
    but idk just watching them waddle with their equipment on is just strange and its not fun to watch imo

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    What is the point in shirts anyway? If everyone is wearing one they are still competing equally so everybody may as well not wear one at all.

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    I have very long levers, no excuse I know, but it's true. Current weight is about 194Lbs I believe.

    Can bench 300Lbs. Easily rep 230 for 6 on a flat, full range of motion ofcourse. Can lift 430Lbs (as of yesterday). Completely raw. Don't even use chalk on my deadlift, even with 350 for reps, controlled.

    Squatting 264Lbs for reps just now, ass to grass, not tried a ORM yet as trying to work on my deadlift mainly, followed by bench. And using the squat as a secondary for my deadlift. Seems to be working well so far! Not amazing lifts at all, but only really been focusing on strength for a matter of months.

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    Whats the best benchpress in this thread so far, 350lbs? I can do 380...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nilrac View Post
    I have very long levers, no excuse I know, but it's true. Current weight is about 194Lbs I believe.

    Can bench 300Lbs. Easily rep 230 for 6 on a flat, full range of motion ofcourse. Can lift 430Lbs (as of yesterday). Completely raw. Don't even use chalk on my deadlift, even with 350 for reps, controlled.

    Squatting 264Lbs for reps just now, ass to grass, not tried a ORM yet as trying to work on my deadlift mainly, followed by bench. And using the squat as a secondary for my deadlift. Seems to be working well so far! Not amazing lifts at all, but only really been focusing on strength for a matter of months.

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    160kg raw bench is impressive mate. Good job.
    cheers. i wouldnt count chalk as a lifting aid in the same sense mate, i pull 250kgs for 3reps atm and by the time ive warmed up to that my hands would be way to slippy. 200kg + squats need chalked hands also as the bar is below my traps

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    cheers. i wouldnt count chalk as a lifting aid in the same sense mate, i pull 250kgs for 3reps atm and by the time ive warmed up to that my hands would be way to slippy. 200kg + squats need chalked hands also as the bar is below my traps
    Yeah I see what you are saying mate. I guess it also simply comes down to how sweaty one's hands get while lifting! 250kg lift for reps is great lifting. I'm aiming for a 210kg deadlift (462lbs) in the shorter term. And 150kg (330lbs) bench (ORM) is the target while staying as light as possible (around 200lbs). I hate it when somebody tells me they can bench 100kg for reps then get on a bench and have absolutely no range of motion, sometimes not even a partial! Don't get me wrong, I know partials etc play their part in training methods however don't tell me you can bench something then proceed to move the bar a couple of inches. When all the while I am taking the bar all the way to my chest... pausing for a second... then powering up.

    Really getting into my strength training. My mate is very clued up and has me on a sub max % and max % training regime and specific secondary exercises for specific sets/reps. Before this my weight training was all over the place, but sticking to this program is really helping me!

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    i dont pause at all that will slow your lift for sure continuous motion is key to maxing on bench , with out any bounce at all.

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    Need a little advice here now...

    I hurt my shoulder really badly a year and a half ago. It took me 9 months to heal it but I swear I can feel the damaged tissue when I exercise it. Because of this I have stopped lowering the bar to my chest and have resolved to lowering my elbows just passed 90 degrees. Puts the bar about 4"(10cm) above my chest to help avoid re-injury.

    I have a bigger, stronger, more cut chest than at any point in my life before, but I read a lot of you slamming on this technique so I better ask:

    Am I way of track here and should revert to lowerimg the bar to my chest even if I can feel the scar tissue get pulled on? It doesn't feel like it will tear but I do not like lowering he bar the last 4"(10cm) because of the mind f!ck it causes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cro View Post
    i dont pause at all that will slow your lift for sure continuous motion is key to maxing on bench , with out any bounce at all.
    for plift comp you have to pause (and some refs like to fookin torture you lol), this eliminates any accusations of 'bouncing'. it gets ingrained in you from the start and you tend to do it all the time then. gives a nice pec stretch aswell

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheClinch View Post
    Need a little advice here now...

    I hurt my shoulder really badly a year and a half ago. It took me 9 months to heal it but I swear I can feel the damaged tissue when I exercise it. Because of this I have stopped lowering the bar to my chest and have resolved to lowering my elbows just passed 90 degrees. Puts the bar about 4"(10cm) above my chest to help avoid re-injury.

    I have a bigger, stronger, more cut chest than at any point in my life before, but I read a lot of you slamming on this technique so I better ask:

    Am I way of track here and should revert to lowerimg the bar to my chest even if I can feel the scar tissue get pulled on? It doesn't feel like it will tear but I do not like lowering he bar the last 4"(10cm) because of the mind f!ck it causes.
    dumb bells, i cant bench anymore due to rotators, dbells will develope you a hell of alot better, im up to 57.5kgs now and have a much more 'square' appearance in my pecs rather than the 'bowl' type shape plifting gave me. funny thing is, if i went above 80kgs on a barbell i'd be in pain

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    dumb bells, i cant bench anymore due to rotators, dbells will develope you a hell of alot better, im up to 57.5kgs now and have a much more 'square' appearance in my pecs rather than the 'bowl' type shape plifting gave me. funny thing is, if i went above 80kgs on a barbell i'd be in pain
    I appreciate the input. 57.5kg db press is really impressive bro good on you

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheClinch View Post
    I appreciate the input. 57.5kg db press is really impressive bro good on you
    should add that i only do incline presses aswell mate, flat bench just doesnt agree with me anymore at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    should add that i only do incline presses aswell mate, flat bench just doesnt agree with me anymore at all
    So what does your chest program look like right now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheClinch View Post
    So what does your chest program look like right now?
    incline dbells press and seated fly machine (no break between dbells and fly, 6sets dbells, 4 sets fly) my pecs are just about tearing off the bone after it.

    been following this due to shoulder probs (only combo that doesnt hurt me) and have had great development over the past 6wks. yet more proof that you dont need a multitude of exercises and sets.

    i also do shoulders with this workout

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    incline dbells press and seated fly machine (no break between dbells and fly, 6sets dbells, 4 sets fly) my pecs are just about tearing off the bone after it.

    been following this due to shoulder probs (only combo that doesnt hurt me) and have had great development over the past 6wks. yet more proof that you dont need a multitude of exercises and sets.

    i also do shoulders with this workout
    I'll give that a go to see how it plays out. Thanks for sharing

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheClinch View Post
    I'll give that a go to see how it plays out. Thanks for sharing
    no prob, oh i also do tri's with it, means delts and tri's are getting hit just the once a week, which for me = more rest which = more growth

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    Quote Originally Posted by dec11 View Post
    no prob, oh i also do tri's with it, means delts and tri's are getting hit just the once a week, which for me = more rest which = more growth
    Alright now I have to ask: what does that overall training day look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheClinch View Post
    Alright now I have to ask: what does that overall training day look like?
    incline dbell presses
    fly mach.
    single side dbell shoulder presses
    single hand tri ext, superset overhand and underhand grip
    standing double hand dbell hammer type raise, front delts (reverse of lying pullover)
    tri's rope extension
    very light lateral dbell raise , side delts

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    the bar!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley View Post
    the bar!!!!!
    ? Bar ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vullfromsc View Post
    yeah, and we have similar bodyfat around 8-10% and are both around 6'0"-6'1".. he just has short ass arms and a genetically large chest (like dinner plate large.. it looks like he is going to tip over sometimes) lol
    Im right there with you. Bit taller and lighter but long arms. I can hit 315x5-6. Which im quite happy with.
    I've had buddies that were short and about 60lbs lighter than me easily putting up my max in reps. Size does matter but honestly I'd rather be 6'2 and benching 315 than 5'2 and benching 500

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    Yeah I've done mostly dumbbell presses for my chest the past how many years. Can work 45kg dbs on an incline for reps. Only recently started trying to maximise bench with a powerlifting technique. My gym just got 50kg db's in so looking forward to trying those

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheClinch View Post
    ? Bar ?
    Yes the Bar, you know the long metal pole that holds weight and sits horizontally over a bench. That Bar!!! Got it???

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    not on cycle i average around 185lbs at 5'10" with 12%bf. i typically max out at 265 for one. on cycle i'm around 205 and 13%bf. my most ever was 315 for 3 unassisted. that was two weeks after last pin of test 500. i can't dead lift or squat for shit... really now that i think about it, the only thing i find remotely ok in comparison to my gym is that i'm the only one military pressing 225 not on a cycle... i've never tried on due to fear of ****ing my neck

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    Quote Originally Posted by wmaousley;5700***
    Yes the Bar, you know the long metal pole that holds weight and sits horizontally over a bench. That Bar!!! Got it???
    What does exclaiming "The bar!!!" with no reference accomplish? It seems like nonsense. Got it?

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