My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

[austinite]

Yes. Nac is enough.

Check these articles for explanation of NAC benefits and gynecomastia .

Austinite's Educational Article Database

[Volkan]

I read the Week 1-14 section and;

Does that mean PCT starts week 14 or 14 days after the end of week 14? Because that schedule has you taking adex 2 weeks straight on it's own just wondering if that included PCT

[austinite]

PCT start times:

Testosterone Enanthate = 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate = 18 day after last injection
Testosterone Propionate = 3 days after last injection

You should always use adex until your PCT starts. Only stop adex when PCT starts.

[base4291ball]

PCT start times:

Testosterone Enanthate = 14 days after last injection
Testosterone Cypionate = 18 day after last injection
Testosterone Propionate = 3 days after last injection

You should always use adex until your PCT starts. Only stop adex when PCT starts.

Wow, that's very helpful! To bad we can't make that reply of yours austinite a sticky alone! I'm going to have to copy and paste to remember this, thank you so much doc!

[austinite]

Wow, that's very helpful! To bad we can't make that reply of yours austinite a sticky alone! I'm going to have to copy and paste to remember this, thank you so much doc!

I'll add it to the original post.

[base4291ball]

I'll add it to the original post.

Please do! This is vital info newbie like me. I'm sure others will benefit from this just as much as I will, thanks again.

[Volkan]

Thanks Austin

[austinite]

You're welcome. Original post updated with that info.

[Arnoldtobe]

I sure wish this was available for me to read 10 years ago. Great info. Couple questions:
1. Is tamoxifen the same thing as nolvadex ? Maybe I got confused in reading. I thought tamoxifen was to reverse gyno? Been reading a lot of posts, could have mixed up reading
2. When should u start PCT after Sus since it is a combination of esters?

[austinite]

I sure wish this was available for me to read 10 years ago. Great info. Couple questions:
1. Is tamoxifen the same thing as nolvadex ? Maybe I got confused in reading. I thought tamoxifen was to reverse gyno? Been reading a lot of posts, could have mixed up reading
2. When should u start PCT after Sus since it is a combination of esters?

1. Yes. It used for both; PCT and gynecomastia reversal.
2. 18 to 21 days is fine.

[Volkan]

I had my Dexa Scan done this morning, but having trouble working out my daily p/c/f requirements, I've used your formula but I must be doing something wrong as the figures I end up with are way out of whack :/
These are my scan results;

Lean: 48.098
Fat: 8.740
Weight: 130.66 lbs
Height: 5 ft 8"
% Fat: 14.75%
TDEE: 2212

I'm after my p/c/f for a diet critique, any help would be greatly appreciated

[austinite]

^ Dexa should have given you a lot more detail. Where's the rest of the data?

[Volkan]

I've got all the papers here with me, all of the other stats are just crap about what body part has how much mass and fat etc etc

[Volkan]

Yeah that's all the relevant info I've got

[austinite]

Ok. What exactly are you not able to figure out? You have your weight (too low for cycling btw), your BF% and your TDEE.

[Volkan]

The amount of p/c/f I should be consuming of course, I thought the whole point of getting the lbm bf and tdee was so you can determine the pcf lol

[Volkan]

This is how a sample diet would look like on a bulk:

255 grams protein [ 1020 calories ] which is 33 % of caloric intake
340 grams carbs [ 1360 calories ] which is 45 % of caloric intake
75 grams fats [ 675 calories ] which is 22 % of caloric intake

Trying to figure that table out so I can create an eating plan.

[Back In Black]

Trying to figure that table out so I can create an eating plan.

You'd be better off in the nutrition forum and starting a thread in there buddy.

[Volkan]

I started one there but people just kept going way off topic, It's ok, I'll just forget about it

[Back In Black]

I started one there but people just kept going way off topic, It's ok, I'll just forget about it

Really? I only see one thread of yours and that's in the anabolic q&a section?

[base4291ball]

Austinite, I gotta question about starting my first cycle and hcg .

[austinite]

Austinite, I gotta question about starting my first cycle and hcg.

What's up?

[base4291ball]

What's up?

I was going to ask if It would be smart of me to start my cycle before my hCG got to me but I know the answer to that already, nvm. I'm just itching to go!

[austinite]

I was going to ask if It would be smart of me to start my cycle before my hCG got to me but I know the answer to that already, nvm. I'm just itching to go!

haha. I think you know the answer - Always have everything on hand.

[base4291ball]

haha. I think you know the answer - Always have everything on hand.

hCG should be in next week and rox tomorrow just in case for boobies & ill be starting next Thursday in 9 days and make a thread just for my progress on cycle. FYI...

[austinite]

There's no such thing as a stupid question

I receive a TON of Private Messages regarding this thread. Folks, there are no silly questions. Every single question is valid and useful to others. The only stupid questions are the ones we don't ask! Please ask questions here, there is nothing to be embarrassed about. Everyone will benefit from your questions and the answers you receive. If you have a good reason where privacy is vital, I understand. Otherwise, please post your questions here.

PM box is overwhelming at the moment and I can barely keep up with it. I prefer to answer questions publicly.

Thanks, your friend,

~ Austinite

[Luisml1973]

Hello,

First time poster here, but I've been lurking around for a while now. Today I decided to call an old friend two see if can get get the number of a "Supplier" without him knowing what I was up to, but before I got a chance to ask, he tells me he's on a cycle. So I'm like, that's exactly what I was calling for LOL. Anyways, he starts telling me how great he feels and how much weight he's pun on blah.. blah..blah..

So I tell him to give me the dudes number, but he tells me he has an extra bottle if I want it. Fast forward two hours and I'm stiiting here typing with a bottle of Testosterone Enanthate . The bottle says Pro lab Stack 375 Human Grade 10 ml. Can I post pics of the Bottle?

My questions are.

1 How often do I take this, 1ml/week?
2 What size needles do i need?

I've read this thread already so I don't plan on starting the cycle until I get my hands on some HCG and Arimidex . I plan on doing the blood work tomorrow morning.

Description: The Hormone Panel for Males contains the following tests:
- Lipid Profile
-Complete Blood Count w/ Differential
-Estradiol, Sensitive
-Insulin Growth Factor (IGF-1)
-Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
-Testosterone (Free) , Serum (Equilibrium Ultrafiltration) With Total Testosterone
-Prostate-Specific Antigen (PSA)
-Thyroid Profile

I'm meeting the supplier this evening, so I hope to get the rest of the stuff today and hopefully needles.

PS. I'm already down to 13% body fat 6'0" 173 lbs.

Thanks

[austinite]

^ 23 to 25 gauge 1 inch needle.

Yes, you can post a picture, just make sure the source is not in the image, only the UGL is allowed.

All other questions are answered in the thread. Good luck to you.

[Luisml1973]

Ok thanks,

I was able to get Arimidex and Clomid but no HCG . He says Its very hard to get, so now i dont know how to proceed. I read some threads where they say you can Replace HCG with Clomid Instead?

I was able to read the fine print in the Bottle.

Testosterone Enanthate 125mg
Drostanolone Enanthate 125mg
Trenbolone Enanthate 125mg

If It's not safe to do this without the hcg, then I'll just return it?

Thanks

[austinite]

No. You cannot replace hCG with clomid. Clomids purpose is to turn on LH signal at the pituitary, which is already suppressed by injecting testosterone . You'd be fighting a losing battle.

hCG is available all over the net. I cannot mention sources because it's against the rules. That is for you to do the leg work.

You should return that compound, it contains trenbolone , the most anabolic androgenic steroid available. Not a first cycle compound whatsoever. Also contains masteron . With 3 compounds which you would have no control over, you'll never be able to narrow down side effects.

You need testosterone enanthate only. No mixed compounds.

[Luisml1973]

On last thing please. If I am able to get the Test E alone. Im still going to need the HCG . I did some research online , and all I could find is woman ordering from some websites for some type of diet. The woman on those forums claim all you need is to fill out a questionnaire and thats it!!! Is this the same HCG? seems too easy?

Thanks again

[Bodacious]

Where do you go do get the blood work done ?
I would like to start a cycle which would be my first. I want to make sure I got everything in line. You just take a piece of paper in the Doc. Office and say I need this blood work done?Lol...How much does blood work cost usually? Thanks

[austinite]

Where do you go do get the blood work done ?
I would like to start a cycle which would be my first. I want to make sure I got everything in line. You just take a piece of paper in the Doc. Office and say I need this blood work done?Lol...How much does blood work cost usually? Thanks

How to get accurate testosterone level results on blood work

[Biological Hazard]

Excellent post. I know personally I'm following this as although my bodyfat isn't that high, it's not where it needs to be to start.

[Luisml1973]

Where do you go do get the blood work done ?
I would like to start a cycle which would be my first. I want to make sure I got everything in line. You just take a piece of paper in the Doc. Office and say I need this blood work done?Lol...How much does blood work cost usually? Thanks

I just use a company called Private Md Labs. You pay online for the tests you want. They email you some paperwork that you print and take to the nearest Labcorp to you. In 5 days they email you the results. no doctors needed.

PS: I ended up getting Test C. 200mg

[sammyc]

Hey I'm new to the site and I'm here doing research because I've been thinking about taking some anabolics to help me lose some weight and get cut and stronger. Yes I read the part about age but I've had x-rays done and my doctors has told me that I'm pretty much down growing. I'm 18 6'3 in February 2013 I tipped the scale at 290lbs and have been dieting and exercising and changing things up every few weeks and now I'm at 250lbs and I can't seem to go any down anymore. I'm currently taking supplements (all natural stuff like coffee bean extract etc.), multivitamins, and hydroxycut extreme. What do you guys suggest I do and do you think it'll be a good choice to start a cycle or should I stick to dieting and exercising. BTW I'm not all fat, besides the man boobs lol, I'm an athletic big guy. I played football in high school and i run 1.5m in 14 mins flat.

[austinite]

Hey I'm new to the site and I'm here doing research because I've been thinking about taking some anabolics to help me lose some weight and get cut and stronger. Yes I read the part about age but I've had x-rays done and my doctors has told me that I'm pretty much down growing. I'm 18 6'3 in February 2013 I tipped the scale at 290lbs and have been dieting and exercising and changing things up every few weeks and now I'm at 250lbs and I can't seem to go any down anymore. I'm currently taking supplements (all natural stuff like coffee bean extract etc.), multivitamins, and hydroxycut extreme. What do you guys suggest I do and do you think it'll be a good choice to start a cycle or should I stick to dieting and exercising. BTW I'm not all fat, besides the man boobs lol, I'm an athletic big guy. I played football in high school and i run 1.5m in 14 mins flat.

Hit the nutrition section 1st brother. They can help you. Even if your xrays indicate you've grown, your endocrine system is not completely matured. I do not recommend steroids at all.

[sammyc]

Ok will do thanks alot!!

[●Jay●]

I have propionate , decca, and cypionate .

How much should I take and when?

I'm not following the hole guidelines mentioned earlier.

[austinite]

I have propionate , decca, and cypionate .

How much should I take and when?

I'm not following the hole guidelines mentioned earlier.

If you're not following guidelines, start a new thread and ask for advice.