My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

[BigGuns89]

Great read very helpful to rookie users

[austinite]

Would it be possible to take 4ui of HGH and 50mg of wynztrol with this protocol? It wouldn't interfere or harm my body with this would it?

Adding or taking away anything would no longer be my protocol or recommendation.

[grappler135]

Great info! Really would like to be able to find Arimidex ...

[austinite]

Great info! Really would like to be able to find Arimidex...

Welcome to Ar-r.com!

[poizonn]

Why HCG and Test simultaneously?

I have read a couple of other articles and people say while on Test, your body shuts down your natural test production and HCG makes your body produce test, so it would be like crossing two opposite things?

From the other stuff I've read, they say to take Test and arimidex , then HCG in the PCT to make the body produce its own test and restore it's levels.

What are your thoughts on this? I'm confused


Thanks in advance.

[austinite]

Why HCG and Test simultaneously?

I have read a couple of other articles and people say while on Test, your body shuts down your natural test production and HCG makes your body produce test, so it would be like crossing two opposite things?

From the other stuff I've read, they say to take Test and arimidex , then HCG in the PCT to make the body produce its own test and restore it's levels.

What are your thoughts on this? I'm confused


Thanks in advance.

HCG: Why you should use it on-cycle only & how to prepare your hCG for injections

[Little ant]

this write up pretty much saved me from a trial and error cycle. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for writing this up. This has made the entire process so much simpler and directly to the point. I really wish you could attached this to every bottle of steroids bought. But now for my questions..
Is there anyway that you can just inject one time instead of multiple times for the day? Like can you just add your Test with your HCG with what ever liquids that you are running?
And I have always heard that test reduces body fat not by much but that it does so if you run a straight test cycle will that help reduce a little body fat (meaning can I start my cycle at 18-20% body fat)? Thank you again this is some excellent work here.

[austinite]

this write up pretty much saved me from a trial and error cycle. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for writing this up. This has made the entire process so much simpler and directly to the point. I really wish you could attached this to every bottle of steroids bought. But now for my questions..
Is there anyway that you can just inject one time instead of multiple times for the day? Like can you just add your Test with your HCG with what ever liquids that you are running?
And I have always heard that test reduces body fat not by much but that it does so if you run a straight test cycle will that help reduce a little body fat (meaning can I start my cycle at 18-20% body fat)? Thank you again this is some excellent work here.

No. 18 to 20 % is too high in my opinion, and that is a range, not an accurate number. Do not count on testosterone as a fat loss agent, it absolutely does NOT shed fat.

There's no need to inject multiples times daily. hCG and testosterone can be injected together.

[Little ant]

Yeah I thought it was bull about test making you loose fat. But anyway thank you so very much for your input. It is good to know that a beginner has some place they can ask a question and get an answer. Once again excellent work.

[bhmyers1968]

Outstanding information. I'm new to the forum and this is a great place to start.

Thank you

[IronBudda]

Not allowing my actual post.

What do you suggest for those who can not source hCG .


Have a source for everything else but can not get that.

Have looked for years.


38 years
176lb
14% and bulking
Looking to gain 5-10lb of LBM over the next few years.

Otherwise following your structure to a tea.

[austinite]

hCG is easy to find. Easier than steroids . Sorry you can't find it but you may just be looking in all the wrong places. I don't recommend cycling without hCG.

[waleed gouda]

Thanks for the great informative post, one last question, what is these steroid substitutes really do? Ant can it bee cycled with less risk and concerns, and what is the results I should expect in a % to real steroids ?

[austinite]

Thanks for the great informative post, one last question, what is these steroid substitutes really do? Ant can it bee cycled with less risk and concerns, and what is the results I should expect in a % to real steroids?

not sure what you're referencing. Please start a new thread if this is not about a first cycle with steroids .

[IronBudda]

hCG is easy to find. Easier than steroids. Sorry you can't find it but you may just be looking in all the wrong places. I don't recommend cycling without hCG.

I can't source it. Can't just order online with Aussie customs. I don't have many paces to look.


So you would just not cycle?



Great post btw and thanks for responding. I had planned to run exactly as planned, although decided to run an AI on cycle instead of waiting and only using when responding to sides.

[austinite]

I can't source it. Can't just order online with Aussie customs. I don't have many paces to look.


So you would just not cycle?



Great post btw and thanks for responding. I had planned to run exactly as planned, although decided to run an AI on cycle instead of waiting and only using when responding to sides.

Correct. Me personally, I would never cycle without it. So I recommend the same for everyone else as I would for myself.

Anyone on earth, ANYONE that can get steroids , can get hCG , doesnt matter what country you're in. We have a tremendous amount of Aussie members who have incredibly easy access to hCG.

[IronBudda]

My experience is that most people get ripped off here with poor grade gear.

Too many cowboys. Back door deals in dodgy gyms.

Fools and there money.

[David LoPan]

My experience is that most people get ripped off here with poor grade gear.

Too many cowboys. Back door deals in dodgy gyms.

Fools and there money.

I get mine from a pharmacy

[IronBudda]

I get mine from a pharmacy

In Australia?

So prescription?

[austinite]

Back on topic. Please use a new thread to discuss.

[Allegatormap]

I am new to this site and aas in general this is exactly what im looking for simple and detailed. I been lifting for ten+ years diet is in order i am going to spend next month reading taking notes and just absorbing as much info as possible before I start first cycle. thank-you for the info

[Unknownn]

This the best thread I've read on this topic

[Unknownn]

Can you please explain how I can make 250 IU Doses of hcg out of a 5000 IU Ampule?

[numbere]

5000IU/2ml = 2500 2500/100 = 25 250/25 = 10units or 0.1ml
5000IU/3ml = ~1666.67 1666.67/100 = ~16.7 250/16.67 = 15units or 0.15ml
5000IU/4ml = 1250 1250/100 = 12.5 250/12.5 = 20 units or 0.2ml
5000IU/5ml = 1000 1000/100 = 10 250/10 = 25units or 0.25ml

Do you see a trend developing? For 5000IU every 1.0ml increase of diluent to 2ml the result increases by 5units on a slin pin or 0.05ml.

[TrevHoff]

5000IU/2ml = 2500 2500/100 = 25 250/25 = 10units or 0.1ml
5000IU/3ml = ~1666.67 1666.67/100 = ~16.7 250/16.67 = 15units or 0.15ml
5000IU/4ml = 1250 1250/100 = 12.5 250/12.5 = 20 units or 0.2ml
5000IU/5ml = 1000 1000/100 = 10 250/10 = 25units or 0.25ml

Do you see a trend developing? For 5000IU every 1.0ml increase of diluent to 2ml the result increases by 5units on a slin pin or 0.05ml.

Hell of an explanation for sure. Betting this explanation confused the sh!t out of him... WAY too complicated. Confirm if that works for you? If not I can probably help put in layman's terms.

[austinite]

This is the wrong thread for hCG mixing. Please use the hCG thread below and check the segment about how to mix/math...

HCG: Why you should use it on-cycle only & how to prepare your hCG for injections

[Unknownn]

Got it. 5ml is the easiest route. Cheers

[Unknownn]

My experience is that most people get ripped off here with poor grade gear.

Too many cowboys. Back door deals in dodgy gyms.

Fools and there money.

If you're going to call people fools. Please at least use the right variation of "their" to avoid looking foolish yourself

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Great thread ! Wish I had read it 34 years ago . . . . . lol but I actually love TRT at 54 my endo is weird 60 mg of Test every 3.5 day and hcg eod and 50 mg of Deca eow Adex .25 1 x a week and life is great ! Great buch of smart young men ! OH AND MAN DOES TREN ROCK @ 200 MG OVER ABOUT 4 WEEKS EVERY 12 WEEKS

[OmBal]

Wish i had come to this forum first - Articles by Austinite are a must read

[Laneo2007]

I should have had to pay for that. Super good info.

[xjbone]

Incredible information., thank you!!!
I'll be reading this one over and over...

[RealQuick]

Thank you for this great thread it helped me understand alot about cycling...

I have been training martial artist for 15years and compete alot... I have a solid foundation... I started lifting 1year ago and noticed a very good results I guess it because of my martial artist training...

Im 26 years old
86kg
176cm
12% bf

I have done all the blood test that u mentioned here... I need assistance

Now whats after the blood work ? What should i do with the blood work results?

my blood work attached

[austinite]

^ Save your blood work so that you can compare it to your mid and post cycle results.

If these are your pre-cycle results (baseline), they are kind of in the gutter for your age.

[kelkel]

^ Save your blood work so that you can compare it to your mid and post cycle results.

If these are your pre-cycle results (baseline), they are kind of in the gutter for your age.

Agree ^^^. I'd dig deeper and find the cause.

[RealQuick]

^ Save your blood work so that you can compare it to your mid and post cycle results.

If these are your pre-cycle results (baseline), they are kind of in the gutter for your age.

Im sorry my english not very well, I didnt get what you mean by the gutter... Do you mean my testosterone level are low for my age? If yes... why you think is that?

I have never used any steriods before and my sex drive is crazy...

Please explain more to me

Thanks

[austinite]

Im sorry my english not very well, I didnt get what you mean by the gutter... Do you mean my testosterone level are low for my age? If yes... why you think is that?

I have never used any steriods before and my sex drive is crazy...

Please explain more to me

Thanks

No idea why. Have you had any testicular or head trauma? If not, have a doctor find out why.

[whodeysay]

Awesome write up as I've learned a lot from this one post.

Quick question,
27 years old
5'6
162lbs 14% BF
Lifting 3 years
This is my first cycle.

Planning on running Sustanon 350. Would I be alright to dose it every 3.5 days at 175mg per pin or 350mg a week. As its my first cycle, I want to take things slow and see how I feel introducing anabolics. Will I get benefits at 350mg a week or should I do a 8 week cycle at 400-500 mg a week?
Planning on running Liquidex at .25mg eod
I know you are a firm believer of HCG and I've read the sticky on it but I've heard you WILL survive without it. It really just helps recover more quickly then you would if you did not use it.

For PCT,
Nolva and Clomid dosed as you stated in this article.

Thanks in advance Austinite

[austinite]

Awesome write up as I've learned a lot from this one post.

Quick question,
27 years old
5'6
162lbs 14% BF
Lifting 3 years
This is my first cycle.

Planning on running Sustanon 350. Would I be alright to dose it every 3.5 days at 175mg per pin or 350mg a week. As its my first cycle, I want to take things slow and see how I feel introducing anabolics. Will I get benefits at 350mg a week or should I do a 8 week cycle at 400-500 mg a week?
Planning on running Liquidex at .25mg eod
I know you are a firm believer of HCG and I've read the sticky on it but I've heard you WILL survive without it. It really just helps recover more quickly then you would if you did not use it.

For PCT,
Nolva and Clomid dosed as you stated in this article.

Thanks in advance Austinite

350 is weak. I wouldnt run it that low, especially if you're using UGL gear.

I would never, in a million years, cycle without hCG. You are 100% wrong in your assumption that ALL it does is help recover quickly. 100% wrong. (You would know this if you actually read the hCG article)

Best of luck.

[bemch1988]

Thank you very much for taking the time to write this post. I am looking into doing a cycle within the next year or so when I have a really good base line to build on.