My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle

[BeingSwole]

Quick question, if Test shuts you down what's the purpose of HCG , which is suppose to reverse the shut down. Wouldn't those two cancel out? IF not would HCG trump the shut down from test injections?

[austinite]

Quick question, if Test shuts you down what's the purpose of HCG, which is suppose to reverse the shut down. Wouldn't those two cancel out? IF not would HCG trump the shut down from test injections?

HCG: Why you should use it on-cycle only & how to prepare your hCG for injections

[Hayder H]

Hi I'm M 25 age 71 kg weigh 1.87 cm tall , single, normal diet
I've been working out more than half two years and for the last two months i started feel my body has no energy with exhaust and tried while working out, some friends advised me to do testo test, I've done it and these are the results below :

testosterone 3.2 pg/ml normal value(2.5-10)
FSH 21 mIU/ml normal value(1-14)
LH 16 mIU/ml normal value (0.7-7.4)
TSH 0.7 u/l(0.5-5.5)
T3 2.3 n.mol/l(1.2-2.85)
T4 135 n.mol/l(54-152)

Is that testo ratio causes the exhaust and tried ? and does it has a relation with my beard hair because its not completed and there is an empty spot between beard and chin hair...I'm thinking of 500 mg/wk test E .

What do u suggest for me to do plz ?

[austinite]

Please start a new thread. ^

[Mamba1]

great information.

[khan_gaokar]

It is a supervalue info given by you Austin! i like reading almost everything that you write..
I am new here...and with a lot of curiosity..even i wanna get started with the beginner cycle as suggested by you but the only problem is i am having a kidney stone (3 mm a year back). never bothered to see it growing inside me yet! however i know it can cause issues further if i ignore it....still if you can throw some light on how to manage this issue while on my beginner cycle....would really help me progress towards my goal. Please suggest..

[Amymatt26]

Love your work austinite it has helped me through my first cycle. I had to cut my intended 12 week cycle short due to having to go overseas unexpectedly for work for 2 weeks. Would you suggest using the same pct that you listed on the first page that was recommended for the 12 week cycle even tho I only went for 8 weeks. I was due to start my pct almost a week ago now but am really unsure weather to do the exact same as I was originally going to do or change it. And help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks

[austinite]

8 weeks is complete shut down. I would recommend a full PCT as described.

[Amymatt26]

Thank you will start tonight then is 3 weeks of pct ok as I have to go away again in 3 weeks time and not sure if I can take nolva and clomid overseas. Don't want to be banged up abroad lol

[mark g 3902]

Thank you very much great knowledge for me as a beginner very interesting and many thanks agai !!!

[lightitup]

i have been reading a lot of forums and really haven't joined any, but I joined to tell you this was very good info i found my self doing home work based of what you put up on here ......thanks for the info

[austinite]

i have been reading a lot of forums and really haven't joined any, but I joined to tell you this was very good info i found my self doing home work based of what you put up on here ......thanks for the info

Good to have you on board.

[gary07]

HEY TO ALL....
I am 30 year old fit gym lover married guy and try for family planning but i am on steroid like test enan and dbol 10 week cycle.so my question is that any harm or effect for my wife or my upcoming baby when my wife going pregnant?

[dernico]

Hello i have been training for last 2 years
my personal trainer told suggest me to start a cycle
and my cycle consist of
TEST prop
WINN
TREN
clen
t3
but i think this is too much for a first cycle
any advice ?
and sorry i dont know the dosage yet
thanks in advance

[austinite]

^ Please start a new thread. I would personally refrain from ever speaking to this 'trainer' again as he is doing you a disservice.

[Cbill15]

Thanks austin it's for some great info. I have found this to be the best information I have read so far. Thank u!

[gainz4dayz17]

Is it likely to maintain gains made during first cycle of test only vs test + other compounds once coming off?

[SOL!D5NAK3]

i did read the thread again and what was the BF% you meant for weight to height ratio?
for example you said a 5'7 guy can be 175 pounds. how about a guy who is 5'7 and 165 with lower than 10% bf?

[EquilibriumZ]

You wrote
- Week 1 to 12: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
- Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)

I m abit confused. So do you take the AI during pct or not?

[austinite]

PCT with test E doesnt start until 2 weeks after your last injection, so that is not during PCT, but between your lat injection and PCT.

[thunderstruck90]

Starting my first cycle as you have described, looking forward to the results. What do you feel about Cardio on cycle?

[Inked medic1]

Thanks for the info. I'm still in the research phase of a steroid cycle. Been training for twenty years or so years. Taking hgh at mo. Only three weeks in but not sure I'm gonna stick with it. For the money not sure it's worth it.

Thanks again. Great thread.

Ink.

[austinite]

Starting my first cycle as you have described, looking forward to the results. What do you feel about Cardio on cycle?

Cardio is good anytime.

[kelkel]

Cardio is good anytime.

The hell you say.....

[Bodacious]

Cardio is good anytime.

Cardio is for runners only...Austinite thought you knew that.

[Chicagotarsier]

Unless you got the cash to give blood every 4 weeks or so I do not know how any AAS user handles the cardio for the longer cycles. Once my HCT hits 48 it gets hard to do 10 flights of stairs without panting like a pig. 50+ and I am good for walking at fast pace only. 42 and I can do a 5K without breaking a sweat.
I do not know how bigger guys like Marcus who have a ton of muscle handle cardio at all.

Cardio is for runners only...Austinite thought you knew that.

[ojm3]

Another great post!

[siamakdieded]

Hello austinite

I followed your cycle and gained 20 pounds. the only change is i want to now start prop at 175mg eod for 7 weeks, do you think i should change the hcg or pct protocol?

Thankyou

[austinite]

Hello austinite I followed your cycle and gained 20 pounds. the only change is i want to now start prop at 175mg eod for 7 weeks, do you think i should change the hcg or pct protocol? Thankyou

not sure how you are following protocol if you're adding another 7 weeks. You might want to start a new thread. But generally hcg dose is the same.

[siamakdieded]

not sure how you are following protocol if you're adding another 7 weeks. You might want to start a new thread. But generally hcg dose is the same.

Sorry i meant doing 7 weeks of prop instead of 12 weeks of test E. So 175mg eod requires 250ui hcg ? and what about pct?

[blackbird90210]

Simple but complex. As a newbie, I need a dictionary & a map regarding some of this info.

[austinite]

Simple but complex. As a newbie, I need a dictionary & a map regarding some of this info.

Sorry to hear that. It was an attempt to make things much easier by breaking down each step.

[RewardingLabor]

What do you say to the people who say that an 8 week cycle is more optimal than a 12 week cycle?

oh and btw great read. thanks.

[morteza]

I am a new member and this article was so useful for me. I am 24 years old (5'10-165Ib) i am training for 2.5 years and i don't use any steroid before, i am getting ready for a bodybuilding competition and i am gonna gain more muscle so i decide to use steroid. I want to know your opinion about using Primobolan with Oxandrolone or Boldenone with Stanozolol for my firs cycle?

[jolter604]

i always find myself here again.....

[kelkel]

What do you say to the people who say that an 8 week cycle is more optimal than a 12 week cycle?

oh and btw great read. thanks.

She'd say it's just fine, if it were a short ester cycle......

[austinite]

What do you say to the people who say that an 8 week cycle is more optimal than a 12 week cycle?

oh and btw great read. thanks.

it's just fine, if it were a short ester cycle......

[brandon1411]

The best info ever,

[kelkel]

it's just fine, if it were a short ester cycle......

Just so damn cute.

[poizonn]

Introduction


Here is a perfect beginner cycle layout:

- Week 1 to 12: Testosterone enanthate @ 250 mg every 3.5 days (500mg/week total)
- Week 1 to 12: hCG @ 250 iu every 3.5 days (500 iu/week total)
- Week 1 to 14: Arimidex @ 0.25mg every other day (From day 2 up until PCT starts)


~ Austinite

Stats:
- 26yo
- 6'0
- 185lbs
- Around 15%bf

Lifting since I was 17 but training seriously, consistently, year round and eating carefully for a little over 2 years.


First of all thank you for everything, I've read this some months ago and I'm still cutting down bf before doing my first cycle.

As I read more and try and prepare myself knowledge wise for my first cycle I find myself a bit confused, as there are many many different opinions and suggestions on how to do certain things.

Having in mind you are one of the most knowledgeable fellas I've come across, I would really like to know what your thoughts on the following are:

1. Some people say it is not necessary to split the 500mg test-e dose in 2 days, they say there is no difference from just pinning 500mg all at once each week, what are your thoughts on this?

2. Same goes for HCG, some people are also saying there is no difference and that just pinning 500iu all at once is the same?

3.I've also come across people saying mixing both compounds in one pin a week? They say since one is oil based and the other is water based they won't mix anyway so they say it is also possible to pin both 500mg test-e and 500iu hcg at once, allowing the cycle to be 1 pin a week. What are your thoughts on this?


Although I've never self injected before, I'm not concerned about injecting several times a week, I know it's one of those things you eventually get used to and one's dreams and desires overcome the fear of self-pinning.

However, thinking about simplifying the whole cycle since there will be many many other things to pay attention to like diet, exercise, and adjusting it all to a working schedule, what are your thoughts on all this? would you still recommend splitting the doses? Separate pins/compounds? why?


Thanks for your time and sharing your knowledge.