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    Thanks Austinite. I respect the time you put in to help others. When the time is right, I'll pay it forward.

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    I am currently receiving free TRT at the Department of Veteran Affairs Hospital as a benefit of being a compensated veteran. Problem is that they are frugal with my dosage and prefer to keep me in the lower half of the range. Furthermore, they don't believe in the need for HCG or Anastrozole. Prior to receiving my care at the VA, I received my TRT from increasemyt dot com and valued the HCG and Anastrozole.

    While my treatment at the VA is free, I am concerned that it is hardly ideal. I have read many forums on the importance of HCG to preserve my testes size as well as adding test to my system. Furthermore, an anti e is valuable for many reasons.

    I am looking at transferring my care to someplace like lowtestosterone dot com as result of this despite the added costs.

    I am hoping to start my second cycle soon too!

    225, 6', 16% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tduff311 View Post
    I am currently receiving free TRT at the Department of Veteran Affairs Hospital as a benefit of being a compensated veteran. Problem is that they are frugal with my dosage and prefer to keep me in the lower half of the range. Furthermore, they don't believe in the need for HCG or Anastrozole. Prior to receiving my care at the VA, I received my TRT from increasemyt dot com and valued the HCG and Anastrozole.

    While my treatment at the VA is free, I am concerned that it is hardly ideal. I have read many forums on the importance of HCG to preserve my testes size as well as adding test to my system. Furthermore, an anti e is valuable for many reasons.

    I am looking at transferring my care to someplace like lowtestosterone dot com as result of this despite the added costs.

    I am hoping to start my second cycle soon too!

    225, 6', 16% bf, bench 320, squat 405, dead 465.

    Hello.. i have read some of your comments good read .. i am new here and am trying to post my own post on cycles and what products work well with others and what ones don't. . ... I am 45 male 6 f 205lb slim build .. hard to put on mass but very fast matable.. i am currently take t400 stacked with deca 2cc every 3days and 3ui of hgh per day.. what i am wanting to know is what are good add on to take will on a cycle and how long i should cycle for and also what are reliable post and per cycle products.. I have avatar on order but at my age i would just like go to straight hgh.. thank you for any comments

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    Everyone says you must start with a good "core" before starting anabolic steroids . Can someone explain or direct me to what a good "core" is. I haven't exercised since High School weights and Football.

    I am a n00bs n00b sitting here un-exercised in 18yrs. I almost bought anabolic steroids and started working out until I read the OP's thread(s). Just need some guidance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dilsnik View Post
    Everyone says you must start with a good "core" before starting anabolic steroids . Can someone explain or direct me to what a good "core" is. I haven't exercised since High School weights and Football.

    I am a n00bs n00b sitting here un-exercised in 18yrs. I almost bought anabolic steroids and started working out until I read the OP's thread(s). Just need some guidance.
    All the info you need is in this thread. I would suggest going to the beginning and reading what Austinite has written. I have no doubt he answers this question.

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    And very simply, I would say depending on your age, you have a ton of natural genetic potential you can work with before you would want to gear up. Dial in your training and diet and get some solid gains first.

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    Avi3510 Thank you for responding.

    I guess my question is, what is considered a good core? Please excuse my ignorance but what does that mean? I do not want to get too aggressive before I am ready and end up injuring myself. I have already started a diet based on muscle fitness. I want to build stamina and bulk quickly, but when I come here it says (of course I am paraphrasing here) "Calm down and exercise first before starting a cycle." So I might be putting the cart before the horse, but where do I need to be to place the horse, first?

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    Did you read the beginning of this thread? The original post. He lays out exactly what it means to have a good base to build on. I believe that is what you are referring to by core.

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    Hey Austinite

    Im new to the forum and read this a week or two ago and have some questions that I would really like some advice on, it would be much appreciated. I sent you a friend request as I dont know how to contact you directly. Thanks so much in advance

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    Hey guys, newbie here. How much hcg should I be taking and should I take during cycle or post? About to start my cycle when test cypionate arrives in mail.

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    Did you read the thread, pittfan?
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    I took 30mg of D bol yesterday and 20mg today, and would like to stop, need guidance

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    Did you read the thread, pittfan?
    Hi, I decided that I am not ready for steroids right now, I took 30mg of D bol yesterday and 20mg today, and I will not take any tomorrow, this is my first cycle and my friend who was guiding me has vanished, I would like to stop properly, I have tamoxabolic, and arimibolic, how much if any do I take and for how long. this was a mistake, thanks for any advice

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    I only managed to see this now, dam Im an idiot haha I've made one or two posts desperately asking for some advice and mainly asking for "Austinite", you must be a god of some sort, this info is bloody amazing. I have a few questions. I will be starting my first cycle this week. My friend is sorting me out with my gear and writing me a training program and basically everything to follow to have a successful cycle. This is what my cycle will consist of:

    8 week, starting with 2ml prop, 1ml tren , 1ml win per week and then upping dose
    Also Arimidex for my AI

    Also I have had pubertal gyno in my left breast since 17/18 (Im now 22 going on 23).
    Do I have to be worried about anything? Or will this have an affect on me when cycling?

    I read in one of your write ups that Raloxifene can be used in monitored dosages to help reverse gyno? Could I use this on my cycle? If you can give me any tips or advice it would mean a lot.

    Cant thank you enough about all this information, I had no clue about.

    Thanks in advance, you are the best!

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    ^ Jumanji, I am not an advocate of using Tren for a 1st cycle. Please pay close attention to segment # 6 in this article. We have many users that can help you, but you'll need to start a new thread. I don't give advice on Trenbolone usage. Other members are better suited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    ^ Jumanji, I am not an advocate of using Tren for a 1st cycle. Please pay close attention to segment # 6 in this article. We have many users that can help you, but you'll need to start a new thread. I don't give advice on Trenbolone usage. Other members are better suited.
    Thanks for the reply Austinite, and no problem I made a post this morning for some advice. On the other hand would you recommend Raloxifene for my pre-existing gyno? Could I use this on cycle?

    Thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Did you read the thread, pittfan?
    I don't know how. This app is complicated.

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    Pittman, go back to page one of this thread. All the info is at the beginning. One tip, read the whole thing.

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    Yes I read your thread but what do I say to my doctor about getting him to give me a prescription for the steroids ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RickyReed View Post
    Yes I read your thread but what do I say to my doctor about getting him to give me a prescription for the steroids?
    Why would you do that? If you don't have low T you wont get it.
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    Hello all and Ty for all the info to this point(been trolling for months). 38, 5'8", 191, working out off and on about 20+yrs, lifting steady the last 4 and have used 3 pro hormone cycles. Good work ethic and diet is pretty tight. 12-15%bf goin for 10% or less before I start my first cycle which leads me to the reason for this post.
    Ordered the Novice Cycle 1 from this site:
    12 weeks Test e-500mg per week (250 every third day)
    First 6 weeks dianabol 25mg ed (split am/pm)
    40/40/20 nolvadex weeks 15-17
    Now thinkin I need to order hcg and what "must have" sups everbody suggests. Any and all insight, hindsight, foresight, and hell even mystical premonitions are welcome. Don't want to waste any time or muscle on this cycle. Really dont wanna screw myself up either so turning this over to the pros. I realize many of you have prob read this nearly exact post a hundred times so I thank you in advance for all your help.
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    ^ Please start a new thread. This thread is dedicated to first cycles that follow the protocol outlined in the article.
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    Just saw cost discussion not allowed. Edited post
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    Following a cycle, wait period and then PCT, would it be recommended to start another cycle immediately afterwards to maintain gains? Hypothetically, if one were to go on vacation following PCT and stayed off cycle would their be negative effects? Thanks!

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    Time on Cycle + wait time for pct + PCT time = TIME OFF.
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    This all seems a bit over whelming and there seems know why to simplify it . I'm 45 years old is there a simple way to this or because I am the age I am do I have to follow this to the T ? It can all become a bit confusing . I've been training since 26 4 to 5 times a week . I'm at the age where I see know results so I'm researching but my head is spinning from all the info lol

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    agreed, now everyone should have to read this before posting!

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    Good deal just need to get going
    Great info

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    one of the most helpful post for me here. definitely answered many of my questions! thanks austinite!

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    You are exactly right you should plan out what every move you plan on doing for your first cycle and keep to it! It is very hard to stay focused but if you have the determination you can do it and it will make you feel something that you never felt before, the fact that you are a winner to yourself and just keep in mind what your goals are and you can make it every workout.

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    Hey I just read this and seems like you know a lot, I have a couple questions I hope you can help with

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    This was very helpful. Thank you

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    Wow with all that info I may wanna do any gear at all, it's like if I don't get all these steps correct I will be out of luck

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    Thank you for the great information! Answered a lot of questions!

    With the recommended 1st cycle, I'm assuming it is geared towards the guys. I have been making my way through the information slowly so I apologise if it is posted elsewhere but what about a recommended 1st cycle for a female looking purely for strength gains? I have seen a lot of posts for Var and think that is the way to go for now, but I saw the warning about avoiding orals as a first cycle?

    I will keep reading, there is some great info for sure! Again, sorry if the info is elsewhere, appreciate the help.

    I have requested to get access to the females only area but not sure how long that takes or how I will know when I do have access to it lol

    Squat or die - aiming for 500lb!

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    Austinite, do you recommend cycle time + pct = Time off for every cycle or only for someones first time? Would it depend on goals? I would say I'm doing it for the love of bodybuilding with the possibility of competing in some small local competitions, but mostly just because I want more. So I'm not going for my pro card or anything. But who knows, maybe someday.

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    Thanks for
    Posting, wish I could have read that a month ago before I started researching. It would have saved me a lot of time. Was great to read about all other factors, not just the gear. After reading it sounds like I should train for another 4-5 months to complete a full year of rigorous training ( been lifting on and off for years ) and clean eating, supplements etc...
    I'm definitely a skeptic because there are soany people on the Internet sharing opinions. It seems you're sincere and educated on all aspects of the subject and that you all really care about your health. I want to be lifting for a long time so health is very important to me. So thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avi3510 View Post
    Austinite, do you recommend cycle time + pct = Time off for every cycle or only for someones first time? Would it depend on goals? I would say I'm doing it for the love of bodybuilding with the possibility of competing in some small local competitions, but mostly just because I want more. So I'm not going for my pro card or anything. But who knows, maybe someday.
    Time on + wait time for pct + pct time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liftinlarge View Post
    Thank you for the great information! Answered a lot of questions!

    With the recommended 1st cycle, I'm assuming it is geared towards the guys. I have been making my way through the information slowly so I apologise if it is posted elsewhere but what about a recommended 1st cycle for a female looking purely for strength gains? I have seen a lot of posts for Var and think that is the way to go for now, but I saw the warning about avoiding orals as a first cycle?

    I will keep reading, there is some great info for sure! Again, sorry if the info is elsewhere, appreciate the help.

    I have requested to get access to the females only area but not sure how long that takes or how I will know when I do have access to it lol

    Squat or die - aiming for 500lb!
    Var only is fine for females.
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