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    Quote Originally Posted by blakegains View Post
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    Posting, wish I could have read that a month ago before I started researching. It would have saved me a lot of time. Was great to read about all other factors, not just the gear. After reading it sounds like I should train for another 4-5 months to complete a full year of rigorous training ( been lifting on and off for years ) and clean eating, supplements etc...
    I'm definitely a skeptic because there are soany people on the Internet sharing opinions. It seems you're sincere and educated on all aspects of the subject and that you all really care about your health. I want to be lifting for a long time so health is very important to me. So thanks again
    I am certainly an advocate for men and women's health. Good call on waiting until you have more training experience. Best of luck to you.

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    This is an incredible source of information. Thank you for posting this.

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    Great read I appreciate you laying out all that information in such an easy way to understand. Thanks.

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    Do you need to take the arimidex with a fat?

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    awesome sticky! well done

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    Week 1 to 14:arimidex doses.

    Hi ,just a quick question about the Arimidex doses on this cycle.Is it correct that they are made in 1mg tablet form( Arimidex (Anastrozole).does that mean that a quarter of a tablet should be taken every 2 days example below
    quarter every 2 days after 8 days 1 whole tablet should have been used.
    Week 1 to 14: on a test e cycle would mean that in total, twelve and a quarter tablets would be used if they are 1mg each.

    Is this right /correct
    or have I lost the plot
    thanks

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    Thank you for such a detailed first time. I just had a couple of questions. Will two vails=10ml be enough for a 12 week cycle? Second question is how many syringes, and needles would I need for that cycle. I tried to add it up but got confused. thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseballer13 View Post
    Thank you for such a detailed first time. I just had a couple of questions. Will two vails=10ml be enough for a 12 week cycle? Second question is how many syringes, and needles would I need for that cycle. I tried to add it up but got confused. thank you
    10ml means nothing without knowing the concentration.

    I don't usually help with math but...

    a 12 week cycle @ 500mg a week = a total of 6000mg that you'll need for your cycle. If you buy the common 250mg per ML vials, they contain 2500 mg (250mg x 10). So 2 vials would be 5000 mg total. Not enough for one cycle. You'll need a 3rd vial and you will have some left over.

    You're injecting twice weekly for 12 weeks. That's 24 injections total. So you'll need 24 syringes. I would buy more than that just in case...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stu555 View Post
    Hi ,just a quick question about the Arimidex doses on this cycle.Is it correct that they are made in 1mg tablet form( Arimidex (Anastrozole).does that mean that a quarter of a tablet should be taken every 2 days example below
    quarter every 2 days after 8 days 1 whole tablet should have been used.
    Week 1 to 14: on a test e cycle would mean that in total, twelve and a quarter tablets would be used if they are 1mg each.

    Is this right /correct
    or have I lost the plot
    thanks
    Yes, adex pharm comes in 1mg tabs. Just take half every third day if you can't cut it in quarters. Otherwise, every other day. So yeah, 8 days for a mg.

    Not doing any more math today... lol.

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    if one is considering this cycle, would it may be more optimal to up the dose to 600 mg per week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvg17 View Post
    if one is considering this cycle, would it may be more optimal to up the dose to 600 mg per week?
    No, not at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    No, not at all.
    ok thx thats good to know, i dont want to get you mad, but how bout dbol to "kickstart"? not necessary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvg17 View Post
    ok thx thats good to know, i dont want to get you mad, but how bout dbol to "kickstart"? not necessary?
    LOL. Im not mad, but it's not related to this thread. you may want to start a new thread.
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    Would it be smart to take some anti estrogen during the cycle. I know the thread said if your scared about it use it, I was just wondering if a lot of people would use it in their first cycle.

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    Unbelievable - I have been immersed in this content since signing up and I have to say I am thoroughly impressed and grateful. I will be busy learning as much as possible . . .

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    Thanks for this thread austinite. Kept me from making some crap decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baseballer13 View Post
    Would it be smart to take some anti estrogen during the cycle. I know the thread said if your scared about it use it, I was just wondering if a lot of people would use it in their first cycle.
    Baseballer, I would suggest reading the beginning of this thread over again, or maybe for the first time, because he answers everything you could possibly ask.

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    This post has been extremely informative, gold mine of information. The blood work schedule is something I haven't been exposed to before. I'll be sure to also use the links provided. Thanks!

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    Wow that is a ton of good information! Very good write up, I'm sure I'll come back to read it a few more times. Thank you for writing this.

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    Solid information. I'm going to get to work on my blood testing. Cheers & thanks!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 40+ReadyToGetStrong View Post
    Solid information. I'm going to get to work on my blood testing. Cheers & thanks!!!!
    I am Moosse nice to meet you and I have ,well I live in Nashville TN and have found a low test clinic that I am going to go to and the best thing is you have to pay a up front fee , yet after that they bill my insurance and the only thing I have to pay is the 20% of the amount which will only be 15.00 for the treatment. So I am very excited and that way I would not have to do anything wrong, a doctor will provide me with the testosterone shots every two weeks and will help me out as far as my energy and my strength in the gym and my sex life , so y'all wish me the best for my visit on the sixteenth of April. Moosse

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    Hey Austinite,

    I just wanted to make sure I got this down to a T, as I am starting Monday. See below. Let me know if you see any issues.

    Week 1: Test (500mg/week)/Clen (20mcg-120mcg)
    Week 2: Test (500mg/week)/Clen (20mcg-120mcg)
    Week 3: Test (500mg/week)
    Week 4: Test (500mg/week)
    Week 5: Test (500mg/week)/Clen (20mcg-120mcg)
    Week 6: Test (500mg/week)/Clen (20mcg-120mcg)/Winny 50mg
    Week 7: Test (500mg/week)/Winny 50mg
    Week 8: Test (500mg/week)/Winny 50mg
    Week 9: Test (500mg/week)/Clen (20mcg-120mcg)/Winny 50mg
    Week 10: Test (500mg/week)/Clen (20mcg-120mcg)/Winny 50mg
    Week 11: Nothing except Arimidex
    Week 12: Nothing except Arimidex
    Week 13: PCT+ Clen (20mcg-120mcg)
    Week 14: PCT + Clen (20mcg-120mcg)
    Week 15: PCT
    Week 16: PCT
    Test = 3.5 days - 250mg
    Winny = ED
    Clen = ED

    AI: Liquid Arimidex -.25mg; every other day starting on Day 2. -Ends when PCT starts
    hCG : 250iU every 3.5 days (same day as test shot)

    PCT: Liquid Clomid - 75/50/50/50mg (daily)
    Liquid Tamox - 40/20/20/20mg (daily)

    Daily: NAC 600mg of NAC - until end of week 16
    Taurine (3-5mg) - when using clen


    How do I know if I need to increase Arimidex?
    Is it ok to take hcg same day as test shot?
    You recommend any additional supplement for the winny joint issue?
    Last edited by thrillaz; 04-02-2015 at 07:58 PM.

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    Well... GREAT INFORMATION! Wish I would've read this prior to being 4 weeks into this... Now I've got a list of things I need to do & purchase!

    Thank you for sound advice. The people I know that I've taken advice from obviously do not know the proper way to use gear... nor safely :/

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    First post i found this very helpful but how do i know what to take for a first time like do i start with win 50 or anabol 25 if i want to get cut and not to much bulk gain

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    Thank you for all the info! Just to clarify, because I am 6'2", 175lbs, I should put off my first cycle until I gain at least 10lbs? Even if I am at a low percent body fat? Thanks again!

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    ^ That's what I would recommend.
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    austinite, are you taking clients? or can you refer my friend to someone you trust in either portland oregon, or los vegas? My friend in his mid 40's got blown off by his doc when asking about HRT.. Sorry to post this question here..

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    Anavar questions

    hello, i need help!! Its my first time taking steroids , i am a female 29 years old i weight 134 pounds and my body fat is 22% i want to use anavar ( 5 gr daily) to lose body fat, not to gain weight, i want to know if anavar is safe and if i am going to have bad effects, also i dont want to build a lot of muscle , just to look fit and removed body fat! Please if some women has taken it respond

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    Hi everyone,

    Looking to start my first cycle. 5'8 and 150lb. I know the risks and have done a ton of research. Would this be a good first cycle to see how my body will react?
    Test e (500mg/week)
    HCG (500iu/week)
    Arimidex (1mg-week plus 2 weeks after cycle)
    I am an athlete looking to gain more power and muscle while not killing my lungs. Any comments and suggestions would be greatly appreciated since it is my first cycle. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigT37
    Hi everyone, Looking to start my first cycle. 5'8 and 150lb. I know the risks and have done a ton of research. Would this be a good first cycle to see how my body will react? Test e (500mg/week) HCG (500iu/week) Arimidex (1mg-week plus 2 weeks after cycle) I am an athlete looking to gain more power and muscle while not killing my lungs. Any comments and suggestions would be greatly appreciated since it is my first cycle. Thanks!
    Too light, work on nutrition and training first. You need a proper base. Get to 170 atleast. How old are you?

    Edit: you are 18, way too young to cycle. You havent researched enough cause if you did, you'd know that cycling at 18 is retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigT37 View Post
    Hi everyone,

    Looking to start my first cycle. 5'8 and 150lb. I know the risks and have done a ton of research. Would this be a good first cycle to see how my body will react?
    Test e (500mg/week)
    HCG (500iu/week)
    Arimidex (1mg-week plus 2 weeks after cycle)
    I am an athlete looking to gain more power and muscle while not killing my lungs. Any comments and suggestions would be greatly appreciated since it is my first cycle. Thanks!
    I would recommend that you do not touch anything at your age.
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    I have been following your first cycle using everything but hcg . It's been 3 weeks so far but I am not really seeing/feeling any different. I was using sus250 previously and I felt more strength and looked fuller.
    Both these products are prescription , do you still recommend using enanthate ?

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    Any feedback please !

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    Patience. It needs a little more time as it's a long ester, that's all. Just keep your training and nutrition on point and results will come.
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    Thanks for the feedback. I actually got a script for hcg after my first post and will start that this week.

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    WOW! So glad I found this site and especially this forum. So much great info that really just opened my mind. Im excited to do this the right way and make it worth my time and money WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT that was the big thing I got out of this is that I need to build my foundation just a bit more. Thank you for this... a great read for anyone who ever thinks about starting a cycle.

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    Hey great article hey I have question my 1st cycle I did prop 1ml eod then went to tripple stack ph super d.z 3 then a quad goin back to the juice now I hat tren e and prop coming a little worried I dnt no how much I should take thinkin 1ml prop eod nd 1ml of the tren once a week is that to little to much? Sorry 4askin 1st stack so in a new world kinda

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    Gaintrain, as I've seen others suggest before, it would probably be best to start a new thread. Austinite only wants to discuss questions related to people following his protocol on a first cycle. Good luck brother.

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    I think you are on the right track and will make outstanding progress so if I can help you just let me know

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    I think you are on the right track and are really looking great and working very hard to get the results you are looking for!

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