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    How do I know if my AI is working as intended?

    is 0.25 ED too much armidex from start? I just want to make sure I get enough AI

    Also.. do you have the link you gave where they sold liquid arimidex ?

    many thanks

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    Thanks for the response Austin..
    So I'm guessing that my cycle is ok considering it follows your protocol exactly... Just have to get my bf% down so I can get the ball rolling..
    couple more questions..
    During 1st cycle do you recommend eating at a surplus or maintenance? If you were to eat at a deficit while using test, would you still lose weight? I'm assuming that people wouldn't do this to begin with since the whole point is to try and build muscle..

    While using Test can a person eat at maintenance and still add muscle mass? Would they add muscle mass and lose BF?

    Thanks

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    Hey Chicagotarsier. Thank you for the information. I'm meeting with a TRT clinic on Tuesday so hopefully my test levels will increase so I can start my first cycle in the near future.

    Two questions I have. 1. Shouldn't knowing where to purchase good quality gear be a topic that is just as important as knowing how to train and diet?
    2. Is Austinite a male or female? I ask because I see him constantly being referred to as a he, but the pics he post show a very attractive woman!!

    Everyone keep training hard and have a good evening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRODIJ View Post
    How do I know if my AI is working as intended?

    is 0.25 ED too much armidex from start? I just want to make sure I get enough AI

    Also.. do you have the link you gave where they sold liquid arimidex ?

    many thanks
    Blood work as the article outlines. You can get it from ar-r .com, they are legit; I can confirm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Walkman13 View Post
    Thanks for the response Austin..
    So I'm guessing that my cycle is ok considering it follows your protocol exactly... Just have to get my bf% down so I can get the ball rolling..
    couple more questions..
    During 1st cycle do you recommend eating at a surplus or maintenance? If you were to eat at a deficit while using test, would you still lose weight? I'm assuming that people wouldn't do this to begin with since the whole point is to try and build muscle..

    While using Test can a person eat at maintenance and still add muscle mass? Would they add muscle mass and lose BF?

    Thanks
    If you drop your BF, your cycle is fine. Otherwise, no.

    Surplus if you want to gain, defect if you want to lose, exactly as it states in the article. Give the diet segment another read please.

    Yes, you can add muscle, but nothing to shake a stick at. You need food, and lots of it if you want to gain.
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    Austinite..

    last question. do you know the name of those examens in spanish?

    I cant figure them. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by PRODIJ View Post
    Austinite..

    last question. do you know the name of those examens in spanish?

    I cant figure them. lol
    No. Sorry. Try using an online translator.
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    Austine, this post was for real!!!! without a doubt,,,Im a newbie, and 41 yrs of age 6'1" 195 with 18% body fat....I gotta cut that down...I don't cycle never have but Im totally for it .I am noticing a fatigue and lack in my age , Im seeing the dr soon to check my blood and hopefully get on trt... I hope I can always contact you for advice...

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    King 06 the pic he's using is of Dana Linn Bailey. Ms. Physique Olympia

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    Pics don't do her justice either. I live in vegas and have gone to the Olympia expo 3 years in a row now. DLB is impressive in person. To say the least

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    Please stay on topic, folks.
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    OK, so we are back on naming those examens in Spanish?
    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Please stay on topic, folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Blood work you need (at minimum):

    1. Testosterone , Total
    2. Testosterone, Free
    3. Sensitive E2 Assay (Not basic estradiol, that's for women)
    4. CBC (Compete blood count)
    5. CMP (Comprehensive metabolic panel)
    6. Lipid Profile (post cycle is fine)
    7. LH and FSH
    Planning & paying for my blood work- trying to figure out what the best options to get everything I need.
    I'm leaning towards getting both female and male hormone panels but it seems like a waste because a bunch of the tests I'll be getting twice.

    Is there a better option than getting both of these?

    Also for the mid-cycle test I want to make sure I get the TT numbers that show what the actual number is when its out of range.
    There was a thread explaining what tests to get from what companies but I cannot find it for the life of me now.

    Much appreciated,
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    Great info so glad I found this fourm, so happy to be a new member. Thanks austin.

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    Had one question, I ordered Arimidex liquid from ar-r . So through out my cycle I will use about half the bottle, the rest of the bottle if I store it in room temperature does it expire or I can use it again in about 6 months?

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    Good evening everyone.

    I met with the Men's Medical Center today and they were willing to start the TRT today provided I paid $1400.00 bucks! They don't deal with insurance companies so they give you the billing information and it's up to the individual to submit it for reimbursement. I called my insurance provider to find a endocrinologist in network that would be covered. They provide me about fifty names, I made some calls and the information I was provided by ALL of the ones I called (21 so far) leads me to this question for you guys. ALL of their TRT use testosterone cypionate . Is this ok for my first cycle or is TRT considered a cycle? I know Austin recommends test enanthate only for first cycles.
    Thanks in advance for any assistance on this topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewZ View Post
    Planning & paying for my blood work- trying to figure out what the best options to get everything I need.
    I'm leaning towards getting both female and male hormone panels but it seems like a waste because a bunch of the tests I'll be getting twice.

    Is there a better option than getting both of these?

    Also for the mid-cycle test I want to make sure I get the TT numbers that show what the actual number is when its out of range.
    There was a thread explaining what tests to get from what companies but I cannot find it for the life of me now.

    Much appreciated,
    D
    There is no need to get both. I get male panels. Keep it simple. Thread you're looking is by Docd187123, look up his history to find that thread.


    Quote Originally Posted by sunny335i View Post
    Had one question, I ordered Arimidex liquid from ar-r. So through out my cycle I will use about half the bottle, the rest of the bottle if I store it in room temperature does it expire or I can use it again in about 6 months?
    9 months to a year. that's how long it lasts.

    Quote Originally Posted by King06 View Post
    Good evening everyone.

    I met with the Men's Medical Center today and they were willing to start the TRT today provided I paid $1400.00 bucks! They don't deal with insurance companies so they give you the billing information and it's up to the individual to submit it for reimbursement. I called my insurance provider to find a endocrinologist in network that would be covered. They provide me about fifty names, I made some calls and the information I was provided by ALL of the ones I called (21 so far) leads me to this question for you guys. ALL of their TRT use testosterone cypionate . Is this ok for my first cycle or is TRT considered a cycle? I know Austin recommends test enanthate only for first cycles.
    Thanks in advance for any assistance on this topic.
    Yes, cypionate is the most common ester for testosterone when prescribed. It can be used to cycle, or TRT.
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    Thanks for the quick response Austin. For what it's worth, I appreciate the time you take to help board members out.

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    Appreciate the kind words, King.

    Have a powerful day.
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    I STARTED TESTC 5 MONTHS ago iam at 600mg a week now iam 51 now i have added 200MG OF DANABOL AND 200 TEST PROPINATE 6 WEEKS AGO AND NOW IAM GETTING GOOD GAINS IAM DOING 6 MORE WEEKS TAKE A2MONTH BREAK THEN IAM GOING TO CYCLE TREN DECA TEST CYCLE WITH ANY ADVICE

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    Quote Originally Posted by richard k
    I STARTED TESTC 5 MONTHS ago iam at 600mg a week now iam 51 now i have added 200MG OF DANABOL AND 200 TEST PROPINATE 6 WEEKS AGO AND NOW IAM GETTING GOOD GAINS IAM DOING 6 MORE WEEKS TAKE A2MONTH BREAK THEN IAM GOING TO CYCLE TREN DECA TEST CYCLE WITH ANY ADVICE
    I hope the 200 mg of dBol is a typo & 8 weeks off is not nearly the break your body needs. Maybe double that break after your final administration of your pct.

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    IAM 51 years old iam doing test replacement been doing test c my base line is 187. for 4 months been at 600mg a week for3 months. and the last 6 weeks doing 200mg of danabol injectable 200test prop .iam going to do 6more weeks of the d bol and the test p then take 8weeks off and still keep doing the test c.then iam going to do tren deca test cycle dooes any one have any advise,

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    Quote Originally Posted by richard k
    IAM 51 years old iam doing test replacement been doing test c my base line is 187. for 4 months been at 600mg a week for3 months. and the last 6 weeks doing 200mg of danabol injectable 200test prop .iam going to do 6more weeks of the d bol and the test p then take 8weeks off and still keep doing the test c.then iam going to do tren deca test cycle dooes any one have any advise,
    Oh injectable. I thought it was oral dBol . 600mg still seems a little high, but I've never had my hands on injectable dBol.

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    Ease up would be my advice as it sounds like you're going to hurt yourself.
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    Thumbs up Is A-RR a good source for hCG... Or is their a better place to get it??

    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    Blood work as the article outlines. You can get it from ar-r.com, they are legit; I can confirm.
    what about their hGC aust... I keep hearing AR-R is legit but not their hcG ... Is that true?? And thanks for responding to my "is it to late to run hCG 6 wk into a 12 wk cycle"... Very impressive and should be made a sticky! So, if AR-R is a no no for hCG, than where's the better hCG or is AR-R legit hCG?? Just askin b/c I've heard that hCG from AR-R wasn't good/legit?? Thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    what about their hGC aust... I keep hearing AR-R is legit but not their hcG... Is that true?? And thanks for responding to my "is it to late to run hCG 6 wk into a 12 wk cycle"... Very impressive and should be made a sticky! So, if AR-R is a no no for hCG, than where's the better hCG or is AR-R legit hCG?? Just askin b/c I've heard that hCG from AR-R wasn't good/legit?? Thank you
    ar-r does not sell hCG .
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    Quote Originally Posted by richard k View Post
    IAM 51 years old iam doing test replacement been doing test c my base line is 187. for 4 months been at 600mg a week for3 months. and the last 6 weeks doing 200mg of danabol injectable 200test prop .iam going to do 6more weeks of the d bol and the test p then take 8weeks off and still keep doing the test c.then iam going to do tren deca test cycle dooes any one have any advise,

    This thread is for first cycles using Testosterone only. Please start a new thread for advice so you get related responses.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    Ease up would be my advice as it sounds like you're going to hurt yourself.
    Agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    There is no need to get both. I get male panels. Keep it simple. Thread you're looking is by Docd187123, look up his history to find that thread.
    2x what King said, thanks aust.

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    serching for good advice

    this is for austinite Iam new to this board and i love your 7 rules and you look great. I started trt 5 month agoand now iam at 600mg of test c a week for the last 12 weeks and the last 6 weeks iam at 200 injectable dbol 200 test propand make some ok gains iam going to do 6 more weeks of dbol and test prop. Then take 8 week off and still remaim the 600 test c from my doctor then iam going to cycle with tren deca and more test any advise, ps iam training well and my diet is great i own a restaurant.
    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    thanks for the kind words everyone.
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    iam sorry this is my first forum for me this all new please bare with me

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    Amazing thread! Thank you very much, Austinite. One question, though. Is it true that HCG will degrade once mixed with bac water or NaCl? Through my research Ive found that it can last about 30 days in bac water and about 7 days in NaCl solution. Instead of buying the kit with 5000iu and mixing all at once, wouldnt it make more sense to buy 3 separate 2000iu kits and mix when necessary?

    Also, just to be clear, if I have 2000iu of HCG and mix with 2 mL of bac water, I would only be injecting .25mL of the solution every other day, correct? Thank you again for all the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EpyoN View Post
    Amazing thread! Thank you very much, Austinite. One question, though. Is it true that HCG will degrade once mixed with bac water or NaCl? Through my research Ive found that it can last about 30 days in bac water and about 7 days in NaCl solution. Instead of buying the kit with 5000iu and mixing all at once, wouldnt it make more sense to buy 3 separate 2000iu kits and mix when necessary?

    Also, just to be clear, if I have 2000iu of HCG and mix with 2 mL of bac water, I would only be injecting .25mL of the solution every other day, correct? Thank you again for all the help.
    Hey there,

    The answer to your questions are in the following segments:

    - How the Math Works for Mixing hCG
    - Let's Clear Up Some Confusion About Handling hCG


    Segments above can be found in this thread: http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...njections.html

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    Thank you Austin, great guide !

    I wonder if:

    1) Could it be possible to replace the second injection of 250mg of Test Enanthate with Nandrolone Decanoate ( lowering the dose maybe about 200mg of Nandrolone), And keeping all the rest unchanged, PCT included ? Or could it need any general adjustments integrating Nandrolone ?

    2) Is it possible to replace Arimidex with Proviron ? If so, could you suggest the dosage and time it about ( if no it could be useful if you could explain the matter/differences ) ?

    3) Is it possible Hematocrit at 500mg/wk Test dosage as you told in your cycle example, to raise rapidly to a critical values before you do a blood test at 4° week and becoming life threatening even in your initial blood test was good ?

    Thank you so much !
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    1. No. No other compounds if you want to follow my protocol.

    2. No. Proviron is very weak.

    3. Rapidly? Not very likely, but there are too many variables. It's individualistic. Body fat, diet, sleap apnea and even where you live are all impactful. So there is no telling, this is why you need blood work mid-cycle.
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    I am 42 been working out for about 2 years and have lost 50 lbs!
    I am 5'7", 154 lbs, 13% BF. My TDEE is 2000. I try to eat clean, my macros are:

    P: 150 gm
    C: 200 gm
    F: 45 gm

    Currently cutting.

    I take creatin, calcium, omega 3/6, glucosamine and have recently started on austinites fat loss protocol with chromium, green tea extract and ephedrine (not in his stack) instead of Synephrine

    Blood work:
    E2 21 pg/ml
    FSH 4.7MIU/ml
    LH 8 MIU/ml
    T 502 ng/dl
    SHBG 49nmol/l
    FT 8.1 ng/dl

    I work out MWF hitting a different body part each day. Doing heavy weight reverse pyramid sytle.


    I have all of the supplies needed including three 10 ml vials of 200mg/ml pharmacutical Test-C.

    I plan to run 400 mg per week for 12 wks with 250 U HCG , my big question is this, is there a huge difference in the half dose biweekly vs full dose q 7 days? I prefer to pin once with 400T/500HCG in same syringe.

    Other than that, I will do .25mg Arimidex every other day, n-acetyel cysteine qday and clomid/nolvidex for PCT

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinombre View Post
    I am 42 been working out for about 2 years and have lost 50 lbs!
    I am 5'7", 154 lbs, 13% BF. My TDEE is 2000. I try to eat clean, my macros are:

    P: 150 gm
    C: 200 gm
    F: 45 gm

    Currently cutting.

    I take creatin, calcium, omega 3/6, glucosamine and have recently started on austinites fat loss protocol with chromium, green tea extract and ephedrine (not in his stack) instead of Synephrine

    Blood work:
    E2 21 pg/ml
    FSH 4.7MIU/ml
    LH 8 MIU/ml
    T 502 ng/dl
    SHBG 49nmol/l
    FT 8.1 ng/dl

    I work out MWF hitting a different body part each day. Doing heavy weight reverse pyramid sytle.


    I have all of the supplies needed including three 10 ml vials of 200mg/ml pharmacutical Test-C.

    I plan to run 400 mg per week for 12 wks with 250 U HCG , my big question is this, is there a huge difference in the half dose biweekly vs full dose q 7 days? I prefer to pin once with 400T/500HCG in same syringe.

    Other than that, I will do .25mg Arimidex every other day, n-acetyel cysteine qday and clomid/nolvidex for PCT
    Injecting twice weekly is more stable for your body, so yes. Regardless, hCG is short lived, needs to be twice weekly.
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    Awesome info man really appreciated. I'm doing my first cycle and will be following your protocols! Thanks

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    Would it be possible to take 4ui of HGH and 50mg of wynztrol with this protocol? It wouldn't interfere or harm my body with this would it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avadar
    Would it be possible to take 4ui of HGH and 50mg of wynztrol with this protocol? It wouldn't interfere or harm my body with this would it?
    What's "wynztrol"?

    This thread is for first cycle users who are looking to follow this protocol as listed in the beginning of the thread.

    For all other questions please make a new thread.

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