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Sick!!

Appreciate all your time, and of course the best site hands down!!!

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Kick a$$!! Thank you!!!

Eat meticulous, train ridiculous for best results.

[Score]

I would love the ability to "like" people's posts/comments, like Facebook does. I'm always seeing people doing this ^^^^.. Which is an work-around for the inability to "like" something.

I have no clue how much code that would take, so forgive me if that's a major request.

[austinite]

^ We have the "like" feature already. I believe you have to make sure it's turned on in your settings

[Score]

^ We have the "like" feature already. I believe you have to make sure it's turned on in your settings

Hmm, don't see it. It is an honor to have your direct advice Austinite! DB is my fav on IG thanks to you!

[Score]

Just caught on.... Ha, no thanks : )...

[kelkel]

I believe you have to make sure it's turned on in your settings

Oh you turn on my settings.....

[Score]

Oh you turn on my settings.....

Oh good, I'm not the only one that missed the joke.

[mikeratliff]

Please do not become a source board!! Everyone here has been extremely helpful and positive in so many ways. No reason to change what so ever💪🏼😎

[MuscleScience]

Can we ban Marcus?? He is to big and probably scared of new members. Plus he is a Brit. lol

The mobile app is good. But I wish it would accurately see my threads I participated in. It brings up post I made 6 years ago to the top of my search. I have to search to find threads I participated in and I hate that cause im lazy.

[festaasinrot]

I really like the site. I need my daily fix.
The world of steroids is new ground to me.
So I am one who lurks and does not contribute as I feel i am not qualified even to offer an opinion yet.
This site is a vast source of information, i tend to use the search engine & stickies to find out what i need to know.
Favourites are the Q&S and the cycle progress type threads.

I'de still be totally overwhelmed/miss-guided without this place
still soaking it all up

cheers

[TheTaxMan]

Been a member of several forums but much prefer this one, its broader and alot more active, some forums ive been on are dead and everyone asks questions and for advice but nobodys quick to help.

I agree having it as a none source board but it would be good to have a closed section for members with say i dont know 1000+ posts for example only have access to it and can discuss sources. Its a good way of thanking them for there contributions and activity.

[tice1212]

I think there should be an advanced/ intermediate user Q&A thread. Where we can take about heavy cycles, high dosages and also certain protocols that wouldn't be advised for beginners.

The thread should be available to users with over 500 posts.

[Dannyboy51577]

So, im a newer member, and newer to this world altogether, so here is my opinion on attracting new members and what newbies are looking for by visiting here, for whatever its worth.

One thing you have to realize, is there is a wide spectrum of people visiting any type of site or forum. Some actually want to read, research and learn, some just want info spoonfed to them. Some want to help and inform, some want easy sources and thats all. So a one size fits all approach isnt going to make a significant difference. You have to decide first, which groups of people are most important to attract and retain. If you are just interested in number of new members then figure out what those new members are looking for in the first place- which alot of the time is going to be info spoonfed to them and easy sources. If priority is that you want to retain members and have less focus on new member enrollment, then you can take the suggestions of existing members. But truth is, as a whole, you probably wont be able to accomplish both.

Alot of people will lurk for a wide variety of reasons-pure curiosity, some dont want to enter their info, and sure some just want an easy way to come across sources and be handed info without having to do any work.

One thing to keep in mind is there is a serious uptick in a specific group. That would be the older group looking for options outside of normal medical doctors. Low t, trt, etc has become a big factor. The group of men that now feel more comfortable talking about the subject is growing every day. Clinics, mens health locations, popping up all over. Thats what brought me here. Theres alot of guys looking for help to do it on their own because they just cant get the right help anywhere else.

My opinion, i wouldnt turn into a source board, that will turn off alot of current members. I would guess that alot of people dont participate because they arent knowledgeable and are trying to learn, as well as not sure about how their post would be viewed.

Heres the thing. I understand there is a right way to go about starting to involve yourself with aas and all things associated, and certains do's and dont's. But truth is alot of people are looking for info and answers based on what they are going to do -whether its right or wrong. I agree with trying to educate and inform on how to do things the right way, but theres a fine line, and alot of people dont wanna spend time posting back and forth, so they can listen to people tell them why they are stupid, or why what they are going to do anyway, should be done a different way. Alot of people are turned off and go do what they are gonna do, regardless of what they view as the opinion of others. I would say having that in mind would go a long way.

I browsed different forums before i came across this one and registered here. I want that info and knowledge. Alot dont. But for people like me, who are responsible, want to do it the right way, but also are going to do things the way i want to do them and not necessarily the way someone else thinks i should do it, this forum is only so much help. I can do all the reading, research, and asking that i want, but at the end of the day, the most important thing about getting involved with aas after knowledge, is being able to get good gear, good additional meds, and a good plan, not junk, not getting ripped off and turning you off of forums and online help. And truth is, you can get great knowledge, great info, responses from some of the nicer members, etc but new people hit a brick wall after that. Theres only so much time someone is going to spend on a forum before they realize they cant get much more than info here. And thats kinda where im at. I have done alot of readimg and research here, and a bunch more on my own, and now i need to take the next step into getting a plan implemented, but the only option i have right now is to find out where to obtain materials on my own and hope it works out. And i think alot of newer people get frustrated at that fact and just find another site, it only takes seconds to find one.

Just my 2 cents

[Couchlock]

Sub forum for therapeutic use of cannabis, extracts, and the like

[songdog]

Sub forum for therapeutic use of cannabis, extracts, and the like

I guess you are not going to learn the easy way are you? keep it up and you will be gone you been warned many times on this Couch end it!

[Couchlock]

I guess you are not going to learn the easy way are you? keep it up and you will be gone you been warned many times on this Couch end it!

Wait a god damn minute here, he asked for opinions. And no one would be attacked.

So your going to dictate mine and others opinion on what people would like to see changed?

So as long as a opinion is the same as yours its ok? But if you disagree with it, its time for a ban?

I didn't discuss or talk about anything against the rules.

Here is a suggestion. Stop letting senior members dictate what's right or wrong and attack other members.

Get a life

Ill say it again.

I'd like to see a sub-forum to allow the discussion of therapeutic use of medical marijuana and the like.

29 states and quit a few countries have freedom to use medical MJ. I'm not talking about recreational discussion, like many many members here talk about alcohol, illegal prescription pills and abusing scheduled substances. In talking about legal card holding use of medical RECOMENDED BY DOCTORS CANNABIS CONSUMPTION and benifits involving muscle recovery, soothing joint pain, stomach discomfort (that many experience with use of harsh orals, line anadrol , halo, winny, etc) and helping sleep, which sometimes certain compounds interfere with.


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[GirlyGymRat]

Danny boy. Appreciate candid response.

This forum will have a difficult time attracting women for some of the same points...most are not hardcore BB, are looking for a magic pill or injection , get a lot of back and forth and want to be spoon fed. There are plenty of resources available for Women wanting a diet plan given to them, an exercise plan provided....baahhhahhhh sheep.

When a gal asked for advice, I'll provide, suggest diet and exercise but also answer their questions. They will either get an answer here or more on and possibly get worst guidance elsewhere.

It's a balance. Pick your battles.

[MuscleScience]

I think a Chat bar would be cool. So I could smack talk in real time

[hammerheart]

I think a Chat bar would be cool. So I could smack talk in real time

It would probably just steal away posts from the actual forum.

[Dannyboy51577]

Hey Girlygymrat. I would have to imagine that it would be a difficult proposition to attract women. Generally speaking there is little to no understanding of aas outside the world of it. So its highly unlikely that any but very few women would consult a steroid forum or website for anything at any time. Other than women that know about the workings or benefits, which is few, it would never enter their head to explore it.
True, pick your battles. Which is why i also pointed out the balance of trying to retain the existing members who do not want to alter the site to become a source forum which is understandable, and attempting to gain new members, many of which want things spoonfed and immediate answers. Not easy at all.

But, there is a much smaller population, myself included, who are willing to do research and reading -to a reasonable degree- but who are still new to the world and even with alot of reading and research, still cant get the answers they need and become frustrated.

Unfortunately in this day and age, anything from a google search to a couple minutes of looking around, yields piles of potential options in websites, forums, etc for people to explore. And in that, people as a rule, look for the quickest and easiest solutions, they are going to only spend the time they deem appropriate for any given thing. I generally put in a bit more effort to be sure i end up somewhere like here, instead of alot of other places. Nonetheless, most people dont. They might spend a short amount of time, determine if this is somewhere they can easily navigate, find information and anything else they want, then either check it out for a while or move onto the next site in short order. Just somethin to keep in mind.

I saw something someone else posted earlier in this thread - if people cant get what they want here, because some members only want their opinion to be the right opinion, and source sharing is so frowned upon - those members may feel like they are doing the right thing- but more often than not what it will result in is potential new members to simply search out another site or forum that fits their needs better. So it may be looked at as upholding the rules, doing the right thing, but if it results in these uninformed potential new members, leaving for another site where they get incorrect info, bad advice, and bunk gear, does that accomplish a goal?

Just food for thought

[Obs]

The ability to tag other members in post would be just alright alright alright.

[Sh0tsf1red]

I guess you are not going to learn the easy way are you? keep it up and you will be gone you been warned many times on this Couch end it!

I don't understand the issue with this topic.

There are many other federally illegal substances to posses or manufacture being discussed here across many different jurisdictions. In fact, there have been entire threads about best practices for importing banned substances, in many cases felonious, into the USA. There is discussion about using the US postal system to recieve banned substances, which is a felony in some cases as well.

I've personally never seen such discussion in regards to cannabis.

Sounds like reefer madness!

[Sh0tsf1red]

It would probably just steal away posts from the actual forum.

I've had some posts that felt like real time, I think it should stay classic forum format

[TRA]

So, im a newer member, and newer to this world altogether, so here is my opinion on attracting new members and what newbies are looking for by visiting here, for whatever its worth.

One thing you have to realize, is there is a wide spectrum of people visiting any type of site or forum. Some actually want to read, research and learn, some just want info spoonfed to them. Some want to help and inform, some want easy sources and thats all. So a one size fits all approach isnt going to make a significant difference. You have to decide first, which groups of people are most important to attract and retain. If you are just interested in number of new members then figure out what those new members are looking for in the first place- which alot of the time is going to be info spoonfed to them and easy sources. If priority is that you want to retain members and have less focus on new member enrollment, then you can take the suggestions of existing members. But truth is, as a whole, you probably wont be able to accomplish both.

Alot of people will lurk for a wide variety of reasons-pure curiosity, some dont want to enter their info, and sure some just want an easy way to come across sources and be handed info without having to do any work.

One thing to keep in mind is there is a serious uptick in a specific group. That would be the older group looking for options outside of normal medical doctors. Low t, trt, etc has become a big factor. The group of men that now feel more comfortable talking about the subject is growing every day. Clinics, mens health locations, popping up all over. Thats what brought me here. Theres alot of guys looking for help to do it on their own because they just cant get the right help anywhere else.

My opinion, i wouldnt turn into a source board, that will turn off alot of current members. I would guess that alot of people dont participate because they arent knowledgeable and are trying to learn, as well as not sure about how their post would be viewed.

Heres the thing. I understand there is a right way to go about starting to involve yourself with aas and all things associated, and certains do's and dont's. But truth is alot of people are looking for info and answers based on what they are going to do -whether its right or wrong. I agree with trying to educate and inform on how to do things the right way, but theres a fine line, and alot of people dont wanna spend time posting back and forth, so they can listen to people tell them why they are stupid, or why what they are going to do anyway, should be done a different way. Alot of people are turned off and go do what they are gonna do, regardless of what they view as the opinion of others. I would say having that in mind would go a long way.

I browsed different forums before i came across this one and registered here. I want that info and knowledge. Alot dont. But for people like me, who are responsible, want to do it the right way, but also are going to do things the way i want to do them and not necessarily the way someone else thinks i should do it, this forum is only so much help. I can do all the reading, research, and asking that i want, but at the end of the day, the most important thing about getting involved with aas after knowledge, is being able to get good gear, good additional meds, and a good plan, not junk, not getting ripped off and turning you off of forums and online help. And truth is, you can get great knowledge, great info, responses from some of the nicer members, etc but new people hit a brick wall after that. Theres only so much time someone is going to spend on a forum before they realize they cant get much more than info here. And thats kinda where im at. I have done a lot of readimg and research here, and a bunch more on my own, and now i need to take the next step into getting a plan implemented, but the only option i have right now is to find out where to obtain materials on my own and hope it works out. And i think alot of newer people get frustrated at that fact and just find another site, it only takes seconds to find one.

Just my 2 cents

I think the common thread throughout the posts you refer to as "back and forth" is that the vets here don't want to or simply won't condone practices that are significantly harmful. That is one of the reasons I like this board. And IMHO I don't think we should worry about attracting/keeping people that have an issue with that. There are plenty of other boards out there where a 19 y/o can post up a cycle and get loads of advice and feedback, none of which is cautionary or which addresses the age and reasons to not cycle prematurely.
This "ethical approach" to AAS is furthered by the willingness of those same vets to help someone that comes to the forum with a bad outcome because of reckless use of AAS, regardless of the fact that it may have been age related, use of bad gear, excessive use, etc.
I think the blend of ethics, solid experience, tolerance and truth in this particular site is very difficult, if not impossible to find elsewhere.

[Dannyboy51577]

No that is not what i meant by back and forth. The theme of my opinion is that in current times, there is an emphasis on anything being at your fingertips at the push of a button. I was not referring to anything to do with people not condoning faulty practices.

I was giving an observation concerning the hurdles of the initial post, referring to acquirimg new members and retaining current members.

And not trying to be disrespectful, but your post above is close to what im referring to. The idea that this is one of the few places to get legitimate advice or info is not accurate.
Sure there are plenty of boards where 19 yo can get bogus advice and end up in bad shape. But there are just as many that that same 19 yo can get good advice and end up with a good experience. The internet, forums, boards, are limitless. Alot are bad, alot are good.

I am giving a point of view, and attemptimg to give as objective an opinion as possible to the initial question. Not saying that any of it is fact.

Your statement

[MuscleScience]

I don't understand the issue with this topic.

There are many other federally illegal substances to posses or manufacture being discussed here across many different jurisdictions. In fact, there have been entire threads about best practices for importing banned substances, in many cases felonious, into the USA. There is discussion about using the US postal system to recieve banned substances, which is a felony in some cases as well.

I've personally never seen such discussion in regards to cannabis.

Sounds like reefer madness!

I can personally attest to why we are strict with the rec drug policy as I got suspended about 8 times for joking around about nasally inhaling certain substances off of strippers asses and such.

Around the early 2000’s a lot of forums and dealers were getting popped. Not for selling roids but for roids+rec drugs. The DEA kinda left the bodybuilding community alone and focused on the hardcore stuff. Well someone of course f’d it up for all of us and a huge bust went down back east. Long time members from the NYNJ area could probably tell the story better. Well what happened after that is Bodybuilders got lumped in with rec drug dealers and the community became a huge target. Operation Raw Deal, Roid Slammer and some other high profile large bust we a direct result of the association to rec drugs. So not just here but other but a lot of other forums and organizations really distances themselves from the rec drugs. The DEA did not want steroids on the scheduled substances list but sources were selling K and other shit and forced their hand. If you notice, most sources do not sell that kinda of stuff anymore.

Disclaimer: I do not and haven’t not actually partook in said activities above it’s just fun to joke about. Which is why I got suspended all those times because I enjoy a good joke and get excited and forget where I am sometimes.

[Quester]

The advice is great but isn't it always the same advice about the same subjects? Back 5 and more years ago, they'd just tell the person that the question had been asked and to use the search feature. Now, its "Should I take HCG with my PCT?" Yeah, its right that he gets advice but 8 members need to respond, one can't say it or point to the stickie? Meanwhile, ask a question about hairloss and get a response like, "muscle plus baldness is handsome." Or, another question which takes more thought and it is ignored. Perhaps the people who have knowledge would receive an incentive for using it and no incentive for not putting forth much effort.

[TRA]

Okay, I misunderstood then, and I was certainly not intending to voice a critical tone toward your post. I think I am not fully understanding what you were saying then. I will try to read again and see if I get a different meaning. Thanks for direct response in that regard.

In regard to my statement that this is a unique site, I should have qualified it with "based on my experience." I simply haven't found the same blend of qualities anywhere else as I have here, but admittedly I have not visited all the sites so there could easily be other great ones. I am biased no doubt because of the positive experience I have had here. Guilty.
Thanks again for reply and objective dialogue.

[Quester]

I guess you are not going to learn the easy way are you? keep it up and you will be gone you been warned many times on this Couch end it!

Your so Boss!

This is a forum for voicing opinions about changing things and you respond that he hasn't learned to cow tow to your worldview?

[Dannyboy51577]

Your statement that it is impossible to find the ethical assistance that is found here is very small minded. Not sure if you quite understand the expansiveness of the internet and dark web. For every site that is garbage, there is an equally helpful site. Some take a little effort to find, but nowhere near impossible, as you imply.

I agree that there are some very helpful people here. Thats one of the only reasons i decided to register. And you are going to find that the people that stick around on this forum are the ones that appreciate that. But to say that other boards are the only ones where people get bad advice and bad direction is just narrow. I havent been here lomg, but have seen plenty enough input from people, only to be contradicted by others, and multiple different points of input and opinions and information on the same topic. So it isnt just elsewhere this happens.

But the initial post was in regards to acquiring new members, why people dont register, how to make the forum better.

And it was just my opinions given, as to why people who are not currently members would not be interested here or choose to register. Nothing against the current structure, just some perspective. You need to have honest conversation in order to have wholesale improvements.

[Quester]

It would probably just steal away posts from the actual forum.

Probably most of them but maybe that would raise the bar for the real forum.

[Quester]

I can personally attest to why we are strict with the rec drug policy as I got suspended about 8 times for joking around about nasally inhaling certain substances off of strippers asses and such.

Around the early 2000’s a lot of forums and dealers were getting popped. Not for selling roids but for roids+rec drugs. The DEA kinda left the bodybuilding community alone and focused on the hardcore stuff. Well someone of course f’d it up for all of us and a huge bust went down back east. Long time members from the NYNJ area could probably tell the story better. Well what happened after that is Bodybuilders got lumped in with rec drug dealers and the community became a huge target. Operation Raw Deal, Roid Slammer and some other high profile large bust we a direct result of the association to rec drugs. So not just here but other but a lot of other forums and organizations really distances themselves from the rec drugs. The DEA did not want steroids on the scheduled substances list but sources were selling K and other shit and forced their hand. If you notice, most sources do not sell that kinda of stuff anymore.

Disclaimer: I do not and haven’t not actually partook in said activities above it’s just fun to joke about. Which is why I got suspended all those times because I enjoy a good joke and get excited and forget where I am sometimes.

MS,
I agree. I don't (actively) support the use of recreational substances. They inhibit us from reaching our full potential.
My support for Couch's statement is based on the fact that this is a thread for members to make suggestions.
Additionally, the mafia's attacks on less senior members is not healthy for the group and the objective of this forum. Growth, knowledge and support.
To the rest:
If that isn't what this forum is into, be direct when you let me know or you'll just be frustrated when I tear apart your bullshit statements.

[GirlyGymRat]

I think a Chat bar would be cool. So I could smack talk in real time

They seem to be mostly the same loners with no life instant messaging their equally boring buddies....

SaNap

But it would prob get a lot of newbies posting up topics...I hit a vein on my first pin!!!!

[TRA]

Your statement that it is impossible to find the ethical assistance that is found here is very small minded. Not sure if you quite understand the expansiveness of the internet and dark web. For every site that is garbage, there is an equally helpful site. Some take a little effort to find, but nowhere near impossible, as you imply.

I agree that there are some very helpful people here. Thats one of the only reasons i decided to register. And you are going to find that the people that stick around on this forum are the ones that appreciate that. But to say that other boards are the only ones where people get bad advice and bad direction is just narrow. I havent been here lomg, but have seen plenty enough input from people, only to be contradicted by others, and multiple different points of input and opinions and information on the same topic. So it isnt just elsewhere this happens.

But the initial post was in regards to acquiring new members, why people dont register, how to make the forum better.

And it was just my opinions given, as to why people who are not currently members would not be interested here or choose to register. Nothing against the current structure, just some perspective. You need to have honest conversation in order to have wholesale improvements.

I think I addressed the areas in my reply to you in which I may have erred in an attempt to be objective and have honest discussion. Not sure how that makes me "small minded" and "narrow," especially with the intention of re reading based on your response. I tried to respectfully reply with a planned attempt to re read so I better understood your point, but apparently my small, narrow mind is incapable of the magnanimous feat of comprehension of the inspirational message of such an internet guru. Aum.

[MuscleScience]

They seem to be mostly the same loners with no life instant messaging their equally boring buddies....

SaNap

But it would prob get a lot of newbies posting up topics...I hit a vein on my first pin!!!!

Precisely, I have no friends in real life since I’ve been moving the last two years.

[TRA]

They seem to be mostly the same loners with no life instant messaging their equally boring buddies....

SaNap

But it would prob get a lot of newbies posting up topics...I hit a vein on my first pin!!!!

Well that certainly stopped me dead in my tracks on the way to the Chat bar...
I was just going there for a sparkling water, I swear...

[Dannyboy51577]

Again, no disrespect. I did not say you were small minded or narrow. It would be presumptive of me to say so, and I do not know you personally and would not presume anything about you. I said the statement(s) you made were. I do not presume to be an internet guru of any sort. Nor do I believe that my statements or opinions would be found inspirational. They were made in an attempt to provide an opinion, not fact, in opposition of your position. Just an opposing side of the discussion, and not meant as a dig or insulting. If I come off that way, I sincerely apologize.

There are plenty of instances where we can have opposing opinion on any given subject. Nothing wrong with that. It helps promote progress.

[Quester]

The sarcasm is awesome; delivering an allegory or flat-toned sarcastic example of how to make the forum better is brilliant.