Body recomp without gaining or losing weight?

[Test Monsterone]

Is it possible? I haven't gained or lost anything during the cycle I finished 2 weeks ago. I'm hoping I at least recomped some? I look a little thicker everywhere and my shirts feel tighter, but I'm not heavier.

I know that we are either in a caloric surplus or deficit - if we're right in the middle, are we just spinning our wheels, then? Should I just focus on cutting and then bulking back up, or should I stay the course and keep lifting heavy and upping protein, cutting carbs, etc?

[Littlearnie]

I believe it is. I recently finished 16 weeks. Even though I don’t really count cals too often I tried to eat more at the beginning, mainly bigger portions. Then I just thought I’d eat heathy and basically ate at what I consider maintenance but clean.
I weigh exactly the same now 6 months later but look completely different, especially in my T-shirt’s/shirts..

I didn’t really notice myself for a while but everyone around me tells me how I’ve changed. Someone even come up to me a months ago and said out of everybody in the gym I’ve changed the most this year. Big confidence boosts I’ve been getting.
I also started taking a pic every week or two so I can side by side them and see. And yup, I’m a better me lol

[Windex]

I haven't done the traditional cut/bulk in years. Most people struggle with recomposition based plans because they don't see immediate gratification or validation. Alternatively they don't do enough tracking and fail to see progress.

Progress pictures and multiple consistent body measurements do a much better job telling the story than scale weight.

My weight has gone up since the start of the year but my gut and waist have both shrunk in size.

Recomping without gear or favourable genetics will spin tires though. An optimized HRT plan can go a long way.

[charger69]

Yes you can. In prepping for a comp, I actually gained weight and lost bf. You need to have just the right combo of macros, AAS, and exercise


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[MuscleScience]

It’s possible, in fact most novice exercisers will actually gain weight when they start dieting and lifting weights. They put on muscle and exchange body fat almost evenly.

[GearHeaded]

a lot of high level competitive bodybuilders will actually re-comp into a show. a lot of people think these guys are 300 pounds and huge in the off season and then have to shed 50 pounds to get contest lean . but not always the case. plenty of guys are off drugs in the off season and they are much smaller, and fatter, and then they will grow into (recomp into) a show.
most popular example, Kevin levrone was 230 in the off season, but his stage weight was 245-250. these guys are such good responders to the gear and training they build a ton of muscle and lose fat at the same time.

just like charger is doing now. you have to use the right combination of drugs, diet, and training, to get a good synergy going in order to do this.
9 times out of 10 , doing a Test only cycle is going to be far from sufficient though unless you were a newbie lifter

[Test Monsterone]

Ok, maybe my recomp won't work so great on just TRT... I'm thinking then of just hopping on a low dose EQ cycle at the end of the month and trying to recomp. Just enough to keep muscle. I always feel best at the beginning of a cycle and after I finish it. Like right now it seems like I'm making more gains than I was during the cycle. Maybe the EQ is finally kicking in.

thanks for all the replies and insight!

[Windex]

Recomping would work better with an anabolic over EQ

[< <Samson> >]

Recomp is why I live on tren & mast - my weight barely fluctuates during summer, but I look way better

[Test Monsterone]

I don't think I want to mess around with tren , I already have high bp and not very great HDL cholesterol. If anything I'd try masteron . I guess I would need a whole new protocol for masteron since it's a DHT. Not very knowledgeable of DHTs.

Have any of you tried DHB? I'm really curious to try this.

[< <Samson> >]

Never tried it


But, I have been very lucky to be able to maintain as well as I have on what I run

[GearHeaded]

a combination of anabolics stacked with androgens is the best combo for recomp from my experience
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eg.. stacking Var as your anabolic , along side Tren and Mast as your androgens (with strong anabolic properties). Then adding in growth factor combos like low dose Clen , with T4, HGH, and insulin , to work via non Androgen receptor mediated growth.

then add just enough test to give you the amount of estrogen you need without having to run an AI (estrogen is going to by synergetic with all the above factors).


thats a pretty solid recomp strategy imo

[< <Samson> >]

Oh yeah, can’t forget about the Var

[diesel101]

Recomp is why I live on tren & mast - my weight barely fluctuates during summer, but I look way better

Same here brother!

[diesel101]

Right or wrong all I do is recomp. I worked way to hard over the years to get in shape to do the bulk and cut. I bulked a couple times and hated the way I looked and just couldn't do it anymore. I'm probably sacrificing some size growth but you still have to be somewhat happy with how you look.

[Windex]

I don't think I want to mess around with tren , I already have high bp and not very great HDL cholesterol. If anything I'd try masteron . I guess I would need a whole new protocol for masteron since it's a DHT. Not very knowledgeable of DHTs.

Have any of you tried DHB? I'm really curious to try this.

Tren is not necessary. Recomp can be achieved with Mast, Primo, Var, Deca etc. Just requires proper planning and execution. EQ and Test don't go very far for recomp