I dont want to die

[jamyjamjr]

i was gonna post my diet and get it critiqued but man...i dont wanna get all flamed and discouraged. im surprised fatboy is still around posting.

Keep up the good work man! Couldnt imagine my daughter without a mom or me and having my brother step in and take my place.

soo why dont you post up a diet again?? flamed?? u let me know who's flaming you, ill deal with him..

[t-gunz]

get em jamy!!!

[B.E.N.]

a big load of ship... like 440 lbs - but, if it is not stop eating, see if that works

You are both fools. If your not helping then get off his tip...

Troy Jackson...google him. ESPN did a story on him while he was at Louisville hooping. The boy was huge and could throw the ball down.

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/streetball/...de-ar3828.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy_Jackson

[chitownhoker]

hey fatboy I'm gona be watching this thread, if i were you i would start a log! i started one for my contest and it helped keep me motivated in the begining and the hardest thing is starting. Stick with it at first and it just gets easier! Good luck bro and remember to think positive and lift hard!

[fatboy08]

Hey brothers, just wanted to stop by and say hi and thanks for all the great comments. I did not think this thread was gonna turn into this. It's been great. I'm gonna try and log on every couple days and let you know how things are going. Im gonna post my weight every monday.

Time to workout...Ill keep you guys posted....sweat hard

[eatrainrest]

^^x2 well be waiting, GL

[fatboy08]

Ok, so growing up I was called lots of names for being big. I have been called every name in the book. As I got bigger and stronger I stood up to the biggest bully in my school. I was never messed with again. As you get older and people mature or people just take the time to know they look at you different. I began to not care because I had the people that cared about me in my life. Once in a while I hear people talking or looking. It bothered me at times, but never enough to say anything.


For the first time in a very long time, I found myself furious tonight. I have bbeen through hell this past 2 weeks with losing my brother and having to try and explain things to his son. I had to go through him blaming himself for his mom leaving and now his dad. He put all that on himself. I do not want to go through that again. I love him and told him I will be here for him. I'm keeping my word.

I walked into the gym tonight. Confident and excited and proud I'm trying to better myself. There were two guys there. Theyy were loud and rude from the get go. I can hear them saying things about me. Laughing at me. I told my nephew to ignore them as I tried to as well. I had finished my weight training and was getting ready to do my cardio. I hear a dumbell slam to the ground. I turn around and see my nephew in tears. I walked up to him and asked what was wrong. He said you told me I would be there for him. I said I would, whats is wrong? He told me the 2 guys that were being rude were doing faces and acting as me. He ppointed to one of the guys and said he was acting like he was me and I was having a heart attack. I told my nephew it was ok and that they were jerks. I asked him to go to the car and I would be right there. I was beyond angry and let it get the best of me. I rushed the guy and shoved him into the padded wall as hard as I could. He slid dowr on to his butt gasping for air. I knocked the air out him and began yelling and telling them what this kid went through. I told him I was there trying to better myself, so I could be there for him. His friend wanted to come at me and saying bad things. I told him if he came near me, I would snap his fuc*** neck. That is not me and I am dissapointed in myself, but yet so angry. I got my things and apologized to the other people in the gym for disrupting their workout. I got a call about 40 min later from the manager. He was called by the other people using the gym. He had told me that he heard what happened and apologized to me. The 2 guys were removed of their membership. I felt terrible. It's not at all what I wanted, but a part of me was happy.

I have never done anything to ever harm anybody. Why could they not realize I was there trying to better myself? Even if I am big, I took the steps to be there and change. Why? I'm sorry!

[busaboy27]

hey bro do what you gotta do.. no matter what there is always rude people.. dont feel bad.. fuk those punks.. im glad to hear that they kicked the other people out and not u.. that would be pretty discouraging than.

good luck

[kalspic]

your a good man. if i was in your postion the cops would have to escort me out and throw me in jail if those dumb fvcks did that to me. keep working hard and dont let that little discouragement set you back. reading your posts i can already see a change in you for the better.

[chitownhoker]

sounds like more motivation to me, keeps that fire burning. i love when people dought me, cuz that makes me mad as hell and i will do anything to prove people wronge....it feels good knowing i can overcome things other people cant even fathim....keeping your diet under control and working out religously is something few people can do on a regular basis

[(1*)]

sounds like more motivation to me, keeps that fire burning. i love when people dought me, cuz that makes me mad as hell and i will do anything to prove people wronge....it feels good knowing i can overcome things other people cant even fathim....keeping your diet under control and working out religously is something few people can do on a regular basis

did you recieve any negatives when preparing for the contest you just did?

[Cheylayna1978]

Don't let idiot jerkoffs get the best of you and allow them to bring you down to THEIR level. I understand your frustration, believe me, as I've been there as a Latina woman. (lots of racism and gender dissing)

You got lucky this time in that you avoided trouble with the law. Last thing you want to get is an assault charge put on you from beating some kid's (__!__), and find yourself behind bars because some azzhole got you to stoop down to HIS level.

Stay on YOUR level. That is, LEVEL-HEADED! Good luck to you in fitness, and if you need any help feel free to p.m. me, I assure you this chica knows "a few things".

Tootles!
'Layna

[shaker120]

my large friend one thing that helps me is finding a partner with the same goals do it together lean on each other when one caves the other pushes BE DETERMINED

[eatrainrest]

sounds like more motivation to me, keeps that fire burning. i love when people dought me, cuz that makes me mad as hell and i will do anything to prove people wronge....it feels good knowing i can overcome things other people cant even fathim....keeping your diet under control and working out religously is something few people can do on a regular basis

love that

[jamyjamjr]

Ok, so growing up I was called lots of names for being big. I have been called every name in the book. As I got bigger and stronger I stood up to the biggest bully in my school. I was never messed with again. As you get older and people mature or people just take the time to know they look at you different. I began to not care because I had the people that cared about me in my life. Once in a while I hear people talking or looking. It bothered me at times, but never enough to say anything.


For the first time in a very long time, I found myself furious tonight. I have bbeen through hell this past 2 weeks with losing my brother and having to try and explain things to his son. I had to go through him blaming himself for his mom leaving and now his dad. He put all that on himself. I do not want to go through that again. I love him and told him I will be here for him. I'm keeping my word.

I walked into the gym tonight. Confident and excited and proud I'm trying to better myself. There were two guys there. Theyy were loud and rude from the get go. I can hear them saying things about me. Laughing at me. I told my nephew to ignore them as I tried to as well. I had finished my weight training and was getting ready to do my cardio. I hear a dumbell slam to the ground. I turn around and see my nephew in tears. I walked up to him and asked what was wrong. He said you told me I would be there for him. I said I would, whats is wrong? He told me the 2 guys that were being rude were doing faces and acting as me. He ppointed to one of the guys and said he was acting like he was me and I was having a heart attack. I told my nephew it was ok and that they were jerks. I asked him to go to the car and I would be right there. I was beyond angry and let it get the best of me. I rushed the guy and shoved him into the padded wall as hard as I could. He slid dowr on to his butt gasping for air. I knocked the air out him and began yelling and telling them what this kid went through. I told him I was there trying to better myself, so I could be there for him. His friend wanted to come at me and saying bad things. I told him if he came near me, I would snap his fuc*** neck. That is not me and I am dissapointed in myself, but yet so angry. I got my things and apologized to the other people in the gym for disrupting their workout. I got a call about 40 min later from the manager. He was called by the other people using the gym. He had told me that he heard what happened and apologized to me. The 2 guys were removed of their membership. I felt terrible. It's not at all what I wanted, but a part of me was happy.

I have never done anything to ever harm anybody. Why could they not realize I was there trying to better myself? Even if I am big, I took the steps to be there and change. Why? I'm sorry!

that guy had it comin.. im glad u put a spanking on him.... keep up the good work at the gym bud.. and keep us posted...

[fit4ever]

Hey everyone, thanks for posting a reply and actually being supportive and understanding. I started watching videos lastnite, but did not make it through as I was dozing. I will watch them and plan on reading everything I can. I woke up this morning and went for a 2 mile walk. I im dedicated to beating this.

jamyjamjr, here is how my typical day is. I wake up at 4:30 to get ready to be to work by 6:00am. I do not have breakfast. I will wait till about 8:00 am and grab a breakfast burrito which consits off egg, sausage, potato and cheese. I dont drink soda or juice, just never really have. I drink tons of milk and water. At lunch time I usually do not eat, but if I do I grab something off the roach coach like tacos or tamales or another burrito. I would say 80% of the time I do not eat. After work i am usualy in a hurry and will grab a burger and fries and meet the kids for practice or take care of other things I may need to. About 8:00pm when we finally get home and everything is taken care of I will sit down for dinner. I know my diet is terrible and as I go on, its quite embarassing and rediculous, but dinner is the worst. I will eat whatever is made and dont care. Lastnite I had 3 pieces of fried chicken, potato salad, coleslaw, 2 biscuits. I then ate about 6 cookies and big glass of milk.

That is my typical day. Terrible and ashamed

80% of the time you do not eat?

I think you eat more frequently than you advertise and you probably intake more than you realize as well. Because your weight is not a mistake and it didn't take place overnight.

Odds are that you have a very intimate relationship with food. This type of behavior is very common with those that are depressed in a certain area of their life. We often turn to things that make us feel good and the habit then becomes a guilty pleasure.

So what do you do? Well, you could remove the amounts and types of foods that you're struggling with at this time. But if you're turning to food because you're wounded inside, then choosing to address only the food is not going to make things better. You've got to get down to the root of the problem before you attempt to address the things that are obvious on the surface.

I challenge you to surrender to your fear and address all of the wounds that exist in your life today. Because sugarcoating the truth will continue to fuel your pride. And you cannot be successful in self improvement if you're a prideful person.

[binsser]

Hello bro good to see ur still doing well mate and getting fit and busting heads lolol i read what happened all i can say is fck em they had it coming bro and u smashed em get in there m8 keep it up and look at it like this bro as long as u have that fire inside, ur going to hit new levels in a big way my m8 so keep it up and were proud of u bud ltr binsss!!!!

[fatboy08]

80% of the time you do not eat?

I think you eat more frequently than you advertise and you probably intake more than you realize as well. Because your weight is not a mistake and it didn't take place overnight.

Odds are that you have a very intimate relationship with food. This type of behavior is very common with those that are depressed in a certain area of their life. We often turn to things that make us feel good and the habit then becomes a guilty pleasure.

So what do you do? Well, you could remove the amounts and types of foods that you're struggling with at this time. But if you're turning to food because you're wounded inside, then choosing to address only the food is not going to make things better. You've got to get down to the root of the problem before you attempt to address the things that are obvious on the surface.

I challenge you to surrender to your fear and address all of the wounds that exist in your life today. Because sugarcoating the truth will continue to fuel your pride. And you cannot be successful in self improvement if you're a prideful person.

I'm not saying that I do not eat. I'm saying 80% of the time I do not eat a lunch during the week, while at work. When I would get off from work I would eat the wrong foods. I would eat quite a bit of the wrong foods. When I would get home for the night, I would eat like I never ate. Huge portions.

I know I ate wrong. I knew I was big and it was unhealthy. My brother passed away and left a child behind with no mother and that is why I am here. I dont want to leave him behind and if I dont change my lifestyle then there would be a good chance he would be left with nobody. It sucks it took this for me to open my eyes, and it upsets me, but all I can do is change and want to change. That is why I am here. I'm doing this for my nephew, family, but also myself.

I'm not trying to hide anything. I was teased, humiliated, low self esteem, insecure. I have been down that road and till this day I still feel those things at times. I'm not exactly sure what I'm suppose to say in response to this comment. It hurt and sucked coming up. I missed out on a lot of things. I really dont know what else to say.

[fatboy08]

[B]Now for my update.

As you all know I have been eating better, working out and just trying to be better all around. This week has been hard, but I have felt so good about myself. I do have more energy and find myself wanting so much more now.

I started out at 441 last monday morning and today I weighed myself with a reading of 334. That is 7lbs. First thing that popped in my head was of course excitement. Then immediately I began to wonder if that was too much too fast. Should I expect to lose this much this fast? I have followed my diet and exercise the exact same way from day one and exactly how my diet is posted. Of course I'm excited but also concerned, so if you guys have some input that would be great.

I'm trying to not be too excited because I have a very long road ahead of me, but damn am I even more so motivated. Keep focus and stay on track.

I want to thank everyone on here for their support. Everyone has been great. This is for you too bro's...oh and leyna...because I think she the only woman on here that has been supportive. THANK YOU ALL!!

[amcon]

I'm not saying that I do not eat. I'm saying 80% of the time I do not eat a lunch during the week, while at work. When I would get off from work I would eat the wrong foods. I would eat quite a bit of the wrong foods. When I would get home for the night, I would eat like I never ate. Huge portions.

I know I ate wrong. I knew I was big and it was unhealthy. My brother passed away and left a child behind with no mother and that is why I am here. I dont want to leave him behind and if I dont change my lifestyle then there would be a good chance he would be left with nobody. It sucks it took this for me to open my eyes, and it upsets me, but all I can do is change and want to change. That is why I am here. I'm doing this for my nephew, family, but also myself.

I'm not trying to hide anything. I was teased, humiliated, low self esteem, insecure. I have been down that road and till this day I still feel those things at times. I'm not exactly sure what I'm suppose to say in response to this comment. It hurt and sucked coming up. I missed out on a lot of things. I really dont know what else to say.

so what has changed with your diet? lets get some #s down for you weight and set realistic gaols for you to see results and build off that...

fyi - you are where you are in life now lets change it....!!!! cant keep looking back and frustrating your self.

what is your first goal?

what are you going to do to day to change your diet?

lets gooooo

[fit4ever]

I'm not trying to hide anything. I was teased, humiliated, low self esteem, insecure. I have been down that road and till this day I still feel those things at times. I'm not exactly sure what I'm suppose to say in response to this comment. It hurt and sucked coming up. I missed out on a lot of things. I really dont know what else to say.

Good deal. It's fantastic that you're addressing the physical part of your life. But I'm going to encourage you to address the mental part of your life as well. You want to lose weight, that's for sure. But I'd be willing to bet that you'd be very content just losing those feelings that have been fermenting within you for so many years now. And when you're able to to do that, your weight won't haunt you as much as it does today.

Keep this in mind in the coming days: Forgiveness is setting a prisoner free and then later realizing that the prisoner was infact yourself all along.

[chitownhoker]

did you recieve any negatives when preparing for the contest you just did?

man you better believe it.... i for one LOVE food, especially cookies, ice cream, pastries, fat cuts of steaks, double burgers, hashbrowns, all that stuff. I love to eat, and i am never hungry, that has to be the worse feeling in the world. So when i told everyone that i was going to do this competition, i got the "oh really?...um well good luck" and you could sense no one thought i could do, especially my parents. People tried to get me to drink, my roommates floated food in my face all for the first month or so, but then everyone realized i wasn't fuking around and then i started getting support, i was almost as fueled by the dought as i was by the competition, there were morning i could give a shit about the contest, but then i would think about those people and my ass would be out of bed like no tomorrow.....like i said, starting is the hardest part cuz your chaning your lifestyle and people don't like change so they try to keep you the same...show people that your better than that and they will soon respect you far more

[fatboy08]

do you think 7lbs in one week is too much too fast?

[(1*)]

do you think 7lbs in one week is too much too fast?

not at all. especially for your circumstances. changed diet and working out will shock a body into super fast metabolism activity. keep it up.
go get a season of the "biggest looser" and watch the weight they drop. some go up over 10lbs in one week.

[fatboy08]

Thanks. Was a little concerned, but now I feel better and can be excited.

[j4ever41]

whats up fatboy? you doing great bro hang in there and stay dedicated, you will be suprised with your results in only a couple of months.

[juicy_brucy]

fatboy08, you handled yourself well in regards to those stupid fools that dont understand the philosophy of the gym... and those guys don't deserve a gym, they deserve a kick in the ass. Don't stop. Ever. Make them eat their words. You have all the encouragement you need right here. the fact that you are doing this is great! You are not a loser. You are clearly a winner.

[amcon]

fatboy tell us your up dates ...

[fatboy08]

Thanks juicy, that means a ton. Thank you everyone for the encouragement and support.

[fatboy08]

fatboy tell us your up dates ...

I started my new diet and working out last monday. I weighed in at 441 at aabout 6:15am last monday morning and just this past monday morning I weighed myself on same scale at same time and came in at 434. I was a little concerned about it being too much too fast, but *1 chimed in saying that it is good progress and was very possible and that made me feel better. I'm very excited, but know I have a long road ahead of me and will continue to work hard.

I also want to update everyone on my confrontation at the gym a few days back. Yesterday management came up to me and apologized for what happened. They said there is no need for me to apologize and they would appreciate if I accepted a 6 month, no charge membership. I gladly accepted. They also donated $500 to his fathers memorial fund for his education.

[eatrainrest]

tahts awesome your gnna be a skinny fat guy soon! (im still a fat kid at heart, lol, insecure about my appearance always!), but anyway.. that does seem like too much to lose in one week. how much have you decreased calories? they shouldve been decreaesd about 500 considering you didnt change anything exercise/cardio related.

[fatboy08]

Ok so here is my very first attempt at setting up my diet. Please let me know what you guys think.

REVISED: I did not copy one perticular diet. I read through the forums and got ideas and what would be be easy and affordable for me at this time. I added somethings different. Changed the macros to benefit me and my needs. As I go on and learn more I will bring more variety into my diet.

Cal, protein(g), carbs(g), fat(g)

4am- empty stomach cardio


M1: 5a.m.- 14 eggwhites, 1cup oats- 541, 60, 57, 7
M2: 8a.m.- 6oz tuna, ezekiel bread (2slices)- 310, 43, 30, 2
M3: 10:30a.m.- 8oz chicken breast, 1/2 cup brown rice- 580, 49, 64, 13
M4: 12:30p.m.- 8oz tilapia, 1/2 cup brown rice - 518, 51, 64, 6
M5: 4p.m.- same as M2 + medium sweet potato- 446, 45, 54, 6
weight training- 7pm-8pm
cardio- 8pm-8:20pm
M6: PWO- 60g whey protein, plain bagel
M7: 9:30- 1/2lb lean beef marinated in olive oil- 537, 66, 0, 36
I will try different variations for M7. Just what I have available now.

TOTALS: 2932, 314, 269, 70
This does not include PWO as I do not know all micros for whey shake.

Should I replace any of these meals with a protein shake or any other supplement?

Also I have some fish oil and flaxseed oil, both in pill form. Should I use these and when?

Thanks for the help guys. I know I am probably far off, but I'm trying.

This is exactly how I eat everyday. Every morning I do 45 min of cardio. 3.0 on treadmill with a incline of 2. I also do a lot of walking and lifting at my job. I then workout for 60 min followed by 15 more minutes of cardio

[eatrainrest]

use EFA's with protein and no carbs at night. you should get a macro percentage breakdown so you can see what you are getting. you should defiantely account for how many cals are in the shake. i also dont think that 60g is necessary for immediate PWO. i think 2:1 carbs to protein will suffice i do 50g carbs 25 whey when i wnt to bulk up for PWO (when i cut i just have a meal when i get home to take advantage of afterburn fat kcals). you should kick that 15 minutes of PWO cardio to 30. i also think that carb cycling/keto diets will be in your interest after running this for quite some time.

[fatboy08]

I look back on how I ate and even on the days I did not eat lunch at work, I still ate quite a bit and very bad. Some days I ate fast food twice and it would always be the biggest burger and the biggest fries and always something extra like a 5 piece nugget or milkshake. I would then snack throught the day. At dinner time I ate huge portions and sometimes 2 plates. I would snack more and up to the time I went to bed. I would honestly say I was probably consuming 5-6000 cal a day.

[fatboy08]

use EFA's with protein and no carbs at night. you should get a macro percentage breakdown so you can see what you are getting. you should defiantely account for how many cals are in the shake. i also dont think that 60g is necessary for immediate PWO. i think 2:1 carbs to protein will suffice i do 50g carbs 25 whey when i wnt to bulk up for PWO (when i cut i just have a meal when i get home to take advantage of afterburn fat kcals). you should kick that 15 minutes of PWO cardio to 30. i also think that carb cycling/keto diets will be in your interest after running this for quite some time.

My meal before bed consits of lean beef marinated in olive oil. no carbs. should I change this? Also, pwo shake is around 260cal. Do I cut the shake out completely? or just the plain bagel?

[eatrainrest]

My meal before bed consits of lean beef marinated in olive oil. no carbs. should I change this? Also, pwo shake is around 260cal. Do I cut the shake out completely?

to be hoenst with you, there should be carbs in that protein shake. but when i cut, i can tell you that after my workout and 30 min fat burning cardio, i just wait till i get home then chow down my carb/protein meal. throw out the shake because you burn x amount of fat kcals after cardio so in your case, loets take advantage of this. peoples anabolic window is alot bigger than people think.

[eatrainrest]

ill also send you al ink in regards to workouts/cardio i strongly recommend you read. i also have a beginners workout that will work extremely well in your case to expel mass amounts of muscle glycogen and calories.

Free Training Advice-national certified trainer

[fatboy08]

So I will cut out the PWO shake after weights. Do 30 min of cardio and when I get home eat a protein/carb meal? Or do I stay with my lean beef/olive oil?

[eatrainrest]

So I will cut out the PWO shake after weights. Do 30 min of cardio and when I get home eat a protein/carb meal? Or do I stay with my lean beef/olive oil?

when you get home go protein carb meal.. my favorite PWO meal is oatmeal pancakes wiht 1 serving sugar free syrup insanely good.

[fatboy08]

when you get home go protein carb meal.. my favorite PWO meal is oatmeal pancakes wiht 1 serving sugar free syrup insanely good.

insanely good? lol..does sound good...I will give it a shot. Thanks bro