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09-10-2011, 01:13 AM #1
Doc's revised Diet (Give it to me straight)
Ok first of all i will give you a link to my previous diet for those of you that dont remember...
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-Doc-get-to-12
What I had to do was get the total calories down a bit for the day and add something to my post AM workout meal so i could push all my meals back a little. Pretty much just added Pancakes into the first meal (thanks Slim) and changed Jasmine Rice to Basmati Rice and played around with the numbers.
Let me know what you think anyway
Stats
Age: 26
Weight: 170
Height 5”8’
Bf%: 14%
Goals: Reach 12% and then reassess from there
5.30am
2 x Amino Acid tablets
Black coffee
Pro/Fat/Carbs/Cals
6.4g/4g/10g/67
GYM
6am-7.20am
7.30am
Protein Shake
200g - Oats
Pro/Fat/Carbs/Cals
41g/9g/65g/510
10.30am
150g - Chicken
50g - Basmati Rice
15 x Almonds
1 x Broccoli
Pro/Fat/Carbs/Cals
54g/13g/34g/508
01.30pm
185g - Tuna
75g - Sweet Potato
200g - Cucumber
Pro/Fat/Carbs/Cals
50g/4g/22g/200
04.30pm
150g - Chicken
50g - Basmati Rice
15 x Almonds
1 x Broccoli
Pro/Fat/Carbs/Cals
54g/13g/34g/508
GYM
5pm-6.30pm
06.30pm
Protein Shake (WPI SHAKE)
Pro/Fat/Carbs/Cals
42g/0g/1g/180
08.30pm
5 x eggs (2 whole 3 egg whites)
50g - Mushrooms
Herbs and spices (Random stuff for taste)
Pro/Fat/Carbs/Cals
23g/10g/4g/216
Total:
Pro/Fat/Carbs/Cals
273g/51.5g/170g/2196
Let me know guys, as always open to any adviceLast edited by Dr Pepper; 09-25-2011 at 04:58 AM.
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09-10-2011, 01:58 AM #2
Is that really ONE HUNDRED AND ninety two grams of carbs in your morning PWO meal? And is the protein in this meal all from whey?
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09-10-2011, 01:59 AM #3
I assume that your AM gym is a fasted cardio and not a full workout?
IMO I would drop your carbs, those pancakes are killing your daily numbers.
You dont like oatmeal?
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09-10-2011, 02:14 AM #4
Sorry guys, that was a MASSIVE typo. Its actually 73 grams of carbs not 192 grams. Changing the daily total to 178g... That one meal's carb total was bigger than my total carb intake for the whole day, lol... Thanks for pointing that out..
I dont mind oats had them plenty of times just changing it up a little...
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09-10-2011, 06:43 PM #5
Bump, no one??
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09-10-2011, 08:36 PM #6
With the goal in mind being to reduce bodyfat, carbs may be a bit on the high side IMO. Protein and fats both look pretty good.
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09-10-2011, 09:07 PM #7
Are you only having coffee before the gym? no food?
and why do the others think the pancakes are not okay when they are oats, egg whites and cottage cheese?Life is too short, so kiss slowly, laugh insanely, love truly and forgive quickly.Author Unknown
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09-10-2011, 11:09 PM #8
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09-10-2011, 11:11 PM #9
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09-11-2011, 02:51 AM #10
What, exactly, is in your morning protein shake?
And how and why are you taking in 87 calories BEFORE your morning cardio?
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09-11-2011, 03:03 AM #11
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09-11-2011, 04:30 AM #12
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09-11-2011, 04:39 AM #13
I personally believe you could cut bodyfat more effectively by incorporating a 4 day carb cycle. For example,
Day 1: 50g carbs
Day 2: 100g carbs
Day 3: 150g carbs
Day 4: 75g of carbs
Also following the idea of 1.5g of protein per pound, I would suggest hitting at least 255g of protein a day. Personally, I would strive for at least 275g to ensure the muscles are being given enough protein.
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09-11-2011, 05:28 AM #14
Yeh its just a whey and casien mix shake mate... just that and the pancakes after my workout... Carbs in it, oat flower, waxy maize, few others but thats about it...
Yeah this coffee is annoying me. All im having is a black coffee with a bit of skim milk. Not sure if your familiar with calorieking, but its what i use. And its telling me that its between 60-220 cals for a black coffee. There all differant. And my coffee has no macro information
So you think is 0 cals?
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09-11-2011, 05:32 AM #15
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09-11-2011, 05:33 AM #16
GB waiting to hear back on how i can strip some more carbs of the total... What does anyone else think about replacing the AM whey shake with a WPI...?
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09-11-2011, 06:45 AM #17
Coffee calories are negligible. A few clas for black coffee plus whatever skim milk you have in it. You can work out the milk cals easy enough but skim milk has virtually no fat. Can I say, before an am cardio session i take a 200mg caffeine pill. Don't enjoy black coffee so it's a good strong caffeine hit without sticking milk an cup.
As for swapping the am protein shake to a WPI, if you do this, the protein will be used within an hour and you'll need to add another protein source anyway. As you are already having a concentrate (which includes Iso) plus casein, I would leave as is.
As for dropping carbs, why don't you limit you post am carbs to 50g. Eat a complex carb next for your pre pm workout - 150g sweet potato, and then add 50g powdered oats to your PWO afternoon shake. 3 lots of carbs only giving you about 130g in total.
I'm still not sure about some of your macro's. 185g of tuna is gonna give you waaaaaay more than 24g protein. Though I think your protein in that meal could do with being upped.
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09-11-2011, 09:03 AM #18
Don't you think you need some food before you workout in the gym? I would think so. Wondering why you aren't.
And as far as the pancakes....arent they made with egg whites? plus some cottage cheese? and of course the oats. Seems to me they would be fine while trying to lose BF.....worked for me....Life is too short, so kiss slowly, laugh insanely, love truly and forgive quickly.Author Unknown
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09-11-2011, 10:17 AM #19
Slimmer, his morning gym workout is actually low intensity fasted cardio.
Dr, wanna check the macro's on meals 2 & 4, particularly protein content. If your 150g of chicken is uncooked weight, you are looking at about 34g of protein. PM me your email addy and I'll let you have my 2100cal cutting diet that has carbs in FIVE meals!
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09-11-2011, 10:25 AM #20
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09-11-2011, 12:12 PM #21
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09-11-2011, 12:27 PM #22
I'm lost SM. I'm not the OP. I eat oats.
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09-11-2011, 01:16 PM #23
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09-11-2011, 02:07 PM #24
Doc, you have so many good peeps here advising, i'm not sure what I can add. Let me know what I can help with specifically, if anything.
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09-11-2011, 04:28 PM #25
Yeh I don't mind the taste of coffee so I think il stick with it, but I will adjust the cals on that one to no more than 5... Your right about the tuna it was more, adjusted now. Lucky your licking up all this stuff. I wrote it a bit rushed Friday night before work.
I will look into the carb thing like you said and try and adjust my meals...
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09-11-2011, 04:33 PM #26
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09-11-2011, 04:38 PM #27
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09-11-2011, 04:41 PM #28
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09-11-2011, 04:43 PM #29
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09-11-2011, 08:03 PM #30
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09-11-2011, 09:53 PM #31
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09-11-2011, 11:02 PM #32
Yeah I thought it was Gbrice's recipe, maybe baselines
Its cottage cheese, rolled oats, egg whites and protein powder. Add water for consistancy if needed. You can play around with measurements. Basically cup each oats and cottage cheese, couple scoops protein powder.
Blend oats until powder, add egg whites(about 6) then cottage cheese and protein. options- splender, vanilla, blueberries suger free syrup. They freeze well, so make a big batch.
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09-11-2011, 11:11 PM #33
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09-12-2011, 12:27 AM #34
Make them to suit your macros. Need more carbs? up the oats.
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09-12-2011, 02:25 AM #35
Doc, can you post your workout schedule for me. ie what does you do am cardio, what days you do weights and what bodyparts and any cardio that you do after your weights, if any.
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09-12-2011, 03:19 AM #36
Hey mate
In the AM I do 40mins low/medium intensity cardio on the treadmill followed by 15 mins in the steam room
In the PM. Keeping in mind I don't train upper body because I'm recovering from a tendon injury
Iv just started a couple of upper body exercises for recovery of my injury only, not muscle building.
Monday - Tricep Pushdowns, Forearm curls, Calves, 20mins Cardio, 15mins steam room
Tuesday - Abs, 20 mins cardio, 15mins steam room
Wednesday - Quads, hamstrings, 20 mins cardio, 15 mins steam room
Thursday - Same as Monday
Friday - Same as Tuesday
Sat and Sun - OffLast edited by Dr Pepper; 09-12-2011 at 03:32 AM.
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09-12-2011, 03:49 AM #37
What level of intensity is your PM cardio? Are you doing HIIT?
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09-12-2011, 04:50 AM #38
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09-12-2011, 05:44 AM #39
After your leg session low intensity cardio is fine.
If you can do 30 mins HIIT on the other days, then you'll notice a difference to your fitness as well as your bodyfat levels. 30 mins HIIT for me includes warm up and cool down. 20 mins of real HIIT is enough for most, especially if you are doing other forms of exercise.
You have a PM!
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09-12-2011, 09:31 AM #40
Oat Pancakes:
1 cup oats
1 cup egg whites
1 cup fat free cottage cheese
splash of water if need be for batter consistency
Splenda all you want
nutmeg, dash if you so desire
drop of vanilla, if desired
First: Blend the oats in a blender until real powdery (no water just blend dry )
Add all the above ingredients and blend until a good consistency for a pancake
Cook on griddle/pan which should be real hot sprayed with Pam....and then cook like a regular pancake
TOP with:
Sugar free syrup and banana, raspberries or blueberries
and dollop of plain Greek yogurt to spread around the pancake and sprinkle some splenda on top of the yogurt
ENJOY!
MAKES 3 BIG PANCAKES! so good for 3 meals.
ps: I use regular old-fashioned oats, not rolled oats as they tend to be much tougher like a cardboard consistencyLast edited by SlimmerMe; 09-12-2011 at 09:34 AM.
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