My Attempted Lean Bulk!

**Back In Black** · 10-24-2012, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

stem i will pray for u man!

hope it all turns out well! i remember talking to u about TRT when i was investigating mine and u said u had urs chekd and it was good. im glad u went back and had it chekd again. funny how things change.

Thanks mate.

I was told it was normal by a Dr at the breast clinic. She also told me protein shakes could give you gyno. I lost faith in my issue being resolved after that. Should have got my test checked straight away. In fairness my test is just within range, according to the NHS that's normal. Had to go private but I suspect the outlay will be worth it!

**digsy1983** · 11-21-2012, 04:11 PM

your op must be close now man.

here's a bump for good luck!!!

**Back In Black** · 11-22-2012, 06:48 AM

Damn, I knew someone would bump this eventually! Cheers mate

Surgery is next Wednesday, 6 days time. Can't wait. Even the thoughts of recovery/pain and not working out are outweight at the aesthetic results I am hoping for. Plus, both sides are painful even now, especially when my little girl elbows me there. Interested to see the results of the histology/biopsy afterwards.

Sadly, I am just starting to feel a benefit in terms of physique from my TRT. On the plus side I should make some great gains when I get back to training properly.

Currently at 186lbs and, despite having just had 2 big weekends away, that's only 2lbs above where I want to/will be at on surgery day. 2 more lifting days and 3 or 4 cardio sessions left which I intend to make the very most of!

**GirlyGymRat** · 11-23-2012, 08:33 PM

Wishing you the very best outcome on your upcoming surgery! Interesting...i have a pre-surgery desired weight too and am counting the number of workouts.

i do have a question for you based on bmwgirls thread when you mentioned

nce diet is dialled in, we can discuss other, BETTER, options as a fat burner. She is on whinny i think. What would you suggest if her diet was dialed in.....i am asking for myself!

**GirlyGymRat** · 11-23-2012, 08:34 PM

Wishing you the very best outcome on your upcoming surgery! Interesting...i have a pre-surgery desired weight too and am counting the number of workouts.

i do have a question for you based on bmwgirls thread when you mentioned

nce diet is dialled in, we can discuss other, BETTER, options as a fat burner. She is on whinny i think. What would you suggest if her diet was dialed in.....i am asking for myself!

**GirlyGymRat** · 11-23-2012, 08:35 PM

i guess i really want to know....the dreaded double post LOL

**Back In Black** · 11-24-2012, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat

i guess i really want to know....the dreaded double post LOL

Ha ha, really keen! Winny is often used in cutting cycles but its thermogenic properties are, as I understand, limited and it just makes muscle look 'harder' when already lean. It's a safer steroid to use for women but only in the right amounts, for some basic lean gains. But the oral version is very toxic to the liver.

I know that wasn't your question, btw! The only 3 thermogenic compounds that I could recommend as working would be ECA, clen and also Yohimbine HCL with caffeine. Each one has their own side effects and risks that you/anybody should thoroughly research before starting. Clen is probably the most effective but carries the highest health risks.

Surgery is in 4 days. That's one more lifting session and 1 more fasted cardio session before I get maybe 10 days off all exercise! My post surgery compression garments arrived today. Doesn't make it any more real, I simply can't wait to have it done!

**GirlyGymRat** · 11-24-2012, 05:42 AM

Thx SteM. I was surprised u didn't mention anavar .....that one seems popular with fitness gals!

We like surgery buddies. Crutches are adjusted and ready to go! Lol.

**Back In Black** · 11-24-2012, 05:49 AM

Anavar is a steroid still and, again, not a thermogenic as the others! When's your surgery?

**GirlyGymRat** · 11-24-2012, 06:07 AM

Thursday. As soon as I can walk unassisted, next the rotor cuff. I figure it be a good 6 months till I get a decent work out. So my lips r sealed (so to speak hahahahaha)

**Back In Black** · 11-24-2012, 08:37 AM

Anavar is a steroid still and, again, not a thermogenic as the others! When's your surgery?

**GirlyGymRat** · 11-24-2012, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by SteM

Anavar is a steroid still and, again, not a thermogenic as the others! When's your surgery?

Dreaded bloody double post!!!

**Back In Black** · 11-24-2012, 11:36 AM

Don't know how that happened, they are 3 hours apart!!!!!!!!!!

**SlimmerMe** · 11-24-2012, 11:40 AM

^^ must be going thru an upgrade or something as the site is very off today. The forum list is not showing up at all. And the threads are on my profile page....

**milky01623** · 11-27-2012, 01:39 AM

Good luck for today buddy :-)

We'll train soon

**Back In Black** · 11-27-2012, 08:06 AM

Cheers Milky. Surgery tomorrow, can't wait. Have no quarms about it. Not nervous, no worrying, no lack of sleep. More concerned about the housework not getting done for the next week!

Trained on Sunday for the last time and I'm at my desired weight of 184 as of this morning.

I'll be dropping 50g each of carbs and protein from my diet as of today for the next 12 days or so. Can't even consider LIC until my dressings come off after 7 days. I suspect that cardio is the only exercise I'll be able to do for the rest of the year so it may end up being a mini cut until XMAS.

2 more meals today and then nothing to eat for 24 hours (if I'm in the mood after my op!).

**krugerr** · 11-27-2012, 08:12 AM

Best of luck SteM. Hope it goes as planned, and a speedy recovery

**RaginCajun** · 11-27-2012, 08:32 AM

wish ya luck my friend!

**GirlyGymRat** · 11-27-2012, 10:04 PM

Wishing you well and Godspeed recovery!

**Back In Black** · 11-29-2012, 03:32 AM

Day after surgery, just waiting to get my drains out. There was a HUGE lump in my right side, not sure how it came out such a small incision. The surgeon's 'lump of the year'!

Hopefully I can leave in an hour or so and get home and catch up on last nights very broken sleep!

Looking forward to a real chest and no more continual daily pain!

**milky01623** · 11-29-2012, 04:23 AM

Glad to see your ok buddy :-)

I'll just return your Ann summers lingerie bra that I got u from Santa I guess you won't be needing it now shame really it was the satin lacy red and black number you asked for ......

**Back In Black** · 11-29-2012, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by milky01623

Glad to see your ok buddy :-)

I'll just return your Ann summers lingerie bra that I got u from Santa I guess you won't be needing it now shame really it was the satin lacy red and black number you asked for ......

Ha ha, I'll still have it. I'll dress my stormtrooper mannequin in it!

**--->>405<<---** · 11-29-2012, 06:48 AM

glad to see u made it thru buddy! get better!

hopefully now once recovered u will quit being such a slacker and get into the gym more and, as a result, get on here more!

**GirlyGymRat** · 11-29-2012, 07:03 AM

Great news!!! I don't like extra lumps neither

**Back In Black** · 11-29-2012, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by --->>405<<---

glad to see u made it thru buddy! get better!

hopefully now once recovered u will quit being such a slacker and get into the gym more and, as a result, get on here more!

Thanks mate. You're not joking I have been a slacker, this will be a massive motivation to get back in the gym, whenever that may be!

**Back In Black** · 11-29-2012, 07:11 AM

Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat

Great news!!! I don't like extra lumps neither

The bumps I had look much better on the fairer sex!

**Back In Black** · 11-29-2012, 10:03 AM

For the none squeamish...........

My Attempted Lean Bulk!-image-1220017615.jpg

**RaginCajun** · 11-29-2012, 10:58 AM

Glad to hear that ya surgery was a success!

Ready to see ya back in the gym soon!

**RaginCajun** · 11-29-2012, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by SteM

For the none squeamish...........

<img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=129782"/>

Why is the drain bag over your body? Doesn't seem like a good idea!

**Back In Black** · 11-29-2012, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00

Why is the drain bag over your body? Doesn't seem like a good idea!

I think it was for the picture only, to show the volume. I hope!!!

**RaginCajun** · 11-29-2012, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by SteM

I think it was for the picture only, to show the volume. I hope!!!

Gotcha.

Any hot nurses giving ya sponge bath?

**Back In Black** · 11-29-2012, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00

Gotcha.

Any hot nurses giving ya sponge bath?

A gentleman never tells!!!!

TBH, I suspect they were all over me whilst I was unconscious, they normally are!

**RaginCajun** · 11-29-2012, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by SteM

A gentleman never tells!!!!

TBH, I suspect they were all over me whilst I was unconscious, they normally are!

Ha!!!

**milky01623** · 11-29-2012, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by SteM

A gentleman never tells!!!!

TBH, I suspect they were all over me whilst I was unconscious, they normally are!

Dude you wish lmfao

**digsy1983** · 11-30-2012, 07:32 AM

glad to see your ok and your spirit is up!

p.s, what are you doing with a stormtrooper mannequin??

**Back In Black** · 11-30-2012, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by digsy1983

glad to see your ok and your spirit is up!

p.s, what are you doing with a stormtrooper mannequin??

It's armour I used to wear. Now I don't get much chance. Every home should have one!!!

**--->>405<<---** · 11-30-2012, 07:57 AM

do u have storm trooper (star wars) armour?? (u lucky dog!)

if so where did u get it?? i want some!

**Back In Black** · 11-30-2012, 08:06 AM

I wore it on the red carpet at the Episode III premiere in London. Amongst lots of other places.

There are different types of armour you can get. There's a USA version called the FX. It's oversized and fits more muscular and, erm, fatter people than the more authentic stuff. The helmets are waaay too big though, even if you got the armour you'd have to buy an accurate helmet. Fleabay is often the best outlet for armour.

You could come to London and get fitted out by the guy who designed the originals. Thats about 3x as much $ though!!!

**gbrice75** · 11-30-2012, 08:09 AM

Wow Stem, I had no idea you were going through all of this... my fault for not checking in on your thread much more often. Glad to hear it went well, wishing you a speedy recovery, then you get your ass back in there like a beast!!!