Protein intake while on steroids

**GearHeaded** · 01-22-2019, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

Gh...
For a bulk diet on an enhanced guy what do you recommend per lb?

1.5 grams per pound is plenty. you can even go lower then that if you need to make more room for carbs or for insulin usage. the idea that you hear about some of these supposed pros scarfing down 4 pounds of meat a day plus protein shakes and getting 600g of protein a day in the off season is probably exaggerated and if not, totally unnecessary especially while on cycle.

If your cutting , leaning out, or recomping, then I like to go a bit higher on the protein though for the thermic effects. if your coming off of a cycle, I also like to up the protein then as well . but if you in the middle of a cycle and a bulk then carbs should be your most important macro to focus on

**Obs** · 01-22-2019, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

1.5 grams per pound is plenty. you can even go lower then that if you need to make more room for carbs or for insulin usage. the idea that you hear about some of these supposed pros scarfing down 4 pounds of meat a day plus protein shakes and getting 600g of protein a day in the off season is probably exaggerated and if not, totally unnecessary especially while on cycle.

If your cutting , leaning out, or recomping, then I like to go a bit higher on the protein though for the thermic effects. if your coming off of a cycle, I also like to up the protein then as well . but if you in the middle of a cycle and a bulk then carbs should be your most important macro to focus on

Cool.
I will try shooting for that this next round.
My diet has been trash lately

**Chrisp83TRT** · 01-22-2019, 10:34 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

Cool.
I will try shooting for that this next round.
My diet has been trash lately

Fucking bread !!! And God damn ice cream and goodies damn it !!!

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**Obs** · 01-22-2019, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Chrisp83TRT

Fucking bread !!! And God damn ice cream and goodies damn it !!!

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I bet I have gotten 150 g of protein daily for a couple weeks or more.

**Chrisp83TRT** · 01-22-2019, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

I bet I have gotten 150 g of protein daily for a couple weeks or more.

I weigh in at around 162 now .. and I try and get in 200g of protein a day but I'll be honest and it may sound sad but I can't even afford it any more I basically add a scoop of unflavored bcaa's to each meal to make up for it .

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**Obs** · 01-22-2019, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Chrisp83TRT

I weigh in at around 162 now .. and I try and get in 200g of protein a day but I'll be honest and it may sound sad but I can't even afford it any more I basically add a scoop of unflavored bcaa's to each meal to make up for it .

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I know that pain.
Hopefully that will chaange soon

**GearHeaded** · 01-22-2019, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by Chrisp83TRT

I weigh in at around 162 now .. and I try and get in 200g of protein a day but I'll be honest and it may sound sad but I can't even afford it any more I basically add a scoop of unflavored bcaa's to each meal to make up for it .

aren't you relying on vegan sources of protein though ? I personally don't know how expensive pea protein and things like that are , but I just fed an entire family of 6 (and have some left over) for 7$ worth of chicken .

I also have a whole chicken I'm defrosting right now to put in the crock pot (it was $5) and it will feed me my protein meals for a day+ (I'm consuming 330g of protein per day)

**GearHeaded** · 01-22-2019, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Chrisp83TRT

I weigh in at around 162 now .. and I try and get in 200g of protein a day but I'll be honest and it may sound sad but I can't even afford it any more I basically add a scoop of unflavored bcaa's to each meal to make up for it .

drinking milk and eating chicken, to get in 200 grams pf protein per day , is about $3-4 per day (less then that if you find good sales or buy in bulk)

**Thors_Hammer** · 01-25-2019, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

1.5 grams per pound is plenty. you can even go lower then that if you need to make more room for carbs or for insulin usage. the idea that you hear about some of these supposed pros scarfing down 4 pounds of meat a day plus protein shakes and getting 600g of protein a day in the off season is probably exaggerated and if not, totally unnecessary especially while on cycle.

If your cutting , leaning out, or recomping, then I like to go a bit higher on the protein though for the thermic effects. if your coming off of a cycle, I also like to up the protein then as well . but if you in the middle of a cycle and a bulk then carbs should be your most important macro to focus on

Thank you so much for the thread. My wallet and my future gains thank you too.
I was thinking backwards (that being on cycle I could use more of what I ate so I needed to up it substantially and drop after PCT) So I was trying to reach as high as I could manage on protein... needless to say I will have much better results using your knowledge.

**JohnnyV85** · 01-27-2019, 01:00 AM

I'm just replying so I can find this thread later when I have the energy to read all this info. It's a gold mine

**CA_DXB_85** · 03-31-2019, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by Chrisp83TRT

Fucking bread !!! And God damn ice cream and goodies damn it !!!

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I could care less about bread but the mother fucking ice cream bro... I always say I will have just 1 scoop or 1 spoon... Then... Things go out of control lol
That's why I stopped buying it all together as it is easier to control when I have none in the freezer!

**CA_DXB_85** · 03-31-2019, 05:49 AM

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

1.5 grams per pound is plenty. you can even go lower then that if you need to make more room for carbs or for insulin usage. the idea that you hear about some of these supposed pros scarfing down 4 pounds of meat a day plus protein shakes and getting 600g of protein a day in the off season is probably exaggerated and if not, totally unnecessary especially while on cycle.

If your cutting , leaning out, or recomping, then I like to go a bit higher on the protein though for the thermic effects. if your coming off of a cycle, I also like to up the protein then as well . but if you in the middle of a cycle and a bulk then carbs should be your most important macro to focus on

Hi GH,
First of all, thanks for the post; great read!

Would you say 40/40/20 for p/c/f is good while off cycle? Or would change those around?

I am 74.2kg (163.2lbs) this AM and been trying to follow a 40/40/20 for some time now (https://tdeecalculator.net/result.ph...1.55&bf=13&f=2), i was 73kg when I used that link like 3 weeks ago as I got tired of making my own calculations. I end up eating like 180-200g protein (1 shake of 50g and if the day is so busy I might even have 2 shakes, but mostly 1) 300g+ carbs (white rice, lentils, sweet potatoes & whole grain rolled oats) and the rest in fats. Is that alright?

What about on cycle? 30/50/20? Or less fats more protein?

Thank u in advance

**Thebricklayer** · 03-31-2019, 06:08 AM

Great read, I needed this. Glad it got brought back up.

**kbunyan** · 04-02-2019, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Chrisp83TRT

I weigh in at around 162 now .. and I try and get in 200g of protein a day but I'll be honest and it may sound sad but I can't even afford it any more I basically add a scoop of unflavored bcaa's to each meal to make up for it .

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My local Walmart has turkey on sale for $4 small ones and $8 the big ones.

**charger69** · 04-02-2019, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

1.5 grams per pound is plenty. you can even go lower then that if you need to make more room for carbs or for insulin usage. the idea that you hear about some of these supposed pros scarfing down 4 pounds of meat a day plus protein shakes and getting 600g of protein a day in the off season is probably exaggerated and if not, totally unnecessary especially while on cycle.

If your cutting , leaning out, or recomping, then I like to go a bit higher on the protein though for the thermic effects. if your coming off of a cycle, I also like to up the protein then as well . but if you in the middle of a cycle and a bulk then carbs should be your most important macro to focus on

I understood that while on cycle you are more efficient so you did not need as much protein.
I also had issues some blood tests and I believe it was related to the amount of protein I was consuming. It was less than 1.5 g/ lb

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**Windex** · 04-05-2019, 02:09 PM

I think protein is overrated relative to how people value carbs fats and micro nutrients .

I fully understand the thermogenic properties of protein and realize for some people it makes sense to have high protein based on body type, metabolism, individual factors, but the cookie cutter guidelines are very silly to me.

Took me a long time to realize that quality of a macro in general is way more important than quantity provided the total calorie equation is in check. Would've slapped my young self eating 250-300g of protein per day.

Even though the science is not proven completely yet : organic, free range, pasture, and grass fed food makes a difference.

Got to my 240ish lbs before my accident with 200g or so of protein per day. Now on track to be in even better condition and eating approx 150g of Protein.