When you SHOULDN'T use AAS imho....

[Drummerboy]

^^^ yea, you can keep enough to look great, but genetics and good practices are a big part of it...

[Drummerboy]

Everyone on earth is guilty of atleast one of those requiremnets. I guess no one is ready than

They are guidelines to get the most out of your cycle and training, i thought that was easily understood. since you dont understand ill explain : You can get less gains if you like by not tweaking your habbits. You can train bad and eat sh1t, get fat and lose all your hard work, or get gains fast without injury, get off a cycle, keep enough to be happy and love it. Its a choice, im just sharing things that ive learned over the years to help a newer guy get the most out of his training and cycle. These simple ideas are not news to many vets... i felt like summing it up in a quick thread... and... your welcome

[aer_vlad]

**edit**

[Overhaulz]

I think they should make it so you must read through this entire thread and be quizzed before you can even view the rest of the forums.

Great post!!!

[BuffBuffalo]

This is a very good set of standards IMO. I was also told 21 and up was okay but who really can say for sure. Every person is different.

[Drummerboy]

thnx for the positive feedback... glad its helping some ppl

[Drummerboy]

bump

[Drummerboy]

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[BONE.CRUSHER]

hey bro

thats a good post im going to keep it bumped

[Drummerboy]

bump

[Lach01]

Great post wish i had this when i first started would have weight a lot longer than i did. Agree with everyone else who mention it should be sticky

[Drummerboy]

sticky's are hard to come by tho!

[Jeff1]

That was good bro.

[Drummerboy]

thnx again

[Drummerboy]

bump

[AthleticEngineering]

Good stuff. The overtraining is a rough one.

[shifty_git]

Bump - so very true.

[SECdominance]

good point here. was 22 when i started, but yeah i agree most people should wait tho. Especially of all these high schoolers takin Dbol only cycles and giving AAS a bad name

[Drummerboy]

yea... too many kids are messin around when they shouldnt even be touching the stuff

[Drummerboy]

bump

[stoney_creek]

this should be a mandatory post for new members. woulda saved me time and money.

Bump

[40plusnewbie]

What about the use of LR3 IGF (without AAS) with less than 2 years training as long as you have the other stuff in check?

[Drummerboy]

Ive never used anything else... no slin, igf, growth. I do believe that even with these you should be prepared for it by getting educated on proper use and how to get the most out of them. Too bad tho, i cant advise on this.

~DB~

[MR_T]

bump you should also add something about not buying online just speaking from experience

[Drummerboy]

Hmmm thats true... will add somethin

[Big]

sticky's are hard to come by tho!

Not that hard, sticky it is. Excellent post.

[Drummerboy]

Thnx Big, hope the new guys follow these tips as best they can ;-) yea i know, its tough to get them all perfect... but aiming high is the only way to get there...

~DB~

[39+1]

I only use what i can fill in a 6cc syringe actually its a turkey baster i modified.

[Drummerboy]

lmao

[kodaghost]

hey can someone help me ive been lifting for 6 years i am 21 and ive taken supplements but am ready to take it to the next level im at a 180lbs and am wanting to get to 210-220 im lookin at buyin the "newbie cycle" its - * Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ weekly
* Week 1 to 10: 25 mg provimed daily
* Week 13 - 40mg Tamoximed+ 100mg clomid daily
* Week 14 - 30mg Tamoximed+ 50mg clomid daily
* Week 15 - 20mg Tamoximed+ 50mg clomid daily
* CLENBUTEROL FOR PCT
can anyone tell me if this is a smart cycle and will it get me to my goal weight at the same time leaving me ripped and cut thanx alot

[ottomaddox]

Hey noob, start your own thread! Go do some more research as your proposed cycle is terrible, got any Test? 10 weeks of EQ is a waste @ 400mg's per week, research and then you'll know why?

hey can someone help me ive been lifting for 6 years i am 21 and ive taken supplements but am ready to take it to the next level im at a 180lbs and am wanting to get to 210-220 im lookin at buyin the "newbie cycle" its - * Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ weekly
* Week 1 to 10: 25 mg provimed daily
* Week 13 - 40mg Tamoximed+ 100mg clomid daily
* Week 14 - 30mg Tamoximed+ 50mg clomid daily
* Week 15 - 20mg Tamoximed+ 50mg clomid daily
* CLENBUTEROL FOR PCT
can anyone tell me if this is a smart cycle and will it get me to my goal weight at the same time leaving me ripped and cut thanx alot

[*RAGE*]

True way to take the time to explaine it......

[YourFace]

Hey im newq to the forum (sorry obut my english, im from Costa Rica). I´v been doing some reserch on steroids and decided to try them.
my stats:
6ft
76kg before starting cycle, 80kg now. (im in the middle of a cycle)
21yrs old
been training science 16yrs old, almost non stop

Im in a middle of a cycle and I would like to know what you guys think. I did A LOT of reserch on each of this compounds im taking and I know exacly how they work.
My cicle is a deca /Dbol cycle. Th reson I chose this was because its a classic prooven to work cycle, and besides the only source that I know and I know its legit, diddnt have any test.
My cycle is basicly 400mg of deca/week (2 doses/week) and 30mg Dbol/Day(3 doses/day) for one month. I know its short but I want to take it easy.
Im taking also 10mg of Nolvadex /day to block estrogen receptors and mostly to avoid gyno. on mu PCT i plan to use just Nolvadex since its my first cycle and Ive already spent lots of $.
I will post my results on the proper part of the forum when Im done. Ill apreciate your opinions. THANKS

[BUYLONGTERM]

Hey im newq to the forum (sorry obut my english, im from Costa Rica). I´v been doing some reserch on steroids and decided to try them.
my stats:
6ft
76kg before starting cycle, 80kg now. (im in the middle of a cycle)
21yrs old
been training science 16yrs old, almost non stop

Im in a middle of a cycle and I would like to know what you guys think. I did A LOT of reserch on each of this compounds im taking and I know exacly how they work.
My cicle is a deca /Dbol cycle. Th reson I chose this was because its a classic prooven to work cycle, and besides the only source that I know and I know its legit, diddnt have any test.
My cycle is basicly 400mg of deca/week (2 doses/week) and 30mg Dbol/Day(3 doses/day) for one month. I know its short but I want to take it easy.
Im taking also 10mg of Nolvadex /day to block estrogen receptors and mostly to avoid gyno. on mu PCT i plan to use just Nolvadex since its my first cycle and Ive already spent lots of $.
I will post my results on the proper part of the forum when Im done. Ill apreciate your opinions. THANKS

Start your own thread, but that cycle is HORRIBLE!!!!

Welcome to AR

[YourFace]

Start your own thread, but that cycle is HORRIBLE!!!!

Welcome to AR

why do you think its horrible??
in my first week I gained 3,6KG and lowered my %fat from 9,9 to 8,5... it seems to be working fine for me... but I appreceate your opinion

[Drummerboy]

start a thread, however, i will say that TEST TEST TEST. unless of course you like : no sex drive, lethargy, and losing all your gains. This is likely what will happen, although some lucky ppl dont get shut down too hard.

[muhammad1185]

great post

[creed33]

_25.

[CAMboy]

Very good thread Drummer Boy!

[packetninja]

At what age does your natural test production start to slow down? I am sure this is different by genetics but I am sure there is an average age where you don't produce as much as you once did.