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07-12-2005, 12:26 AM #161
I was looking for a post like this, cuz this is my first cycle, and it consists of 500/wk of sust. I have been dieting for 8 weeks, and back lifting again seriously for 5 weeks. I thought I would see more results by now, although I also just started 30mg/day of dbol . The pain from the sust, and the lack of results so far has me wanting to switch to enanthate . whatta you guys think??
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07-21-2005, 09:53 AM #162
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07-21-2005, 09:57 AM #163
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07-21-2005, 10:28 AM #164
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I'll be stacking sus with dbol , and I'd like to add winny to that. I've heard different opinions on winny, but I'm hoping that it'll help me lean up, burn some fat with my cardio a lot faster? I obviously need some advice, my abs are so relaxed that I look fat, but there's really not that much fat, just totally relaxed abs. I haven't cycled for 5 years, and I disgusted with the way I look. HELP!! steer me right bros!
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07-21-2005, 11:21 AM #165
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ok, since it's been years, I'm considering myself a newby. Goals: Burn fat, rebuild and define, rip it up. I'll be doing intense cardio, heavy little reps, then light and lots of reps. sus250 twice a week (500mgs wk), 15mgs dbol daily. I'd like to add winny daily, having trouble finding it for my horse. Heard mixed reviews lately about the winny, but when I used it years ago, I got hard, lean and big (used it with sus and deca ). I'm counting on the sus to kick in with my cardio and burn body fat 10 times faster than normal. Am I dreaming? I obviously need you guys to take me under your wing and advise me like a big bro would do, with all due respect and gratitude. I want to get big again, proud of my body which is sloppy right now. I've heard that muscles have memory and will get back to big quickly, is this true, or another pipe dream? I know from reading these threads there's lots of cool dedicated bros that know their sh@#, so please give me some tips and advice. I want in! Peace
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07-21-2005, 12:26 PM #166
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Its been 2 years since I worked out. I was about 192, 5'7, 6%-7% bodyfat and the only roid i ever used was a cycle of winny tabs. I let everything go and I am starting my first cycle now. I weigh 209 with 15% bf. I know there is muscle memory because I filled out pretty good. I have a bad temper, I get headaches everyday, in the two weeks of the sus250 (500mg week). Ive been training my ass off and in a way, i feel like i am cheating with this stuff...but oh well. Good luck man. Jay Cutler is comin into the store this saturday...so i gotta show him up hehe
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07-21-2005, 12:28 PM #167
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Originally Posted by rhs
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07-22-2005, 09:23 AM #168
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headaches
so what's giving you those headaches bro?
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07-22-2005, 09:33 AM #169
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burn this spare and fix this relaxed ab
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07-22-2005, 09:34 AM #170
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Originally Posted by Avenged7x
Peace
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07-22-2005, 09:37 AM #171
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Originally Posted by Artiken
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07-22-2005, 11:39 AM #172
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Originally Posted by rhs
I am taking 10mg of nolva cuz my nipples are tender when i touch them. I'm not sure if its a good feeling or not...but i find myself touching them oftenjk
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07-22-2005, 07:15 PM #173
Originally Posted by Artiken
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07-22-2005, 07:30 PM #174
Originally Posted by Avenged7x
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07-26-2005, 03:29 PM #175
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Originally Posted by Jsik98
I dont feel like i am cheating anymore. I still cant poke myself, i have to have my friend do it
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07-27-2005, 10:06 AM #176
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[B]whats the best way to stack test250 and EQ200?
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07-27-2005, 05:03 PM #177
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08-03-2005, 03:18 PM #178
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I'm currently on my 7th wk of sust250 @ 500 mgs a wk. I do EOD shots of a 1/2 cc and have went from 207 to 233 lbs so far. I have a feeling I'll hit 240 before I'm out. Side effects are minimal and I feel great. the last part of wk 5 and begining of wk 6 showed the biggest improvement with a 10lb increase in weight. Strength hasn't sky rocketed but I have gotten noticable stronger. It was awesome to see the reaction from my freinds who hadn't seen me since wk 3. All 3 of them were in shock, saying "DUDE, you fuc.king balloned", "You look like a rock" & my favorite from my buddy who was doing 1000 mg of sust a wk with promibolan "I'm jealous, your got more in 6 wks then I got my whole cycle".
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08-07-2005, 06:31 AM #179
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Well, my experience(extensive use) with sustenon 250 has been very good at one cc every fifth day. Science may say otherwise, but I have had the best sex drive using this way. Cypionate put more size on mg for mg, and Enanthate falls short(to my body) than Sustenon. Propionate made me strong without gaining as much size. I always stacked it (sus) with Laurabolin (longer acting Deca ) and got fantastic results. It used to be cheap in Mexico(Redi-ject was $2.55) as well as Laura($65- 50ml, 50 mg/cc). That is the main reason for using; I would probably pick Cyp as the best overall "test" gainer.
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08-07-2005, 12:26 PM #180
week 7 @ 500/ started to show me results.... havent gained much weight. And Im not looking to. gained I think 12 lbs. Like my first post said, Stacked 35-40 mg dbol in weeks 3-6. didnt do ****all for me. coulda been fake though. weeks 6-now,(8) been doing 100mg ED drol. looking a bit more defined now. happy with the results thus far. gonna go 6 more weeks. Sust still hurts, but I like it alot. Pain is getting way easier. only last a day or so now... And I find sust is awesome for the sex drive. Another fine reason to stick with it!!!!
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08-09-2005, 12:54 AM #181
Originally Posted by Avenged7x
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08-21-2005, 10:34 PM #182
Okay, i have taken in all the arguments here and believe that everyone has made valuable comments. I am going to jump on my first cycle but i'm confused, experienced AAS users have told me jump on the sus you will get better results than enenthate (which is what i was planning to use first 500mg of it) and i have listened to them and am planning to get sus now instead of enenthate. I jus want to know what people think coz this post has put me on the fence again. Should i stick with the enenthate at 500mg or go with the sus at 500mg both with two injections a week. I am willing to do trial and error but also don't wanna waste the money on the sus.
Big AnF G
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11-18-2005, 03:58 AM #183
good read
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11-18-2005, 08:52 AM #184
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I use sustanon 260 from Quality Vet stacked with dbol and deca . The first week, I had a hard area deep in my glute for 3 days or so. The second week, I increased to 2cc of sus (I wanted to make sure it was good stuff first). By that night, I had a very hard area in my upper glute about the size of my hand. I did that on Monday and now it is Friday and it has not gone away. It has diminished some, but it appears that the hard area has moved closer to the surface and is now rashy and itchy. Still the size of my hand, but much less pain. What the hell is it? 20 guage needle can't cause all of that can it? Benzyl Alcohol reaction? I need help. If not gone on Monday, I will have to go to the doctor.
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01-23-2006, 01:56 AM #185
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Cost
One of the big points made early on in this thread was the cost factor. Everyone keeps saying that sus is expensive and enth is cheap. What I'm about to say is a fact but perhaps not a relative one. All the price are real but since most can't go to thialand to get them.
I was in Thailand recently and bought and used sus over there.
sus was 300 baht for a box of 3 Karachi
enth was 2300 bhat for a box of 20 schering
enth was 1700 bhat for a box of 20 local thai
basically they cost about the same!!! At least in thailand.
When i got back I had a friend tell me that sus was cheap here too. but I wouldn't know about that. It's illeagal here.
Ok when me and my cousin took sus we did it 3 1/2 days apart. Sundays at 9am and wensdays at 9pm. Actually all the roids we took were done this way. It was our first and only cycle.
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01-23-2006, 08:46 AM #186
I have made several cycles with 1,000 mgrs Sust per week (REAL by ORGANON) and I have had very nice results.....
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02-10-2006, 07:18 PM #187
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so if im doing a cycle with only sust and i am starting with 500mgs a week shot twice, up to 750 shot ETD for a few weeks then a taper down over 14 weeks total what am i 2 expect in the way of side effects, effectivness of twice a week shot then ETD shot? and overall effectiveness? im very limited with variety!!! but have 30 amps of sust. have 2 use it
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02-15-2006, 09:58 AM #188
How would you cycle Sustaject
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How would you recommend dosing it? 4-5 injections a week of 100 mg?
I've already run a Var cycle, and thought Sust would be a good combo for 2nd cycle with Var.
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03-16-2006, 06:33 PM #189
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sust has 176mg of test in one ml
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03-22-2006, 06:13 AM #190
I wish I would have had read this thread before I ordered my sus, but the what's done is done. Based on the info here, I'm gonna do 250 twice a week for 500 (this is my first cycle, so I don't won't to go above 500). I also already have Clomid for PCT. My question is this: At a dosage of 500/week should I have some nolva or whatever in case of gyno symptoms or is this too low a dosage to be concerned?
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03-30-2006, 03:51 PM #191
Anyone?
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03-31-2006, 02:55 PM #192
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yeah, id get nolva. why risk?
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04-01-2006, 10:43 AM #193
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04-21-2006, 08:09 AM #194
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I am about to start a cycle of Sustanol and Deca . This will be my 1st cycle. Is this ok to start on. My goal is to gain 20lbs but at teh same time stay lean. I am taking 1cc of teh Sus and 1cc of Deca 300 once a week. The sus was mixed with a stright test as well so it is a mix of 5 test's. I am looking to avoid the bloat look and this is the mix the guy gave me. What should I do. Thanks for teh help guys
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04-21-2006, 10:29 AM #195
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Hi Girgy
don't think its a very good first cycle. sus should be inject alot more than once a week. What is the overall mg/ml of the test after the sus has being mixed would recommend 500mg/ml.
I gained over 20lbs on my first cycle. It was two injection per week of test enanthate at 250mg/ml for 10 weeks with 30mg of dbol per day for the first 4 weeks. used nolva during the cycle to limit bloating and for pct.
do a bit more research, some good starter cycles by themudman in ANABOLIC STEROIDS - QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
hope to goes well bro
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04-21-2006, 11:10 AM #196
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Not sure what the mix is for total. Right now I am taking the Sus 250 and test Enathate mix alone. I haev only taken 1 shot so far. My buddy just got the deca 300 and said I should combine them. This is my 1st cycle so not sure if it is too much. Where can I get some Nolva? How many times do I inject that a week??? Thanks for teh help man!!!!
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04-21-2006, 02:03 PM #197
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Have a good look about the site, lots of good info on PCT. Yeah you can mix deca and sus to get good gains just don't think you it needed for your first cycle. IMO. Only injecting once a week with sus will cause bad peaks as two of its esters (test propionate and test phenylpropionate) have short half lives of 4.5 days.
Nolva is in tablet form. Think more research would be helpful for you. Try looking on Steroid Profiles then Nolvadex and Sustanon -250. Look up Deca and test Enanthate . Gives alot of basic info including doses.
If you don't mind me asking how old are you?
Hope that helps mate.
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04-21-2006, 02:55 PM #198
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Originally Posted by The Iron Game
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04-22-2006, 02:40 PM #199
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The Nolva that this site sells. Is that good stuff? I see it says not for human consumption???? Should I go with this or go with tabs?
My line-up looks liek this
1 shot od Super test and test Enthete every 5 days
1 shot of Deca 300 once a week
When shoudl I take the Nolva
Thanks for teh help guys. I am 29 by the way.. 6'1" 210lbs @ 14% BF
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