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    finding hcg

    I have been getting hcg from ********** and they no longer carry it, I need another place if someone could point me in the right direction it would be appreciated, and how do you test hcg yourself.

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    yes cost to much

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    how does it work, the prescription has been sitting unfilled at the pharmacy, do I have empower pharmacy call my pharmacy or does my compounding pharmacy send the prescription to them, this pharmacy my dr likes, just don't know how the process works if its already been sent to this pharmacy ive just never had it filled

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    Hey mate I can tell you how it works in Australia and from the info im seeing maybe its happening in the states to.
    The manufactures of Pregnyl if that's the brand we are talking about, Merck Sharp & Dohme are trying to stop it being used buy body builders or anyone else who is using steroids to bring back Testicular function, they claim and I got this info directly from them, that this is not what they intended there product to be used for.
    Hence they are restricting supply to all pharmacy's who can not provide a legitimate reason for its dispense. The only reason they are willing to supply your pharmacist is if he says its for fertility issues.

    It works like this,
    1 Get your self a script from your doctor. This is the easy bit.
    2 Present script to the pharmacist.
    3 He needs to ring Merck and ask for it, they will ask him what its being used for and may even ask if its being dispensed to a Male or Female, this is where it gets tricky, he needs to tell them its being used for fertility issues and if he can avoid saying its for a man you stand a better chance although its not impossible.
    4 Merck give him a number which they record, he then takes this authority number and gives it to his drug supplier.
    5 Drug supplier takes authority number and returns it Merck and they match it to the pharmacy and there records, if all is well pregynl is dispensed.
    6 Drug supplier delivers pregnyl to pharmacy and your script is filled, this process needs to be done for each time Pregnyl is ordered.

    Here in Australia its almost impossible to get through legitimate channels as it being tightened up on a monthly basis, unless you are using it for the purpose of fertility.

    You may also find that the pharmacist needs to keep your script as sometimes Merck will want to record who is using it and in what amounts. I hope this is not the case where you are but I fear it maybe, all Pregnyl is made in the Netherlands so this approach may soon be global. At the moment this only applies to Pregnyl, there is another brand we have here called Ovidrel which is more expensive and according to some not as good, I myself can't confirm its efficiency as I only have second have experience with it.

    Good luck with your search and I hope this info at least helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stirated View Post
    Hey mate I can tell you how it works in Australia and from the info im seeing maybe its happening in the states to.
    The manufactures of Pregnyl if that's the brand we are talking about, Merck Sharp & Dohme are trying to stop it being used buy body builders or anyone else who is using steroids to bring back Testicular function, they claim and I got this info directly from them, that this is not what they intended there product to be used for.
    Hence they are restricting supply to all pharmacy's who can not provide a legitimate reason for its dispense. The only reason they are willing to supply your pharmacist is if he says its for fertility issues.
    Sorry but this makes absolutely no sense at all. Drug companies are about the most greedy companies out there. They couldn't care less how people use their products as long as they sell. Look at pain meds as a prime example. Numerous studies show how they've been over-prescribed but it's such a huge industry, not one drug company has done a thing to try and fix the problem.

    I won't deny it seems some docs may not want to prescribe HCG but that's not because of anything the drug companies have said/done about not wanting it to be used for anything except for fertility issues.

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    Yup. Checked yesterday....if you are purchasing from an overseas pharm, it's doing a disappearing act.

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    There are tons of research sites. I get mine for less than $20 a month

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    that's great jasondd1 where I cant find it and mine doesn't sell anymore as I stated in the beginning. and yes even my pharmacy charges an arm and a leg for real pregnyl probably because its hard to get, they offer compounded hcg in injection or troches for under the tounge, but they were still mor than the place I was using

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    Just tell your pharmacy where you want them to transfer it to and they will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caira1074 View Post
    that's great jasondd1 where I cant find it and mine doesn't sell anymore as I stated in the beginning. and yes even my pharmacy charges an arm and a leg for real pregnyl probably because its hard to get, they offer compounded hcg in injection or troches for under the tounge, but they were still mor than the place I was using
    pm me

    I stand corrected looks like my place isn't selling it anymore either. Dam
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    Quote Originally Posted by NEFLRick View Post
    Sorry but this makes absolutely no sense at all. Drug companies are about the most greedy companies out there. They couldn't care less how people use their products as long as they sell. Look at pain meds as a prime example. Numerous studies show how they've been over-prescribed but it's such a huge industry, not one drug company has done a thing to try and fix the problem.

    I won't deny it seems some docs may not want to prescribe HCG but that's not because of anything the drug companies have said/done about not wanting it to be used for anything except for fertility issues.
    Well you would be wrong my friend as this is something I know a lot about from personal experience, as I said its the case in Australia and I was only offering a opinion on why it might be happening else where.

    If you choose not to believe what I say then that's up to you but I've been researching this for a long time and have personally spoken with merck myself. Its 100% correct. Keep in mind we are talking only about the brand Pregnyl.

    As for pain meds try and get yourself any amount of Oxycontin without good reason. I think you will find its heavily regulated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stirated View Post
    Well you would be wrong my friend as this is something I know a lot about from personal experience, as I said its the case in Australia and I was only offering a opinion on why it might be happening else where.

    If you choose not to believe what I say then that's up to you but I've been researching this for a long time and have personally spoken with merck myself. Its 100% correct. Keep in mind we are talking only about the brand Pregnyl.

    As for pain meds try and get yourself any amount of Oxycontin without good reason. I think you will find its heavily regulated.
    I can't speak for Australia but I assure you, it's quite easy to get pain meds here in the States.

    I'm not saying some people may not have a problem getting a certain brand of HCG , what I'm saying is I don't believe (for a second) it's because Merck--or any other drug company for that matter--woke up with a conscience. I'd need to see hard proof for me to even think about believing it. Drug companies are greedy, that is a fact. They will do whatever they can to sell their wares.

    Come to the States, there is a weight loss clinic on every corner in some areas--certainly here in Florida--and they ALL use HCG. I don't doubt you may be having difficulty finding it but I'm thinking it may be a problem with supply of that particular brand rather than as a whole.

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    Mate well you know better than me then because I have spoken with them, and it was the very reason the lady stated to me on the phone, now im not going to get into a contest about who knows who but I can assure you when I say Merck has stopped supply of Pregynl for the purpose of restoring testicular function after a steroid cycle its true in Australia and im sure it will follow suit soon enough.

    I very rarely get on here and comment unless I know what im talking about and trust me on this I do.
    Weather Merck pulled it because of a conscience is irrelevant, the fact is its happening here and if your having trouble sourcing Pregynl made buy Merck than this could be a reason.

    If you have other options there then that's fine good luck to you.

    Buy the way didn't they pull Dbol because only athletes were using it, surely there was a huge market there for it.

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    I've been purchasing mine from overseas since I began treatment. I use two different suppliers If you'd like the contact sites, just p.m. me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stirated View Post
    Mate well you know better than me then because I have spoken with them, and it was the very reason the lady stated to me on the phone, now im not going to get into a contest about who knows who but I can assure you when I say Merck has stopped supply of Pregynl for the purpose of restoring testicular function after a steroid cycle its true in Australia and im sure it will follow suit soon enough.

    I very rarely get on here and comment unless I know what im talking about and trust me on this I do.
    Weather Merck pulled it because of a conscience is irrelevant, the fact is its happening here and if your having trouble sourcing Pregynl made buy Merck than this could be a reason.

    If you have other options there then that's fine good luck to you.

    Buy the way didn't they pull Dbol because only athletes were using it, surely there was a huge market there for it.
    I'm not saying you don't know what you're talking about nor am I saying you didn't speak with someone at Merck. Honestly, I can't comment on what's happening in Australia since I've only been there once--12 years ago.

    All I'm saying is, I doubt very seriously, any drug company would stop selling something like HCG at this point--at least here in the US for a few reasons:

    -they are greedy bastards and will sell anything they can legally sell and as much of it as they can.
    -HCG is being used by a lot more people in weight loss clinics than by body builders.
    -there is no outcry asking for them to NOT sell it.
    -I'm not aware of any studies showing it to be a dangerous drug which is harming/killing people.

    Could be totally different over there (no, not trying to be sarcastic either) but I know how it is over here. When they can get away with pushing opiates down peoples' throats causing more people to go into drug rehab than any other drug, I don't see them getting a conscience with HCG here in the US. Again, YMMV on this one.

    I certainly didn't mean to offend you, so please accept my apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEFLRick View Post
    I'm not saying you don't know what you're talking about nor am I saying you didn't speak with someone at Merck. Honestly, I can't comment on what's happening in Australia since I've only been there once--12 years ago.

    All I'm saying is, I doubt very seriously, any drug company would stop selling something like HCG at this point--at least here in the US for a few reasons:

    -they are greedy bastards and will sell anything they can legally sell and as much of it as they can.
    -HCG is being used by a lot more people in weight loss clinics than by body builders.
    -there is no outcry asking for them to NOT sell it.
    -I'm not aware of any studies showing it to be a dangerous drug which is harming/killing people.

    Could be totally different over there (no, not trying to be sarcastic either) but I know how it is over here. When they can get away with pushing opiates down peoples' throats causing more people to go into drug rehab than any other drug, I don't see them getting a conscience with HCG here in the US. Again, YMMV on this one.

    I certainly didn't mean to offend you, so please accept my apologies.
    All good mate no offences taken, lets move on so we don,t hijack OP thread.

    Cheers

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