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    Jacked on Trt

    Taking a break from gear and doing doctor prescribe Trt, has anyone stayed or gotten jacked on Trt? I know some you tube guys that claim it but I’m looking to real people here to give me some inspiration, last cycle wore on me and I’m getting a bit old to push the envelope
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    Cant comment on your question, but out of curiosity if you don't mind sharing, ow old are you and how did it wear on you? Physically? Like joints hurting and such?
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    Question is, what do you consider “jacked”

    I have only been on trt(just a tad above - 150mg of test weekly) + some var here & there & a little Proviron

    I’m still 220 & look “ok” - def not as hard & cut tho. But, my diet sucks - yet, my strength is as good as ever

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    Me from last week. . . I try my best to keep somewhat intact

    And, yeah - how old r u?
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    From what i see on youtube, the guys who were bodybuilding and cycling peds before, still maintain decent size just on trt. The muscle memory,accumulated micronuclei , years of training expirience combined with unnaturally stable and high test levels and good diet+training seems to work good.
    Greg doucette still pretty jacked on 140mg. Larry wheels on trt still looking like he jumped out of a marvel movie. Seth feroce also looking insane. Ofcourse these guys are also pros and have insane genetics to begin with, but still
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Question is, what do you consider “jacked”

    I have only been on trt(just a tad above - 150mg of test weekly) + some var here & there & a little Proviron

    I’m still 220 & look “ok” - def not as hard & cut tho. But, my diet sucks - yet, my strength is as good as ever

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    Me from last week. . . I try my best to keep somewhat intact

    And, yeah - how old r u?
    Looking good man 220 with biceps vein and abs... i need not say more
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    Quote Originally Posted by s1nc1ty View Post
    From what i see on youtube, the guys who were bodybuilding and cycling peds before, still maintain decent size just on trt. The muscle memory,accumulated micronuclei , years of training expirience combined with unnaturally stable and high test levels and good diet+training seems to work good.
    Greg doucette still pretty jacked on 140mg. Larry wheels on trt still looking like he jumped out of a marvel movie. Seth feroce also looking insane. Ofcourse these guys are also pros and have insane genetics to begin with, but still

    I don’t believe anyone at all on what they use

    But, some - man, genetics are a real thing. My one friend who hasn’t touched juice in years is still my size. It’s mind boggling that I take this that much just to keep up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    I don’t believe anyone at all on what they use

    But, some - man, genetics are a real thing. My one friend who hasn’t touched juice in years is still my size. It’s mind boggling that I take this that much just to keep up.
    True. You never know whos lieing whos not but i believe theyr reasoning behind it. You cant just blast gear forever, the high BP and all the other shit can get you eventually. In estonia we have a saying that every goat has his michaelmas day (its the day the goat gets slaughtered). It means that you will get whats coming to you eventually.These people have kids,wife, families etc and if they wanna be around long term to take care of them and they already have a decade or more of blasting gear behind them, they have to start making more health concious decisions one day

    Besides. If these guys been open about theyr usage in the past, why start lieing now. Its possible ofc. but the way they explain it and everything, makes sense to me atleast
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    Quote Originally Posted by s1nc1ty View Post
    From what i see on youtube, the guys who were bodybuilding and cycling peds before, still maintain decent size just on trt. The muscle memory,accumulated micronuclei , years of training expirience combined with unnaturally stable and high test levels and good diet+training seems to work good.
    Greg doucette still pretty jacked on 140mg. Larry wheels on trt still looking like he jumped out of a marvel movie. Seth feroce also looking insane. Ofcourse these guys are also pros and have insane genetics to begin with, but still
    Bossman; Seth Feroce and Larry Wheels are on WAY more than TRT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Question is, what do you consider “jacked”

    I have only been on trt(just a tad above - 150mg of test weekly) + some var here & there & a little Proviron

    I’m still 220 & look “ok” - def not as hard & cut tho. But, my diet sucks - yet, my strength is as good as ever

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    Me from last week. . . I try my best to keep somewhat intact

    And, yeah - how old r u?
    Your physique is definitely respectable Bro, I will be 47 next month but what you showed me and the strength comment makes me feel better
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion0922 View Post
    Bossman; Seth Feroce and Larry Wheels are on WAY more than TRT.
    Yeah Brother Seth Force is definitely a guy I follow and I have the most confidence in him actually taking what he says he’s taking

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    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    Cant comment on your question, but out of curiosity if you don't mind sharing, ow old are you and how did it wear on you? Physically? Like joints hurting and such?
    My Brother I will be 47 in July and it just felt different this time got some headaches, swelling in feet and joints, prostate swelling, dizziness, tired etc, I think at some point you just know that your taking risks and if something happens it’s on you because you know better, and my significant other is really encouraging me to get straightened out too…
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion0922 View Post
    Bossman; Seth Feroce and Larry Wheels are on WAY more than TRT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Testie View Post
    My Brother I will be 47 in July and it just felt different this time got some headaches, swelling in feet and joints, prostate swelling, dizziness, tired etc, I think at some point you just know that your taking risks and if something happens it’s on you because you know better, and my significant other is really encouraging me to get straightened out too…
    How's your blood pressure?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Testie View Post
    Yeah Brother Seth Force is definitely a guy I follow and I have the most confidence in him actually taking what he says he’s taking
    Well, its a fact. You need aas to support extra growth and maintaining that growth. Its just facts. Trt is just a healthy testosterone level, which could be 800-1000. On 150mg a week i got down below 220. And I didnt like that bc I am a taller build but also, yes you could still looked jacked to average man with the physique you have built over the years.

    Thing is, when you go back to just trt you’re fighting just to keep whatever tissue you have put on over the cycles. Forget about gaining anything from my personal experience like said, was fighting not to lose anything i think 212 was my lowest

    If you feel its time to let off the gas, it’s probably time. When you get on just trt and cruise you’re body is gonna do what its gonna do you can try and push the food and train hard to get the best out of it but mostly it’s genetics imho. Just depends on if you feel big enough or not
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    I don’t believe anyone at all on what they use

    But, some - man, genetics are a real thing. My one friend who hasn’t touched juice in years is still my size. It’s mind boggling that I take this that much just to keep up.
    i agree, guys lie all the time about what gear theyre taking and at what dosages. and i hear ya on the genetics issue, some guys are just lucky in that regard while other need to resort to more extreme measures and still wont get anywhere near as swole as others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    Just depends on if you feel big enough or not
    in my mind nothing will ever be good enough, no matter how many blast cycles i get in me.


    that being said on the thread topic, ive been on TRT for several years and blasting 8 week cycles between doctor visits. ive managed to keep the majority of my gains from the blasting. no intention of stopping any time soon. ill have to find out what happens when i eventually stop blasting and stay on TRT, but not looking forward to it.
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    Most I can say is that I workout way harder, feel way more sore & still look a bit flabbier

    It is what it is - I’m really trying to stay off the heavy gear runs. But, it’s not that easy - this is about my high point on a crappier diet. Soooo, yeah - it’s an inner turmoil a bit. . . Does it really matter? This was on decent dose of tren , test & mast that I have been running for months if not years straight prior to my brain hemorrhage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scorpion0922 View Post
    How's your blood pressure?
    Blood pressure is good but I also take a baby aspirin everyday which used to be recommended by cardiologist but I think they’ve changed their stance since

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    Never ever big enough Cuz lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Most I can say is that I workout way harder, feel way more sore & still look a bit flabbier

    It is what it is - I’m really trying to stay off the heavy gear runs. But, it’s not that easy - this is about my high point on a crappier diet. Soooo, yeah - it’s an inner turmoil a bit. . . Does it really matter? This was on decent dose of tren , test & mast that I have been running for months if not years straight prior to my brain hemorrhage

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    I would say a brain hemorrhage is something that you are very fortunate to survive so thank God for that, I think if theoretically you can have your test at your natural levels in your 20’s there is some potential to look good if diet and workout is on point so I’m going to do what I can with what I got, thank goodness you got a 2nd chance
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    Quote Originally Posted by s1nc1ty View Post
    I actually watched that Seth Force interview and that’s actually when I started following him, he has repeatedly stated he’s only on 200 mg a week, however I did watch a video where he followed up that statement with he was on 10iu of somatropin daily as well but honestly I follow some tested body builders that are in good shape all be it they are smaller but still pretty impressive

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    I like Greg Doucette as well, Retired pro that not longer runs anything other than trt doses. He has some great videos and interviews with other in the industry.

    Has a good one with seth feroce as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Testie View Post
    Blood pressure is good but I also take a baby aspirin everyday which used to be recommended by cardiologist but I think they’ve changed their stance since
    I do the baby asprin too.

    Maybe a break will do you good. See how you feel after a little time off?
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    Everyone should take time off several times per year. Both from cycling AND from training. Taking a couple weeks off from training is needed both mentally and physically. You're not going to lose anything in two weeks. If you go on vacation don't lift, dammit! Don't waste your time looking for a gym and tiring yourself out when you should be relaxing and having fun with your family/friends. Use it as a rest week.

    When it comes to aging and aas use, just get smarter about what you use. It's not a difficult thing to do. Gains can still be made without using amounts that requiring other drugs (ancillaries) to counteract the sides from the initial drugs. Better choices, lower amounts, improved choices in the kitchen and proper rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Everyone should take time off several times per year. Both from cycling AND from training. Taking a couple weeks off from training is needed both mentally and physically. You're not going to lose anything in two weeks. If you go on vacation don't lift, dammit! Don't waste your time looking for a gym and tiring yourself out when you should be relaxing and having fun with your family/friends. Use it as a rest week.

    When it comes to aging and aas use, just get smarter about what you use. It's not a difficult thing to do. Gains can still be made without using amounts that requiring other drugs (ancillaries) to counteract the sides from the initial drugs. Better choices, lower amounts, improved choices in the kitchen and proper rest.
    Words of wisdom right here!
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Most I can say is that I workout way harder, feel way more sore & still look a bit flabbier

    It is what it is - I’m really trying to stay off the heavy gear runs. But, it’s not that easy - this is about my high point on a crappier diet. Soooo, yeah - it’s an inner turmoil a bit. . . Does it really matter? This was on decent dose of tren , test & mast that I have been running for months if not years straight prior to my brain hemorrhage

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    lookin pretty damn swole dude. and yea it is an inner turmoil. make smart decisions for the long term, or blitz hard at those extreme and unrealistic goals.

    its easy to get caught up in distorted self perception, with the mentality i want it right now. and when i get those results, i want more.


    Quote Originally Posted by teedoff View Post
    I like Greg Doucette as well, Retired pro that not longer runs anything other than trt doses. He has some great videos and interviews with other in the industry.

    Has a good one with seth feroce as well.

    greg doucette has alot of great videos, same with more plates more dates, vigorous steve and anabolic doc. i watched the majority of all of their AAS profile videos.
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    To paint a picture, how i see it, being jacked as fuck is like driving a ferrari. Its nice ofcoursse and it has its perks definetly but would I sacrifice my life to drive it? Hell no. Being just fit,strong and in good shape is like driving a nice mercedes or BMW. Looks good,classy, totally respectable. Whats more important is not to be seen in an old toyota corolla or something lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by s1nc1ty View Post
    To paint a picture, how i see it, being jacked as fuck is like driving a ferrari. Its nice ofcoursse and it has its perks definetly but would I sacrifice my life to drive it? Hell no. Being just fit,strong and in good shape is like driving a nice mercedes or BMW. Looks good,classy, totally respectable. Whats more important is not to be seen in an old toyota corolla or something lol
    Well put!

    Maybe a Tesla, bad af but for a real short run & will fall apart as soon as the warranty expires

    People get the mentality of “idgaf, I want it all - and, now” - I still do. The Ace & Mast look quite good atm

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    Testie, it looks like you have some good genetics, and I think you would keep most of your gains on just TRT. I know that a lot of people say "when you come off (even to TRT in your case) you have to keep up the intensity and food." I disagree. I believe the intensity must decrease, along with the calories. In fact, I think higher intensity is counter-productive without the arsenal of steroids . A couple of workouts a week, full-body, with just one exercise per body part for each workout is plenty to keep most of your gains on TRT. The older we get, the more we have to think about how we can get the most out of the least amount of drugs/calories/physical abuse we put our bodies through. It's not a bad thing at all - it feels great to feel healthy, be able to breathe, sleep, and be calm rather than wired and aggressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s1nc1ty View Post
    To paint a picture, how i see it, being jacked as fuck is like driving a ferrari. Its nice ofcoursse and it has its perks definetly but would I sacrifice my life to drive it? Hell no. Being just fit,strong and in good shape is like driving a nice mercedes or BMW. Looks good,classy, totally respectable. Whats more important is not to be seen in an old toyota corolla or something lol
    bro, i want that metaphorical Lamborghini, and im willing and eager to do what is necessary to achieve that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by s1nc1ty View Post
    To paint a picture, how i see it, being jacked as fuck is like driving a ferrari. Its nice ofcoursse and it has its perks definetly but would I sacrifice my life to drive it? Hell no. Being just fit,strong and in good shape is like driving a nice mercedes or BMW. Looks good,classy, totally respectable. Whats more important is not to be seen in an old toyota corolla or something lol
    Yeah the hell with an old Corolla ������

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    Testie, it looks like you have some good genetics, and I think you would keep most of your gains on just TRT. I know that a lot of people say "when you come off (even to TRT in your case) you have to keep up the intensity and food." I disagree. I believe the intensity must decrease, along with the calories. In fact, I think higher intensity is counter-productive without the arsenal of steroids. A couple of workouts a week, full-body, with just one exercise per body part for each workout is plenty to keep most of your gains on TRT. The older we get, the more we have to think about how we can get the most out of the least amount of drugs/calories/physical abuse we put our bodies through. It's not a bad thing at all - it feels great to feel healthy, be able to breathe, sleep, and be calm rather than wired and aggressive.
    All good points Test!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTP$ View Post
    bro, i want that metaphorical Lamborghini, and im willing and eager to do what is necessary to achieve that.
    Go get it my Brother!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Testie View Post
    Go get it my Brother!!!
    aww yea, im day 4 into another step towards that goal man!
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    Tren , Mast, Test, Proviron + Var is still tRt right?

    I’ll prob run in for a short burst of like 6 weeks - maybe
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    Quote Originally Posted by < <Samson> > View Post
    Tren , Mast, Test, Proviron + Var is still tRt right?

    I’ll prob run in for a short burst of like 6 weeks - maybe
    yea, that works for TRT. personally i like running a gram of test, 500 mgs of deca a week, and 100 mgs a day of dbol . generous levels of TRT, make sure i feel it working!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTP$ View Post
    yea, that works for TRT. personally i like running a gram of test, 500 mgs of deca a week, and 100 mgs a day of dbol. generous levels of TRT, make sure i feel it working!
    How do you stomach 100 migs of dbol a day? Jfc man

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    May have found the culprit for why I was feeling bad this cycle, blood work is jacked up pretty goodClick image for larger version. 

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    Yea bro, those arent good. They gonna run some tests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuz View Post
    How do you stomach 100 migs of dbol a day? Jfc man
    its interesting man, some people really cant stomach orals at all. but for some reason it doesnt bother me.

    could be my frame of reference from all the years of taking absurd amounts of EC on an empty stomach though

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    Yea bro, those arent good. They gonna run some tests?
    I have a follow up with the doctor to discuss everything was out of whack, that was just my main concern, I’m actually wondering if I didn’t get Dbol instead of winstrol , idk but my bloods are usually pretty good and I usually blast longer so yeah I’m going to keep following….getting checked mid cycle could have prevented this

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