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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    I think what he means is that he isn't actually steroid -peptides personally (neither am I).

    Also, for the conspiracy theory people, I'm not involved with selling peptides at all, and I'm not Carlito (which would be very weird since I had breakfast with him last week).





    Honestly, I don't answer many questions at all, nor do I have the desire to. However, from a buisness perspective, when I answer questions, they will probably be the ones that are directly profitable to either myself, the board, or it's sponsors.

    Yes. But those mods were not also sponsors. IT's a totally different story when you're talking about a mod who is a sponsor and simply there to keep a forum running (because they sell products that are talked about in the forum), versus a mod who is presumed to be a mod as a result of their contributions and knowledge.

    Not really. S-P is here to sell products, and answer questions about their products. They had to be made the only mod in this forum, due to contrary vested interests of several staff members, and their friends on staff.


    LOL, yeah is true that is what I meant...and true we met last week and had breakfast and it was a nice visit, AR is a nice fellow Hey AR, I'll give you a call soon...

    I feel bad for S-P since he is good people and he is also very busy and being this a new company is hard at first at least I imagine that.

    i think it was fair to make him a MOD here, like I said before and I will say it again this happened in another board where the owner made the sponsor a MOD to protect himself from "that company I B E " from his attacks and indirect free advertisement..he gave him permission to delete any post that would be a threat to him and his company..again i think is fair otherwise the competition will be all over trashing S-P simply becuase they are sore losers and childish people, i know this for a fact!

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    What a shock. The mods are bashing a peptide sponsor. We've never seen this happen before, right?

    have mods been quiting over LION?
    Lion Nutrition DISSED!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    I think what he means is that he isn't actually steroid -peptides personally (neither am I). He is, as his title says, a sales rep for them, but isn't involved in the actual processing or selling of their peptides (i.e. he is not involved at all in the incident where this guy was charged for something, when he tried to cancel his order).



    Also, for the conspiracy theory people, I'm not involved with selling peptides at all, and I'm not Carlito (which would be very weird since I had breakfast with him last week).


    Honestly, I don't answer many questions at all, nor do I have the desire to. However, from a buisness perspective, when I answer questions, they will probably be the ones that are directly profitable to either myself, the board, or it's sponsors.

    Yes. But those mods were not also sponsors. IT's a totally different story when you're talking about a mod who is a sponsor and simply there to keep a forum running (because they sell products that are talked about in the forum), versus a mod who is presumed to be a mod as a result of their contributions and knowledge.

    Not really. S-P is here to sell products, and answer questions about their products. They had to be made the only mod in this forum, due to contrary vested interests of several staff members, and their friends on staff.


    answered honestly hooker. thank you, i appreciate it. someone with your knowledege should lend a little more help to the general public, even if it doesnt help you, the sponsor or the board. give a little to the people , and watch, they will embrace you and not question your motivation,and trust you and the sponsors products. good public relations is EVERYTHING in any bussiness and the best way to do that is be-friend the people by helping them out,giving back to those who you may possibly sell products too. best of luck in your ventures, just my 2 cents and wht has worked for me with my bussiness and life in general

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito B
    i think it was fair to make him a MOD here, like I said before and I will say it again this happened in another board where the owner made the sponsor a MOD to protect himself from "that company I B E " from his attacks and indirect free advertisement..he gave him permission to delete any post that would be a threat to him and his company..again i think is fair otherwise the competition will be all over trashing S-P simply becuase they are sore losers and childish people, i know this for a fact!

    C
    if it were only to protect from and delete posts that were made by other companys or friends of it then yes BUT thats not the only case here,RIGHT???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    What a shock. The mods are bashing a peptide sponsor. We've never seen this happen before, right?

    have mods been quiting over LION?
    Lion Nutrition DISSED!!!!!!
    i'm not bashing him about his products BUt because of the lousy attitude.

    -rodge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito B
    LOL, yeah is true that is what I meant...and true we met last week and had breakfast and it was a nice visit, AR is a nice fellow Hey AR, I'll give you a call soon...

    I feel bad for S-P since he is good people and he is also very busy and being this a new company is hard at first at least I imagine that.

    i think it was fair to make him a MOD here, like I said before and I will say it again this happened in another board where the owner made the sponsor a MOD to protect himself from "that company I B E " from his attacks and indirect free advertisement..he gave him permission to delete any post that would be a threat to him and his company..again i think is fair otherwise the competition will be all over trashing S-P simply becuase they are sore losers and childish people, i know this for a fact!

    C
    i agree with you, s-p should be a mod, but the ONLY mod??? it makes it look like a dictaorship. that is the problem i see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    What a shock. The mods are bashing a peptide sponsor. We've never seen this happen before, right?

    have mods been quiting over LION?
    Lion Nutrition DISSED!!!!!!
    i stated it once b4, and will say it again, i am not bashing any product or sponsor, i have no vested intrest in any sponsor or source of anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
    answered honestly hooker. thank you, i appreciate it. someone with your knowledege should lend a little more help to the general public, even if it doesnt help you, the sponsor or the board. give a little to the people , and watch, they will embrace you and not question your motivation,and trust you and the sponsors products. good public relations is EVERYTHING in any bussiness and the best way to do that is be-friend the people by helping them out,giving back to those who you may possibly sell products too. best of luck in your ventures, just my 2 cents and wht has worked for me with my bussiness and life in general
    I tell the truth, 100% of the time...and when I say I just don't have the time to answer too many questions, it's the truth. A long time ago, I made the decision to write about steroids professionally, and that really limits the amount of time I can spend on discussion boards (ironically). So instead of answering the same question 100x in this forum (for example about why I reccomend MGF + IGF instead of hGH), I wrote an article about it:

    IGF & MGF Article

    That's the best way for me to go about things, from both a professional and financial point of view. It gets the message out to more people in the community, gets me more exposure, and gets me a paycheck on top of that.

    Weighed against those factors, it's a very poor time investment for me to post much in threads. My motivation is financial, though I wouldn't compromise my integrity for that...I don't want anyone to think that I'm here out of the kindness of my heart, or something like that.

    This is a job for me....

    Another factor is that right now, I have an online consultation service being run through EF, and I can't really overexpose myself on forums answering questions and stuff like that, when other people are paying me to answer theirs through a consulting service.

    MuscleDriveThrough.com is charging $200/hour for phone consultations with me (no, really) and if I were answering dozens of questions every day, the value of personal consults, my book, and my e-books just wouldn't be as valuable (why pay for info if it's free?). So that's where I am...I need to make a living, and can answer the odd question here and there...but writing articles is really what promotes my other ventures and earns me my living...and most of the time that not only limits the minutes I can alot to posting, but also places a certain limitation on how much I can really post without de-valuing my written work and consultation services.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
    i agree with you, s-p should be a mod, but the ONLY mod??? it makes it look like a dictaorship. that is the problem i see
    This unfortunate situation was brought on by the actions of many on the moderation staff themselves, not by steroid -peptides.

    i'm not bashing him about his products BUt because of the lousy attitude.
    Perhaps the moderators who came here and tried to promote the competition immediately upon his arrival, and used their moderation powers to undermine S-P contributed to this attitude. I haven't seen S-P post much, if at all after that, and I think he is content to use his just make sure there's no flaming (or snide remarks) in this forum, and no promotion of other companies products.

    Other than that, there's not much moderating that he needs to do, as steroid.com has many capable vets and staff members who are able to answer the questions posted in this forum.
    Last edited by Property of Steroid.com; 09-12-2006 at 02:36 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    I think what he means is that he isn't actually steroid -peptides personally (neither am I). He is, as his title says, a sales rep for them, but isn't involved in the actual processing or selling of their peptides (i.e. he is not involved at all in the incident where this guy was charged for something, when he tried to cancel his order).



    Also, for the conspiracy theory people, I'm not involved with selling peptides at all, and I'm not Carlito (which would be very weird since I had breakfast with him last week).


    Honestly, I don't answer many questions at all, nor do I have the desire to. However, from a buisness perspective, when I answer questions, they will probably be the ones that are directly profitable to either myself, the board, or it's sponsors.

    Yes. But those mods were not also sponsors. IT's a totally different story when you're talking about a mod who is a sponsor and simply there to keep a forum running (because they sell products that are talked about in the forum), versus a mod who is presumed to be a mod as a result of their contributions and knowledge.

    Not really. S-P is here to sell products, and answer questions about their products. They had to be made the only mod in this forum, due to contrary vested interests of several staff members, and their friends on staff.


    Since S-P does not sell HGH, maybe AR would consider having a separate HGH forum with mods who are intrested in and will answer questions about HGH.

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    an unfortunate situation yes, but it could be resolved

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    Since S-P does not sell HGH, maybe AR would consider having a separate HGH forum with mods who are intrested in and will answer questions about HGH.
    Nothing is stopping the mods from answering questions about hGH (or insulin , or IGF, or whatever) in this forum. They simply have chosen not to, apparently. This looks to be a case of sour grapes to me, in light of the fact that the only thing that has changed is that they do not have powers in this forum- we saw something similar when mods were made "hall of famers" and had their powers removed, and many of them left. Nothing was keeping them from staying here and contributing information, or having some kind of status, but when their powers were removed, many turned sour on the board and it's owner, and many others stopped posting. I don't see why not having powers in this forum prevents them from posting good, quality information.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
    an unfortunate situation yes, but it could be resolved
    It has already been resolved.

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    resolved????? by fixing the problem with duct tape and bubble gum is more like it! sure it is resolved but not the way it should be, by putting a strangle hold on what everyone can post and what is said is a problem. are you trying to tell me that EVERY mod has a probelm with s-p and that every mods powers should have been striped because we all have a conflict of intrest with s-p???? that we all push other companies ? bullshit! and if you cant tell by this thread alone, the MODs arent the only ones who feel this way. this so called "resolution" is nothing short of a cluster fcuk and looks very poor to many other members not just the mods. i am done posting in this thread, best of luck, s-p feel free to delete what was said, iam sure it will be gone soon, best of luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
    resolved????? by fixing the problem with duct tape and bubble gum is more like it! sure it is resolved but not the way it should be, by putting a strangle hold on what everyone can post and what is said is a problem. are you trying to tell me that EVERY mod has a probelm with s-p and that every mods powers should have been striped because we all have a conflict of intrest with s-p???? that we all push other companies ? bullshit! and if you cant tell by this thread alone, the MODs arent the only ones who feel this way. this so called "resolution" is nothing short of a cluster fcuk and looks very poor to many other members not just the mods. i am done posting in this thread, best of luck, s-p feel free to delete what was said, iam sure it will be gone soon, best of luck
    Why do the mods need powers to edit threads in order to post meaningful information in this forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito B
    Hey bro,

    I'll send you a free vial lmk the addy to send, even thoug I have nothing to do with S-P I am going to step in and help you guys. I do ask you to pay fo rthe express shipping though.

    Carlito

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    What is your custom title all about then?

    You're going to send him a free vial of MGF even though it has nothing to do with you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito B
    Guys,

    I said this before and I will say it again, I know S-P and he asked me to help here with knowledge is all, now I am not a chemist r a scientist but I have been experimenting with peptides a while now that is it, i do not ship I do not hadnle money nor do i get pay for it, is all a friendly duty and I do not mind posting here helping S-P whenever possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    I think what he means is that he isn't actually steroid -peptides personally (neither am I). He is, as his title says, a sales rep for them, but isn't involved in the actual processing or selling of their peptides (i.e. he is not involved at all in the incident where this guy was charged for something, when he tried to cancel his order).



    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito B
    LOL, yeah is true that is what I meant...and true we met last week and had breakfast and it was a nice visit, AR is a nice fellow Hey AR, I'll give you a call soon...
    So he has nothing to do with SP, does not get paid and yet is a sales rep

    An unpaid sales rep is either a mug or a liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall
    So he has nothing to do with SP, does not get paid and yet is a sales rep

    An unpaid sales rep is either a mug or a liar.

    LOL, get your facts right before you post these sort of statements please. I DO NOT MAKE ANY MONEY FROM S-P'S SALES AND I AM NOT A SALES REP ..S-P REP MEANS STEROI-PEPTIDES REPRESENTATIVE.

    Why can't anyone help a good bro with their time? do MODS on boards get paid? i think they don;t and they do it to help their boards only, is that right?

    maybe you want to know more than you need to know..is like if I ask you what do you do for a living,m who you work for and what is the addres and phone# of your employer...????? come on bro!

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito B
    LOL, get your facts right before you post these sort of statements please. I DO NOT MAKE ANY MONEY FROM S-P'S SALES AND I AM NOT A SALES REP ..S-P REP MEANS STEROI-PEPTIDES REPRESENTATIVE.

    Why can't anyone help a good bro with their time? do MODS on boards get paid? i think they don;t and they do it to help their boards only, is that right?

    maybe you want to know more than you need to know..is like if I ask you what do you do for a living,m who you work for and what is the addres and phone# of your employer...????? come on bro!

    Thanks,

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    I can only go by what I read, read the bold bits in Anthony's and your posts that I quoted, he stated that you were a sales rep and you agreed.

    As for my job, I am a sales rep and I do get paid!
    (Nothing remotely steroid or peptide related by the way!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall
    I can only go by what I read, read the bold bits in Anthony's and your posts that I quoted, he stated that you were a sales rep and you agreed.

    As for my job, I am a sales rep and I do get paid!
    (Nothing remotely steroid or peptide related by the way!)
    fair enough and i think is all a misunderstanding bro. Again, I am not a sales rep, S-P REP means: Steroid - Peptide Representative... I agree that title for most means I work for them and I myslef would think that too if I were you or any other member.

    AR is a successful author, he is also a coach and an accomplished Rugby player ( correct me if I am wrong AR please ), S-P is a successful businessman and I also run a business, I can't tell you guys more because is personal and irrelevant.

    Thanks bro and I truly hope this gets resolved soon,S-P is good people and does not deserve bad publicity.

    Also, if I vouch for a source on other board where the have classifieds, does that mean that I get paid by that soruce simply to "bump" his threads? No it does not, it means either we are friends or I am a satisfied customer.

    Thanks,

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    This popcorn tastes great..
    Haha, you too huh? I feel like I'm watching something I'm not supposed to be watching, and that big brother is going to come in here soon and turn off the tv.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    Why do the mods need powers to edit threads in order to post meaningful information in this forum?
    We are not only here to educate ourselves and others, we have been selected as mods to look afer this board incase rules are broken (eg: source posting, advertising etc etc), this way we can edit/delete/move threads if necessary. We canot do this if we don't have moderator powers. We actually can't even post without our thread being deleted lately, well certinly seems that way anyway.

    I am not bashing any sponsors either, for all I know S-Ps stuff could be good. But when threads get deleted for no reason, well I'm not up for that, that's the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gear
    We are not only here to educate ourselves and others, we have been selected as mods to look afer this board incase rules are broken (eg: source posting, advertising etc etc), this way we can edit/delete/move threads if necessary. We canot do this if we don't have moderator powers. We actually can't even post without our thread being deleted lately, well certinly seems that way anyway.

    -Gear
    Your services as a moderator in that capacity are simply not wanted or needed in this forum, in the opinion of the sponsor, the owner, and frankly, myself. The Admins are reasonably active and there are 3 of them who are typically available to move/edit threads as necessary, as well as S-P who is this forum's mod. So that's 4 people watching this forum for rule violations, and I think that's enough staff to sufficiently moderate this forum (they've been told to watch this forum closely, I've been told); that should allow you guys to post all of your meaningful IGF information, as long as it doesn't push or discuss competitors products and otherwise follows the rules.

    Therefore, I don't see why you guys need any moderation powers in this forum in order to post meaningful information. If you see a thread that needs moderation, just report the post to the Admins, or PM S-P.

    Problem solved, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    This unfortunate situation was brought on by the actions of many on the moderation staff themselves, not by steroid-peptides.
    The AR MODS tried to let everyone have their say regardless if one doesn't like the response. As long as there is no disrespect or rule breaking, any response is welcome. This is what the AR MODS tried to implement. However, certain parties didn't agree to that, so they decided to take our powers away. So yes you're right, we started all this mess, but we started it for a good reason.

    I don't know why people are talking about other company reps trying to nock of S-P. This isn't the case. It's simply about MODS at AR trying to let everyone have a say (providing rules are not broken) and not get their say deleted.

    This is supposed to be a discussion borad. We are supposed to discuss what works well, and what doesn't. This way people will steer away from the bad products etc etc, this is great for everyone. A member on here got banned because he didn't like one of S-Ps products. All he did was come on here and share his bad experience. So his thread gets deleted, and he gets banned. That member should have never got banned. His thread should have stayed alive so we can discuss what he did wrong, and why the product he used didn'twork for him. This is how we find solutions. How are we supposed to find solutions if we are not allowed to discuss, and state opinions? And he didn't bash S-P about it, he didn't promote any other company, he just said the stuff simply didn't work for him.

    People are starting to relise what's going on here. There has already been regular members saying that this board has gone to $hit lately, and that things are unfair around here.

    Let me say this again, this is nothing against S-P, I think it would just be nice to let everyone have their say in the open. Many members have come on here and said "I don't like "x" product", "it's no good and it's a total waste of money". So then others come along and say "no it's great, I liked it". So the discussion begins. That is how it is supposed to be. But when someone mentions something negative about products from S-P.com, then the discussion gets delted.

    I know this post will probably get deleted, but its worth it for the time being.

    I wish we could just all be a team here, and work as a team, not work against eachother.

    -Gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    Your services as a moderator in that capacity are simply not wanted or needed in this forum, in the opinion of the sponsor, the owner, and frankly, myself.
    Well why did BC make up a thread especially for MODS and VETs stating their duties? One of those duties was to look out for advertising, source posting etc, and if that was to happen, we are to delete that thread, or perhaps edit it and give the member a warning, depending on how bad the rule was violated. And now you're saying that BC doesn't want us moderating? If he doesn't want us moderating, why did he start a thread especially for MODS and VETS stating their duties? And why do we have powers in the rest of the forums, except the GH forum? If there are enough admins to take care of all the moderating, then all MODS shouldn't have any powers in any of the forums, not just this forum. So "quite frankly" Anthony, I really don't think you know what you're talking about, and if BC doesn't want us moderating, then it should come from him, not you, and as far as I know, BC has never said to me or any of the other MODs that my/our moderating is no longer needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gear
    The AR MODS tried to let everyone have their say regardless if one doesn't like the response. As long as there is no disrespect or rule breaking, any response is welcome. This is what the AR MODS tried to implement. However, certain parties didn't agree to that, so they decided to take our powers away. So yes you're right, we started all this mess, but we started it for a good reason.

    I don't know why people are talking about other company reps trying to nock of S-P. This isn't the case. It's simply about MODS at AR trying to let everyone have a say (providing rules are not broken) and not get their say deleted.

    This is supposed to be a discussion borad. We are supposed to discuss what works well, and what doesn't. This way people will steer away from the bad products etc etc, this is great for everyone. A member on here got banned because he didn't like one of S-Ps products. All he did was come on here and share his bad experience. So his thread gets deleted, and he gets banned. That member should have never got banned. His thread should have stayed alive so we can discuss what he did wrong, and why the product he used didn'twork for him. This is how we find solutions. How are we supposed to find solutions if we are not allowed to discuss, and state opinions? And he didn't bash S-P about it, he didn't promote any other company, he just said the stuff simply didn't work for him.

    People are starting to relise what's going on here. There has already been regular members saying that this board has gone to $hit lately, and that things are unfair around here.

    Let me say this again, this is nothing against S-P, I think it would just be nice to let everyone have their say in the open. Many members have come on here and said "I don't like "x" product", "it's no good and it's a total waste of money". So then others come along and say "no it's great, I liked it". So the discussion begins. That is how it is supposed to be. But when someone mentions something negative about products from S-P.com, then the discussion gets delted.

    I know this post will probably get deleted, but its worth it for the time being.

    I wish we could just all be a team here, and work as a team, not work against eachother.

    -Gear

    How can someone say bad things abotu S-P products since day#1 if they have not even tried them?

    No, the firt thing that happened was a competitot rep Johnny B to be more precise saying regualr MGF doe s not work and that PEG MGF is better...what do you call that? why keep ignoring that? like i said this is not new and that particular company has doen this to another peptide supplier in 3 other boards...

    Si not like in one day someone can psot negative feedback on MGF, OK now even GHRP-6 and Hexarelin which are advertised as GH substitutes by thecompetitor and that is not true! these are great at increasing GH and IGF-1 levels on those individuals with suppressed ( low ) levels og natural GH and/or IGF-1...

    Can we move on?

    Can you ex-mods stop being so vendicted and angry simply because your MOD powers were removed?

    Thanks,

    C

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito B
    How can someone say bad things abotu S-P products since day#1 if they have not even tried them?

    No, the firt thing that happened was a competitot rep Johnny B to be more precise saying regualr MGF doe s not work and that PEG MGF is better...what do you call that? why keep ignoring that? like i said this is not new and that particular company has doen this to another peptide supplier in 3 other boards...

    Si not like in one day someone can psot negative feedback on MGF, OK now even GHRP-6 and Hexarelin which are advertised as GH substitutes by thecompetitor and that is not true! these are great at increasing GH and IGF-1 levels on those individuals with suppressed ( low ) levels og natural GH and/or IGF-1...

    Can we move on?

    Can you ex-mods stop being so vendicted and angry simply because your MOD powers were removed?

    Thanks,

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    I don't know if that product came directly from S-P, but it was certinly the same thing S-P is selling. The member stated his opinion about it and he got banned and the thread got deleted. You like ignoring that part don't you?

    Now as for how all this got started, yes you're right, JB started all this when he argued the MGF/PEG MGF subject. But all he did was post evidence to support his claim. That evidence got deleted. Why? Then I undeleted it, then S-P deleted it again, and then it just went on and on... So then we got our powers taken away. That's how it all started. JB never said anything bad about S-P, never promoted other companies, he simply disagreed and stated evidence to back his claim. It happens all the time, members do this every day. They come across threads they don't agree to, they say they don't agree and present the evidence to support their claim. What's wrong with that?

    Now as for JB being a rep for someone else, for all I know it could be true. I don't know. But what I do know is, when it comes to this issue, I certinly didn't see JB trying to make S-P look bad, or telling members not to turn to SP, instead all he did was present evidence against something he didn't agree to, so how could this issue be about JB being a rep?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gear

    Now as for how all this got started, yes you're right, JB (A Sales rep for a competing company) started all this when he argued the MGF/PEG MGF subject (In order to promote another company's product). But all he did was post evidence to support his claim (not really). That evidence got deleted. Why? Then I undeleted it, then S-P deleted it again, and then it just went on and on... So then we got our powers taken away. That's how it all started. JB never said anything bad about S-P (except that he tried to promote a competing company's product) never promoted other companies (he has been spoken to numerous times by the owner of this site for promoting IGF/Chem companies other than board sponsors via both PMs and open posts), he simply disagreed and stated evidence to back his claim (his evidence was garbage). It happens all the time, members do this every day. They come across threads they don't agree to, they say they don't agree and present the evidence to support their claim. What's wrong with that?


    -Gear
    In any case, Hall of Famers do not have powers in this forum, and I personally hope it stays that way. As for posting here, I hope you guys try posting something useful instead of the political garbage and complaining which has been posted by the majority of you for the last month or so.

    If you want to complain about policy, do it on the Hall of Fame forum, or PM the owner, but it's kind of useless to keep flogging the issue in this forum. In fact, I think S-P should delete all posts in this forum which do not deal with the stated content of this forum. In short, if you want to complain about board policy, then I think it should be done elsewhere; this forum is for talking about hGH, 'slin, IGF, and other peptides. In light of that, I firmly believe that posts which do not deal with the stated subject matter of this forum ought to be removed....this includes issues with board policy, which have no place on the open forums. Just my opinion...which isn't really important right now, as the current state of affairs (S-P being the only person able to moderate) is fine with me...and not likely to change anytime soon.





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    Well why did BC make up a thread especially for MODS and VETs stating their duties? One of those duties was to look out for advertising, source posting etc, and if that was to happen, we are to delete that thread, or perhaps edit it and give the member a warning, depending on how bad the rule was violated. And now you're saying that BC doesn't want us moderating? If he doesn't want us moderating, why did he start a thread especially for MODS and VETS stating their duties? And why do we have powers in the rest of the forums, except the GH forum? If there are enough admins to take care of all the moderating, then all MODS shouldn't have any powers in any of the forums, not just this forum. So "quite frankly" Anthony, I really don't think you know what you're talking about, and if BC doesn't want us moderating, then it should come from him, not you, and as far as I know, BC has never said to me or any of the other MODs that my/our moderating is no longer needed.

    -Gear
    As I recall, the mods were made Hall of Famers, and had all powers removed not too long ago. Then some (not all) of them received a few powers back (but not all previous powers), and their former title of "mod" was not restored. I seem to recall many mods pissing and crying, and many being given the boot for it....

    In fact, there's a reason Steroid .com has no more "mods" and now simply has "Hall of Famers" with very limited powers. And there's a reason I hadn't posted here for several months until that move was made (a move which I had known was coming along for a year and a half before it happened).

    I "think" that was enough of a clue as to what is wanted here. I "think" I may know a bit more about what's going on than you do.

    Tell JB I said hello...I haven't seen him post here in awhile...
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    wow i cant believe i just read this whole damn thread! my head hurts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    In any case, Hall of Famers do not have powers in this forum, and I personally hope it stays that way. As for posting here, I hope you guys try posting something useful instead of the political garbage and complaining which has been posted by the majority of you for the last month or so.

    If you want to complain about policy, do it on the Hall of Fame forum, or PM the owner, but it's kind of useless to keep flogging the issue in this forum. In fact, I think S-P should delete all posts in this forum which do not deal with the stated content of this forum. In short, if you want to complain about board policy, then I think it should be done elsewhere; this forum is for talking about hGH, 'slin, IGF, and other peptides. In light of that, I firmly believe that posts which do not deal with the stated subject matter of this forum ought to be removed....this includes issues with board policy, which have no place on the open forums. Just my opinion...which isn't really important right now, as the current state of affairs (S-P being the only person able to moderate) is fine with me...and not likely to change anytime soon.





    shit and i thought that was never to be mentioned
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    As I recall, the mods were made Hall of Famers, and had all powers removed not too long ago. Then some (not all) of them received a few powers back (but not all previous powers), and their former title of "mod" was not restored. I seem to recall many mods pissing and crying, and many being given the boot for it....

    In fact, there's a reason Steroid .com has no more "mods" and now simply has "Hall of Famers" with very limited powers. And there's a reason I hadn't posted here for several months until that move was made (a move which I had known was coming along for a year and a half before it happened).

    I "think" that was enough of a clue as to what is wanted here. I "think" I may know a bit more about what's going on than you do.

    Tell JB I said hello...I haven't seen him post here in awhile...
    I'm starting to see how you got your reputation as an intelligent guy with dreadful social skills...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    I'll look into it, and post a resolution in this thread.

    Hope so because i feel like iv bascially been robbed and no one gives a shit at S-P - i have still recived no repsonse from them - what kind of a company is this ? A pathetic one if you ask me who cannot even answer an email - im starting to question if it even is a company and not just a one man band or scam website as thats what its looking like to me - and even after PM'in them through here iv recived nothing ! Discraceful !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gear
    I don't know if that product came directly from S-P, but it was certinly the same thing S-P is selling. The member stated his opinion about it and he got banned and the thread got deleted. You like ignoring that part don't you?

    Now as for how all this got started, yes you're right, JB started all this when he argued the MGF/PEG MGF subject. But all he did was post evidence to support his claim. That evidence got deleted. Why? Then I undeleted it, then S-P deleted it again, and then it just went on and on... So then we got our powers taken away. That's how it all started. JB never said anything bad about S-P, never promoted other companies, he simply disagreed and stated evidence to back his claim. It happens all the time, members do this every day. They come across threads they don't agree to, they say they don't agree and present the evidence to support their claim. What's wrong with that?

    Now as for JB being a rep for someone else, for all I know it could be true. I don't know. But what I do know is, when it comes to this issue, I certinly didn't see JB trying to make S-P look bad, or telling members not to turn to SP, instead all he did was present evidence against something he didn't agree to, so how could this issue be about JB being a rep?

    -Gear
    I do not know of any other member getting banned for saying anything bad, I do think JB needed to be banned for starting some s h i * since day #1 purposedly attacking S-P's products because it is an attack even if you do not want to admit it...why you keep ignoring what i have said about I B * doing this same thing on 3 other boards? can't you read or understand this...to ou guys it may have looked all innocent and s h i * but it was not, JB had his bad intentions and then HE is the ONE THAT BANNED me after I mentioned the fact he worked for I B * and that I B * used to be Liquid-Research and that they got busted for selling GHB...funny how right after I mentioned that I got banned hmmmm...wonder....then justice was served and I got unbanned.

    LET ME EXPLAIN IT TO YOU BETTER PERHAPS THSI WAY YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT...

    LET'S SAY YOU START A COMPANY SELLING SOME NEW PRODUCTS AND YOU ADVERTISE ON A BOARD WHERE YOU ARE A CPMPLETE STRANGER....WELL THE PEOPLE THAT WAS AND STARTED SELLING THAT ONE PRODUCT YOU ARE SELLING AND THEN HE SENDS HIS FRIENDS TO START BASHING YOUR PRODUCT SAYING IS NOT GOOD,IS NOT EVEN DAY #2 BUT YOU GET ALL THESE THREADS BY OTHER "GUYS" WASTING THEIR ENERGY SIMPLY STATING YOUR PRODUCTS DO NOT WORK....PRETTY S H I T T * IF YOU ASK ME.

    WELL, THE GOOD OWNER OF THAT BOARD CLEARLY SEE THAT B S AND HE GIVES YOU MOD POWERS AND AUTHORIZES YOU TO DELETE AND EVEN BAN ANYONE WHO INDIRECTLY ATTACKS YOU AND YOUR PRODUCTS SIMPLY BECAUSE IS NOT FAIR AND BECAUSE IS A LOW BLOW ( TYPICAL I B * ) OK NOW YOU GET TO HAVE CONTROL ON YOUR OWN FORUM AND GET RID OF THE NEGATIVITY..

    THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING OR IT HAPENDED BECAUSE I B * PRESENCE IS NO LONGER HERE ( YEAH THEY ALREADY CAUSED DAMAGE BUT KARMA IS A B I T C * )UNLESS OF COURSE THOSE OF YOU WHO KEEP B I T C H I N * ARE FRIENDS WITH THEM AND/OR ANOTHER PATHETHIC CUSTOMER WHO LIKES BUYING BUNK FICTICIOUS BS PRODUCTS.

    Do you get it now?

    W ho are you anyways, hall of famer WTF? I tell you who the real hall of famer is...someone who contributes to our community and even risks their own freedom to bring good REAL DEAL ( not prohormone crap ) That is a real hall of famer.

    Sorry but you are just working my last nerve, why don't you go to *************.com and become a MOD there and bash S-P all you want. I know I will be making sure NOT ONE I B * member is on my upcoming board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gear
    JB never said anything bad about S-P, never promoted other companies, he simply disagreed and stated evidence to back his claim. It happens all the time, members do this every day. They come across threads they don't agree to, they say they don't agree and present the evidence to support their claim. What's wrong with that?

    Now as for JB being a rep for someone else, for all I know it could be true. I don't know. But what I do know is, when it comes to this issue, I certinly didn't see JB trying to make S-P look bad, or telling members not to turn to SP, instead all he did was present evidence against something he didn't agree to, so how could this issue be about JB being a rep?

    -Gear

    come on bro....I think you are smarter than that and see thru it, can you?

    He did not have to say to stay away from S-P...he did it indirectly...why are you in denial?

    Are an I B * lover too?

    I am tired of this s h i * , really do not have the time for this childish crap...i am way too busy making $$$$$$$ and handling my own business.

    You guys do not like S-P products then do not buy them simple as that, goa nd buy some "oral IGF -1 " that does not work and get ripped off by the real scammers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by needbigguns
    Hope so because i feel like iv bascially been robbed and no one gives a shit at S-P - i have still recived no repsonse from them - what kind of a company is this ? A pathetic one if you ask me who cannot even answer an email - im starting to question if it even is a company and not just a one man band or scam website as thats what its looking like to me - and even after PM'in them through here iv recived nothing ! Discraceful !
    Firstly, you need to e-mail them, not PM them...they don't operate their buisness via the PM system here.

    Secondly, send me a shipping address and I'll just send you whatever your order was supposed to be, out of my stuff, free of charge, and on my own tab.

    How's that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    Firstly, you need to e-mail them, not PM them...they don't operate their buisness via the PM system here.

    Secondly, send me a shipping address and I'll just send you whatever your order was supposed to be, out of my stuff, free of charge, and on my own tab.

    How's that?


    AR, no need bro I am already shipping free MGF for him on me today, I'll get tracking for him later on today.

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlito B
    AR, no need bro I am already shipping free MGF for him on me today, I'll get tracking for him later on today.

    Thanks,

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    Ok, cool...

    I haven't been able to get in touch with S-P for a couple of days now, but as long as this guy gets his MGF, then everything is cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSmall
    I'm starting to see how you got your reputation as an intelligent guy with dreadful social skills...
    Good thing people come to me for steroid information and not information about etiquette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
    Good thing people come to me for steroid information and not information about etiquette.
    LMAO! True...true....

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    The forum was titled "Did MGF work for YOU in LOCALISED growth ?". Perhaps it should of been titled "Biased oppinion on MGF". On one side I see moderators with no financial motivation at all providing relevant information to the topic at hand, and on the other I see a biased oppinion being presented by salesmen who have something to gain.

    If someones oppinion is simply that the product does not work or describes problems they encountered with it, then it should be posted not deleted. The primary reason for these forums is a source of INFORMATION. I won't condemn nor condone the companies product, as I have not used it for myself. However, as users and possible customers, we have the right to have access to all information regarding that product.

    I read posts of "karma" and "someone who contributes to our community and even risks their own freedom". What is that? Are we still talking about MGF or is this a quest for the Holy Grail?

    I think the problem at hand here lies soley in the fact that one person as posted is here "too busy making $$$$$$$ and handling my own business" and others are here to provide information.

    I think it would be more beneficial for the company in question to leave all information about the product on forum, then let the public decide. If this is not the case, then surely you must understand why people are skeptical?

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