View Poll Results: Did MGF work for YOU in LOCALISED growth ?
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09-12-2006, 02:10 PM #81Big Pimp
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Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
I feel bad for S-P since he is good people and he is also very busy and being this a new company is hard at first at least I imagine that.
i think it was fair to make him a MOD here, like I said before and I will say it again this happened in another board where the owner made the sponsor a MOD to protect himself from "that company I B E " from his attacks and indirect free advertisement..he gave him permission to delete any post that would be a threat to him and his company..again i think is fair otherwise the competition will be all over trashing S-P simply becuase they are sore losers and childish people, i know this for a fact!
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09-12-2006, 02:12 PM #82Writer
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What a shock. The mods are bashing a peptide sponsor. We've never seen this happen before, right?
have mods been quiting over LION?
Lion Nutrition DISSED!!!!!!
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09-12-2006, 02:14 PM #83Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
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09-12-2006, 02:16 PM #84Originally Posted by Carlito B
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09-12-2006, 02:19 PM #85Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
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09-12-2006, 02:20 PM #86Originally Posted by Carlito B
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09-12-2006, 02:23 PM #87Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
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09-12-2006, 02:29 PM #88Writer
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Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
IGF & MGF Article
That's the best way for me to go about things, from both a professional and financial point of view. It gets the message out to more people in the community, gets me more exposure, and gets me a paycheck on top of that.
Weighed against those factors, it's a very poor time investment for me to post much in threads. My motivation is financial, though I wouldn't compromise my integrity for that...I don't want anyone to think that I'm here out of the kindness of my heart, or something like that.
This is a job for me....
Another factor is that right now, I have an online consultation service being run through EF, and I can't really overexpose myself on forums answering questions and stuff like that, when other people are paying me to answer theirs through a consulting service.
MuscleDriveThrough.com is charging $200/hour for phone consultations with me (no, really) and if I were answering dozens of questions every day, the value of personal consults, my book, and my e-books just wouldn't be as valuable (why pay for info if it's free?). So that's where I am...I need to make a living, and can answer the odd question here and there...but writing articles is really what promotes my other ventures and earns me my living...and most of the time that not only limits the minutes I can alot to posting, but also places a certain limitation on how much I can really post without de-valuing my written work and consultation services.
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09-12-2006, 02:32 PM #89Writer
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Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
i'm not bashing him about his products BUt because of the lousy attitude.
Other than that, there's not much moderating that he needs to do, as steroid.com has many capable vets and staff members who are able to answer the questions posted in this forum.Last edited by Property of Steroid.com; 09-12-2006 at 02:36 PM.
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09-12-2006, 02:43 PM #90Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
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09-12-2006, 02:46 PM #91
an unfortunate situation yes, but it could be resolved
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09-12-2006, 02:57 PM #92Writer
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Since S-P does not sell HGH, maybe AR would consider having a separate HGH forum with mods who are intrested in and will answer questions about HGH.
Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
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09-12-2006, 03:35 PM #93
resolved????? by fixing the problem with duct tape and bubble gum is more like it! sure it is resolved but not the way it should be, by putting a strangle hold on what everyone can post and what is said is a problem. are you trying to tell me that EVERY mod has a probelm with s-p and that every mods powers should have been striped because we all have a conflict of intrest with s-p???? that we all push other companies ? bullshit! and if you cant tell by this thread alone, the MODs arent the only ones who feel this way. this so called "resolution" is nothing short of a cluster fcuk and looks very poor to many other members not just the mods. i am done posting in this thread, best of luck, s-p feel free to delete what was said, iam sure it will be gone soon, best of luck
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09-12-2006, 04:29 PM #94Writer
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Originally Posted by Doc.Sust
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09-12-2006, 04:45 PM #95English Rudeboy
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Originally Posted by NotSmall
Originally Posted by Carlito B
Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
Originally Posted by Carlito B
An unpaid sales rep is either a mug or a liar.
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09-12-2006, 04:50 PM #96Big Pimp
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Originally Posted by NotSmall
LOL, get your facts right before you post these sort of statements please. I DO NOT MAKE ANY MONEY FROM S-P'S SALES AND I AM NOT A SALES REP ..S-P REP MEANS STEROI-PEPTIDES REPRESENTATIVE.
Why can't anyone help a good bro with their time? do MODS on boards get paid? i think they don;t and they do it to help their boards only, is that right?
maybe you want to know more than you need to know..is like if I ask you what do you do for a living,m who you work for and what is the addres and phone# of your employer...????? come on bro!
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09-12-2006, 04:55 PM #97
This popcorn tastes great..
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09-12-2006, 04:57 PM #98English Rudeboy
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Originally Posted by Carlito B
As for my job, I am a sales rep and I do get paid!
(Nothing remotely steroid or peptide related by the way!)
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09-12-2006, 05:54 PM #99Big Pimp
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Originally Posted by NotSmall
AR is a successful author, he is also a coach and an accomplished Rugby player ( correct me if I am wrong AR please ), S-P is a successful businessman and I also run a business, I can't tell you guys more because is personal and irrelevant.
Thanks bro and I truly hope this gets resolved soon,S-P is good people and does not deserve bad publicity.
Also, if I vouch for a source on other board where the have classifieds, does that mean that I get paid by that soruce simply to "bump" his threads? No it does not, it means either we are friends or I am a satisfied customer.
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09-12-2006, 06:25 PM #100Originally Posted by Jayhova
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09-12-2006, 07:58 PM #101Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
I am not bashing any sponsors either, for all I know S-Ps stuff could be good. But when threads get deleted for no reason, well I'm not up for that, that's the issue.
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09-12-2006, 08:10 PM #102Writer
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Originally Posted by Gear
Therefore, I don't see why you guys need any moderation powers in this forum in order to post meaningful information. If you see a thread that needs moderation, just report the post to the Admins, or PM S-P.
Problem solved, right?
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09-12-2006, 08:24 PM #103Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
I don't know why people are talking about other company reps trying to nock of S-P. This isn't the case. It's simply about MODS at AR trying to let everyone have a say (providing rules are not broken) and not get their say deleted.
This is supposed to be a discussion borad. We are supposed to discuss what works well, and what doesn't. This way people will steer away from the bad products etc etc, this is great for everyone. A member on here got banned because he didn't like one of S-Ps products. All he did was come on here and share his bad experience. So his thread gets deleted, and he gets banned. That member should have never got banned. His thread should have stayed alive so we can discuss what he did wrong, and why the product he used didn'twork for him. This is how we find solutions. How are we supposed to find solutions if we are not allowed to discuss, and state opinions? And he didn't bash S-P about it, he didn't promote any other company, he just said the stuff simply didn't work for him.
People are starting to relise what's going on here. There has already been regular members saying that this board has gone to $hit lately, and that things are unfair around here.
Let me say this again, this is nothing against S-P, I think it would just be nice to let everyone have their say in the open. Many members have come on here and said "I don't like "x" product", "it's no good and it's a total waste of money". So then others come along and say "no it's great, I liked it". So the discussion begins. That is how it is supposed to be. But when someone mentions something negative about products from S-P.com, then the discussion gets delted.
I know this post will probably get deleted, but its worth it for the time being.
I wish we could just all be a team here, and work as a team, not work against eachother.
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09-12-2006, 08:39 PM #104Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
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09-12-2006, 08:49 PM #105Big Pimp
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Originally Posted by Gear
How can someone say bad things abotu S-P products since day#1 if they have not even tried them?
No, the firt thing that happened was a competitot rep Johnny B to be more precise saying regualr MGF doe s not work and that PEG MGF is better...what do you call that? why keep ignoring that? like i said this is not new and that particular company has doen this to another peptide supplier in 3 other boards...
Si not like in one day someone can psot negative feedback on MGF, OK now even GHRP-6 and Hexarelin which are advertised as GH substitutes by thecompetitor and that is not true! these are great at increasing GH and IGF-1 levels on those individuals with suppressed ( low ) levels og natural GH and/or IGF-1...
Can we move on?
Can you ex-mods stop being so vendicted and angry simply because your MOD powers were removed?
Thanks,
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09-12-2006, 09:15 PM #106Originally Posted by Carlito B
Now as for how all this got started, yes you're right, JB started all this when he argued the MGF/PEG MGF subject. But all he did was post evidence to support his claim. That evidence got deleted. Why? Then I undeleted it, then S-P deleted it again, and then it just went on and on... So then we got our powers taken away. That's how it all started. JB never said anything bad about S-P, never promoted other companies, he simply disagreed and stated evidence to back his claim. It happens all the time, members do this every day. They come across threads they don't agree to, they say they don't agree and present the evidence to support their claim. What's wrong with that?
Now as for JB being a rep for someone else, for all I know it could be true. I don't know. But what I do know is, when it comes to this issue, I certinly didn't see JB trying to make S-P look bad, or telling members not to turn to SP, instead all he did was present evidence against something he didn't agree to, so how could this issue be about JB being a rep?
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09-12-2006, 09:48 PM #107Writer
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Originally Posted by Gear
If you want to complain about policy, do it on the Hall of Fame forum, or PM the owner, but it's kind of useless to keep flogging the issue in this forum. In fact, I think S-P should delete all posts in this forum which do not deal with the stated content of this forum. In short, if you want to complain about board policy, then I think it should be done elsewhere; this forum is for talking about hGH, 'slin, IGF, and other peptides. In light of that, I firmly believe that posts which do not deal with the stated subject matter of this forum ought to be removed....this includes issues with board policy, which have no place on the open forums. Just my opinion...which isn't really important right now, as the current state of affairs (S-P being the only person able to moderate) is fine with me...and not likely to change anytime soon.
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09-12-2006, 09:51 PM #108Writer
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Originally Posted by Gear
In fact, there's a reason Steroid .com has no more "mods" and now simply has "Hall of Famers" with very limited powers. And there's a reason I hadn't posted here for several months until that move was made (a move which I had known was coming along for a year and a half before it happened).
I "think" that was enough of a clue as to what is wanted here. I "think" I may know a bit more about what's going on than you do.
Tell JB I said hello...I haven't seen him post here in awhile...Last edited by Property of Steroid.com; 09-12-2006 at 10:02 PM.
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09-12-2006, 10:13 PM #109
wow i cant believe i just read this whole damn thread! my head hurts!
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09-13-2006, 12:00 AM #110Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
shit and i thought that was never to be mentionedno open source posting
keep all source request's to PM'S please
someone once said to me a clever man learn's by his own mistake's. But a wise man learn's by the mistake's of other people.
detailed detection timesat least 45 day's active use and 100 posts for a source checkunsure about the rule's please read up
thread for first cycle choices
SOURCE CHECKS CLICK HERE
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09-13-2006, 12:37 AM #111English Rudeboy
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Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
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09-13-2006, 03:22 AM #112Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
Hope so because i feel like iv bascially been robbed and no one gives a shit at S-P - i have still recived no repsonse from them - what kind of a company is this ? A pathetic one if you ask me who cannot even answer an email - im starting to question if it even is a company and not just a one man band or scam website as thats what its looking like to me - and even after PM'in them through here iv recived nothing ! Discraceful !
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Originally Posted by Gear
LET ME EXPLAIN IT TO YOU BETTER PERHAPS THSI WAY YOU CAN UNDERSTAND IT...
LET'S SAY YOU START A COMPANY SELLING SOME NEW PRODUCTS AND YOU ADVERTISE ON A BOARD WHERE YOU ARE A CPMPLETE STRANGER....WELL THE PEOPLE THAT WAS AND STARTED SELLING THAT ONE PRODUCT YOU ARE SELLING AND THEN HE SENDS HIS FRIENDS TO START BASHING YOUR PRODUCT SAYING IS NOT GOOD,IS NOT EVEN DAY #2 BUT YOU GET ALL THESE THREADS BY OTHER "GUYS" WASTING THEIR ENERGY SIMPLY STATING YOUR PRODUCTS DO NOT WORK....PRETTY S H I T T * IF YOU ASK ME.
WELL, THE GOOD OWNER OF THAT BOARD CLEARLY SEE THAT B S AND HE GIVES YOU MOD POWERS AND AUTHORIZES YOU TO DELETE AND EVEN BAN ANYONE WHO INDIRECTLY ATTACKS YOU AND YOUR PRODUCTS SIMPLY BECAUSE IS NOT FAIR AND BECAUSE IS A LOW BLOW ( TYPICAL I B * ) OK NOW YOU GET TO HAVE CONTROL ON YOUR OWN FORUM AND GET RID OF THE NEGATIVITY..
THIS IS WHAT IS HAPPENING OR IT HAPENDED BECAUSE I B * PRESENCE IS NO LONGER HERE ( YEAH THEY ALREADY CAUSED DAMAGE BUT KARMA IS A B I T C * )UNLESS OF COURSE THOSE OF YOU WHO KEEP B I T C H I N * ARE FRIENDS WITH THEM AND/OR ANOTHER PATHETHIC CUSTOMER WHO LIKES BUYING BUNK FICTICIOUS BS PRODUCTS.
Do you get it now?
W ho are you anyways, hall of famer WTF? I tell you who the real hall of famer is...someone who contributes to our community and even risks their own freedom to bring good REAL DEAL ( not prohormone crap ) That is a real hall of famer.
Sorry but you are just working my last nerve, why don't you go to *************.com and become a MOD there and bash S-P all you want. I know I will be making sure NOT ONE I B * member is on my upcoming board.
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09-13-2006, 05:24 AM #114Big Pimp
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Originally Posted by Gear
come on bro....I think you are smarter than that and see thru it, can you?
He did not have to say to stay away from S-P...he did it indirectly...why are you in denial?
Are an I B * lover too?
I am tired of this s h i * , really do not have the time for this childish crap...i am way too busy making $$$$$$$ and handling my own business.
You guys do not like S-P products then do not buy them simple as that, goa nd buy some "oral IGF -1 " that does not work and get ripped off by the real scammers!
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09-13-2006, 06:01 AM #115Writer
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Originally Posted by needbigguns
Secondly, send me a shipping address and I'll just send you whatever your order was supposed to be, out of my stuff, free of charge, and on my own tab.
How's that?
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09-13-2006, 07:47 AM #116Big Pimp
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Originally Posted by Anthony Roberts
AR, no need bro I am already shipping free MGF for him on me today, I'll get tracking for him later on today.
Thanks,
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Originally Posted by Carlito B
I haven't been able to get in touch with S-P for a couple of days now, but as long as this guy gets his MGF, then everything is cool.
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09-13-2006, 08:28 AM #118Writer
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Originally Posted by NotSmall
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09-13-2006, 10:00 AM #119English Rudeboy
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The forum was titled "Did MGF work for YOU in LOCALISED growth ?". Perhaps it should of been titled "Biased oppinion on MGF". On one side I see moderators with no financial motivation at all providing relevant information to the topic at hand, and on the other I see a biased oppinion being presented by salesmen who have something to gain.
If someones oppinion is simply that the product does not work or describes problems they encountered with it, then it should be posted not deleted. The primary reason for these forums is a source of INFORMATION. I won't condemn nor condone the companies product, as I have not used it for myself. However, as users and possible customers, we have the right to have access to all information regarding that product.
I read posts of "karma" and "someone who contributes to our community and even risks their own freedom". What is that? Are we still talking about MGF or is this a quest for the Holy Grail?
I think the problem at hand here lies soley in the fact that one person as posted is here "too busy making $$$$$$$ and handling my own business" and others are here to provide information.
I think it would be more beneficial for the company in question to leave all information about the product on forum, then let the public decide. If this is not the case, then surely you must understand why people are skeptical?
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