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03-05-2012, 03:37 PM #161
Feet and hands are a little swollen some times nothing too severe though.
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03-09-2012, 12:09 PM #162
I finally got my bw back. I tested some generic greens. The test the op claims to verify it is growth, passed. It did stay cloudy for the 24 hrs. The bw results prove it to be bunk.
Igf level was- 64 ng/ml, norm is 117-329
Growth serum was- .2 ng/ml, norm is 0.0-2.9
Needless to say, op, that this home test does NOT prove anything. Just like all the vets have been saying.
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03-12-2012, 12:33 PM #163Member
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So just received the Asunme and failed the boiling test by staying clear. It is almost certainly junk; most likely just anti-diuretic. Someone else posted similar results with Asunme and another with Taitropin.
Hate to say it...... but the voices of experience on this board, as well as those that parrot "chinese HGH is shit" are right once again!!!!
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03-13-2012, 11:50 AM #164Associate Member
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do you have to leave a pin in the top of the vial so it doesn't burst while it's in the boiling water?
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03-14-2012, 09:23 PM #165New Member
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This thread is funny. Never once did the guy who started this thread say if the solution in a bottle is boiled and it turns cloudy it is growth, where do people keep seeing this?
LOL his only point is that growth for sure will not turn clear. Many people have tried to repeat in different ways but apparently it is difficult to understand.
Boiled and turns clear= not hgh=don't use it.
Boiled and turns cloudy=could be hgh but who knows for sure= take risk if you want to=get labs done=check for common side effects= know your source
Nipertropin turned clear when boiled=threw in trash.
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03-15-2012, 01:49 PM #166Associate Member
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a doctor told me today that this test is flawed in both directions...doc told me if it stays clear it could still be real because their are so many variables like water temp (if it's too hot it could damage all the aminos in the growth...which would make it turn cloudy for a split second then go clear) the non pharma grade stuff has less quality control and is dumbed down compared to the pharma grade so some of the ingredients that remain in the generic stuff that the pharma grade gets taken out can also have the growth stay clear...also the shake test he said is flawed too because shaking it too hard or not hard enough can have different results...i tested my buddy's stuff last night and it stayed clear the whole time...but his bloodwork says his IGF is 597 and he's taking 5 ius 5 days on 2 days off, also he's in his late 40's....i'm relatively new to this site and i'm not standing behind this doctor or the originator of this thread just trying to get to the bottom of this because every gh brand i've tested using this method over the past week has been clear. so basically to sum it up this doc thinks if it's cloudy you have high quality gh in which most impurities have been removed...(or its a good fake) and if it stays clear you have low quality gh (or peptide, igf, hcg etc.)
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03-17-2012, 01:55 PM #167New Member
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saga continues
Mine was Nipertropin and as far as I know that stuff is not good and it was clear. I am not sure why a doctor would know that. A chemist yes, a lab tech yes. Why would he know that. I have a very good urologist friend and endo friend. I will ask them, see if they have an opinion?
Did anyone get good growth that was Nipertropin?
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03-20-2012, 05:27 AM #168Member
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Yeah, all the warnings on on legit pharma HGH say to keep away from heat and not to shake. They also warn against using the vial of HGH if it has turned cloudy. Ergo, real HGH that is heat spoiled (boiled) will turn color.
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