10iu GH and 10iu Slin Run

[Razor]

Hey Razor or anyone with knowledge,

So I read that you've pinned pre WO and post WO for slin..then moved to pre WO. I'm planning in giving slin a try in the next coming weeks. Would you suggest sticking with the pre WO slin and post WO GH protocol? Also, if you do a pre WO slin inject do you take BCAAs and carb source intra WO?

Lastly, can you stack IGF-LR3 with Slin and GH? If so, how would you incorp these injections? Thanks

First off what are you stats, how long have you been training and are you on gear right now or ever been?

[showgun07]

First off what are you stats, how long have you been training and are you on gear right now or ever been?

36yo, 5'9, 215lb, training for 10 years off/on, got into bodybuilding in 2010. Been on 3 aas cycle and on my 4th now. I understand proper dieting and supps however, looking to incorp insulin during my offseason.

btw, picked up some humulin r yesterday. thought it was suppose to be cheap...100 bucks at the pharma.

[gixxerboy1]

36yo, 5'9, 215lb, training for 10 years off/on, got into bodybuilding in 2010. Been on 3 aas cycle and on my 4th now. I understand proper dieting and supps however, looking to incorp insulin during my offseason.

btw, picked up some humulin r yesterday. thought it was suppose to be cheap...100 bucks at the pharma.

yes you got robbed. its typically under $35 for humulin r

[xXthehulkXx]

yes you got robbed. its typically under $35 for humulin r

I get it for $75 straight from walgreens. What pharmacy do you shop at? Lol.

[gixxerboy1]

I get it for $75 straight from walgreens. What pharmacy do you shop at? Lol.

walmart, walgreens is a rip off.

[Razor]

36yo, 5'9, 215lb, training for 10 years off/on, got into bodybuilding in 2010. Been on 3 aas cycle and on my 4th now. I understand proper dieting and supps however, looking to incorp insulin during my offseason.

btw, picked up some humulin r yesterday. thought it was suppose to be cheap...100 bucks at the pharma.

I don't know if you need to go this route, my purpose behind insulin was I was not using gear at the time and wanted to see better gains with the GH and get better results for my money. I was between cycle and I did gain 10lbs using slin and gh.

If your using gear and having good gains with that I would hold of using it. Also I would not use it if your not gonna run gh. Slin is dangerous and you must respect it. I am not using it anymore and I don't know if I will ever use it again. I'm taking my gains and walking away. If I ever do use it again I will use 1-2.5iu just to help stop the insulin resistance gh causes and I highly doubt I will ever ever go above 2.5iu ever again if I do run it again someday in the far future.

My advice exhaust all other options before using

[human project]

yes you got robbed. its typically under $35 for humulin r

It's $89 here at our pharmacies

[Razor]

It's $89 here at our pharmacies

Humalog is not otc right?

[baseline_9]

yes you got robbed. its typically under $35 for humulin r

It's nuts how they are strict with AAS in the US but u can just buy slin OTC.... In the uk we can't just get it like that

[showgun07]

I don't know if you need to go this route, my purpose behind insulin was I was not using gear at the time and wanted to see better gains with the GH and get better results for my money. I was between cycle and I did gain 10lbs using slin and gh.

If your using gear and having good gains with that I would hold of using it. Also I would not use it if your not gonna run gh. Slin is dangerous and you must respect it. I am not using it anymore and I don't know if I will ever use it again. I'm taking my gains and walking away. If I ever do use it again I will use 1-2.5iu just to help stop the insulin resistance gh causes and I highly doubt I will ever ever go above 2.5iu ever again if I do run it again someday in the far future.

My advice exhaust all other options before using

Thanks razor, I hear you. But I do want to help shuttle more aminos and proteins into my muscles. The reason i asked was to get your take on which protocol was better Pre or Post WO. I don't think I'll be taking more then 4 ius, if I do and planning on doing it to minimize risk.

yes you got robbed. its typically under $35 for humulin r

i went to rite aid. i'll have to check out walmart. thanks. yes, humalog you'll need a prescription.

[gixxerboy1]

Thanks razor, I hear you. But I do want to help shuttle more aminos and proteins into my muscles. The reason i asked was to get your take on which protocol was better Pre or Post WO. I don't think I'll be taking more then 4 ius, if I do and planning on doing it to minimize risk.
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read threads by dukki for slin use, he is more knowledgeable then razor

[Razor]

read threads by dukki for slin use, he is more knowledgeable then razor

I just found this out a week ago but Dukkits me that he has actually never used gh or slin. Admire my surprise as it is big as yours when I found this out.

[gixxerboy1]

I just found this out a week ago but Dukkits me that he has actually never used gh or slin. Admire my surprise as it is big as yours when I found this out.

he has used slin before

[Razor]

he has used slin before

Oh he ran it without gh? How was his results?

[M302_Imola]

Thanks razor, I hear you. But I do want to help shuttle more aminos and proteins into my muscles. The reason i asked was to get your take on which protocol was better Pre or Post WO. I don't think I'll be taking more then 4 ius, if I do and planning on doing it to minimize risk.

When just starting out using slin don't use it preworkout, to dangerous IMO. If you are dead set on using I beg you to do at least 2 weeks of research before starting. Always have glucose tabs on hand and don't go over 2iu starting out.

[Muscletech]

I know that all the huge guys (ifbb pro) use slin pre workout, with three shakes during the wo.. it's dangeruous as you use it post wo, but if you know how approach this protocol, well... there is a a big chance that you become a monster, why use slin post wo, when you can have all the benefits before during and after a workout?

[Razor]

I know that all the huge guys (ifbb pro) use slin pre workout, with three shakes during the wo.. it's dangeruous as you use it post wo, but if you know how approach this protocol, well... there is a a big chance that you become a monster, why use slin post wo, when you can have all the benefits before during and after a workout?

Slin is just as dangerous as in PO and PW..must be used with caution and upmost care.

Thephil uses this which is a great protocol to use
1hr before training
- solid meal consisting of 50g pro, 50g car

20min pre workout
- take slin (start at 1iu and work up)

15min pre workout
- gatorade powder (10g of car per 1iu)
- 2 scoops bcaa
- pre workout shake
- multivitamin, vitamin c, L-leucine

During workout
- gatorade powder (half of previous shake)
- 1 scoop bcaa

Post workout
- protein shake 50-80g pro
- have 50g dextrose ready just incase

1hr post workout
- solid meal consisting of 50g pro, 50g car

[Muscletech]

That i was talking about

[thephil]

Slin is just as dangerous as in PO and PW..must be used with caution and upmost care.

Thephil uses this which is a great protocol to use
1hr before training
- solid meal consisting of 50g pro, 50g car

20min pre workout
- take slin (start at 1iu and work up)

15min pre workout
- gatorade powder (10g of car per 1iu)
- 2 scoops bcaa
- pre workout shake
- multivitamin, vitamin c, L-leucine

During workout
- gatorade powder (half of previous shake)
- 1 scoop bcaa

Post workout
- protein shake 50-80g pro
- have 50g dextrose ready just incase

1hr post workout
- solid meal consisting of 50g pro, 50g car

Hahaha thanks bro. Took agez of research to come up with that lol.
Happy to know that other ppl agree with the method

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[M302_Imola]

Hahaha thanks bro. Took agez of research to come up with that lol.
Happy to know that other ppl agree with the method

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What does your pre workout shake consist of and how many iu's of slin do you typical run preworkout? Do you run the slin any other time other than preworkout?

[Razor]

What does your pre workout shake consist of and how many iu's of slin do you typical run preworkout? Do you run the slin any other time other than preworkout?

you think you might use thephils slin protocol? it looks bad ass!!!

[BigBadWolf]

Looks like you might have to change the title of this post to 10iu's of god knows what and 10iu's of slin a day.

[Razor]

Looks like you might have to change the title of this post to 10iu's of god knows what and 10iu's of slin a day.

Lol no, I have never run bunk GH. What they are making now..who knows, but I wont be buying anymore ever again from them

[M302_Imola]

you think you might use thephils slin protocol? it looks bad ass!!!

Possibly later down the road

[thephil]

What does your pre workout shake consist of and how many iu's of slin do you typical run preworkout? Do you run the slin any other time other than preworkout?

Pre workout shake is jack3d amd start at 1iu n worl your way up. I wouldnt go above 15ius max

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[Razor]

Pre workout shake is jack3d amd start at 1iu n worl your way up. I wouldnt go above 15ius max

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Phil u using humalog or Humalin?

[thephil]

Phil u using humalog or Humalin?

Soz guys but just to clear up. I havent actualy started usin slin yet. This is just the protocal in which i will be following during my next bulk which starts monday. Sorry for the confusion. And i will be using the NovoRapid FlexPen.

I will let you guys no how it goes.

Once i have started using slin i will feel a lot more comfortable answering question and helping other people to the best i can. But for now i am in no way am expert.

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[Razor]

Soz guys but just to clear up. I havent actualy started usin slin yet. This is just the protocal in which i will be following during my next bulk which starts monday. Sorry for the confusion. And i will be using the NovoRapid FlexPen.

I will let you guys no how it goes.

Once i have started using slin i will feel a lot more comfortable answering question and helping other people to the best i can. But for now i am in no way am expert.

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Novo Disk makes those pens right, but are tehy fast acting or low acting slin?

[gixxerboy1]

Novo Disk makes those pens right, but are tehy fast acting or low acting slin?

They are fast like humalog

[Razor]

They are fast like humalog

Sweet, can you get them without a script?

[thephil]

They are fast like humalog

Yes they are fast acting

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[Razor]

Yes they are fast acting

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can you get them without a script from the pharmacy?

[gixxerboy1]

You need a script

[Razor]

You need a script

GD!!! why do they make all the slow acting slins OTC and fast ones you need a script? do they know BB want the fast ones..or is it just more dangerous?

[gixxerboy1]

They are more dangerous. Bbers have nothing to do with it

[Razor]

thx!

[human project]

I find any time I use more then 4-5ius pre workout I get too sleepy during my workout.. 2-3 actually really helps with my workout energy and pumps but I find anymore is counterproductive. I still always go with 8-10pwo...

[rockhardman]

Can I include insulin in my cycle I'm about to start? .....

My stats 188 lbs 5'7'' 3 cycles under my belt....about to do test/tren /master for12 weeks

[Razor]

Can I include insulin in my cycle I'm about to start? .....

My stats 188 lbs 5'7'' 3 cycles under my belt....about to do test/tren/master for12 weeks

What were the previous 3 cycles?

I would say no do not use slin. If you followed my thread I took high amounts of GH and Slin together with T4 to get steroid like results because I was not cycling this past year. But I still wanted to make gains. GH and Insulin use different pathways than anabolics in some ways but can produce some of the same results. I noticed my gains from growth were more permanent.I dont know if I will ever use insulin again because I had my fill with it and got what I needed from it.

Bodybuilder typically use slin to break plateaus after years of using gear at higher doses to get bigger without having to go overboard on extreme doses of anabolics they add in slin to make that jump and it works.

Slin is dangerous and I spent about a year researching it before I used it and had a lot of help from people on here like gixxer and dukkits. I would suggest doing more research and running your cycle, which appears to be a cut mix, I have the same ones as you 50prop/50tren/50mast right?

Ive been through a lot this past two months with a gyno issue and E2 crash and never lost a single lbs of muscle or any strength..the workouts were tougher and I had to take longer rest periods but I was in a crashed state and still overcame the obstacles infront of me. I ended up getting rid of my gyno and coming back from the crash leaner and stronger.

If I would recommend anything it would be use growth first for a while before messing with slin. much less dangerous and more permanent results..MY IGF levels were so high for close to 2 years and I was in a constant hyperplasia state that I physically altered my body makeup and structure from the inside out.

I have been priming for my cycle for the past few months running at around 1800-2000 cals up until recently and never went below 200lbs. I seem to hover btw 198 and 201. So my gains are permanent now as well as my strength has stayed. I have not worked out in a week cause Im deloading and still weight the same and have dropped bf and I feel great and rested.

hope this helps and can steer you in the right direction.

[rockhardman]

Appreciate ur time on giving me this advice... I'm doing 400 test e/ 300tren e/ and master e 400 a week...my goal is a clean bulk.
Maybe I should start a thread so knowledgeable people like u guide me thru..I'll post sum pics also. I been off gear almost 2 years I got good genetics don't need much AS, but I'm 188 lbs n guess I just want to jump start again......