Bass's TB500 Log

**bass** · 09-30-2013, 11:17 AM

thanks for the update BD, can you PM me where you got your bunk TB from? just want to know if its form the same place I got mine.

**beerdogg** · 09-30-2013, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by bass

thanks for the update BD, can you PM me where you got your bunk TB from? just want to know if its form the same place I got mine.

PM sent Bass. OK I am changing my protocol since I hurt my lower back yesterday doing squats and I'm desperate to get better to get back in the gym. I'm going to inject 2ml of TB4 every other day for the next two weeks then reevaluate my situation. Today was my second 2mg shot.

**PistolPete33** · 10-06-2013, 03:15 PM

Any updates to this post? Are you still running the ARR TB at 2mg/week?

**beerdogg** · 10-06-2013, 03:31 PM

Ok since I started injecting 2mg every other from my new source everything is almost healed. I did chest and arms yesterday and no pain in my shoulder and in my left forearm. My right forearm was far worst than the left and it is almost pain free. I just ordered another 10mg to continue this protocal for one more week. Oh yeah back is also healed.

**PistolPete33** · 10-06-2013, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by beerdogg

Ok since I started injecting 2mg every other from my new source everything is almost healed. I did chest and arms yesterday and no pain in my shoulder and in my left forearm. My right forearm was far worst than the left and it is almost pain free. I just ordered another 10mg to continue this protocal for one more week. Oh yeah back is also healed.

So, are you running 2mg/EOD? For how many weeks? I'm interested in trying this as I have an issue with my neck that I would love to repair without surgery. It's an expensive proposition to do this but if the results are as good as yours it would be worth every penny.

**bass** · 10-06-2013, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by PistolPete33

Any updates to this post? Are you still running the ARR TB at 2mg/week?

yes I am still updating. tomorrow is my next shot and will do an update. and yes I am on ARR TB.

**bass** · 10-06-2013, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by beerdogg

Ok since I started injecting 2mg every other from my new source everything is almost healed. I did chest and arms yesterday and no pain in my shoulder and in my left forearm. My right forearm was far worst than the left and it is almost pain free. I just ordered another 10mg to continue this protocal for one more week. Oh yeah back is also healed.

good to know BD, glad its working for you. i'll give my update tomorrow.

**beerdogg** · 10-06-2013, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by PistolPete33

So, are you running 2mg/EOD? For how many weeks? I'm interested in trying this as I have an issue with my neck that I would love to repair without surgery. It's an expensive proposition to do this but if the results are as good as yours it would be worth every penny.

I did 4 injections this past week at 2mg per shot eod. Today was 5th injection and I ran out so I just ordered 10mg. Hoping to have in by Tuesday to continue 2mg eod until I run out. I should be pain free by then. Disclaimer, I am also taking Modified GRF(1-29) and Ipamorelin at 100mcg 3 times a day for this past week. Those peptides also have healing properties in them. I will continue taking the other two peptides after the TB4 runs out.

**beerdogg** · 10-06-2013, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by bass

good to know BD, glad its working for you. i'll give my update tomorrow.

Sounds good look forward to your update!

**bass** · 10-08-2013, 10:28 AM

took my 8th shot of 2 mgs last night, this is my third vial from ARR, there is a noticeable improvement overall, my left hip pain is almost gone, my right elbow tendonitis is going away. and did shoulder workout few days ago with heavier weights but not my usual weights, i think I am ready to hit my usual weights next time.

I don't think I mentioned it but also had pain in my finger joints, that completely went away. so in conclusion I believe the first batch of TB I got was way under dosed or simply bunk, but the stuff from ARR seem to do what I was expecting. will keep you posted.

**qscgugcsq** · 10-08-2013, 12:27 PM

great to know

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happy to see you going better.

keep that good work

**Red Bastard** · 10-08-2013, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by beerdogg

Ok since I started injecting 2mg every other from my new source everything is almost healed. I did chest and arms yesterday and no pain in my shoulder and in my left forearm. My right forearm was far worst than the left and it is almost pain free. I just ordered another 10mg to continue this protocal for one more week. Oh yeah back is also healed.

That's fast!! Good news. Hopefully it's not just the anti inflammatory effect...

**bass** · 10-08-2013, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Red Bastard

That's fast!! Good news. Hopefully it's not just the anti inflammatory effect...

Yes too good to be true but it's what I am experiencing. I'm sure the anti inflammatory is playing a big part but been on them since the start. Time will tell.

**beerdogg** · 10-08-2013, 07:10 PM

Glad ARR stuff is working out for you Bass!

**Red Bastard** · 10-08-2013, 08:07 PM

As an update, after 9 weeks of 2mg per, I'm virtually pain free, unless I do too much with the shoulder, in a day. I must confess to adding 2iu of HGH, for the last 4 weeks. Oh, and I also inject 200mg/week, of test cyp.... Still not working out at all, except a bit of rotator cuff rehab exercises.

**beerdogg** · 10-08-2013, 09:36 PM

That's good news Red! I ran the ukraine jins for 8 months im sure it did some help depending if I got a good or fake batch. Today was a pull day mainly for back. This day was always the worst for my forearms. There was some discomfort but definitely getting better. My new shipment. Didn't come today so hopefully tomorrow. I need another shot.

**bass** · 10-15-2013, 10:39 AM

took my shot last night, my forth vial from ARR. I am copying my symptoms prior to cycling TB from my first post and comment on each one,

1. right rotator cuff pain (severe), back to lifting but pain still there
2. right lower back muscle pain (moderate) probably due to low E2, almost gone!
3. left elbow (moderate), completely gone, but developed right elbow tendonitis, but this one is almost gone too!
4. left knee (moderate), pain is completely gone with normal use, but still feel some when doing leg work however, I can do 5 plates on each side doing 45 degree hack squats, I believe I can go further down but scared at this point. I couldn't do this before.
5. both ankles (mild), pain completely gone!

**bass** · 10-22-2013, 06:58 PM

did my TB shot last night. as I mentioned previously I was on prescribed pain killer and been on them the whole time during the TB cycle. last week decided to come off the pain killers and all my pains appeared the next day! this tells me that all the "healing" I though was due to TB it was actually the pain killers.

the reason I credited TB because I was always on OTC pain killers but they did little. it was a coincidence I took prescribed pain killers in the middle of TB cycle and without thinking too much about it I credited to TB. well I am sad to say that I was too hopeful for TB, I got one more shot to go but I doubt it will make a difference.

sadly my conclusion TB didn't do shit for me! tomorrow I am seeing my TRT doc for pain management. unless the next shot surprises me I consider this log has come to an end.

thanks everyone for following and contributing.

**Hazard** · 10-22-2013, 08:15 PM

Son of a bitch lol - ah well

**bartman314** · 10-22-2013, 10:42 PM

interesting log bass. do you mind sharing the prescription pain killer/dose you went on?

**bass** · 10-23-2013, 09:00 AM

Mobic 15 mgs ed. it makes me bloated and gain weight, that's why I am seeing my TRT doc, need something with less sides.

**mr.slippyfist69** · 05-22-2015, 08:14 PM

does anyone here think there could be any relief for bone spurs with this PEP? If not what could help? I know surgery is on the horizon because ortho told me so but would like to avoid it till the off-season

**lovbyts** · 05-24-2015, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by mr.slippyfist69

does anyone here think there could be any relief for bone spurs with this PEP? If not what could help? I know surgery is on the horizon because ortho told me so but would like to avoid it till the off-season

I would be sure to give it a try before surgery. It's a cheap and easy way to find out and couldn't do any harm.

**jimmyinkedup** · 05-24-2015, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by mr.slippyfist69

does anyone here think there could be any relief for bone spurs with this PEP? If not what could help? I know surgery is on the horizon because ortho told me so but would like to avoid it till the off-season

I do not know enough about bone spurs to say for sure. I have primarily associated tb500 with muscle, tendon, ligament type injuries. That being said if inflammation is a part of a bone spur type scenario I def fel tb500 will help. Its anti inflammatory properties seem to bring a great bit of relief. In my case they allowed Physical therapy to be performed with a level of intensity that pre tb I was unable to achieve. This and the very healing properties of tb500 sped up the healing process significantly. In fact I was at a standstill with a shoulder injury, spinning my wheels doing pt making no progress. Once the tb kicked in, the pt improved, and healing process finally began.

**mr.slippyfist69** · 05-25-2015, 11:08 AM

Placed my order on Thursday to see what happens. I know the stuff works for tendons because I had used it post-op for Lab(slap) tear and rotator(s). PT told me he'd never seen such a quick and sturdy bounce back from a surgery such as this.

**bass** · 06-10-2015, 11:43 AM

unfortunately the only way to get rid of bone spur pain is to surgically remove the spur! Spurs are sharp and dig into your tendons, that's where the pain come from. Like Jimmy my understanding of TB is more for muscle and tendons. but curious to know how TB will work for you. keep us posted.

**Johnnyoliva** · 04-01-2016, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by bass

unfortunately the only way to get rid of bone spur pain is to surgically remove the spur! Spurs are sharp and dig into your tendons, that's where the pain come from. Like Jimmy my understanding of TB is more for muscle and tendons. but curious to know how TB will work for you. keep us posted.

Hows all the injuries holding up? Im about to start TB I'm thinking 2.5 mg twice a week for 8 weeks than just 2.5 mg once a month one time. Do you think that regiment can workout smooth for me?

Im 20 years old still healing from
labrum repair in left shoulder last April
Rotator cuff Tendinosis in right shoulder(4months)- no injury just developed
Quadricep Tendinosis in both knees(2 months)- no injury just developed

Im just going to take the TB500 alone not with anything else and continue my physical therapy through the whole thing, any other thoughts you have on this is much appreciated

**bass** · 04-01-2016, 02:34 PM

since it didn't work for me i can't give you advice, but you should check out TimeRoman's log, good information there.

Roman's TB-500 log...........

**Times Roman** · 04-04-2016, 09:30 PM

I just finished a TB cycle, and after 16mg and 8 weeks, the tendonitis hasn't cleared all the way up. So now I'm wondering if my "source" may have cut back and "watered down" this peptide?

Either way, I'm scrambling for a new source.

More soon.....

---Roman

**bass** · 04-05-2016, 04:04 PM

that sucks TR, this stuff is not cheap, but that's what you get with UGLs, inconsistency.

**GirlyGymRat** · 04-05-2016, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

I just finished a TB cycle, and after 16mg and 8 weeks, the tendonitis hasn't cleared all the way up. So now I'm wondering if my "source" may have cut back and "watered down" this peptide? Either way, I'm scrambling for a new source. More soon..... ---Roman

Don't laugh....I had tendonitis in elbow for months....and I google and found a C rated YouTube vid of a older gent applying oil packs to elbow with gauze, Saran Wrap and a cut off sock....and I was desperate for relief so I tried it for 2 - 3 weeks later adding DMSO gel recommended by Kelkel. No problems since!!!

I said no laughing. Lol

**AllKindsOGains** · 04-05-2016, 11:03 PM

Pm my man

**Times Roman** · 04-10-2016, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat

Don't laugh....I had tendonitis in elbow for months....and I google and found a C rated YouTube vid of a older gent applying oil packs to elbow with gauze, Saran Wrap and a cut off sock....and I was desperate for relief so I tried it for 2 - 3 weeks later adding DMSO gel recommended by Kelkel. No problems since!!!

I said no laughing. Lol

the reality is, sweetie, is that it was the DMSO that did the trick. All the other stuff about wrapping up your arm with dirty sweat socks is just icing on the cake.

The problem with DMSO, for me are as follows:

1) Skin irritant - after a few days, my skin becomes irritated
2) Bad Breath - it gives off the odor of garlic. not good to have that on your breath!

I still have DMSO here at the house.

I'm glad it worked for you!

-R

**GirlyGymRat** · 04-10-2016, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

the reality is, sweetie, is that it was the DMSO that did the trick. All the other stuff about wrapping up your arm with dirty sweat socks is just icing on the cake. The problem with DMSO, for me are as follows: 1) Skin irritant - after a few days, my skin becomes irritated 2) Bad Breath - it gives off the odor of garlic. not good to have that on your breath! I still have DMSO here at the house. I'm glad it worked for you! -R

I too get the irritated skin. Have to use sparingly.

. And it DOES stink. Lol

**AllKindsOGains** · 04-10-2016, 08:14 PM

Appreciate the log Bass. There are a lot of other beneficial peps out there to help with tendonitis and other inflammation issues, and all other injuries in general for that matter. If you haven't looked into them yet I recommend Igf-1 lr3 and BPC-157. These have tremendous healing and anabolic capabilities, and im going to do a writeup on my experiences with these here soon.

**Kitchenman1** · 05-14-2017, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by Times Roman

the reality is, sweetie, is that it was the DMSO that did the trick. All the other stuff about wrapping up your arm with dirty sweat socks is just icing on the cake.

The problem with DMSO, for me are as follows:

1) Skin irritant - after a few days, my skin becomes irritated
2) Bad Breath - it gives off the odor of garlic. not good to have that on your breath!

I still have DMSO here at the house.

I'm glad it worked for you!

-R

So RT what was the final results of your TB-500 program. Did you ever stack GHRP-6 to speed recovery?

**Obs** · 05-14-2017, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by bass

Mobic 15 mgs ed. it makes me bloated and gain weight, that's why I am seeing my TRT doc, need something with less sides.

Deca my man. They put me on mobic for my RA, it was an oversexed ibuprophen.
Deca did more for me than cortisone injections and mobic combined.
Just saw this thread was older than piss. Sorry.