Test E and Dbol first cycle

**Haro3** · 10-30-2006, 09:36 PM

yea i was startin to wonder if anyone was watchin anymore lol

**IBdmfkr** · 10-30-2006, 09:44 PM

Still watchin big guy.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 10-31-2006, 03:16 PM

same here.

**Haro3** · 10-31-2006, 08:29 PM

today was lats/bi's and was definately a strong workout. for lats i did weighted wide grip pull ups got 5 reps with +90lbs and 7 reps with 70lbs and thats alllllllthe way stretched at the bottom. then hammer curls, hammer rows, hammer strength machine pull downs and alternating curls. great workout. strength jumped up again in all lifts very noticeable today. could be test kickin in...?

**ironaddict69** · 11-01-2006, 02:48 AM

yes, its test kicking in. being as dbols already gave you its worth. get ready for a RIDE.

**lil-SLIM** · 11-01-2006, 03:36 PM

great thread man, been following it for some time

20lbs in 4 .5 weeks is awesome!

my question is how does that weight look on you?

By that I mean do u think that weight feels and looks like alot of muscle w/definition or do u think its more like u just look bigger all around and its possibly alot of water?

just a curious newb

try to get us some pics

**Haro3** · 11-01-2006, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by lil-SLIM

great thread man, been following it for some time

20lbs in 4 .5 weeks is awesome!

my question is how does that weight look on you?

By that I mean do u think that weight feels and looks like alot of muscle w/definition or do u think its more like u just look bigger all around and its possibly alot of water?

just a curious newb

try to get us some pics

well i look bigger, slightly more defined, lil more vascular, just bulkier for the most part its not 20lbs of solid muscle by anymeans. im definately holding water tho how much i really dont know. ill post pics in another week

**Haro3** · 11-02-2006, 10:54 AM

today makes the end of 5 weeks and im at exactly 224lbs in the morning putting me 20lbs up. i have not upped my diet as i probably should...but for fear of putting on fat ihavent done so. yesterday was shoulders and i pressed 105's for 7 good reps on seated military press. my shoulders were on fire by the end of my workout but it was a good work out. i tried doing some abs but got a charlie horse in my abs ever had that? it SUX most intense cramp i've ever had, so abs got cut out of yesterdays routine. today is an off day and tomorrow is quads/calves, today is also an injection day right quad today.

**king6** · 11-03-2006, 07:48 PM

Good stuff. I'll probably be doing the same cycle in a few months.

**ironaddict69** · 11-04-2006, 03:08 AM

good job Haro. you probably just got a killer pump. regardless missing 1 ab workout wont matter, realize you wprked out pretty damn hard before that. were all pretty damn anxious for the pics. just post em, we all know 20 lbs is HUGE GAIN!!!!!

**Haro3** · 11-04-2006, 11:05 AM

yea ill post them soon but i havent changed much just bulkier. actually i lost 2 lbs which im pretty pissed about but oh well. im ending dbol this thursday

**ironaddict69** · 11-04-2006, 01:41 PM

dude its the water, dont obsess over it. i know easier said than done, i ****in freak when i lose weight, but the test is gunna solidify the gains.

**Haro3** · 11-04-2006, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by ironaddict69

dude its the water, dont obsess over it. i know easier said than done, i ****in freak when i lose weight, but the test is gunna solidify the gains.

yea im not TOOO worried about it just kinda bothers you when u keep going up then outta no where you drop a couple lbs. but i upped my arimidex the other day so im sure thats why.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 11-04-2006, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Haro3

yea im not TOOO worried about it just kinda bothers you when u keep going up then outta no where you drop a couple lbs. but i upped my arimidex the other day so im sure thats why.

Your body can only handle so much weight at a time. Adding 20+lbs on your body in 4 weeks is very unhealthy by the way. Personally during this time if I were you I would focus on cutting up , thus keeping more overall weight gain to a minumum.

**Haro3** · 11-04-2006, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

Your body can only handle so much weight at a time. Adding 20+lbs on your body in 4 weeks is very unhealthy by the way. Personally during this time if I were you I would focus on cutting up , thus keeping more overall weight gain to a minumum.

hellmask i respect you and your opinions but this statement seems a lil contriversial....you say focus on cutting up but...what would justify a bulking cycle then? you say its unhealthy but look at how many people put on20+ lbs cuz thats their goal and its condoned by majority on the board. this is a bulking cycle so for bulking i think putting on 20lbs would mean i have acomplished the goal of the cycle...dont u think...? and i cant just change from bulking to cutting mid way through cycle it would be detrimental to all of my gains... i started the cycle with the intention of bulking and thats how ill finish.

hope i didnt come off as a dick that post just kinda caught me the wrong way. i respect ur views/opions keep em coming good or bad bro

**ironaddict69** · 11-04-2006, 06:40 PM

no haro, your right. while its hard on ur body, ur not just gunna fall dead one day or nothin. but after this youd definitely wanna work on dropping fat and maintaining muscle for a while. let ur body adjust. dont change ur cycle

**Haro3** · 11-04-2006, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by ironaddict69

no haro, your right. while its hard on ur body, ur not just gunna fall dead one day or nothin. but after this youd definitely wanna work on dropping fat and maintaining muscle for a while. let ur body adjust. dont change ur cycle

for sure, ill drop the lbs eventually. i have no desire to be lean in the winter. i dont need to be i know i could look better but im happy at 15% for now. after my cycle is over and i have maintained my mass i will SLOWLY cut cals until i learn how to cut fat. no drastic changes for fear of losing muscle but ill get it done before summer for sure. i took some pics tonight ill post later prolly

**Hellmaskbanned** · 11-04-2006, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Haro3

hellmask i respect you and your opinions but this statement seems a lil contriversial....you say focus on cutting up but...what would justify a bulking cycle then? you say its unhealthy but look at how many people put on20+ lbs cuz thats their goal and its condoned by majority on the board. this is a bulking cycle so for bulking i think putting on 20lbs would mean i have acomplished the goal of the cycle...dont u think...? and i cant just change from bulking to cutting mid way through cycle it would be detrimental to all of my gains... i started the cycle with the intention of bulking and thats how ill finish.

hope i didnt come off as a dick that post just kinda caught me the wrong way. i respect ur views/opions keep em coming good or bad bro

Yeah your right , Your abulkin and your doing a pretty damn good job to!
I was just throwing some ideas out there lol but if your goal is to get bigger than do it! I really didn't mean to turn the cycle into a cutter now, I meant now try to lean bulk to solidify your gains...make them more more solid.But now after your discontinue the dbol , truer gains shall arise....so your doin the right thing. Your body will adapt to this weight , but don't get discouraged about your weight not shooting up so drastically when you discontinue the dbol, cuz it wont. Keep it up big dawg

**Haro3** · 11-04-2006, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

Yeah your right , Your abulkin and your doing a pretty damn good job to!
I was just throwing some ideas out there lol but if your goal is to get bigger than do it! I really didn't mean to turn the cycle into a cutter now, I meant now try to lean bulk to solidify your gains...make them more more solid.But now after your discontinue the dbol , truer gains shall arise....so your doin the right thing. Your body will adapt to this weight , but don't get discouraged about your weight not shooting up so drastically when you discontinue the dbol, cuz it wont. Keep it up big dawg

oh im definately lean bulking have you seen my diet? i believe its pretty good. and im very strict. if i cheat its still descent foods nothing real bad. last cheat meal was a cold cut trio from subway....so thats not horrible. and before that it was deer meat in wheat pasta lol so i think im doing ok il post a pic in a few minutes

**ironaddict69** · 11-04-2006, 07:46 PM

yeah plz do post pics, were all dyin here.

**Haro3** · 11-04-2006, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by ironaddict69

yeah plz do post pics, were all dyin here.

lol i promise they arent anything special i cant see anything yet

**Haro3** · 11-04-2006, 08:10 PM

here ya go this is 224lbs. i know the first pic my lats look unsymetrical but i just wasnt flexed correctly or i was twisted im not sure. and the third pic is a goofy ass pose but i threw it in there anyways

**Hellmaskbanned** · 11-04-2006, 08:23 PM

Looking bigger.
PM me your diet.

**Haro3** · 11-04-2006, 10:20 PM

any other comments? all are welcome. my chest sux feel free to tell me lol. any recomendations on it?

**guest589745** · 11-04-2006, 10:40 PM

Eh, you got that red glow goin on, good indication its eral shit but, I'm not gonna sugar coat it, I don't see much difference ..... yet.

You have a decent amount of size on you to begin with though, which is great.

**Haro3** · 11-04-2006, 11:47 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Eh, you got that red glow goin on, good indication its eral shit but, I'm not gonna sugar coat it, I don't see much difference ..... yet.

You have a decent amount of size on you to begin with though, which is great.

well the only thing i can say is that the first pics i posted were 2 weeks in with about a 8lb gain already. but my body shape/composition has stayed the same. just more size. i can see it in my shoulders and a lil bit in my chest but thats about it. but i look exactly the same and 20lbs heavier soooooo its not fat i guess....

**Haro3** · 11-04-2006, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Eh, you got that red glow goin on, good indication its eral shit but, I'm not gonna sugar coat it, I don't see much difference ..... yet.

You have a decent amount of size on you to begin with though, which is great.

i know its real..well i know its a very well known/respected source but what is the read glow ur talking about???

**bbshaw** · 11-05-2006, 12:13 AM

good job haro, shoulders have definately increased in size and arms also. Keep the updates coming buddy!

**Haro3** · 11-05-2006, 12:16 AM

shoulders are the main place i see it. i know u cant see it cuz im pale and the flash just makes me look whiter but in the gym and the right lighting my shoulders actually show descent striations which i never had....

**Haro3** · 11-05-2006, 12:16 AM

14 people viewing this come on gimme some comments

**guest589745** · 11-05-2006, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by Haro3

i know its real..well i know its a very well known/respected source but what is the read glow ur talking about???

red glow, from what I have experienced and seen many times, people quite often have a red almost sun burned look to them when they are "on".

**Haro3** · 11-05-2006, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

red glow, from what I have experienced and seen many times, people quite often have a red almost sun burned look to them when they are "on".

gotcha...i think i look like casper the F*in ghost lol

**guest589745** · 11-05-2006, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by Haro3

gotcha...i think i look like casper the F*in ghost lol

No way, compared to your previous pics you are much more redish. Your avatar looks like you are sun burnt.

**Haro3** · 11-05-2006, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

No way, compared to your previous pics you are much more redish. Your avatar looks like you are sun burnt.

ha me in my avatar....surnburnt doesnt even describe it. it was horrible

**guest589745** · 11-05-2006, 12:57 AM

were you actually sunburnt ?

**Growingpains** · 11-05-2006, 03:55 AM

Looking good bro. I have been following this thread from the beginning. Do more outer lat evercises to spread the lats out. Also, close grip bench to develop inner chest.

I will be starting a cycle similar to your soon so I am really interested in everything you have to say. Keep up the hard work.

Let's see the wheels!

**lil-SLIM** · 11-05-2006, 09:40 AM

Hey man dont want to sound negative but u do look a lil casperish lol I think maybe this is why u look more defigned in your avator try a tanning bed it makes u look more ripped, but I think that u can see your lookin bigger in those pics good job keep it up

**ironaddict69** · 11-05-2006, 12:29 PM

no haro your lookin good. theres a difference. u musta put alot of weight on ur legs or something tho because that doesnt look like 20 lbs to me (i know u aded 20, im just saying some of thats def. on ur legs) thew test will definitely be good to you. sry again but whats ur test dose?

**Growingpains** · 11-05-2006, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by lil-SLIM

Hey man dont want to sound negative but u do look a lil casperish lol I think maybe this is why u look more defigned in your avator try a tanning bed it makes u look more ripped, but I think that u can see your lookin bigger in those pics good job keep it up

Dude, who cares. He is bulking. Not strutting himself in a speedo on Venis blvd.

**lil-SLIM** · 11-05-2006, 01:14 PM

hahaha your right and to tell u the truth i dont really wanta see any pics of anyone in a speedo lol

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