Test E and Dbol first cycle

**bbshaw** · 12-01-2006, 06:05 AM

Haro how did you dose your dbol ? was it all at once dose or spread out over the day?

**Haro3** · 12-01-2006, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by bbshaw

Haro how did you dose your dbol? was it all at once dose or spread out over the day?

i ran it at 50mg spread out 4 times a day

**guest589745** · 12-01-2006, 11:11 AM

Pics, new pics.

**Haro3** · 12-01-2006, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Pics, new pics.

lol keep it in ur pants slick. i will soon enough i dont think i look different yet. i want there to be noticeable change before i post new pics

**guest589745** · 12-01-2006, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Haro3

lol keep it in ur pants slick. i will soon enough i dont think i look different yet. i want there to be noticeable change before i post new pics

UP THE DOSE !!!!!!!!

**Snrf** · 12-01-2006, 01:14 PM

20lbs will be noticeable man, you just see it 20 times a day so you don't notice it....post some pics.

great thread btw, keep it up

**Haro3** · 12-01-2006, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

UP THE DOSE !!!!!!!!

haha i would but its to late im already starting week 9 of the test. but my next cycle isnt going to be test based. i will have test in there but im going to run other compounds cuz i dont feel i responded as well as i thought to test alone...

**guest589745** · 12-01-2006, 02:42 PM

1.5g - 2g a week total

**Haro3** · 12-01-2006, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

1.5g - 2g a week total

for my next cycle?

**king6** · 12-01-2006, 08:13 PM

Hey Haro,

I'm doing the same cycle in the near future, what is your PCT going to look like?

**Haro3** · 12-01-2006, 08:27 PM

typical clomi/nolva

clomid 300mg day one then 100mg for two weeks and i feel descent ill drop it to 50 until fully recovered if not ill keep it at 100mg a day for as long as neccesary with nolva at either 20 or 40mg a day prolly 40 for 2 weeks then 20 from there after.

ill run adex all the way up to the start of pct as well cuz ill be running winny all the way up to pct although i dont think adex is necesary for winny but still it cant hurt and itll keep pullin the water out of me

so theres a rough idea. i posted it somewhere i just forget where.

i took some pics tonight but i dont like em i looked blaoted/fat for some reason ill post something soon enough

**king6** · 12-01-2006, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Haro3

typical clomi/nolva

clomid 300mg day one then 100mg for two weeks and i feel descent ill drop it to 50 until fully recovered if not ill keep it at 100mg a day for as long as neccesary with nolva at either 20 or 40mg a day prolly 40 for 2 weeks then 20 from there after.

ill run adex all the way up to the start of pct as well cuz ill be running winny all the way up to pct although i dont think adex is necesary for winny but still it cant hurt and itll keep pullin the water out of me

so theres a rough idea. i posted it somewhere i just forget where.

i took some pics tonight but i dont like em i looked blaoted/fat for some reason ill post something soon enough

Do you plan on running clen for an anti catabolic? I'm still trying to decide on that. I know that you should keep cals high on PCT and the clen would help with the fat, as well as any fat you put on during the cycle. Plus clen keeps your cortisol levels low.

**Haro3** · 12-01-2006, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by king6

Do you plan on running clen for an anti catabolic? I'm still trying to decide on that. I know that you should keep cals high on PCT and the clen would help with the fat, as well as any fat you put on during the cycle. Plus clen keeps your cortisol levels low.

i do not know enough about clen to run it right now. i think ill be fine without it. i still have to do some research as to how to come off as far as changing my training/diet so im not 100% sure what im going to do jus yet but as far as drugs go no im not adding anything else. im sure ill add creatine which i havent used in years but ill through it in after my cycle jus to help out.

**Haro3** · 12-01-2006, 09:05 PM

this is me about 222lbs taken tonight, unpumped and what i feel is bloated lol but i cant see a change since my last pics at all....i hope u guys see it

**king6** · 12-01-2006, 09:16 PM

Wow,

I think the stretch marks speak for themselves. I can see the difference, you don't look to bloated either, and the winny should dry you out.

**king6** · 12-01-2006, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by Haro3

i do not know enough about clen to run it right now. i think ill be fine without it. i still have to do some research as to how to come off as far as changing my training/diet so im not 100% sure what im going to do jus yet but as far as drugs go no im not adding anything else. im sure ill add creatine which i havent used in years but ill through it in after my cycle jus to help out.

Yeah you should be fine, the creatine in PCT is a good idea too, I will have to remember that. Other than that your huge man, a regular giaganapithicus.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 12-01-2006, 10:47 PM

I think you look good brutha.

Clear skin ...no acne ...How you do it! lol

**Haro3** · 12-02-2006, 12:35 AM

i did have bacne for a while man but i had my gf really scrub my back for a couple days cuz i have a hard time reachin around to it and then had her put that proactive acne lotion on me it made a 100% difference cleared up in about 3 days. granted it wasnt bad to begin with but ive never had acne on my back and i had prolly 10-15 of those big deep zits that hurt and u cant pop and that shit cleared it right up.....

**guest589745** · 12-02-2006, 09:17 AM

Def a difference man, cool.

Next time try more compounds or a higher dose if you think your diet and training is all good. And of course overeat

**Haro3** · 12-02-2006, 09:49 AM

yea next cycle is gonna be a winner. ill pm it to u

**guest589745** · 12-02-2006, 10:03 AM

back at ya.

you just gotta get bloodowork done to know what you can handle and what you need to do IMO. A must.

**Haro3** · 12-02-2006, 10:15 AM

blood test is comin this week hopefully, i wanted to wait until i was on 80mg of winny before i did it

**Haro3** · 12-03-2006, 12:12 PM

yesterday was back, still strong, not stronger but still just as strong as i've been. morning weight today was 218 which is fine as long as its fat im losing

**chest6** · 12-03-2006, 11:36 PM

Eat More!!! Blah!

**Haro3** · 12-03-2006, 11:38 PM

Originally Posted by chest6

Eat More!!! Blah!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO leave me alone

go cook a chicken breast on ur foreman with ur fan blowing out the window so you dont get caught LOL

**Snrf** · 12-04-2006, 12:39 PM

Yeah man looking good, theres a difference at least.

Did .25mg of arimidex do the job or did you bump it to more?

Will be starting this cycle in about a month.

**Haro3** · 12-04-2006, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Snrfmaster

Yeah man looking good, theres a difference at least.

Did .25mg of arimidex do the job or did you bump it to more?

Will be starting this cycle in about a month.

i was at .25 for a long time then got bloated and had slight nipple sensitivity(probably jus in my head) so i bumped it to 1mg for like 2 weeks then .5 then back to .25 and im pretty sure it even reversed some gyno i already had....if thats possible.

**chest6** · 12-04-2006, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Haro3

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO leave me alone

go cook a chicken breast on ur foreman with ur fan blowing out the window so you dont get caught LOL

I am actually doing that right now....too late

**briancb1** · 12-05-2006, 02:06 PM

looks good bro, you probably wont notice the gains much until you cut it up a little. Good job bro!

**Dangerdan** · 12-05-2006, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by briancb1

looks good bro, you probably wont notice the gains much until you cut it up a little. Good job bro!

you can see gains from your newer set of pics and hopefully you will continue to put on mass.

Briancb1

**Haro3** · 12-05-2006, 07:43 PM

well thx i cant see it so much so i figured i'd see what u guys thought. so far everythings good nothing special yet. winni is kicked in, whicked back pumps, descent strength gains and i'v enoticed increased appetite...

**BigNate** · 12-06-2006, 08:17 AM

Great log, I can definately see the difference. Keep up the good work bro.

**Haro3** · 12-06-2006, 09:33 PM

well tonight was the 3rd leg day cut short due to intense back pumps that are jus unberable after squats. atleast i know the winni is real

. i was 224 today pwo

**Haro3** · 12-07-2006, 07:30 PM

i have noticably more vascularity now and im 2 weeks into the winny at 80mgs a day. so far im happy with winny strength gains are good and the vascularity is comin along.

**Hellmaskbanned** · 12-07-2006, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by Haro3

i have noticably more vascularity now and im 2 weeks into the winny at 80mgs a day. so far im happy with winny strength gains are good and the vascularity is comin along.

Sound good bro!

It should really kick in around the 3rd week, so be prepared.

**Haro3** · 12-07-2006, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

Sound good bro!

It should really kick in around the 3rd week, so be prepared.

cant f*n wait!! hey im gonna shoot u a pm

**thetoponepercent** · 12-08-2006, 02:31 PM

I have really enjoyed reading your journal. I found and read it all last night.

Good luck and I am suscribed.

**Haro3** · 12-08-2006, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by thetoponepercent

I have really enjoyed reading your journal. I found and read it all last night.

Good luck and I am suscribed.

good to hear.

**Snrf** · 12-08-2006, 05:49 PM

post up a sample workout bro, i'd like to see what you've been doing, im sure others would too

**Haro3** · 12-08-2006, 07:02 PM

Originally Posted by Snrfmaster

post up a sample workout bro, i'd like to see what you've been doing, im sure others would too

i will later. but ill say this most wont agree with it. its something me and my old partner did last year and worked well so i decided to try it again basically its

quads/calves
tri's/abs/forearms (this is a half ass chest day since i do mostly dips)
back (thickness, consists of rows, heavy compounds)
off day
hams/calves
chest/abs
lats/bi's
off
shoulders
repeat

something like that i put off days wher ei feel necessary