Test E and Dbol first cycle

[guest589745]

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[Haro3]

of all the intelligent posts u make...this confuses me....lol

[fast]

Yeah man you have definetly put up lean muscle there.

Your girlfriend looks nice

Be careful with DNP !

Take care

Cheers

[thetoponepercent]

lol 15 guest viewing.......jus joine and start posting quit being trolls!!

This is a funny post. Your right, everytime I look at your log you have 5 members and 15 guest!! Your thread was actually the reason I signed up to be a member. I learned so much from it that I felt obligated to say, "great log man". So take Haro's advice and go ahead and sign up already. You can learn so much more once you start to interact with members.

[thetoponepercent]

alright here we go....first two are going to be starting pics sept 18 06 last two pics are jan 12 07 2 weeks into pct with 2 more to go
first two were 205lbs last two 214lbs

if anyone knows how to group pics together for side by side comparsion feel free to do so with both front/back pics i dont know how to use photoshop wortha shit

Nice results!! I think you added 5lbs of muscle mass to your arms alone!!

And you keep saying you feel small. Why? Is it because you are lifting heavier than guys twice your size? Or because you became familiar with the water weight?

[Haro3]

Nice results!! I think you added 5lbs of muscle mass to your arms alone!!

And you keep saying you feel small. Why? Is it because you are lifting heavier than guys twice your size? Or because you became familiar with the water weight?

prolly just got used to being bigger with more bloat. i think i lost some bf% and put on some lbm sooooo...im not gonna complain. jus i've lost .5 inches off my arms etc believe me it fvcks with ur head when it happens even tho u know its going to....

[king6]

Did you take your DBol all at once, or did you split it up throughout the day?

[Hellmaskbanned]

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HA! Total Recall, that's classic.

[Haro3]

Did you take your DBol all at once, or did you split it up throughout the day?

split it up to like 4 times a day

[ironaddict69]

haro, great work to say the least. nice NICE progress. looking swole and solid. id definitel not run dbol next time if i were you though, go with eq or tren !

[guest589745]

HA! Total Recall, that's classic.

Least someone knows what Im talkin aboot!


Sorry to confuse you haro lol.


Try nandrolone next time, maybe 300-400mg a week.

[Haro3]

Least someone knows what Im talkin aboot!


Sorry to confuse you haro lol.


Try nandrolone next time, maybe 300-400mg a week.

meh im thinkin mor elike tren ....

[king6]

meh im thinkin mor elike tren....

Isn't tren too much for a second cycle? I though about it for my second cycle, but most people say to save it for your fourth or fifth cycle, because it's such a strong compound.

[Haro3]

Isn't tren too much for a second cycle? I though about it for my second cycle, but most people say to save it for your fourth or fifth cycle, because it's such a strong compound.

tell me what the difference between ur second and ur fifth is? it'll be a new compound in my second or a new compound in my fifth i see no merrit what so ever to this argument. either way it'll be a new compound when u use it. so all ur doing is waiting....? the only reason i could see behind this is so that ur experienced enough. meaning that u have done the newbie cycles and realize what it takes to grow and could maximize ur growth from such a strong compound. and if thats the case i believe im ready, i know what needs to be done, the precautions etc, so i see no reason why i cant put it in my second...know what i mean?

[Snrf]

I agree with you haro, but I think part of the argument is that people want to attain the max growth they can get out of say, Deca first.

I agree with you though, I've seen people run tren for a 2nd cycle and get HEEEEYUGE! good luck to you anyway, i wanna see a log for that one too!

[boxer1]

good results fella, just a couple of questions, are you glad you added the winny? did it dry your joints as bad as they say it does. I'm thinking about adding it to my cycle, toss up between winny and var.

[king6]

tell me what the difference between ur second and ur fifth is? it'll be a new compound in my second or a new compound in my fifth i see no merrit what so ever to this argument. either way it'll be a new compound when u use it. so all ur doing is waiting....? the only reason i could see behind this is so that ur experienced enough. meaning that u have done the newbie cycles and realize what it takes to grow and could maximize ur growth from such a strong compound. and if thats the case i believe im ready, i know what needs to be done, the precautions etc, so i see no reason why i cant put it in my second...know what i mean?

Good point, I wont throw out the idea of using tren in my second cycle then. On paper it look friggen awsome, I have heard the sides are harsh though, but like with any compound it depends on the individual.

From what I have read about using tren in later cycles, is people argue that because tren is so powerful you want to run a few anabolic compounds first to get you body use to steroids , and before introducing such a strong compound into your system. But if you have already run one cycle, then I agree with you that you could run it for a second. Because you already know how your body reacts to steroids, so you are only adding and additional compound to the test that you have already run.

[S431M7]

when did u started this cycle? what is your current stat?

Thanks

Cycle:
1-4 dbol 30mg/day
1-12 test e 500mg 2 shots at 250 thursday/monday
1-12 arimidex .25mg

first shot 10mins ago in left quad went great! nice and slow and no pain yet, massaged the area and hoping no pain arises, todays an off day so im going to go do some cardio and hope that helps to keep my leg from getting sore

starting stats:

weight 204lbs
height 6'
bf: (ill post later im doing bod pod next week)
arms 17"
legs 24"
chest 45"
calves 16"
forearm 14.5"

wish me luck

[Haro3]

good results fella, just a couple of questions, are you glad you added the winny? did it dry your joints as bad as they say it does. I'm thinking about adding it to my cycle, toss up between winny and var.

winni was descent, arms got more vascular but i let my diet go to hell the last 3 weeks of the cycle so i didnt really have much leaning out from it. i think i could have had alot more. i did notice my shoulders KILLED me for about a week (last week of cycle) but i dunno if that was an injury from heavy presses (just over did it) or the more i thought about it possibly the joint issues with winny....all in all i liked it. but my next cycle is going to have var in it. if you can afford it i like the stuff i read on var...BUT! i highly advice blood tests with any oral i've heard var is hard on cholesterol so i will have mine done regularly. also from here on out all my cycles/supplement intake will be monitored by a doctor with strong aas knowledge.

and for the tren ......i dont see how people say your body gets "use" to steroids . thats like saying u build up a resistance to it....butttttttttt ur throwing in a new compound, a compound ur body has never seen therefore ur body cant have a resistance to it or an immunity against it see what im saying?

[Haro3]

when did u started this cycle? what is your current stat?

Thanks

those stats were at the start of cycle. current stats...

arms: 17.75"
legs: 25.5"
calves: 16" (alot leaner/more defined tho)
chest: 48"
forearms: 14.5" but significantly more vascular

at around ~214lbs

[Hellmaskbanned]

Personally I would run Deca over Tren . I've never used tren because of what I've read on it. What it does to stamina, sides some experience etc. Hear it's one kick ass drug if it fits to your goals though! Go for it. I miss deca .

Whens your next cycle start?

[guest589745]

meh im thinkin mor elike tren....

never tried it so I cant recomend it to you.

[S431M7]

Don't u think u could have made that these improvement without the roid cycle? And who is that in your avater BTW?

those stats were at the start of cycle. current stats...

arms: 17.75"
legs: 25.5"
calves: 16" (alot leaner/more defined tho)
chest: 48"
forearms: 14.5" but significantly more vascular

at around ~214lbs

[Snrf]

Don't u think u could have made that these improvement without the roid cycle? And who is that in your avater BTW?

wtf? is that any of your business?

[king6]

wtf? is that any of your business?

[ironaddict69]

Personally I would run Deca over Tren . I've never used tren because of what I've read on it. What it does to stamina, sides some experience etc. Hear it's one kick ass drug if it fits to your goals though! Go for it. I miss deca .

Whens your next cycle start?

I thought tren improved stamina? hellmask what exactly turned you off to tren side wise? id like the agression, can deca do the same thing?

[Haro3]

Don't u think u could have made that these improvement without the roid cycle? And who is that in your avater BTW?

could i have made those changes naturally, sure i could have but probably about 6 months longer......i dont see your reasoning? i personally think that "genetic potential" stuff is a bunch of crap and i felt i was ready so i did it and glad i did, happy with my results..

the avatar is my GF

[Hellmaskbanned]

I thought tren improved stamina? hellmask what exactly turned you off to tren side wise? id like the agression, can deca do the same thing?

Tren hurts stamina greatly.
Turned me off, Tren cough, night sweats, Aggression,hard on kidneys.
If it fit my goals I would run it no prob, its not a performance drug its a great bbing drug.
Deca 's great for mass/healing properties, low sides/besides Nandrolone being hard on the HPTA, but so is tren.



And haro , those gains you made , why did you cycle? 15lbs of muscle while losing bodyfat can be accomplished in 3 weeks........HA! Your build will be great, your already built well.


"Oxandrolone is the only steroid in which a carbon atom within the phenanthrene nucleus has been replaced by another element, namely oxygen. In addition, oxandrolone is cleared by the kidney and not the liver, so hepatotoxicity is rare."


You might want to try 10 weeks with var, considering your on tren aswell. Don't wanna punish the ol kidneys to much. had to...
I'm soon to start a 10 week var run myself. I'll tell you how it goes if your interested. Goal to drop BF% really low.

[Haro3]

Tren hurts stamina greatly.
Turned me off, Tren cough, night sweats, Aggression,hard on kidneys.
If it fit my goals I would run it no prob, its not a performance drug its a great bbing drug.
Deca 's great for mass/healing properties, low sides/besides Nandrolone being hard on the HPTA, but so is tren.



And haro , those gains you made , why did you cycle? 15lbs of muscle while losing bodyfat can be accomplished in 3 weeks........HA! Your build will be great, your already built well.


"Oxandrolone is the only steroid in which a carbon atom within the phenanthrene nucleus has been replaced by another element, namely oxygen. In addition, oxandrolone is cleared by the kidney and not the liver, so hepatotoxicity is rare."


You might want to try 10 weeks with var, considering your on tren aswell. Don't wanna punish the ol kidneys to much. had to...
I'm soon to start a 10 week var run myself. I'll tell you how it goes if your interested. Goal to drop BF% really low.

yea be sure to keep me posted on ur cycle. what you know/think bout dnp hellmask?? thinkin bout throwing it in my pct for its anti catabolic effects and lose a lil bf then rebound back into bulking...makes sense to me but i've never ran it before

[Hellmaskbanned]

yea be sure to keep me posted on ur cycle. what you know/think bout dnp hellmask?? thinkin bout throwing it in my pct for its anti catabolic effects and lose a lil bf then rebound back into bulking...makes sense to me but i've never ran it before

Really don't know much on dnp . Don't really want to try it either. Same goes with clen , ephedra etc.

[Haro3]

Really don't know much on dnp. Don't really want to try it either. Same goes with clen, ephedra etc.

coo jus curious...

[guest589745]

**** DNP and all other stimulants.

[Haro3]

so i've been REALLY hungry lately. like an hour after a meal im hungry and i never get that...could it be anything pct related...?

[guest589745]

so i've been REALLY hungry lately. like an hour after a meal im hungry and i never get that...could it be anything pct related...?

Then eat!! EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT !!

[Haro3]

Then eat!! EAT EAT EAT EAT EAT !!

dont need to worry bout geting fat? thought cuz of high estro during pct its easier to put on fat?

hey i sent u a pm

[guest589745]

dont need to worry bout geting fat? thought cuz of high estro during pct its easier to put on fat?

hey i sent u a pm

Well your ancilleries should still combat high estrogen and you need to still have an adequate amount of calories to sustain the newly attained muscle.

Just eat clean and you dont have to worry about gettign fat IMO.

[Haro3]

Well your ancilleries should still combat high estrogen and you need to still have an adequate amount of calories to sustain the newly attained muscle.

Just eat clean and you dont have to worry about gettign fat IMO.

ight if u say so

[guest589745]

ight if u say so

Well like I said, dont let me make up your mind, I am just stating my opinion, thast all I can do.

[S431M7]

that's good to know. BTW are u considering another cycle after this? if so how many more cycle do u plan to go thru over the next 2 to 3 years? How many weeks of breaks do u oftentime take between a cycle?
Hey your GF is hot. I'm sure u are proud of her.

could i have made those changes naturally, sure i could have but probably about 6 months longer......i dont see your reasoning? i personally think that "genetic potential" stuff is a bunch of crap and i felt i was ready so i did it and glad i did, happy with my results..

the avatar is my GF

[Haro3]

that's good to know. BTW are u considering another cycle after this? if so how many more cycle do u plan to go thru over the next 2 to 3 years? How many weeks of breaks do u oftentime take between a cycle?
Hey your GF is hot. I'm sure u are proud of her.

yea there will be another and then another after that and after taht...i actually want to go somewhere with this sport. but all my cycles are now under doctor supervision and everything is monitored very closely along with frequent blood work. u cant be to careful. time between cycles if i need to take "time on +pct" to be back to normal than thats what ill do. if im recovered 3 weeks after pct then i might start then. my doc will tell me when my body can handle being on again