Test E and Dbol first cycle

**thetoponepercent** · 01-15-2007, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Haro3

yea there will be another and then another after that and after taht...i actually want to go somewhere with this sport. but all my cycles are now under doctor supervision and everything is monitored very closely along with frequent blood work. u cant be to careful. time between cycles if i need to take "time on +pct" to be back to normal than thats what ill do. if im recovered 3 weeks after pct then i might start then. my doc will tell me when my body can handle being on again

How do you have such a cool relationship with your Dr? Was it someone you know or did you just schedule an appointment and tell him the deal?

**Haro3** · 01-15-2007, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by thetoponepercent

How do you have such a cool relationship with your Dr? Was it someone you know or did you just schedule an appointment and tell him the deal?

actually its a girl and she has an amazing knowledge on aas. shes just a friend of a friend that i got intouch with

**S431M7** · 01-15-2007, 02:45 PM

Now i see why experience bb mean by "AAS is a lifestyle not just a single experience of lifetime". there must be some truth to that statement !
Anyways, good luck on the next cycle, and "i will be back again"

Originally Posted by Haro3

yea there will be another and then another after that and after taht...i actually want to go somewhere with this sport. but all my cycles are now under doctor supervision and everything is monitored very closely along with frequent blood work. u cant be to careful. time between cycles if i need to take "time on +pct" to be back to normal than thats what ill do. if im recovered 3 weeks after pct then i might start then. my doc will tell me when my body can handle being on again

**king6** · 01-15-2007, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by Haro3

actually its a girl and she has an amazing knowledge on aas. shes just a friend of a friend that i got intouch with

I need one of those.

**Haro3** · 01-16-2007, 09:25 AM

pct update:

still 0 sex drive......hey when u dont put out for a few days ur gf's start begging for it AHAHAHA the tables have turned!

butttttttttttt my balls are back to normal (if not larger) than usual size. and im 1.5 weeks into pct. thursday makes 2 weeks exactly.

**king6** · 01-16-2007, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Haro3

pct update:

still 0 sex drive......hey when u dont put out for a few days ur gf's start begging for it AHAHAHA the tables have turned!

butttttttttttt my balls are back to normal (if not larger) than usual size. and im 1.5 weeks into pct. thursday makes 2 weeks exactly.

You could take some tongkat for your libido. Can you get it up? Or do you just not have the desire to have sex?

**Haro3** · 01-16-2007, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by king6

You could take some tongkat for your libido. Can you get it up? Or do you just not have the desire to have sex?

oh no i can get it up and i have no problem actually having sex but i jus dont have the desire. normally i'd be raping her every night before bed lol but now i jus go to sleep.

**king6** · 01-16-2007, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Haro3

oh no i can get it up and i have no problem actually having sex but i jus dont have the desire. normally i'd be raping her every night before bed lol but now i jus go to sleep.

You have the upper hand now.

**thetoponepercent** · 01-16-2007, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Haro3

pct update:

still 0 sex drive......hey when u dont put out for a few days ur gf's start begging for it AHAHAHA the tables have turned!

butttttttttttt my balls are back to normal (if not larger) than usual size. and im 1.5 weeks into pct. thursday makes 2 weeks exactly.

I love it. Sweet revenge for all the guys out there that are with women that hold back. I say keep your pimp hand strong and make her continue to beg even after you are 100% recovered!!

On a more serious note - how many days after your last injection did you loose your sex drive? It feels funny talking about this, but I want to know what to expect at the end of my cycle since my sex drive is very important to me.

**Haro3** · 01-16-2007, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by thetoponepercent

I love it. Sweet revenge for all the guys out there that are with women that hold back. I say keep your pimp hand strong and make her continue to beg even after you are 100% recovered!!

On a more serious note - how many days after your last injection did you loose your sex drive? It feels funny talking about this, but I want to know what to expect at the end of my cycle since my sex drive is very important to me.

honestly i didnt notice a loss in sex drive until i started clomid/nolva....

**Haro3** · 01-18-2007, 07:40 PM

today is the start of the third week of pct and im starting to break out across my chest/shoulders. nothing bad maybe 7-10 spots but i never break out so thats above normal....other than that no sides no probs yet. weight stabalized at 214 for the most part. strength is still good except for the added dnp is causing me to become weaker due to glycogen depletion but nothing major.

**ACE24** · 01-19-2007, 04:47 AM

So Haro, how would you rate your first cycle? Are you satisfied with the results, what would you do differently, what are your thoughts for your next cycle?

**Foskamink** · 01-19-2007, 04:52 AM

Originally Posted by ACE24

So Haro, how would you rate your first cycle? Are you satisfied with the results, what would you do differently, what are your thoughts for your next cycle?

yeh mate great gains looking jacked!

**Haro3** · 01-19-2007, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by ACE24

So Haro, how would you rate your first cycle? Are you satisfied with the results, what would you do differently, what are your thoughts for your next cycle?

definately satisfied. wish i had trained with more intensity and not let my diet get off course at the end...i woulda been leaner had i done thise but all in all good cycle. next one is most likely test/tren

**thetoponepercent** · 01-19-2007, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Haro3

definately satisfied. wish i had trained with more intensity and not let my diet get off course at the end...i woulda been leaner had i done thise but all in all good cycle. next one is most likely test/tren

So many guys are always talking about over training. Some have said I do too much but I have seen huge results in strength gain. I am torn between sticking with what is getting me the gains and taking the advice from others. You say you wish you would have trained with more intensity, how so? I don't like to leave the gym until the muscle group I am working is destroyed. Regardless of how sets it takes? Was this how you trained?

I know I am asking lots of questions, but I do not want to look back and regret anything in the way I trained. Thanks in advanced.

**ironaddict69** · 01-19-2007, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by thetoponepercent

So many guys are always talking about over training. Some have said I do too much but I have seen huge results in strength gain. I am torn between sticking with what is getting me the gains and taking the advice from others. You say you wish you would have trained with more intensity, how so? I don't like to leave the gym until the muscle group I am working is destroyed. Regardless of how sets it takes? Was this how you trained?

I know I am asking lots of questions, but I do not want to look back and regret anything in the way I trained. Thanks in advanced.

I have done the same thing, trained till death, since i was 17. even back then i was stronger than 98% of the people in the gym.

**crazycrab** · 01-19-2007, 01:51 PM

Good job Haro3, your chest and and back made good gains. Keep it up bro.

**Haro3** · 01-19-2007, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by thetoponepercent

So many guys are always talking about over training. Some have said I do too much but I have seen huge results in strength gain. I am torn between sticking with what is getting me the gains and taking the advice from others. You say you wish you would have trained with more intensity, how so? I don't like to leave the gym until the muscle group I am working is destroyed. Regardless of how sets it takes? Was this how you trained?

I know I am asking lots of questions, but I do not want to look back and regret anything in the way I trained. Thanks in advanced.

see i would go into the gym sayin to myself "ok you have 15 sets to destroy your back/chest whatever" and i would force myself to do the heaviest/most work in those 15 sets as possible. on the days i drug ass i drug ass but at 15 sets i was done etc. once i've been in the gym an hour im done i leave cuz anything longer im jus not getting a damn thing done....

**thetoponepercent** · 01-19-2007, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by Haro3

see i would go into the gym sayin to myself "ok you have 15 sets to destroy your back/chest whatever" and i would force myself to do the heaviest/most work in those 15 sets as possible. on the days i drug ass i drug ass but at 15 sets i was done etc. once i've been in the gym an hour im done i leave cuz anything longer im jus not getting a damn thing done....

I have read that after an hour at the gym you are not working at peak ability, but my workouts just take longer. What are you going to do differently next time?

**Haro3** · 01-20-2007, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by thetoponepercent

I have read that after an hour at the gym you are not working at peak ability, but my workouts just take longer. What are you going to do differently next time?

jus train more intense. and really focus on my muscles doing the work..

**king6** · 01-24-2007, 04:04 PM

Hey Haro,

2 questions,

1. What week would you say your test kicked in.
2. What week did your gains level off.

**Haro3** · 01-24-2007, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by king6

Hey Haro,

2 questions,

1. What week would you say your test kicked in.
2. What week did your gains level off.

UMMMMMMM kick in i'd say week 5 or 6

Level off...........i was still growing at the end...coulda gone longer but decided not too

**Vegas1973** · 01-28-2007, 06:19 PM

Good read. Seems like you were happy enough with the results to think about another one down the road a bit.

**Haro3** · 01-28-2007, 10:21 PM

yup test/tren /masteron next cycle

**Haro3** · 01-28-2007, 10:21 PM

and i triple posted

**Haro3** · 01-28-2007, 10:21 PM

......again

**bbshaw** · 01-30-2007, 02:37 AM

Haro, Hows your libido going? This is what I am most afraid about when I finish my cycle.

**Haro3** · 01-30-2007, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by bbshaw

Haro, Hows your libido going? This is what I am most afraid about when I finish my cycle.

its back. well my balls are normal size and i do get turned on. but NOTHING like when i was on cycle...so it still feels low but i know its not. just not as high as it was during cycle...if that makes sense

**Haro3** · 01-31-2007, 04:27 PM

did the bod pod again today. beginnning of cycle i was 204lbs 15.5% i was 207 today at 13%. thats about a 7lb lbm increase and drop in bf%...i can live with that. although i wish i had done a few things differently towards the end i may have held onto more muscle but for a first cycle i can definately live with that.

**Peducho0113** · 02-12-2007, 03:24 PM

Bro, you seem like did not keep a lot of muscle, but I think you can live with it. Do yo any pictures for us to look at? that will give us a better idea of your results.

**Haro3** · 02-12-2007, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by Peducho0113

Bro, you seem like did not keep a lot of muscle, but I think you can live with it. Do yo any pictures for us to look at? that will give us a better idea of your results.

yea i lost alot of my gains due to the dnp /getting deathly sick but im lower bf% and i look better soo ill post pics later

**Haro3** · 02-14-2007, 05:20 PM

updated pics 1st 2 are beginning cycle last two are from a few days ago first weight was 204 last weight was 208lbs

**juju** · 02-14-2007, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Haro3

yea i lost alot of my gains due to the dnp/getting deathly sick but im lower bf% and i look better soo ill post pics later

I had same problem also. Even lost interest in lifting. Was feeling depressed - lost my job at that time too. That was early 2006. I started lifting again November last year, trained heavy and eating clean. In 3 months, got all my gains from 1st cycle back. I thought I lost the gains but actually I got bigger this time. Thinking of 2nd cycle in the next 2 months of Test E, EQ and Dbol .

So no worries bro... I think your body is just telling you to take some time off after so many weeks of intense training.

Good luck!

**king6** · 02-14-2007, 07:43 PM

Still looking swole.

**Haro3** · 02-14-2007, 10:33 PM

thx man when i see the beginning and now side by side i can see it i just dont feel it

**ironaddict69** · 02-15-2007, 03:51 AM

trust me haro ur bigger. arms are impressive and so are sholders when at sides. this is another reason to avoid the heavily aromatizeable drugs like dbol , its false. your next cycle consiting of tren /mast/and test couldnt be wiser. im doing the same thing in about 4 weeks! we should keep ech other posted. im 190 at 5'11. my pics are in the picutres forumn actually. Natural, only on HRT

**Haro3** · 02-15-2007, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by ironaddict69

trust me haro ur bigger. arms are impressive and so are sholders when at sides. this is another reason to avoid the heavily aromatizeable drugs like dbol, its false. your next cycle consiting of tren/mast/and test couldnt be wiser. im doing the same thing in about 4 weeks! we should keep ech other posted. im 190 at 5'11. my pics are in the picutres forumn actually. Natural, only on HRT

cool as long as u guys see a difference then i guess its there