Test E, Tren E, Anadrol log

[fattymcbutterpants]

ok guys dont pay to much attention to my last post i was pissed off is why i was saying i didnt think it was really working that great i was just in a bad mood and being negative but its all good now. Todays workout went pretty well My shoulder press increased by about 5lbs and my squat has definately gone up some more. I have started to use the smith machine due to some pain i was having in my knee and hip and it seems to take a little stress off of them so i am going to use it for a couple weeks i think then go back to normal squats. But today was intense i was lifting hard and really killed it on squats because i havent been able to work my legs out much lately. But i about got sick and felt like puking but i was fine a little later so its all good

[fattymcbutterpants]

hey quick question guys, what do you think would give me better strength results overall. Running a higher dose of tren for 2 weeks or dropping the dose slightly for 3 weeks or do you think there would be any difference?

Thanks

[tprop]

dude the reason your not gaining weight is b/c of diet keep protein at 200-250 and up fat by 30 grams and carbs by like 100grams you should get at least 3,000 cals a day just read labels of food and stuff your self if u have to.You wont get that fat your so lean anyway!

[fattymcbutterpants]

right now man im already getting in about the 250g-300g of protein a day somedays a little more somedays a little less. And Carb wise i think im at about the 450g area and calories best guess is around 3500-4000. And i think im getting about 75-90g of fat already which i think is a pretty decent amount lol i dont think it would be smart to up that anymore. Calories i could probably use a few more and somedays when i dont have a chance to eat as much as usual i fall behind on protein and carbs but normally i stick pretty close to the range stated

[jc95605]

Well one thing you can do is instead of drinking your protein shakes, take a weight gainer instead. Those have more carbs and calories. It'll help you put on the weight. Since your so lean already, you probably won't have a problem cutting after your done bulking.

[fattymcbutterpants]

I actually just started taking Mass XXX yesterday to help make sure im getting in my calories and carbs. Im taking it about an hour and a half before i workout not sure if that is the best time or not but it has 50 or 60g of protein i think and like 130g of carbs and about 800cals per shake so it has alot lol

[jc95605]

I would take it no more than an hour b4 my workout. Thats just me tho.

[fattymcbutterpants]

O ok the only reason i was taking it that far before is its a total of 8oz of powder and 16oz of water and it tends to make you feel really fully and kinda sloshy. But i will try it an hour before tomorrow and see how it goes

[Dinosaur]

well just woundering are you really sure ur gear is legit. how much you trust your source.
since your over a mounth to ur cycle and not been noticing a big change.
and i don't think the answer to gainning more is by juicing more, just my thought.

[jc95605]

well just woundering are you really sure ur gear is legit. how much you trust your source.
since your over a mounth to ur cycle and not been noticing a big change.
and i don't think the answer to gainning more is by juicing more, just my thought.

What he said.

[fattymcbutterpants]

well honestly ive been wondering that myself. Im not going to say any names but they are satchets and they came from a well known company on the internet starting with an A**n I have heard they are legit frrom most people but i just havent seenthe results. I mean i gained a good bit off weight on the anadrol but hardly any strength and I also havent gained anywhere near as much strength on the tren yet as people have claimed and im on my 6th week of it roughly so im beginning to think i might of somehow been ripped off. However ive been having some of the sides like problems sleeping and the occasional night sweat and i thought i was getting a mild case of gyno but im not sure because if i was its gone now. But my balls have shrunk a little but nothing just terrible but still a little bit. So im wondering if maybe the pills were legit and i just dont respond to them strength wise very well and the gear is fake or what. I know im not at my full genetic potential so i mean it would be possible for me to gain these past few lbs since ive been off the drol without being on cycle so im not sure. Let me know what you all think about my supplier if you figure out who it is because ive heard he is legit from most people and sites and everything but i heard once he was a selective scammer but not sure if thats true or not

[Dinosaur]

well i think i know who probaly ur talking about if iam correct, they have been in good bizness from last few years but lately lots of people r complaining about them, back order, not recieving the right amount of gear u place, not responding to their email...etc i my self had a problem with this source placing an order for my older brother.
if ur diet is really in check, training right and you ve been setting up everything to almost perfection i can't really say much except that the gear is either low dosed or "maybe its rip off" which i can't say for sure.
about ur genetics u have a long way to go body, of course u haven't met ur genetic potential. all i can say is don't let this make u down keep up the spirits and give it another week c if your maybe slow responder.
i'll b watching.

[74107410]

I was just wondering what the total cost was for this cycle including PCT?

[fattymcbutterpants]

well i think i know who probaly ur talking about if iam correct, they have been in good bizness from last few years but lately lots of people r complaining about them, back order, not recieving the right amount of gear u place, not responding to their email...etc i my self had a problem with this source placing an order for my older brother.
if ur diet is really in check, training right and you ve been setting up everything to almost perfection i can't really say much except that the gear is either low dosed or "maybe its rip off" which i can't say for sure.
about ur genetics u have a long way to go body, of course u haven't met ur genetic potential. all i can say is don't let this make u down keep up the spirits and give it another week c if your maybe slow responder.
i'll b watching.

Yea I had heard some people were having problems so im not sure. Honestly it wouldnt bother me too much if i found out it was fake after all. Yea its alot of money to lose which would suck, but i was really thinking about it and i would rather try getting a little closer to my genetic potential without the roids and then maybe once im a good bit closer then cycling. And it would make me feel better because that would let me know that my body isnt weird and doesnt respond that well to roids. Because a while back my first two cycles i respondeed tremendously to Sustanon and to deca and i would like to be able to know if i could respond similarly to that again. I know nothing will be like that first cycle but you know

[fattymcbutterpants]

I was just wondering what the total cost was for this cycle including PCT?

dont think we are suppossed to discuss price on here man but it was around the 400-500 area not counting pct just test,tren ,hcg ,letro, Drol

[fattymcbutterpants]

hey guys today actually went pretty well it was chest and triceps. My bench went up another 10lbs. I got 5lbs more than my normal heavy set but it was after my heavy set lol and i did it for 2 reps. but i think that is partially due to the guy spotting me was talking to me and was showing me a better way to breath and it really helped and i got really pumped up too right before i pressed it and i got it good so that made my workout alot better lol. Also my incline went up about 10lbs also so im still making gains but once again that could partially be because of the breathing technique but nonetheless i had a pretty good workout and i think i have finally started gaining some weight again. Im up about another 1.5-2lbs from about 4 or 5 days ago so im starting to get over that weight gaining minor plateau

[jc95605]

Good. I dunno about the tren tho. I think it would be more noticable.

[fattymcbutterpants]

yea id be willing to bet the test is real and the tren is either underdosed big time or fake. Also i havent taken letro the past 2 days just to see how it affected my sex drive because it hadnt been that great lately and it definately increased in the 2 days. Im going to keep taking the letro but just wanted to do a little experiment to see

[jc95605]

keep taking the letro. If you want to increase your sex drive try caber. It's a good idea to take caber with any 19nor cycle anyway. You responded pretty fast! Ready....set....go

[fattymcbutterpants]

haha yea, and i will lol i dont want gyno, but i doubt i will take the caber because i dont really have easy access to much at the moment and not trusting my previous source anymore lol

[fattymcbutterpants]

ok guys as of this morning I am up a total of about 19.5lbs so im feeling better about the cycle now, today shoulders legs and traps went pretty well. I hurt my lower rear shoulder or back tho doing shoulder press. I think i might of just strained it slightly so it should be fine and i took it sorta easy after that. Strength is still slowly climbing also

[fattymcbutterpants]

ok so my lower shoulder/back bothered me basically all day but i just kept on going a little motrin helped. Todays workout went pretty well. I mainly focused on deadlifts today for back with some rows included and did my normal bicep and forearm stuff

Also today as of about 6 i have gotten in 300g of protein about 3500 cals and about 400g of carbs and i havent had supper yet or anything some i upping my food intake a little. I was up another 1lb this morning so im beginning to think the gear might be legit after all or at least the test

[jc95605]

what type of cycle are you wanting to do? I'd adjust my food intake to that.

[fattymcbutterpants]

basically i want to bulk right now. sort of a lean bulk i guess is what you would consider my goal with a focus on strength also. However due to a somewhat ectomorph body type i dont have to worry too much about gaining much fat. Oh and i made it to 360g of protein as of right now. Im going to take a shake before bed just to hit the 400 mark lol. and i think i have had roughly 4000 calories today not 3500 so a little better than i said earlier once i thought about what all i ate i realized it was higher

[jc95605]

Your body seems to be reponding well to your adjustments. This obviously should be your new diet. If you gain a lil fat dont' worry about it. You can cut up on clen if need be. I say continue on this diet and keep going for it.

[fattymcbutterpants]

thats what im going to do because it seems to be working. I sorta took today off for a few reasons and im going out of town so i gotta take saturday off too but other than that im going to keep everything going

[fattymcbutterpants]

Hey guys sorry i havent posted in awhile. Everything is still going well im up another about 2lbs and strength is still slowly climbing. I got just a little bit more on bench today than normal but nothing too major

[tprop]

fatty updatessss

[fattymcbutterpants]

hey sorry for it being so long without updates. mainly because this week i have been extremely occupied and havent been able to workout but 3 times. Having a new girlfriend, school, and my job take up alot of time lol. But nonetheless:

I have run out of tren now so I am just running test now which i still have a few weeks of it remaining, strength is still up. What I was benching as of my last post for my max i can now do for 3 sets of 1 rep. So strength is still slowly increasing. I am up a total of about 21lbs as of right now i believe. Diet hasnt been the best this week not terrible but just not getting in quite what I had been before but now that im sorta getting everything in my life back under control again im doing better.

oh and one random thing I would like to add is something I did the other day that amazed me. So im 6'5" and have never been able to dunk just grab the rim which is pitiful considering how tall I am. Well lately I have been really working on squats alot and I have noticed a major increase in my vertical. I went from being able to stand flat footed and jump up and grab the rim barely to standing flat footed and grabbing it without even extending my arms fully and without jumping as hard as possible. I thought it was pretty amazing how much squats really increase your overall power and especially jumping power. but anyways just thought i'd share that little information lol and i will try dunking next time i go on a basketball court.

But anyways guys i will try and post more often this week once im back in the swing of things

[bigacct]

keep taking the letro. If you want to increase your sex drive try caber. It's a good idea to take caber with any 19nor cycle anyway. You responded pretty fast! Ready....set....go

Dude,

This is just wrong (Letro Use). Since you are so far into your cycle, it's probably too late. Letro and Arimidex kill strength gains associated with high androgen (estrogen stimulating) aas. You should be using nolvadex , estrogen is needed in order to maximize strength gains. Save the letro for PCT.

BA

[fattymcbutterpants]

nolvadex on cycle is a big no no if im not mistaken...it can make you grow man boobs(gyno) if im not mistaken but i may be wrong

[fattymcbutterpants]

ok guys fvck it. Its time to get this out here. Im 16. I have done all the cycles i have said, i also am as tall as i have said and everything no bs on that just my age. I just wanted to let you all know because im pissed about this cycle. my shit was underdosed or possibly fake and I have not seen anything like what i expected out of it so im done. But before i get banned or anything guys sorry for lying to any of you all on the whole age factor everything i have said has been true except for the age part.

Now just a little quick help. All i have is a ton of letro and some HCG . Nothing else for PCT thanks to my stupid supplier which i know its my fault too but anyways.

Ok so i stopped taking the tren about 2 or 3 weeks ago. I also took my last shot of testE 1 week ago so I am done injecting. I still have a little left of both but i dont wanna take em anymore.

SO what can i do with letro and HCG pct wise? because i really dont want to have a limp dick for a couple weeks or anything and my nips are slightly sensitive so very mild case of gyno possibly. I havent been taking the letro or anything lately so i pretty much have stopped taking everything.

Please help advise me guys, and again I apologize for lying but i was going to take them anyways and I figured why not try to do everything right instead of just sort of winging it

[fattymcbutterpants]

anybody?

[Reed]

Well this is a big mess. I'd say wait and get a SERM. Order some for the sponsor and wait it out. IDK what to tell you bro as running letro/hcg may make things worse for you. No aromasin or arimidex

[fattymcbutterpants]

well im not going to really be able to order anything else because i cant get it shipped to my house for some obvious reasons. So I was thinking possibly start the letro at .5mg and work my way up a little bit just to make sure if this is gyno that it goes away for sure and then taper off once i get rid of it. My balls havent shrank too much, i mean they have gotten smaller, but its not terrible just sorta noticeable. I didnt know if getting the HCG going would help get my natural test back up and running so i wouldnt have to worry about some other problems

[Reed]

Yeah just run the letro and don't use the HCG unless you have nolva due to the fact that Nolva helps HCG from de-sensitizing your testicles to natural LH.

I'm not to to experienced but thats the best I can come up for you bro. Sorry

[WARMachine]

Alright whats going on now?

Sorry bro i havent been following along but i Reed said you needed some advice?

[fattymcbutterpants]

any help is better than none man thanks. I will start with the letro tonight. I probably wont run too high of a dose because its nothing severe gyno wise and i dont want to completely kill my sex drive because i just got a new gf and i really dont wanna disappoint lol. I was wondering about the HCG de-sensitizing them to natural LH but I wasnt sure if that would eventually go back to normal or what. I mean I have made some gains also so it would be nice to keep them but its just nothing too great due to the fact my gear was extremely underdosed i believe and certain substances fake. The reason i believe its either highly underdosed and some fake is from the tons of claims i have heard about tren and anadrol on strength and i ran this cycle with both and test at a pretty high dose and gained about 45lbs on my bench which is good however nothing near what was expected from a cycle like this considering most guys seem to be getting close to a 100lb increase while on. And the blame cant really go on my diet or workout plan because i was eating right and i actually had a pretty good workout plan so that wasnt it. so idk

[fattymcbutterpants]

alright WAR in short i stopped the cycle because A: i came to my senses and realized im too young to be doing all this shit B: my gear seemed to be highly underdosed or fake.

and all i have is letro and HCG and i cant get anything else unless its like something from like gnc or that type of thing. So basically im just trying to get my body back to normal with what ive got, get rid of a mild case of gyno(just puffy sensitive nips), and make sure my testes keep working all good and well

[Reed]

IDK what else to tell. Its a really messed up situation. I mean Arnold and them did not use PCT but again everyone recovers differently. Just do the letro at .25 mg to hopefully avoid the estro rebound effect for 3 weeks. I'd really recommend you get some type of SERM and possibly order it to a buddies house

Maybe someone else can give some input...... maybe not