Test E, Tren E, Anadrol log

**jc95605** · 09-09-2008, 06:41 PM

How exactly did you dose the tren then? I'm looking to do the same thing is why i ask. I don't wanna wait 4 wks for the tren to kick in when my cycle is just a 10wk cycle. If i frontload the test it'll be at 96% in day 4. Just sayin.

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-09-2008, 10:11 PM

Well I just have been taking a little more than what I had originally planned on for the Tren . What I had planned was 2cc's twice a week but im actually doing around 3ccs twice weekly so that should help increase how soon it kicks in. With the test E I think I was the same as you are planning it was 96% by day 4 but you cant really tell that much of a difference at first it still takes a little bit for you to start feeling it because I have just now been starting to feel it is kicking in.

Hopefully the Tren should kick in really soon. I think I have 3ccs left drawn up in my syringe from the satchets I emptied so i am just going to inject it all like I have been to hopefully get it to kick in faster. I havent checked the roid calculator on it, but it should be a little sooner than without that extra little bit.

O and todays workout went well. My weight is up about 9lbs. Today I actually didnt add much weight to anything, BUT i have started doing more reps. The one thing I did add weight to was Leg press. I started off my first set today with what i used as my heavy set on it last week and added an extra 45 to each side and used that for my final two sets and still managed to go pretty deep with them. And barbell shrugs have gone up just a little bit. I could tell it was easier getting my shoulders up all the way today. But other than that everything is about the same. Today i have started working on getting more protein in me. Have any of you noticed protein shakes make you fart? I had heard that before but didnt know if it was true well today I wasnt able to control em I have had em so bad and I only take about 2 shakes a day so idk lol i need Beano.

O and I forgot to add i bought some B12 and B6 vitamins to help me keep my appetite up so i can get plenty of food in. I will be taking like 33000% of daily recommended amount of b12 and 17000% of B6 and i can already tell a difference I am much hungrier not long after taking

**jc95605** · 09-09-2008, 10:39 PM

I need mgs not cc's. Depending on lab that differs. Ok i'm confused now. Can you post your first week injections of test and tren by mgs so i can figure this out.

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-09-2008, 10:45 PM

ya man forgot about it differing, Ok the Tren E is 100mg/ml and Test E is 250mg/ml:
Day 1:
Test E-750mg
Tren E-250mg

Day 4:
Test E-750mg
Tren E-250mg

Second week injections:
Test: 375mg
Tren: 250mg

And about to inject in just a little bit(second injection of second week):
Test 375mg
Tren:250mg

So today is only my 4th injection so I still have a little while.

I am running the Test at 750mg wk and Tren at 400wk but since I didnt want to have to wait quite as long on the tren I am injecting a little more of the tren until I feel it kicking in then I will drop back down to the 200mg 2 times a week

Hope this makes a little more sense. I am going to go take the shots and Ill let you know the exact amounts I took just in case there was a little more or less than planned in the preloaded syringe

**jc95605** · 09-09-2008, 11:14 PM

Ok i got ya now. I think i'm gonna frontload my test like that and i'm gonna try and "half frontload" my tren , lol. I dunno how its gonna work but i'm gonna go for it.

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-09-2008, 11:17 PM

holy shit it hurt! Iam almost positive I hit a nerve in my left quad or grazed it or something because as i was sticking the needle in my leg sorta twitched funny but seemed all good. After injecting I was pulling the needle out and about halfway out i felt like i had just gotten stabbed in the leg. It was a very sharp intense pain but went away sorta quick afterwards. But anyways I injected the normal 375mg of test e and 350mg of tren just to finish up what was left in the syringe. But I am thinking of trying injecting in my shoulders because im getting tired of just using my quads and i know it would be better for me to be rotating anyways.

And yea JC i am just sorta halfway frontloading my tren but im sorta playing it by ear but i took a much bigger injection today

**jc95605** · 09-09-2008, 11:38 PM

No thats not what i meant. I don't think you were frontloading the tren . Now why are you saying your frontloading the tren. Acoording to the doses you gave me their all the same. Where's the frontload?

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-10-2008, 12:31 AM

ok with the tren my plan was to take 400mg/wk. so 200mg each time i inject well i decided to get it to kick in a little faster, but not too fast because everyone said dont frontload, so i am and have increased the dose for the first two weeks so that it will kick in a little faster but its not full fledged frontloading

**jc95605** · 09-10-2008, 09:46 AM

Ok gotcha.

**wukillabee** · 09-10-2008, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by fattymcbutterpants

ya man forgot about it differing, Ok the Tren E is 100mg/ml and Test E is 250mg/ml:
Day 1:
Test E-750mg
Tren E-250mg

Day 4:
Test E-750mg
Tren E-250mg

Second week injections:
Test: 375mg
Tren: 250mg

And about to inject in just a little bit(second injection of second week):
Test 375mg
Tren:250mg

So today is only my 4th injection so I still have a little while.

I am running the Test at 750mg wk and Tren at 400wk but since I didnt want to have to wait quite as long on the tren I am injecting a little more of the tren until I feel it kicking in then I will drop back down to the 200mg 2 times a week

Hope this makes a little more sense. I am going to go take the shots and Ill let you know the exact amounts I took just in case there was a little more or less than planned in the preloaded syringe

That doesnt add up for me. At those concentrations and u taking tren @250mg and test @375mg a shot then u should be shooting 4ml or 4cc bro. 2.5ml alone for ur tren dose then 1.5ml for ur test dose makes 4ml total which equals 4cc. Kinda weird for ur tren e to be made at only a 100mg/ml, thats the tren a usual dose. Maybe u ould title ur posts with the week and day ur on bro, kinda hard to follow ur thread. I too want to really follow it cus i plan on doing a similar cycle in the future..

**wukillabee** · 09-10-2008, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by fattymcbutterpants

ok with the tren my plan was to take 400mg/wk. so 200mg each time i inject well i decided to get it to kick in a little faster, but not too fast because everyone said dont frontload, so i am and have increased the dose for the first two weeks so that it will kick in a little faster but its not full fledged frontloading

Haha, ur half assin it bro! J/k, good idea though.

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-10-2008, 11:02 PM

Ok guys today went pretty well. It was biceps back and forearms and I was really pumped throughout most of the workout, everything went great pretty much in the gym and i made some minor strength increases.

Today wasnt really a bad day or anything but just a little while ago i was comin home from hanging out with some friends and I stopped to get gas and I was cleaning my windshield and the little squeegie piece broke and hit the side of my truck and scratched it sorta bad and its a black truck so it really shows(and i love my truck also so that played a big factor) well basically I felt like I was about to blow up on the inside and wanted to beat the shit out of something but I ended up smacking the shit out of the squeegie handle on a piece of concrete and then just listening to metal on the way home then I felt better lol

I hope the titles help lol I put em on most of my posts in here now

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-11-2008, 11:35 PM

Ok today was chest and Triceps. Everything went pretty well. I can feel my triceps and lower chest becoming stronger because dips seem so much easier now and I am much more explosive when I do them. Also just about all of my bench lifts(incline,flat,and decline) have gone up about 10lbs. Decline however is my favorite no matter what lol and I can almost do the same weight on it as I can on flat bench. But anyways Im up a total of about 10lbs so far so things are still going good weight wise and I really havent noticed that much water retention. Im sure its there but it hasnt been showing very much

**stallion_1** · 09-11-2008, 11:39 PM

how much weight have u gained??

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-11-2008, 11:47 PM

about 9-10 lbs

**stallion_1** · 09-11-2008, 11:51 PM

wow that is good

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-12-2008, 12:19 AM

thanks man, I have really been trying to pack in the food this week. I got some B6 and B12 vitamins so that is helping me increase my appetite some

**stallion_1** · 09-12-2008, 12:25 AM

Originally Posted by fattymcbutterpants

thanks man, I have really been trying to pack in the food this week. I got some B6 and B12 vitamins so that is helping me increase my appetite some

well keep it up

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-12-2008, 12:30 AM

alright, I cant wait to really start feeling the tren and test fully

**jc95605** · 09-12-2008, 09:26 AM

sounds like your on the right track. I'm excited when the tren kicks in as well cuz you'll explode up in weights.

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-15-2008, 05:57 PM

Hey guys sorry I havent updated in a few days. Everything is still going good. I had bad night sweats lastnight, felt like I peed on myself lol but it was all good. Today was chest and triceps and it went great. I added another 10lbs to my bench on my heavy set and ended up adding a few reps in. Also decline has gone up 10lbs. I really focused on killing my muscles today. It was an intense workout that left my arms shaking by the time I was done so I really felt like I accomplished something.

My injection this weekend went fine also. I am up a total of about 10-11lbs but I am still staying somewhat cut even with the added weight. This morning I looked in the mirror after I woke up and I thought my abs looked better than ever and could tell my chest has gotten a little bigger

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-15-2008, 09:52 PM

O and also I seem to be taking forever to get to sleep lately. Not so much once im actually in bed but just i dont feel like going to bed because I dont feel that tired really. And then when I wake up in the morning I feel like crap cuz I havent gotten much sleep and I will think Im going to bed early tonight. It never works because at night i dont feel that tired. But tonight I am finally tired so i might be able to fall asleep before midnight

**wukillabee** · 09-15-2008, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by fattymcbutterpants

O and also I seem to be taking forever to get to sleep lately. Not so much once im actually in bed but just i dont feel like going to bed because I dont feel that tired really. And then when I wake up in the morning I feel like crap cuz I havent gotten much sleep and I will think Im going to bed early tonight. It never works because at night i dont feel that tired. But tonight I am finally tired so i might be able to fall asleep before midnight

Try some melatonin to help u sleep, its natural and non-addicting. If its real bad then lots of people on tren get a scrip for ambien cr, wors case scenario of course. GOtta get ur 8-9hrs sleep to grow bro! Logs looking good!

**jc95605** · 09-16-2008, 06:33 AM

My injection this weekend went fine also. I am up a total of about 10-11lbs but I am still staying somewhat cut even with the added weight. This morning I looked in the mirror after I woke up and I thought my abs looked better than ever and could tell my chest has gotten a little bigger[/QUOTE]

Abs looked better how exactly. Are you taking any T3 with your tren ? Do you feel bloated at all? Sounds like your tren has kicked in the last few days. Its awesome that tren e kicked in at only 15 days. I heard that about tren e but didn't believe it, thats another reason why i've been watching your log. Good detail in your updates, keep it up!

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-16-2008, 02:44 PM

Lastnight I did much better on sleep I got about 7 hrs. So Im doing better. I just have to basically force myself to climb in bed then I'm good.
And no Im not taking any T3 but they looked better because there seemed to be a little less fat around them and my pecs seemed a little bigger which helped give it that complete look. And yea man I am almost positive its almost fully kicked in or pretty close because I have been noticing the slight sleeping problems and I tend to get really hot all of a sudden for no really apparent reason. Also my strength seems to be going up

But I am about to go workout now so I will let you all know how it goes today when I get back

**stpete** · 09-16-2008, 05:21 PM

Just got back from a little vacation. Sounds like you're doing ok. Get used to the night sweats and the loss of sleep man. I get tylenol pm and it helps a lot. How's that letro going for you?

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-16-2008, 08:05 PM

Alright workout went pretty good today. It was Legs, shoulders, and traps. The only thing I really noticed that had gone up was squatting. I was doing a good bit more than normal and I squeezed out several more reps so it definately went up some but that was about it that I noticed today but I wasnt feeling that motivated when I worked out because it was late in the evening and I was sorta tired but its all good.

And stpete the letro is doing pretty good. Im still taking it at roughly .25mg/day. The only thing I have noticed really is my nipples seem to be bigger. Everytime I cycle tho they seem to do that. They get sorta longer looking when they get hard but it normally goes away after the cycle is over, and they arent sensitive or anything so I'd say they are fine

O and I believe I am up to a solid 11lbs worth of weight gain now. Its sorta holding at that 10-11lb point lately which could be me losing some minor weight too from burning up a little bit of bodyfat, but then again I dont have much to burn in the first place

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-17-2008, 09:34 PM

Alright today went pretty well. It was back biceps and forearms. On regular barbell curls I have moved up 10lbs roughly. I can now sqeeze out about 8 more reps with what I used to could only do 2 of. And on incline dumbell curls I was getting what i normally used on my heavy set for my last two sets so strength is still slowly going up.

Lastnight I got my sleep in, but I woke up a few times during the night, and Everytime I would wake up I would be in a completely different postition. I ended up completely sideways on my bed at one point then started to move and was like no im just going back to sleep then woke up facing the other way. And I sorta had some odd dreams but nothing too crazy that I can remember lol. I've only got about a 7-10 days left of Anadrol roughly I think then I will be just on the test and tren so hopefully I will really start feeling the strength from the tren soon.

O and I'd like to add I am really tired of injecting in my quads. Used to love it but lately i havent enjoyed it. What spot do you all think I should try next because quads is the only place I've ever injected in any of my cycles. And I have 22g 1" pins so I cant go with anything requiring to go too deep

**TranscriptionFactor** · 09-17-2008, 11:52 PM

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**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-18-2008, 09:14 PM

Ok guys today was great. It was chest and triceps and I am noticing a definite difference. I started off with bench and it wasnt very different, however when I got to working on triceps I really noticed a difference. On weighted dips i added 10lbs to what I hang from the belt for my second set. Then on my 3rd set I added another 5lbs so a total of 15lbs and then my last set I did just with my bodyweight. So triceps have made definite strength increases and I really hammered them hard today. So overall today was a good day. Im really ready for my bench to take off but im still happy with what I accomplished today

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-19-2008, 04:41 PM

Today is suppossed to be shoulders and legs but I am going to take today off. Im not feeling too good been really stopped up(I have bad allergies) and I would say the fact tren constricts your airways slightly isnt helping much either. So i'm going to take today off and then get back going again tomorrow.

Also I'd like to add I have really started noticing that the Tren really keeps me on edge it seems. Im normally a pretty laid back person and it takes ALOT to make me snap but now it doesnt take much at all. I am doing pretty good at controlling it though. I had somebody say something smart to me today and i pretty much blew the fvck up on them. I didn't hit em or anything like that, I just basically put them in their place.

So its nothing uncontrallable I just seem to snap much easier on people I dont really like in the first place. If i do like em I have a little bit higher tolerance with them tho so thats good

**stpete** · 09-19-2008, 05:52 PM

Try pinning your triceps. It's a piece of cake man. Or your glutes, but make sure that pin is all the way in and stay to the top. Just below the beltline.
Sounds like the tren has kicked in. That's good, just stay cool. I always just walk away from a potential confrontation and tell myself over and over that it's the juice. It's the juice. It usually works.
Have a good one tomorrow.

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-19-2008, 06:15 PM

Yea man thats what ive been trying to do whenever i feel myself getting pissed is I just think its the juice doing it then i sorta come back to my senses and am good. but the guy today lol just had it coming to him. Triceps sounds pretty good. I was thinking that or shoulders. The only thing i didnt feel like having to deal with was the whole virgin muscle thing because it gets annoying being really sore for a week or however long

**stpete** · 09-19-2008, 06:49 PM

Delts are good too, but tri's are easier for me. What went wrong with the quads? I hit those bad boys all the time. Even after i hit something a couple of times. Flex your tri and see where the meat is. Then relax and shoot holding the syringe with your thumb and third finger. This allows you to aspirate with your first and second fingers, while still holding the syringe. You'll like it.
As far as this virgin muscle stuff, i must be really lucky or i have a high threshold for pain, cause all i've ever experienced is a little tightness. But either way, i'd just suck it up cause it's worth it. imo Good luck man.

**jc95605** · 09-20-2008, 12:38 PM

Ya sounds like the tren is working now. Save the anger for the gym. Whenever you get pissed just go to the gym and put up more weight. Keep it up!

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-20-2008, 04:41 PM

today was biceps back and forearms and it went great. I am defintaely feeling the strength increase. I repped 105 on barbell curls. But I am also noticing the shortness of breath but its worth it. I played a football game with some friends earlier this afternoon and man chasing them down when they get the ball seems alot harder and it wore me out quick too. I could definately tell I was breathing harder and faster than normal and I didnt seem to be quite as fast as normal because normally I can chase almost any of them down, but owell its definately worth it.

Lol had some crazy dreams lastnight. Went out hunting in some field and as I was walking along with a couple guys I look up and saw a grizzly bear in the distance just sitting there looking at us. And I couldnt decide if we should shoot at it and hope we kill it, otherwise it would just be pissed off and come and chase us down if we only hurt it, or if i should just walk away and leave it. the dream never finished though because I woke up so dont know what happened lol. O and I woke up twice soaked in sweat lastnight but by morning I had cooled off some so it was all good

**wukillabee** · 09-20-2008, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by stpete

Delts are good too, but tri's are easier for me. What went wrong with the quads? I hit those bad boys all the time. Even after i hit something a couple of times. Flex your tri and see where the meat is. Then relax and shoot holding the syringe with your thumb and third finger. This allows you to aspirate with your first and second fingers, while still holding the syringe. You'll like it.
As far as this virgin muscle stuff, i must be really lucky or i have a high threshold for pain, cause all i've ever experienced is a little tightness. But either way, i'd just suck it up cause it's worth it. imo Good luck man.

Yeah bro, stpete talked me into tris and lovin it! Ive shot 10 sites already on my first cycle and its test enth! PEcs are so easy, tris even better, quads kill me, delts are alright, glutes are fine (just gotta have my gurl shoot em cus i cant reach around). If anyones got virgin muscles its me and a new site has never really hurt for more than a day. Always the next day hurts but the day after its like 80%. Thats why i like shooting the muscle group im working out that day so when its sore the next, its just like having a hard workout feeling. No biggie. Also ive heard when people mix the test and tren that the tren kinda kills some of the pain from the test. At least with prop/tren ace people say that, not sure bout the 2 enth esters but wouldnt see why not. SOunds good bro, keep it up!

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-21-2008, 12:05 AM

Yea I'm basically just tired of the quads and after grazing a nerve lol for some reason I just really dont feel like shooting there as much now. I am thinking either triceps, delts, pecs, or glutes for next shot. My very first cycle i started to try my glutes one time and I poked the needle in just barely and was like no this isnt going to work, so pulled it out then went with my quad instead because I was having problems twisting around and injecting myself in the glute by myself

**fattymcbutterpants** · 09-22-2008, 10:34 PM

Ok guys today went great for the most part, it was chest and triceps. On weighted dips i did 4 sets of 6-7. I started off with one of bodyweight, then moved to one with 10lbs, then one with 25lbs, and I used 30lbs on the last set so strength is going up because last week I only did around 20lbs on last set. Also my bench is up roughly 10lbs so its starting to finally go up some more.

I have gained a total of about 13lbs now so I am doing pretty good I think on weight gain so far.

Also I think I might have Tren cough. Part of it is allergies, but the past few days I have been feeling sick, sorta congested and yesterday I started coughing alot and tonight was a good bit worse but hopefully it will begin to fade away sometime soon