Thread: DC Style Prep/Cycle Bulk Log!!!
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08-15-2009, 11:06 AM #81New Member
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Hey bro I am just starting out, I'm sure you can remember those days. I've been reading alot of posts and have been getting some great info. I really need a reliable source or someone to just lead me in the right direction of getting some good gear. If you could just point me in the right direction that would be cool.
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08-15-2009, 01:21 PM #83
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Actually I didn't see any rules to even read. But I can understand it was a stupid question, just have no sources.
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08-17-2009, 05:07 PM #87
Week 3 Day 7 Update
Start of week 4 coming up, seems ive been on longer then that! Well i stopped the test ace so no more frontloading for now. I feel the test workin in me and the cyp/enth should be in full effect very soon anyways.
My l-dex seems to be legit since ive been running 2mg the past 4 days since i starting getting sensitivity in my left nip and now its gone. Will continue the l-dex at 1mg eod and go from there with the dose.
Prami seems to be doing its thing already, libido is already getting better.
Dbol =Love! Zero negative sides still and all the positive sides, my new favorite oral by far! Getting very little bloat from it, vascularity (veins are double if not triple in size!), great pumps, feel solid! Start of week 5 i will be adding 50mg of anadrol to the mix to see how i respond to dbol and drol stacked at low doses, dbol dose will stay where its at 40mg ed.
Deca , well havent noticed much yet. Like i said last week, knees dont feel dry anymore so assuming thats the deca working. While on 2mg of l-dex for 4 days my knees started getting real dry again, proof again my l-dex must have some compound in it.
Now my nip sensitivity is gone, all my chest acne from first pics are totally gone and will now stay at 20mg of accutane ed for rest of cycle and go from there with it.
Started hcg today, first time using a slin pin. Mixed it so its 250iu on the 10 mark, very little to inject. I have 29g .5" terumo slin pins. Jabbed my left delt today for hcg and right delt for my test/deca shot. Odd because it seems the slin pin had trouble breaking the skin to inject, had to push much harder to get the pin in then i would with my 25g pins. Thought it would be easier with slin pins?
No gym today due to work schedule changing up this week. Will hit the gym for lower body tomorrow, upper the next day, lower again on friday, then weekend off. Should be a good week!
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08-18-2009, 06:34 PM #88
You 3 hundy yet?
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08-18-2009, 07:42 PM #89
Shoot i wish. Havent even stepped on the scale lately yet. I dont really start weighin til after week 5, thats when the real muscle quality gains start. These first few weeks are nothin but water so dont even count that weight gain. I am filled out everywhere quite nice from the dbol though with same waist size and still abs! Cant wait til next week when i add the anadrol to the mix! I have a feeling 30mg dbol and 50mg drol pre-workout is gonna feel real nice! 10mg dbol post-workout, thats how i split em up.
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08-18-2009, 08:35 PM #90
Damn EO Killin!
The eo based gear (deca and test500) is killin me now. I know its not my muscles since i can shot the test ace (different ugl) in the same muscles and get zero pain, not even a pinch! I always mix the deca .75ml and .5ml of test500 in the syringe so its one shot of 1.3ml (go a little over with the test, hehe).
On thursday im going to shoot the deca solo and test solo and see if maybe its just one of those compounds thats killin me. I hope its not the eo and just one of the compounds.
Like yesterday i shot my right tri 1.3ml and today its killin me! No redness, swelling, nothing like that. Just hurts like hell whenever i flex my tri or bend my arm in. Ive hit this tri already a couple times now with the same gear and pain is still as bad if not worse then the first time. Idk, guess after thursday ill really find out whats up.
Pressed for time today so ill post up today's workout late tonite after work. Had a good lower body workout except for my knees killing me again. The test is kickin in good cus on hack squats my knees felt like i was rubbin on bone but my muscles and intensity was like **** IT, IM GONNA PUSH THIS WEIGHT! It was pretty crazy, haha. I guess those few days of 2mg l-dex ed screwed em up. I think for now on im gonna try l-dex at .75mg eod or just mon, wed, fri. Ill see how that protocol works for me.
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08-19-2009, 02:27 PM #91
Week 4 Day 1 Lower Body
Had a good workout today, real intensity boost in the gym today and great pumps. Felt solid as hell today. On the dumbell curls before i counted them all together, now i count per arm how many i do. Like before id say 10 reps, that meant 5 reps each arm for a total of 10 reps. Now im going to count them all together so when i say 20 reps, that means each arm did 20 reps each!
Biceps: Alternate Dumbell Curls
2 warm up sets
50x8, 50x3, 50x3 (Down 10lbs, Up 7reps)
Forearms: Barbell Wrist Curls
2 warm up sets
85x10, 85x3, 85x2 (Up 2 reps)
Calves: Standing Calf Raises
2 warm up sets
237.5x10 (straight set)
237.5x8 (straight set) (Up 2 reps)
Hams: Seated Leg Curls
2 warm up sets
180x10, 180x7, 180x5 (Up 15lbs and 2 reps!)
Quads: Hack Squats
2 warm up sets
270x8, 270x4, 270x3 (up 40lbs)
Knees killed today but my strength wasn't havent it, still pushed through to the point i thought i was gonna injure myself. Thats how great this intensity is, it has no boundaries, haha!
On the calves i did the straight set of 5sec up and 15sec down each rep. Killed after 10 reps so had to rest for 30sec then did another straight set same way for 8 reps total. Calves are dead today!
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08-19-2009, 02:34 PM #92
Week 4 Day 2 Upper Body
So pissed, forgot my log book today at home and no way had time to drive all the way back to get it. Didn't even look at the book before i left so had no idea even what im suppose to do today, just know its upper body day. So i just decided to max out on chest and do straight sets followed by a burn out set for each exercise. Went pretty well today.
Flat Bench:
3 warm up sets
315x4 (solid reps, PB!)
Incline Dumbell Fly:
2 warm up sets
65x8
Upright Rows:
2 warm up sets
145x8
Cable Pushdowns:
2 warm up sets
150x8 (full stack)
Close Grip Pulldown Machine:
2 warm up sets
165x8 (holding static on each 5sec)
Close Grip Rowing Iso Machine Thing (haha):
2 warm up sets
270x8
Again, after the last set right away i lower the weight to my lightest warm up weight and do 8-12 slowwww reps holding static for a good 5sec on each to really burn. People already askin how much ish im taking, good thing i always take my cellmass to the gym with me. I should be a spokesperson for cellmass, haha! All natty here!
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08-19-2009, 04:30 PM #93New Member
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The calves hurt like hell dont they!? Every things looking pretty good. I see you upped your reps on the hammies, good call.
One thing I saw is that you did 3 sets on the hack squat. Is that cause yourr knee's hurt & you didnt wanna push it with the heavy straight set?
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08-19-2009, 05:11 PM #94
Legs im gonna try to keep in the 15-22 rep range, same with arms so my weights might go down a tad now since my reps have been about half that. On the hacks i did them like everything else, no straight sets. Did a set, 12 breaths, did a set, etc 3x for hacks. Kness where killin, felt so damn dry but my quads wanted more! Knees arent so bad today, must have been all that l-dex. At least my gyno symptoms are gone now! Now im just stuck with a bum right tri from my last inject. Its a little red and feels like a nasty bruise. Tomorrow im gonna inject the deca and test separately and see if its one of them causing the pain or both since theyre both made with 100% eo. Its my first time with eo, hope im not allergic to it and this is the reaction i get.
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08-19-2009, 05:19 PM #95New Member
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Hopefully your not allergic to it, that would suck.
Your a brave man for R/Pausing your quads. I dont know how long you'll be able to keep that up especially once you get to real heavy weights.
I myself dropped the DC format for quads and hammies. I had knee surgery a year ago and I decided I wanted to do more volume with both muscle groups. Not to mention the workouts left me feeling very un athletic, meaning I couldnt sprint or jump anymore.
Be careful to not overtrain your legs, especially since your R/P your quads. Thats not standard protocol for training legs dc style. If you can do it and get away with it, more power to you. Hammer it out.
I had pretty skinny legs until I started dc & the grew awesomely doing the straight set for quads. I know that sometimes its hard to let go of the do more mentality, but the format dc has laid out really does work.Last edited by crazydayz; 08-19-2009 at 05:24 PM.
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08-19-2009, 05:40 PM #96
Didnt know all leg workouts where straight sets, hams too? I thought it was just the basic compound leg workouts like squats and what not? I do my hacks on that hack sled you add the plates to so i just assumed could do r/p on it, not that i wanted to, haha! Damn, straight set on hack i could get the weight up, then again if i upped the weight its not gonna be in any 15-22 rep range thats for sure.
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08-20-2009, 12:10 PM #97New Member
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Hammies are 3 R/P and then a static set, I would keep the rep range between 15-20 or 20-30 to be safe.
All quad exercises are done with a SS. 6-10 or 6-12 is the rep range.
Follow up your quad set with a widow maker.
For instance... Today is your hack day..... Do your warm up sets...... Do your SS..... then follow it up with a widow maker 20-30 reps.
I trained for 3 yrs dc style without an ACl in my right knee. If you wanna stay on the safe side start with light weights, if you can hit the top number of your rep range, keep going. As long as you start out slow you'll leave some room to grow.
You might wanna think about putting some icy hot or ben gay on your knees before your start your quad sets. Doing this will help to warm your knees up. Just a thought.
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08-23-2009, 04:29 AM #98Banned
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Where you at bro? How did the injections go? Hopefully everything's ok.
Last edited by stpete; 08-23-2009 at 04:32 AM.
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08-23-2009, 11:28 AM #99
Just havent updated yet but goin good. Shot .75ml of deca in my left delt and .5ml of the test blend in my right delt to see if one is worse then the other. Seems both caused pain but the test blend more. Idk, im guessing its from the eo base since any other base gear would give me zero pain or very very little if any. Just gonna tough it out, take some benadryl, should be good. Doesnt cause any swelling or anything like that. Will update soon yesterday's lower body workout, big workout for me! Feeling stronger and more swole by the day, lovin it! Cant wait til tomorrow when i add 50mg of anadrol ed to the mix. Tryin to blow the fu_k up!
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Ok, good to hear. Keep up the good work.
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08-24-2009, 02:31 PM #101
Day 10 Lower Body
Time to catch up, been so damn busy lately with work. This workout felt real strong and good. Felt dead as hell afterwards so no widowmakers this day thats for sure, next time ill get em in though!
Biceps: Ez-Curls
2 warm up sets
125x6, 125x3, 125x2 (up 10lbs and 3 reps)
Forearms: Pinwheel Curls (this time i counted each arm's rep, not a total per set like before so when i say 6 reps that means 12 reps total, 6 reps each arm)
2 warm up sets
50x6, 50x3, 50x3
Calves: Calves on Leg Press
2 warm up sets
270x12
270x10 (both straight sets, 15sec down, 5sec up each rep)
Hams: Stiff Leg Deads (did em right this time, yeah!)
2 warm up sets
315x12 (killed me here) (up 30lbs and 6 reps!)
Quads: Leg Press
3 warm up sets
630x12 (Up 90lbs)
No abs or cardio today. Calves were so damn sore the next day! This was saturday's workout (missed friday) and today is monday with my calves and quads still dead!Last edited by wukillabee; 08-24-2009 at 02:35 PM.
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08-24-2009, 02:44 PM #102
Day 11 Upper Body
This is today's workout (monday). I started the oxymethylone tabs today. Had an extra half tab among the blisters so just took 75mg pre-workout with my usual 30mg dbol pre-workout. Had amazing pumps today so bad i couldn't even do broom twists! Felt strong and very full today will still vascular as hell! Im surprised since i haven't really touched any real cardio this cycle yet and abs once maybe twice a week so far. Surprised because im trying to eat everything on top of that and not noticing any fat gain really and still rockin the abs! Im seriously gonna start puttin in more cardio and abs though and i think after the orals im gonna hit up some eca and t3 to burn some things up while gaining size. Want to really just see how my body reacts to t3 since ill be using it next cycle with tren , hehe.
Chest: Dips
2 warm up sets
90x15, 90x4, 90x3 (up 6 reps!)
Shoulders: Smith Press Behind Neck
2 warm up sets
205x6, 205x2, 205x2 (up 5 reps)
Triceps: Skull Crushers
2 warm up sets
105x6, 105x2, 105x2 (up 3 reps)
Back Width: Pull Down Behind Neck
2 warm up sets
195x9, 195x4, 195x4 (up 2 reps)
Back Thickness: Need a new one! Did Underhand Pulldowns
2 warm up sets then gave up since i can't do this right
On shoulders i know its kinda low reps (10 total) but want to stay at this weight for now and try to get more reps out of it. Skull crushers on the other hand im ego trippin on it so im gonna lower the weight next time to 95lbs and rep it out.
Back thickness i need a new one guys, what suggestions do you guys have? I already have rack deads and underhand grip barbell rows for thickness, need a third exercise now. The underhand cable pulldown, my pinky and ring finger always slide off, cant get a good grip on it so my grip always gives out way before my back does.
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08-24-2009, 04:32 PM #103New Member
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Try one arm rows for back thickness. Start with your weak side and then match your rep number with your strong side. 2 sets 10-12 then 6-9.
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08-24-2009, 04:48 PM #104
Sounds good, havent done dumbell rows in forever! To be honest though, when i did do them, each arm is equally as strong believe it or not on these. 2 straight sets huh? From my understanding, widowmakers seem to be just a form of a drop set? I thought widowmaker was an actual excercise so i googled it and couldnt find ish on it. Then search some more and it seems you just drop the weight after your last set to a weight you can do 20-30 reps with, like a burn out set it seems. Is that right?
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08-25-2009, 12:07 PM #105New Member
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A widow maker is set used to bring up a weak or lagging body part. Aside from leg days its only done if your doing the 3 day split because of the frequency of training done on the 2 day split.
When I did my widows on leg days (switch to a different type of training for legs as I couldnt sprint or jump at the same level before dc training) I would change it up from blast to blast.
Blast #1
1) Say I did my squats in the smythe rack.... I would do my widow on the leg press with the back pad at its lowest selection point & my feet on the bottom of the platform with my heels hanging off (kinda like you would position your feet for working calves). Burns the hell out of your quads!
2) Hack squat.... Widow would be done on the leg press with the back pad at the highest selection point and my feet up high on the platform (higher than usual). Burns the hell out of your hams!
3) Regular squat..... Widow would be the same. Burns the hell out of everything!
When your ready to move to the 3 day split I'll spill a little more info. As for now just keep plugging away. There are still a few thing your a doing that is not real DC training, other than that everything looks good.
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08-25-2009, 04:37 PM #106
Yeah, im for sure no pro on dc training. Dont have extra funds to contact the owner of it to set something up and train me so just goin off the research ive done on dc training.
I thought i was on the 3 day split? Im training 3 days a week. I train mon, wed, fri, isnt that the 3 day split? The 4 day split from my understanding is mon, tues, thur, fri, not ready for that one yet! Still got much to learn about dc and just this 3 days a week kills me, even on gear! Maybe my next cycle ill be ready for the 4 days, idk? Take baby steps, would rather learn more about it all then jump in too quick.
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08-25-2009, 05:05 PM #107
Week 5 Day 1 Off
Im going to start putting in the week and day in titles to make it easier for everyone to see where im at. Today is the start of week 5 and just started adding in the anadrol yesterday. Going to step on the scale later tonite to see where im at, just curious. Shot my left glute yesterday, not too bad. Seems with this gear my glutes, quads, and delts take the shots the best, tris are the worst! Gonna probably just stick with glutes and delts, 4 sites for 2 injects a week (dont really count my hcg shots).
So far so good now. Ive been having random gyno flare ups here and there. To hopefully get rid of it all, i started my letro tabs at 1.25mg lastnite along with my 1mg of l-dex and .5mg of prami! Right now theres no more sensitivity in the nips really but some very slight hardness behind them. Hopefully the letro will knock that out. Im not sure how long it takes for letro to take effect so continuing the l-dex ed at 1mg just to be safe. Im sure ill know when the letro kicks when i dry out and joints start to hurt. Then ill drop the l-dex and continue the letro as long as needed. I have plenty of letro tabs and even more liquid letro so i have plenty if needed. I think next cycle im going to go with aromasin on cycle instead of l-dex. L-dex seems pretty wack to me for gyno prevention.
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08-25-2009, 06:01 PM #108New Member
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Your doing the 2 day split, its confusing, I thought it was a 3 day split & a 4 day split but its 2 & 3.
Your doing pretty damn good imo from just going off research.
I was lucky enough to train with one of DC's clients. If I didnt I would've been lost. By your 5th or 6th blast you should be understanding it all pretty well.
Make sure you cruise after every 6-8 weeks. Its easy to keep on blasting especially while on gear. Take that 7-10 days and lift light and come back with an appetite for destruction. During your cruise, play around with new exercises that you might be interested in adding to your next blast. Also during your cruise week you can drop back on your calories a bit.
We'll talk more about this when you get there.
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08-25-2009, 06:38 PM #109
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Sounds like a plan. Its always hard to start a cruise, especially when you keep getting stronger and stronger. If we dont cruise, we set ourselfs up for injury or over training.
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08-26-2009, 02:51 PM #111
Week 5 Day 2 Lower Body, Wednesday
Today was another successful workout beating the log book! Knees felt a bit dry on squats but not bad enough to hinder my lifts. Must be all the damn AI's in me right now!
I switched over to aromasin last night starting at 25mg ed and still taking letro at 1.25mg ed which i started a couple days ago. Taking them together since letro can take a good 30 days to kick in, don't want to be without an ai for 30 days with gyno symptoms! To be honest though, at this point the gyno is about gone already! Zero sensitivity now and the lumps have gone down dramatically already. Once the lumps are completely gone and i feel satisfied, i will stop the letro but stay on the aromasin and find a dose with that thats tolerable without hindering gains. Once all sides are gone i will try aromasin at 12.5mg ed and see how that goes.
Biceps: Machine Preacher Curls
2 warm up sets
120x7, 120x3, 120x3 (up 3 reps)
Forearms: Hammer Curls
2 warm up sets
60x7, 60x4, 60x3 (up 4 reps)
Calves: Seated Calf Raises
2 warm up sets
160x6
160x7 (Lowered weight to do straight sets)
Hams: Lying Leg Curls
2 warm up sets
150x7, 150x4, 150x3 (up 4 reps)
Quads: Squats
3 warm up sets
255x9 (up 1 rep, tear)
I know the rep range on calves for straight sets is still kind of low but seriously picturing lowering the weight even more than that for more reps is hard to do. I dont see how doing my warm up weight for double the reps is gonna build me huge calves. For this calf exercise im going to stay with this weight and just move up each week on the rep range, did 2 straight sets to make up for the low rep range, 15sec down, 5sec up on each rep.
Squats oh squats, my worst exercise ever! I can leg press and hack squat all day long but old school squats ass to the floor each rep is another story, never been strong on these. Today I did only 1 rep more then last time. I probably still had it in me to do maybe one more rep but felt i would have half assed it goin maybe half way down instead of calves to my ass like i always do and didn't have a spot for it. Hopefully next time around i can make up for it and next blast will be squats on smith machine so no worries like this will happen!
Haven't felt the drol kick in yet but its day 2, gonna give it a good week or two to expect much from it.
My weight now is 207lb from last night, up 10lbs from start of cycle. I feel this is minimal water weight since i still look dry, more vascular then ive ever seen, and considering all the damn AI's in my system and water intake, id say half that weight gain is water weight.
Deca , well its my first time so not sure what to expect. Joints feel fine and knees feel pretty good now, thats about all im noticing, haha! Hope 450mg of deca a week can do more then that for me though. Still its early, im sure by next week and for sure by week 7 the deca should be kicking in nicely! Maybe some deca users can chime in on what i should expect from it at this piont?
Tomorrow im off so for sure will make a good effort to do 45min of cardio first thing in the morning with some abs at home before i hit the beach. Need to start gettin on that cardio, feelin lazy without it. Still, don't see much of any fat gain yet, just big hard muscles, haha. Still need to get on that cardio though, want a clean bulk and some extra cuts here and there would be nice. After all, its still summer over here, cant get too bulky lookin!
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08-26-2009, 02:53 PM #112
The Olympia is a couple of weeks away. How is your condition? What will you be weighing in at on stage? I have you top 5 for sure
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08-26-2009, 05:01 PM #113
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08-26-2009, 05:27 PM #114
As soon as I went green my inbox started to blow up. Its like ok I know a bit about AAS, diet and training, source and source checks yeah right I'm about as good at that as a 150lber wanting to do dbol only cycles thinking I know about diet and training. So far so good.
My Olympia debut is years in the making.... first I gotta get the Mr. USA title... send funds....
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09-01-2009, 02:22 PM #116
Week 5 Day 4 Upper Body Friday
Felt pretty pumped today, felt good going into the gym.
Chest: Incline Smith
3 warm up sets
275x6, 275x4, 275x2 (up 20lb)
Shoulders: Hammer Strength Press
2 warm up sets
180x7, 180x3, 180x2 (Up 20lbs)
Triceps: Close Grip Smith
2 warm up sets
225x6, 225x3, 225x2 (Up 4 reps)
Back Width: Front Pull Down
2 warm up sets
210x8, 210x4, 210x3 (Up 3 reps)
Back Thickness: Rack Deads
3 warm up sets
335x8 (up 2 reps)
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09-01-2009, 02:24 PM #117
Week 5 Weekend Off
Took the weekend off as normal with some nice cheat meals here and there. Weight is still goin up slowly but surely and strength keeps going up every workout! Still feel solid and surprised my abs and waist are the same if not a tad better considering ive done cardio maybe 3x this whole cycle and abs maybe once a week of that! Couldn't imagine how ripped id be doin cardio and abs the way im suppose to! Gonna get on that soon, just the sun rises round 7am here at 85f lately, too hot for me to be out there doin cardio and no way i can wake up that early with my schedule! Seriously, ima get on it soon for sure!
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09-01-2009, 02:26 PM #118
Week 5 Day 7 SICK
Woke up at 2am today throwing up. Would feel better, fall back asleep, wake up an hour later throwing up again! This went on til about 6am. Needless to say i stayed home today off work feeling like crap trying to eat and rest! Still, to my surprise i didn't lose much weight. Im still at about 209-210lbs! My starting weight was 196lb i believe. Scared though once i drop the orals its all over, haha.
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09-01-2009, 02:34 PM #119
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09-01-2009, 02:35 PM #120
Week 6 Day 1 Lower Body Tuesday
Doin yesterday's workout. Damn, this prami has got me sleepin in like a mofo, can't wake the fu$k up! Felt real sluggish today but still banged out a decent workout. Gonna make a big effort to go to bed early tonight right after work, need to start wakin up earlier!
Quick update:
All my gyno/erses are gone now and now i have the dry knees again! This is what and probably the only thing im hatin about this cycle. I can have some gyno symptoms/erses and have great feeling kness or have no gyno/erses and have dry knees that hurt when hack squating a mere 90lbs, wtf? Trying to find a medium with dosages on my ai but still no avail. Right now im doing l-dex at .75mg eod and prami at .75mg ed an hour before bed. Stopped the letro a few days ago since all gyno symptoms are gone so no real use to keep taking it. Ill see how this protocol works out.
Biceps: Alternate Dumbell Curls
2 warm up sets
50x6, 50x3, 50x4 (Same)
Forearms: Barbell Wrist Curls
2 warm up sets
95x8, 95x4, 95x3 (up 10lbs)
Calves: Standing Calf Raises
2 warm up sets
237.5x8
237.5x5 (down 3 reps)
Hams: Seated Leg Curls
3 warm up sets
195x8, 195x6, 195x5 (up 15lbs)
Quads: Hack Squats
2 warm up sets
270x10 (up 2 reps)
On the standing calf raises im going to do these rest pause. I know thats not the protocol but for me on this exercise, going down 15sec, up 5sec, etc slides my feet back on the machine. By the time i get to about 6 reps my feet are about to slip off already while my calves still have energy to do more.
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