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09-23-2009, 02:15 PM #41
Update
SHIT!!!
I just got the call to go back to work today, I start tomorrow. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, it just throws everything I had planned for a loop. I do outside Line work construction so i'll be working out of a truck all day... Everything is going to have to change, and I only have one day to prepare for it.
Ok, so if I get up early enough, i'll have my eggs/oats meal, then i'll pack 3 chicken/rice meals then get home, workout, pwo have a shake then 1 hour later have the Lean beef and potatoes meal, then finish the day with some CC and PB and that's it. The diet won't be as clean as before, there's just no way to nail it perfect while working 12 hour days so everything won't be PERFECT like I planned with the diet ect but i'm still going to continue my cycle and nail the diet the best I can... It's going to take a lot more will power now.
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09-23-2009, 03:33 PM #42
You can do it man. I used to work in contruction 10hrs a day and still manage to eat clean.
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09-23-2009, 07:57 PM #43
Now i'm getting a little chest cold or something, feel like plain shit.. A little fever... I've noticed quite a few of these during peoples logs, I wonder if it's juice related. Feel like ass.. "when it rains, it pours" right?
I'll push through all of this... I won't let work, or whatever the hell this shit is i'm catching bring me down, I've come to far to **** up now.
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09-25-2009, 01:18 PM #44
Day 9
Feeling ALOT better. Drank a ton of water and took a lot of vitamin c and ate 1.5 cups of cottage cheese every 4 hours... It was a rough ass day but I made it and here I stand on day 9
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Workout - Shoulder/Calves
Military press 10,8,8
Seated DB press 12,10,6
Side db raise 12,10,8
Rear delt db raise 10,10,8
DB shrugs 12,10,8
Seated calf 15,12,10
Standing calf 15,12,10
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09-25-2009, 11:44 PM #45
Lookin Swol! Keep it up man. I know a lot of people might disagree with me on this but while on this strict diet, dont forget to feed that ego of yours... Your fixing to get MASSIVE. I will be monitoring your progress. I am considering a cycle identical to yours in the next couple of months, so I am very interested. Are you planning a second cycle?
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09-26-2009, 04:14 PM #46
Hey man thanks for the complements I appreciate it.
I haven't planned a second cycle, and don't think I will as of now. Told myself going into this that I would only do it for the plateau breaker and to experience it for myself since I felt I was ready to do so... You never know what the future brings though, so far I don't enjoy the pinning and have had a few sides I don't enjoy to much but I am loving the good mood feeling, power, sex drive and size gains i'm getting and the test hasn't even kicked in!
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09-26-2009, 04:55 PM #47New Member
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What kind of sides are you experiencing from the dbol ? I haven't gotten any sides at all, other than 20 lb gain in 3 weeks lol
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09-26-2009, 11:01 PM #48
Yea, i didnt experience any sides with dbol either...
what sides do you have?
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09-27-2009, 12:12 AM #49
Woke up in a puddle of sweat a couple nights and a couple pimples on chest and shoulders but not bad though. Nothing major.
Hit my back today and noticed a big increase on my wide grip hanging pull ups I gained 5 reps on those and gained 3 reps on my final set of dead lifts to (315x8)... Strength is going up fast.
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Workout - Back
Hanging wide pull-ups 12,10,9
Dead Lift 12,10,8
1 Arm DB Rows 12,10,8
T-Bar Rows 12,10,8
Did some ab work and got out of there. Workout was great noticed a much bigger pump, lower back pump was a bit much but not a WHOLE lot more then normal. I'm loving what i'm seeing though fellas, i'll have to take some shots in 2 weeks after the dbol is done.
My girlfriend said to me the earlier today "It seems like ever time I see you, you look bigger" LOL
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09-28-2009, 07:59 PM #50
Day 12
Power is up! Weight is moving slow but i'm noticing everything looks bigger, no bloat, doesn't look like i'm holding much water at all, standing at 208lbs.
Today was the first day I can say I actually noticed the dbol "kick in" All I can say is today was my best workout ever, I felt like a complete animal. I was SO much stronger then normal.. I'll be honest I was a little disappointed the dbol until today, now I can't wait to see what happens in these next 2 weeks. I'm now a believer, dbol is the real deal.
Starting weight; 202
Now:208(+6)
Workout - Chest
Incline BB Press 12,10,8
Flat BB Press 12,10,8
Incline DB Flys 10,10,8
Weighted Dips 12,10,7
Seated Fly Machine 12,12,10
I got out of there because my head was telling me to, but my body wanted to keep banging out sets, it was a good one.Last edited by xnotoriousx; 10-05-2009 at 05:02 PM.
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09-29-2009, 09:00 AM #51Junior Member
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Hehe, sounds like you're still in for a ride. I'm currently planning the same cycle, though with different doses. When you're doing sets, are you then using the same weight?
E.g.:
Dips 12, 10, 7. Same weight?
Hoping all the best for you, seems a bit harsh that they call you back right when you're on haha. Btw, two questions:
- have you had any acne before taking gear? I'm acne "prone" in the face, so Im trying to gather as much knowledge on this field.
- how's the nosebleeding? Still having it?
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09-29-2009, 04:18 PM #52
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09-30-2009, 05:38 PM #53
Day 14
Starting weight; 202
Now:210(+8)
Workout - Biceps and Triceps
BB Curls 12,10,9
One Arm DB Preacher Curls 10,10,8
Standing DB Curls 12,10,10
Skull Crushers 12,10,10
Close Grip 10,10,8
Rope Pull Down 12,10,8
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The workouts are getting pretty damn intense, I felt like my arms were going to rip out of my skin today. All my shirts are getting tight on me and i'm getting a lot of complements from people around me, it can't be long until they catch on. I'll never admit it!!!
If I can give anyone advice that is planning on running dbol for the first time, it's this. Never let your water intake slip, I messed up yesterday and didn't drink enough water and boom, lower back pump was so intense throughout the day it's not even funny.
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10-01-2009, 10:02 AM #54
Took a shot just see if there's any visible change after 2 weeks.. What do you think?? Looks like i'm holding more water then I thought. Up to 211 that's 9lbs in 2 weeks.
1st pic Before starting Cycle 2nd pic 2 Weeks into Cycle
Last edited by xnotoriousx; 10-01-2009 at 10:08 AM.
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10-01-2009, 05:14 PM #55
Looks like you are holding a bit more water, yes.
But that just makes you look fuller when you don't have excess bodyfat!
I'll be following this and seeing what is gonna happen with this cycle
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10-01-2009, 08:48 PM #56
Get Swoll brotha man,
I bet your fillin out the shirts man... When I was on DBOL and did Bi's it felt like my arms were gonna rip from the pump. Sound familiar?
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10-02-2009, 11:11 PM #57
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10-03-2009, 12:13 AM #58Anabolic Member
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not bad pics, ur definetaly holding fair bit of water, dw im carrying twice asmuch
consider urself lucky lol
plus helps make u look bigger
keep it up
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10-03-2009, 03:29 AM #59
good progress mate.....
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10-05-2009, 03:37 PM #60
What's up fellas? Just a little update...
I come in my room the other night and my girl has this weird ass face on and I knew something was up, next thing I know she hits me with the "is there something you want to tell me?" line.
She found my pins!!!
My heart dropped but after a long time of explaining the risks and chances involved of use of AS she was ok with it but still didn't like it. Family issues led me to miss the past 2 days in the gym, my diet to go all out of whack and yesterday I misssed a entire day of dbol so there's been a lot of shit causing my deit and training to be weak as hell lately but I won't let it stop me from getting back on the horse. It kills me because I wanted to make sure everything was perfect when I started but real life situations have made a few day during my early cycle not so perfect but it's all good. I'm still strong and feeling good and i'm moving forward from here. My weight is still at 211lbs so we'll see what happens
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10-05-2009, 04:47 PM #61
Day 19
Starting weight; 202
Now:211(+9)
Workout - Back and Triceps
Deads 12,8,8
Wide Pullups 10,10,8
Bent Rows 10,10,8
Seated Close Grip Rows 12,10,8
Dips
Skull Crushers
Rope
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Just did my 6th pin. Hit my quad for the second time, they seem to be so much better then the glute shots, much less soreness thus far. Looking forward to seeing how I react to the test when it kicks in. The dbol is pretty nice, hoping the test is just as good.
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10-05-2009, 04:51 PM #62
quad shots too me are the worst, i love the glutes alot easier
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10-05-2009, 05:21 PM #63
Check out this back pic from march of this year lol
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10-05-2009, 05:28 PM #64
+20lbs from then to now and just started my cycle... You think i'm being reasonable to expect to be around 215 lean (9-10% BF) at the end of my PCT?
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10-05-2009, 06:45 PM #65
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10-06-2009, 01:55 PM #66
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Last edited by xnotoriousx; 10-12-2009 at 11:33 AM.
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10-06-2009, 04:44 PM #67
Here's a couple more from today, I feel so much bigger but it's not really showing up to me in the pics, maybe it's just the way this stuff makes you feel. I'm only 3 weeks in so I still got a ways to go... I think the past few days messing up my diet hurt me a little but i'm back at it strong did perfect all day today so i'll just need to keep it repetitive.
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10-06-2009, 06:20 PM #69
Yeah I think i'm going to take it and only run this one for 8 weeks, I've been told almost the exact same advice from a big guy at my gym so I took it as a sign
Think i'm going to cut the dbol off after 5 weeks though
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10-07-2009, 09:11 AM #70
Day 21
Starting weight; 202
Now:213
Workout - Cardio&Abs
Circuit Workout for ABS
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I'm not up as much weight as I thought i'd be after seeing all these guys that blow up 20lbs in the first 3 weeks but o well, can't say i'm disappointed because I never thought i'd see the day my scale said 210+
I've thought about adding in cals to my diet but don't think I should because i'm already experiencing some fat gain so I don't want to goto the extreme, my overall goal is to be lean at the end of this thing so i'm not wanting to go to far over maintenance...
Also these past few days of slipping on my diet probably....well definitely hurt my gains over the past couple days but i'm back at it and waiting on that test to kick in should be around 1-2 more weeks really looking forward to it
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10-07-2009, 09:44 AM #71
I'm going to be adding Grape Fruit Extract to my diet 10 drop 3x a day. Been reading a lot about how it can really help out the dbol so i'm going to give it a shot since I've only got 2 weeks left on it
Here's the article if anyone is interested
Name: Grapefruit
Scientific Name: Citrus paradisi
Grapefruit is believed to be native to Jamaica. Grapefruit trees were planted in Florida in the early 19th century. The United States is the largest producer of grapefruit in the world.
PROPERTIES
High in vitamin C and potassium.
A good source of folate, iron, calcium, and other minerals.
Pink and red varieties are high in beta carotene, a precursor of vitamin A.
High in fiber, low in calories.
PECTIN
Grapefruit contains pectin (found in the pulp/rind), a form of soluble fibre that can bind to cholesterol.
In a 16-week double-blind, crossover (placebo or pectin) study using 27 human volunteers screened to be at medium to high risk for coronary heart disease due to hypercholesterolemia, grapefruit pectin supplementation decreased plasma cholesterol by 7.6% and low-density lipoprotein cholesterol by 10.8%. The study did not interfere with the subjects' current diet or lifestyle. (1)
In animal studies, grapefruit pectin inhibited the formation of atherosclerosis. Animals fed a high fat diet plus grapefruit pectin had 24% narrowing of their arteries, while animals fed only the high fat diet had 45% narrowing. (2)
LYCOPENE
Lycopene is a powerful antioxidant, it is the pigment found in fruits and vegetables, providing the colour of tomatoes (which are the best source of lycopene), water melon and pink/red grapefruit.
There is some evidence that a diet high in lycopene may reduce the risk of prostate cancer, according to the first epidemiological study on this, conducted at Harvard University,
Men who ate a diet rich in tomato sauce, ketchup or other tomato-based products containing the powerful antioxidant known as lycopene were up to one third less likely to develop the disease. (3)
Although there are no double-blind studies on lycopene at present, the results of observational studies are promising and further research is needed.
GRAPEFRUIT JUICE DRUG INTERACTIONS
This food-drug interaction was actually discovered by accident. A study that was intending to test the interaction of alcohol and a blood pressure medication, used a mixture of alcohol with grapefruit juice to disguise the taste of alcohol for the study. Ironically, alcohol had no effect on the tested medication, but the grapefruit juice seemed to enhance the absorption of the drug. (4)
The researchers then confirmed the finding by comparing drug levels when taken with either grapefruit juice or water and found five-fold higher blood levels of the drug when it was taken with juice. Orange juice did not show this effect.
Grapefruit juice inhibits a special enzyme (CYP3A4) in the intestines that is responsible for the natural breakdown and absorption of many medications. When the action of this enzyme is blocked, the blood levels of these medications increase, which can lead potentially toxic side effects from the medications.
Research has suggested that flavonoids and/or furanocoumarin present in Grapefruit are the substances that act to block the enzyme in the intestines that normally metabolizes many drugs.
Some medications that interact with grapefruit juice: (5)
Statins (Cholesterol Lowering Drugs)
Antihistamines: Terfenadine
Calcium Channel Blockers (Blood Pressure Drugs):
Anti-convulsant: Tegretol (Carbamazepine)
Anxiolytics: Valium (Diazepam)
Anti-depressant: Sertraline Clomipramine
Cortico-steroids : Methylprednisolone
Oestrogens: Ethinyl estradiol
Anabolic Steroids: Dianabol
Impotence Drug: Viagra
Although some drugs are given with others to enhance their effects, grapefruit juice should not be used for this purpose because its impact can be unpredictable and potentially dangerous.
The above list is by no means exhaustive. Please consult with your doctor or pharmacist regarding possible interactions between grapefruit juice and medications you may currently be taking if you consume grapefruit/ juice regularly..
THE GRAPEFRUIT DIET
Most serious dieters at one time or another have been told to eat grapefruit. Proponents of the Grapefruit Diet believe that grapefruit contains a special fat-burning enzyme.
The Grapefruit Diet, originally called the Hollywood Diet, started in the 1930s and has come back in various forms many times since then. Dieters on this diet are permitted a few vegetables, tiny amounts of Protein and lots of grapefruit.
The only study conducted into Grapefruit Diets was performed by Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, and interestingly on behalf of and sponsored by the Florida Citrus Department!
The 13 week diet study consisted of 45 adults with a BMI of 30 kg/m (termed obese) seeking weight loss. All patients were placed on a low-calorie, low-fat diet which was designed to produce an average weight loss of 1-2 pounds per week. All subjects were asked to consume two servings of Florida grapefruit or grapefruit juice each day. (6)
This study, wasn't particularly valuable in proving whether grapefruit works as a weight-loss aid. There was no control group of people who didn't eat any grapefruit and the weight loss experienced by the partints could perfectly be explained by putting any obese person on a low calorie diet, regardless of whether grapefruit was included or not.
The reason that Grapefruit Diets work, as with many other fad diets is because dieters simply limit their caloric intake to less than 900 calories a day. As soon as you come off the diet, you will gain weight again because firstly these diets do nothing to change long term eating habits and secondly the body interprets a crash diet so low in calories as starvation, hence the body compensates by slowing down metabolism to conserve all available energy. This lowered level of metabolism makes future weight loss much more difficult.
In summary grapefruit has no active properties that burn up fat. It is a healthy, high in fibre and low in calorie food that makes a good addition to any healthy diet as should other fruits and vegetables.
References:
(1) The effects of grapefruit pectin on patients at risk for coronary heart disease without altering diet or lifestyle.
Cerda JJ, Robbins FL, Burgin CW, Baumgartner TG, Rice RW.
Department of Medicine, University of Florida College of Medicine, Gainesville 32610. Clin Cardiol. 1988 Sep;11(9):589-94
(2) Inhibition of atherosclerosis by dietary pectin in microswine with sustained hypercholesterolemia.
Cerda JJ, Normann SJ, Sullivan MP, Burgin CW, Robbins FL, Vathada S, Leelachaikul P.
Department of Medicine, University of Florida College of Medicine, Gainesville.Circulation. 1994 Mar;89(3):1247-53.
(3) A prospective study of tomato products, lycopene, and prostate cancer risk.
Giovannucci E, Rimm EB, Liu Y, Stampfer MJ, Willett WC.
Channing Laboratory, Department of Medicine, Brigham and Women's Hospital and Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA, USA.J Natl Cancer Inst. 2002 Mar 6;94(5):391-8.
(4) Grapefruit juice-drug interactions.
Bailey DG, Malcolm J, Arnold O, Spence JD.
Department of Medicine, London Health Sciences Centre, Ontario, Canada.Br J Clin Pharmacol. 1998 Aug;46(2):101-10. .
(5) http ://secure.pharmacytimes.com/lessons/200303-02.asp
(6) Johns Hopkins University Weight Management Centre and Florida Dept. of Citrus, P.O. Box 148, Lakeland, FL 33802.
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10-08-2009, 04:49 AM #72New Member
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Grapefruit myth broken
I got my Dbombs today so i took 10mg with my next meal that i happen to be drinking FRESCA with. I drink a lot of FRESCA because it has 0 cal. Anyway worked out biceps 2hrs later. I had the most extreme workout ever,my arms felt like they were going to fall of or explode. Then i was browsing cycles and saw this article and thought uhoh i remembered reading a soda i drink with grapefruit in it. So this morning i looked and there you go FRESCA is a good grapefruit source for Dbomb. Funny cuz at first i thought grapefruit messed up the drug not enhanced it.
10mg Dbomb + grapefruit cycle lol. cant imagine 10mg morning 10mg preworkout with grapefruit and in my 4th week test e OMG. FYI only 2nd week
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10-08-2009, 12:34 PM #73
Hey anything that might help..... Why not?
I'm drinking grapefruit extract 3x a day now, i'll see how it goes compared to the first 3 weeks of taking dbol without it.
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10-12-2009, 11:10 AM #74
Day 26
Rounding week 4
I took a couple progress shots after the 4 week so tell me what you guys think i'm working hard over here... All my lifts are up big!
Starting weight; 202
Now:215
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10-12-2009, 08:53 PM #75
Workout - Shoulder/Calves
Military press 10,10,8,6
shoulder press machine 12,10,8
side db raise 12,10,8,
DB shrugs 12,10,10
Seated calf 15,12,10,10
Standing calf 15,12,10,10
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At this point each workout I have is my new best workout i've ever had so that's good... I'm guessing that the rate of gains/strength will drop when I come off the dbol in a week or so... Not looking forward to that. Test should be kicking in, pretty excited to see how I react to it.Last edited by xnotoriousx; 10-12-2009 at 08:59 PM.
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10-13-2009, 05:41 AM #76
Looking a bit more solid.
Gains have just started to kick in though (week 4).
Some gains from Dbol for sure (about 2 working weeks for strength, 1 for mass).
You are going to look real good afterwards, now enjoy the ride
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10-13-2009, 09:41 AM #77
Where are the wheels?
You look wider, chest looks a lil bigger and tighter, your forearms look like they are going to explode, and I wish you could get some straight-on shots instead of the angle... Arms look a tad thicker... Delt's look bigger n more defined.
Keep it up
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10-13-2009, 10:54 AM #78Originally Posted by green182;4***837
I'll get a wheel pic up.. I'll try to improve the pics also, it's a shitty cam phone i'm just leaning up against a candle on a end table so not much to work with lol...
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10-13-2009, 11:30 AM #79
Here's a couple leg shots, they are getting stronger then anything else, not sure if it's because i've been injecting only quad and gluts or because it's the biggest muscle not really sure.
Bis are right below the 17" mark so I should have some 17.5 hopefully at the end of this cycle. that would be 3/4 inch gain so i'm hoping to achieve that.
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10-13-2009, 07:53 PM #80
Man, You have TRANSFORMED since you have been on here. I remember that avatar you had up, what was it a rat or sumthing... I dunno haha but yea man you look Awesome to say the least.
Way better pix. You are Really Proportionate, your legs look great, I can't wait to see em get bigger in the upcoming weeks; your calves look good also (Where I lack)
Overall you look Solid man. Keep it up man
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