Female's First Anavar Cycle

**boundup** · 09-19-2010, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by amar306

Well it appears that so far the cycle isn't effecting my hormones too much, I was taken off guard by my period this morning.

Awesome...

I was kinda hoping I'd get a break from it for a while! Oh well!

In other news my whole body hurts. Just sitting here my whole body aches. Back, traps, legs are all destroyed from deadlifts, and my arms are killing me from the arm workout yesterday. I thought I was going to be recovering faster on this stuff...Why am I not recovering faster?!?

I didn't really recover any quicker when I was on my Var cycle and I was constantly in state of being 'pumped'. I have a fairly physically demanding job and there were days I was almost in tears because my traps, delts and tris were just tense as hell.

Nice pic btw - Looks like you have a solid base.

**swamp88** · 09-19-2010, 10:17 PM

your pics look great. i heard var takes awhile to kick, u \ 2 weeks or less?

**amar306** · 09-19-2010, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by HitIt

how is your sleep?

My sleep is actually pretty good, I average 8-9 hours a night. On rare occasions I'll only get 7, other times i'll get 10.

I always train in the late afternoon sometimes evening, so sometimes I have a hard time getting to sleep after all the energy supplements.

But I actually just bought a sleep aid tonight along with a liver support supplement, so hopefully that will help!

**amar306** · 09-19-2010, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by boundup

I didn't really recover any quicker when I was on my Var cycle and I was constantly in state of being 'pumped'. I have a fairly physically demanding job and there were days I was almost in tears because my traps, delts and tris were just tense as hell.

Nice pic btw - Looks like you have a solid base.

Ugh I know exactly what you mean! Like I've said earlier I'm a trainer so I'm constantly working people out and I'm so involved with their sessions its like I'm working out with them...But I guess it's better than a sedentary job right?

And thank you! I appreciate it!

**amar306** · 09-19-2010, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by swamp88

your pics look great. i heard var takes awhile to kick, u \ 2 weeks or less?

Today is day 8 at 10mg...so I'm still waiting to feel it's full effect.

**BJJ** · 09-20-2010, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by amar306

Well it appears that so far the cycle isn't effecting my hormones too much, I was taken off guard by my period this morning.

Awesome...

I was kinda hoping I'd get a break from it for a while! Oh well!

In other news my whole body hurts. Just sitting here my whole body aches. Back, traps, legs are all destroyed from deadlifts, and my arms are killing me from the arm workout yesterday. I thought I was going to be recovering faster on this stuff...Why am I not recovering faster?!?

It could be led from several reasons.

In my experience, Oxa is the strongest compound to recover from w/o and from pain associated in tendonds and joints, even stronger than NPP.

Just give it a time, a month at least.

**amar306** · 09-20-2010, 12:04 PM

Well I took that sleep supplement last night, Valerian root extract and I passed out for 9.5 hours.

I hate it thought that even though I slept that much I still feel groggy, and felt horribly sick to my stomach. Maybe the liver support?

Ugh. Either way I still feel like I've been hit by a truck. Time to go to work! :P

**boundup** · 09-21-2010, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by amar306

Well I took that sleep supplement last night, Valerian root extract and I passed out for 9.5 hours.

I hate it thought that even though I slept that much I still feel groggy, and felt horribly sick to my stomach. Maybe the liver support?

Ugh. Either way I still feel like I've been hit by a truck. Time to go to work! :P

How are you feeling so far?

**amar306** · 09-21-2010, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by boundup

How are you feeling so far?

Thanks for asking!

I slept about 10.5 hours last night, I think I should stop taking the Valerian root because its so powerful. I still feel groggy!

I'm feeling a little better today though, my joints dont seem to hurt as much anymore so i'm going to hit the gym here in a bit.

I cant really say I've seen any noticeable physical changes in myself, which is a little depressing. However I'm still under the 2 week mark so I'm sure if I give it more time I'll start to see somethings happening. My strength is definitely going up so at least I know this stuff is working somehow!

**amar306** · 09-21-2010, 06:48 PM

Odd question... I'm just wondering if anyone has experienced this.

I've heard of people feeling an overall feeling of "well being" while on this stuff, as well as cases of slight depression after come off of it. This isn't what I think I'm experiencing.

Within the few hours of taking a dose my head feels foggy. Its hard to explain...like a mixture of being slightly intoxicated and dizzy. My senses feel a little duller, and I feel like have a harder time staying alert.

Anyone have any experience with this? Or is this just making me crazy? :/

**boundup** · 09-21-2010, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by amar306

Odd question... I'm just wondering if anyone has experienced this.

I've heard of people feeling an overall feeling of "well being" while on this stuff, as well as cases of slight depression after come off of it. This isn't what I think I'm experiencing.

Within the few hours of taking a dose my head feels foggy. Its hard to explain...like a mixture of being slightly intoxicated and dizzy. My senses feel a little duller, and I feel like have a harder time staying alert.

Anyone have any experience with this? Or is this just making me crazy? :/

Eh, I had similar effects but it honestly varied. On some days I would be hazy and disconnected and other days I was just fine. My sex drive died after about a week or so until I started using test. Other than that, I would usually just get mild stomach discomfort and then once it was really kicking in, I had no sides. Except those pumps... dear god.

**Morgoth** · 09-22-2010, 03:40 AM

You should start seeing physical results after about week 3 or so.

**amcon** · 09-22-2010, 10:01 PM

nice keep it up!!!

**amar306** · 09-23-2010, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by amcon

nice keep it up!!!

I will thank you!

Almost to the 2 week mark! Once I hit the 3 week mark I'll be upping my dose by another 2.5 assuming I still don't have any sides. I'm feeling a lot better now that I've caught up on my sleep, I think that plus all the hard training was slowing me down.

I'll keep you guys updated!

**40plusnewbie** · 09-23-2010, 05:00 AM

Originally Posted by amar306

Well it appears that so far the cycle isn't effecting my hormones too much, I was taken off guard by my period this morning.

Awesome...

I was kinda hoping I'd get a break from it for a while! Oh well!

In other news my whole body hurts. Just sitting here my whole body aches. Back, traps, legs are all destroyed from deadlifts, and my arms are killing me from the arm workout yesterday. I thought I was going to be recovering faster on this stuff...Why am I not recovering faster?!?

I can relate. One day recently I went to the gym in the mid am and worked 2 body parts REAL hard. That afternoon/early eve I was feeling good so went back for a 2nd workout and worked 2 more body parts REAL HARD. I was loving it as I was struggling for like 1 minute to get up that one last rep while sweating like a pig but I wound up paying for it over the next few days. Got drained. Kind of felt like i had the mild flu, slept a LOT more than usual. Figured I pushed to the limit and my body needed the time it needed to recover.

**40plusnewbie** · 09-23-2010, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by amar306

LOL I suppose if I was really patient I wouldnt be doing this cycle.

When I was training today I was noticing that my joints were really hurting me, much more than they ever have. My oh sin, my trainer partner, told me its because I'm lifting so much more now, and muscles can handle it but my joints can't keep up! Ugh! So I gotta take a couple days off which sucks!

And thank you for your kind words! I'll keep you guys updated with my progress!

You know, based on some recent research I did which I found very interesting around connective tissues like tendons: Tests weakens them (on a temp basis) along with some other steroids . On the other hand Var, EQ, Primo, Deca , HGH actually aid collagen synthesis which is what goes into healing and keeping our joints and connective tissues STRONGER. That is one of the reasons I started my current cycle out on var, I have had tendinitis due to over-training my non dominant hand/wrist and also have a lingering bicep tendon issue (it frayed, healed but scarred up so was swollen so when shoulder muscles would rub past it I would experience discomfort.

I wanted to see if the var would take away these symptoms. (btw winny, even thou it aids in collagen synthesis there is some aspect of the process that makes the tendons actually enlarge and become more brittle, making one more prone to injury).

Since starting the var i have added ghrp-2 and cjc w/o dat which could also have similar healing properties.

Bottom line, shoulder injury 2 yrs old, no longer bothering me. Tendinitis 5 months, no longer bothering me so I can get back to doing some intensive hand/wrist/finger strengthening exercises.

Don't know if this is specific to males but wouldn't think so. So longer term this var could be good for your joints and connective tissues, making them stronger.

ALTHOUGH, I think I do remember something about var and leg pain and it being a potential problem so I would look into that, specifically if the pain is centered around the legs. I have poor memory so body part might be wrong but think it was the legs and pain as a side to potentially call the doctor about.

**40plusnewbie** · 09-23-2010, 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by amar306

Well I took that sleep supplement last night, Valerian root extract and I passed out for 9.5 hours.

I hate it thought that even though I slept that much I still feel groggy, and felt horribly sick to my stomach. Maybe the liver support?

Ugh. Either way I still feel like I've been hit by a truck. Time to go to work! :P

U could try melatonin as another over the counter sleep aid. they come in 2mg, 5mg, and 10mg tabs i believe. My wife uses them.

**40plusnewbie** · 09-23-2010, 05:24 AM

Originally Posted by amar306

Thanks for asking!

I slept about 10.5 hours last night, I think I should stop taking the Valerian root because its so powerful. I still feel groggy!

I'm feeling a little better today though, my joints dont seem to hurt as much anymore so i'm going to hit the gym here in a bit.

I cant really say I've seen any noticeable physical changes in myself, which is a little depressing. However I'm still under the 2 week mark so I'm sure if I give it more time I'll start to see somethings happening. My strength is definitely going up so at least I know this stuff is working somehow!

What dose r u on now? How many years training? I know ur a trainer so you've been in the gym moving weights more than most all women on the planet for x # of years. I'm not competent to speak to dosages but maybe some seasoned vets could check in with you around that. In other words if your only on 2.5mg/day, given your serious workout history maybe it's just like your an avg woman going into the gym after eating an extra banana for energy pre work out lol j/k with the exaggeration.

Also, do you have children? The reason I ask is due to the possibility of an overloaded schedule that could be draining energy and an adjustment might be worth considering.

**amar306** · 09-23-2010, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by 40plusnewbie

What dose r u on now? How many years training? I know ur a trainer so you've been in the gym moving weights more than most all women on the planet for x # of years. I'm not competent to speak to dosages but maybe some seasoned vets could check in with you around that. In other words if your only on 2.5mg/day, given your serious workout history maybe it's just like your an avg woman going into the gym after eating an extra banana for energy pre work out lol j/k with the exaggeration.

Also, do you have children? The reason I ask is due to the possibility of an overloaded schedule that could be draining energy and an adjustment might be worth considering.

I'm taking 10mg daily, and I've been training for just over two years. So I'm not as experienced as some, though I can guarantee I hit it harder than most. But I was thinking of upping my dose to 12.5mg after my third week if everything was still going well.

I don't have children, I'm only 22 but I work 6 days a week for 8 hours a day. So with only 1 full day off each week + the nature of my job + the grueling workouts I put myself through... I'm pretty exhausted all the time.

**amar306** · 09-23-2010, 11:35 AM

In other news I weighed myself yesterday and I'm up to 132.6lbs from 131.2lbs.

My weight fluctuates so much though we'll see if I can hang onto it!

**wakejunkie37** · 09-24-2010, 05:12 PM

Cant wait to see your results girl! Looks like you have a great base to start with!

**amar306** · 09-26-2010, 09:46 PM

Two weeks down! So far so good...acne is becoming more and more common than it used to be, and there's a definite increase in the libido.

One more week and I'll increase my dose, I'm really hoping to start seeing more physical changes soon! The increase in strength is nice and all but somehow I thought going on something like this I'd see some dramatic changes quickly like I've read in other people's logs. I guess everyone's different when it comes to this stuff :/

**ar-gun** · 09-28-2010, 01:56 AM

DO WORK GIRLLL! Respect for coming on here and telling like it is

**amar306** · 09-28-2010, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by ar-gun

DO WORK GIRLLL! Respect for coming on here and telling like it is

thanks!

I know we discussed earlier in this thread that 2-3 weeks is a good time period to wait before upping the dose if there aren't any side effects. Does anyone consider the acne a big enough of a side effect that I should wait until it passes before I increase the dose? Or is it subtle enough to just go ahead as planned?

**amar306** · 09-28-2010, 05:35 PM

Oh and I thought I'd go ahead and post my stats as far as weights I'm lifting, hopefully these will continue to increase:

Squat (to parallel): 165lbs x 6, (if I cheat and don't go to parallel I can do 185lbs)
Deadlift: 165lbs x 5
Shoulder Press: 75lbs x 6
Bicep Curl: 55lbs x 6

These last few weeks I've been trying to go mainly for strength, so I won't do more than 4-6 reps on a lot of things. So here's where I am after 2.5 weeks, I'll keep updating as these numbers go up!

**MACHINE5150** · 09-28-2010, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by some_gurl

id recommend taking a liver pill tho, as all orals have a more toxicity

this is wrong.. 17AA's are liver toxic.. Anavar is not a 17AA so you have nothing to worry about.. it is about as liver toxic as an antibiotic..

to quote:
Click Drug Name to View Profile: Anavar

**MACHINE5150** · 09-28-2010, 05:45 PM

to the OP.. u are gorgeous.. coming to Ireland any time soon? haha keep up the good work!!!

**amar306** · 09-28-2010, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by MACHINE5150

to the OP.. u are gorgeous.. coming to Ireland any time soon? haha keep up the good work!!!

Lol, thank you! Unfortunately I am not, though perhaps someday! Thank you for the advice I appreciate it! I've been taking a liver support since early in the cycle so hopefully I'm covered!

**MACHINE5150** · 09-28-2010, 06:04 PM

it can never hurt to take a bit of liver support.. they are relativeley cheap, and if you are anything like me (irish) u like to drink

so liver aids can never hurt..

**amar306** · 09-28-2010, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by MACHINE5150

it can never hurt to take a bit of liver support.. they are relativeley cheap, and if you are anything like me (irish) u like to drink

so liver aids can never hurt..

Actually I rarely ever drink, though I do have Irish blood in me! I'm going to play it safe while I'm on my cycle and stay away from alcohol, I want to be as kind to my liver as I can!

**Western Man** · 09-28-2010, 06:59 PM

Watch your cholesterol levels, triglycerides, estradiol

**wakejunkie37** · 09-29-2010, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by amar306

Two weeks down! So far so good...acne is becoming more and more common than it used to be, and there's a definite increase in the libido.

One more week and I'll increase my dose, I'm really hoping to start seeing more physical changes soon! The increase in strength is nice and all but somehow I thought going on something like this I'd see some dramatic changes quickly like I've read in other people's logs. I guess everyone's different when it comes to this stuff :/

Dont trip on it. By day 30 you will be noticing some nice changes.

**amar306** · 09-29-2010, 12:44 PM

That's good to hear! Thanks for the encouragement!

Its hard to tell, I feel like I do see some changes already but they're so subtle its hard to know for sure. I'm sure with time I'll see more!

**boundup** · 09-29-2010, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by amar306

That's good to hear! Thanks for the encouragement!

Its hard to tell, I feel like I do see some changes already but they're so subtle its hard to know for sure. I'm sure with time I'll see more!

How do you track your progress? For me I didn't feel stronger as I was just grabbing different weights. I know that sounds weird, but when I looked at my natty progression vs the Var, it was a remarkable difference. Same reps but weight increased by 5 pounds each week... sometimes more. When test was added in, it was a whole different game. But, I felt stronger with the test. That make sense?

**amar306** · 09-29-2010, 09:40 PM

Originally Posted by boundup

How do you track your progress? For me I didn't feel stronger as I was just grabbing different weights. I know that sounds weird, but when I looked at my natty progression vs the Var, it was a remarkable difference. Same reps but weight increased by 5 pounds each week... sometimes more. When test was added in, it was a whole different game. But, I felt stronger with the test. That make sense?

Yeah that definitely makes sense! I'm tracking my progress by my max lifts, so like in my earlier post I said how much weight I could use for major lifts. Each week I aim to beat those numbers by either adding more weight (5-10lbs) or increasing the reps. But as I've also said I'm going for strength here so if I can get more than 10 reps in its too light.

Funny thing happened today. One of my guy friends (who is one of the very few that knows I'm on this stuff) told me he noticed I was getting a little bigger which was awesome. Then later tonight one of my girl friends (who is not aware) asked me what was going on because it looks like i'm losing weight... Interestingly enough. I feel like perhaps I'm doing what everyone wishes they could, and gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time. So needless to say, I'm quite happy about that!

**boundup** · 09-29-2010, 10:42 PM

Originally Posted by amar306

Yeah that definitely makes sense! I'm tracking my progress by my max lifts, so like in my earlier post I said how much weight I could use for major lifts. Each week I aim to beat those numbers by either adding more weight (5-10lbs) or increasing the reps. But as I've also said I'm going for strength here so if I can get more than 10 reps in its too light.

Funny thing happened today. One of my guy friends (who is one of the very few that knows I'm on this stuff) told me he noticed I was getting a little bigger which was awesome. Then later tonight one of my girl friends (who is not aware) asked me what was going on because it looks like i'm losing weight... Interestingly enough. I feel like perhaps I'm doing what everyone wishes they could, and gaining muscle and losing fat at the same time. So needless to say, I'm quite happy about that!

That's awesome! From the looks of the pics/on cycle pic it should produce some really nice results for you. I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way, but it is interesting to see a girl on gear - most I know are hopelessly lost on the treadmill. I guess, I am just interested in that decision making process. For me, I never once did a drug, not even weed, spoke out against everything and never touched alcohol. 6 weeks ago, I was sticking a needle in my ass.

**amar306** · 09-29-2010, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by boundup

That's awesome! From the looks of the pics/on cycle pic it should produce some really nice results for you. I hope this doesn't come off the wrong way, but it is interesting to see a girl on gear - most I know are hopelessly lost on the treadmill. I guess, I am just interested in that decision making process. For me, I never once did a drug, not even weed, spoke out against everything and never touched alcohol. 6 weeks ago, I was sticking a needle in my ass.

I can totally relate! I've never smoked week, I drink once a month if that, i've never even tried a cigarette! But somehow I don't feel bad about using gear. I know I'm being smart with it, I'm not abusing it and I know its just going to make me stronger and bring me closer to my goals. So hooray for us odd ones!

oh and btw all the pics that are up here are pre-cycle...like a day in. I'll post some new pics soon to see if anyone can tell a difference!

**boundup** · 09-29-2010, 11:32 PM

Originally Posted by amar306

I can totally relate! I've never smoked week, I drink once a month if that, i've never even tried a cigarette! But somehow I don't feel bad about using gear. I know I'm being smart with it, I'm not abusing it and I know its just going to make me stronger and bring me closer to my goals. So hooray for us odd ones!

oh and btw all the pics that are up here are pre-cycle...like a day in. I'll post some new pics soon to see if anyone can tell a difference!

Hah, that is kind of strange. Guess that is the way it goes.

**amar306** · 09-29-2010, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by boundup

Hah, that is kind of strange. Guess that is the way it goes.

Kudos to you though, and everyone else on here that does, I don't know if I'd be able to stick a needle in me!

**MACHINE5150** · 10-01-2010, 05:55 AM

Originally Posted by amar306

I can totally relate! I've never smoked week, I drink once a month if that, i've never even tried a cigarette! But somehow I don't feel bad about using gear. I know I'm being smart with it, I'm not abusing it and I know its just going to make me stronger and bring me closer to my goals. So hooray for us odd ones!

Thats because steroids are good for you (in moderation).. Its like taking a multivitamin as far as i am concerned