Female's First Anavar Cycle

**amar306** · 10-01-2010, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by MACHINE5150

Thats because steroids are good for you (in moderation).. Its like taking a multivitamin as far as i am concerned

Have you seen the documentary Bigger Faster Stronger? If not I highly recommend it. It makes statements like why is alcohol or smoking legal when thousands of people can die from an excess, and there are MAYBE 3 people a year that die from steroids .

**bjpennnn** · 10-01-2010, 03:49 PM

wow great starting base impressive how tall are you?

**MACHINE5150** · 10-01-2010, 06:01 PM

Saw that Documentary.. it was good, i like how it didn't bash steroids it only talked about thier status in the modern day world.. Also.. i think it is more along the lines of MILLIONS of people that die every year from boos and tobaco..

You got any other pics then the one in your AVI??? I wanna make you my desktop background

**amar306** · 10-01-2010, 11:31 PM

Originally Posted by bjpennnn

wow great starting base impressive how tall are you?

Thank you! I'm 5'5", so not too tall not too short.

**amar306** · 10-01-2010, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by MACHINE5150

Saw that Documentary.. it was good, i like how it didn't bash steroids it only talked about thier status in the modern day world.. Also.. i think it is more along the lines of MILLIONS of people that die every year from boos and tobaco..

You got any other pics then the one in your AVI??? I wanna make you my desktop background

I totally agree. Love that film, so many good points are made.

LOL I'm flattered that you want me as your desktop background! And I'll be taking new pics in a day or two to show the three week mark! Hopefully there will be some changes that you all can see!

ALSO, to update the strength gains I increased my shoulder press from 75lbs for 5 reps to 80lbs for 4 reps. So my goal is to increase the weight by at least 5lbs each week.

AND....here's my weight progress thus far:

Starting week 1: 131.2lbs
Week 2: 132.6lbs
Week 3: 133.2lbs

So the weight is definitely going up, which is awesome! And even more awesome, people are telling me I'm looking thinner. So I'm gaining weight...but my waist is getting smaller...is there anything better than that? I think not.

**bjpennnn** · 10-02-2010, 04:33 AM

thats what anavar does ha. i saw incredible results with anavar on my waste line. keep up the good work.

**40plusnewbie** · 10-02-2010, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by amar306

Have you seen the documentary Bigger Faster Stronger? If not I highly recommend it. It makes statements like why is alcohol or smoking legal when thousands of people can die from an excess, and there are MAYBE 3 people a year that die from steroids.

You know, when the issue of steroids being made controlled substances in the USA went up before the Senate/House of Reps/dickheads the American Medical Association OPPOSED them being classified as controlled substances. This this the medical community, doctors, the upper echelon's of the medical profession and they OPPOSED them being made into controlled substances. (but the more laws that are on the books, the more taxes you can charge to enforce them, etc)

**40plusnewbie** · 10-02-2010, 11:33 AM

Originally Posted by amar306

ALSO, to update the strength gains I increased my shoulder press from 75lbs for 5 reps to 80lbs for 4 reps. So my goal is to increase the weight by at least 5lbs each week.

AND....here's my weight progress thus far:

Starting week 1: 131.2lbs
Week 2: 132.6lbs
Week 3: 133.2lbs

So the weight is definitely going up, which is awesome! And even more awesome, people are telling me I'm looking thinner. So I'm gaining weight...but my waist is getting smaller...is there anything better than that? I think not.

Your doing awesome amar, keep up the great work! The things you are talking about here are the reason I did my first cycle as a var cycle. It's also great to see women posting about working out with weights and using steroids responsibly, it's nice to have the female presence and female perspective on things. I hope more females join and start to get active at this site, I think it might help to lessen the stigma of females and weights (except to slightly tone up) is bad.

My sister works out with her husband. She is very tall and was very, very thin. Looking at her face I think people would wonder whether or not she was anorexic. But once me and her husband convinced her to just put on like 5-10lbs of muscle now anyone who looks at her (unless she's dressed in a parka) can immediately tell that she is fit, not anorexic as the muscle definition shows in her arms, shoulders, etc. She's not trying to get real big but it was that stigma that was holding her back and basically making her look anorexic/sick even though she ate decent (but too little).

So keep up the great work, your an inspiration to those women who will be here in the future reading your log and whatnot!

**amar306** · 10-02-2010, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by 40plusnewbie

Your doing awesome amar, keep up the great work! The things you are talking about here are the reason I did my first cycle as a var cycle. It's also great to see women posting about working out with weights and using steroids responsibly, it's nice to have the female presence and female perspective on things. I hope more females join and start to get active at this site, I think it might help to lessen the stigma of females and weights (except to slightly tone up) is bad.

My sister works out with her husband. She is very tall and was very, very thin. Looking at her face I think people would wonder whether or not she was anorexic. But once me and her husband convinced her to just put on like 5-10lbs of muscle now anyone who looks at her (unless she's dressed in a parka) can immediately tell that she is fit, not anorexic as the muscle definition shows in her arms, shoulders, etc. She's not trying to get real big but it was that stigma that was holding her back and basically making her look anorexic/sick even though she ate decent (but too little).

So keep up the great work, your an inspiration to those women who will be here in the future reading your log and whatnot!

Thank you! I hope whatever I post here will help future female members, I do realize that women like me aren't exactly common. That's actually how I got started on bodybuilding, I had a couple eating disorders and was very frail, skinny and sick. Now 33lbs heavier I've never looked back. I'm still new obviously, and this is only my first cycle, but considering how this first one is going I wouldn't be surprised if I continued with a second or even a third one later on.

On that note, does anyone have any suggestions on how long one should wait between cycles? I feel like I've read you should wait at least half the time that your cycle was. So if this cycle goes 10 weeks, then I should wait 5 weeks before starting another cycle right?

Also...it's day 21. So I'm upping the dosage by another 2.5mg, and I'll be taking photos tomorrow morning. So I'll post those ASAP and keep you all updated on how I feel!

**40plusnewbie** · 10-02-2010, 06:45 PM

I am an absolute novice with steroids (even though I am on a heavy duty cycle lol) but I think the advice is same time off as on. Someone else qualified should chime in shortly.

**amar306** · 10-05-2010, 04:26 PM

Sorry for not posting pics when I said I would, work has been crazy and i'm struggling to find the time to take them. But I promise I'll post as soon as I can!

In other news, I trained legs a couple days ago and I know I hit them hard enough because I still can barely walk! I did full squats on the smith machine this time because I wanted to go past parallel to really hit my glutes. I think out of everything I'm lagging the most in my hamstring development and glute development. My quads are way out of proportion so I'm really trying to hammer my hamstrings to bring them up to par. I'm thinking i'll go back to a leg split where one week I'll only hit my hams and glutes, then the next I'll hit both hams and quads, next week only hams and glutes, and so on... I'm also trying this experimental calve training split that's supposed to add an inch to your calves within one month. So i'll keep you all updated on that progress.

Today I trained arms, and I was blown away once again by my progress. Two weeks ago for bicep curls I lifted 55lbs x 3 on my own, with My oh sin's help I got two more reps in for 5 total. Last week I lowered the weight a little to 50lbs, and got 5 reps on my own.

Today I lifted 65lbs for 3 reps on my own. 10lb increase in two weeks....god I love this stuff!

I don't think I've gained much size in my arms, maybe 1/4 an inch. However with strength increases like this...it's hard to argue that this isn't working and working well. I'll be taking the next two days off, then I'll train back or shoulders depending on how I feel.

**Ishallnocheatmyself** · 10-05-2010, 05:55 PM

hun is that barbell or dumbell cause if its dumbell i quit. I can only curl 60s for bicep curlks and im around 90 pounds more than u

**amar306** · 10-05-2010, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Ishallnocheatmyself

hun is that barbell or dumbell cause if its dumbell i quit. I can only curl 60s for bicep curlks and im around 90 pounds more than u

LOL barbell...don't worry that'd be crazy!!

**My oh sin** · 10-06-2010, 12:14 AM

Amar306 failed to mention that she curled 60 lbs 8 times before doing the 65 lbs for 3 reps! She is starting to throw around heavier weight every week and making is look easy. I just hope she doesn't get stronger than me in the next few weeks!
Keep up the good work!

**40plusnewbie** · 10-07-2010, 11:16 PM

I love reading female logs and posts from females who work out with weights. It's inspiring to me, another area where there should be no stigma against females but there is a lot. So it's logs like this that are paving the way for woman's rights in a sort of way, acceptance of woman being body builders and everyone being cool with it and not looking down on it.

I'll admit that I do not find hugely muscular females attractive (even though I have a small statue of one I keep my necklaces and stuff around- that my wife HATES lol). I think it's really cool. I don't even know how it wound up in our house but I keep it right on my dresser.

And even though I don't find hugely muscular woman attractive (as in females who are jacking test and tren and who knows what else at high doses) I admire them for pursuing their individual ambitions.

Ironically, the gym i go to (lame planet fitness) the females who use the free weights and weight machines have better form than most of the men there. For real.

**amar306** · 10-07-2010, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by 40plusnewbie

I love reading female logs and posts from females who work out with weights. It's inspiring to me, another area where there should be no stigma against females but there is a lot. So it's logs like this that are paving the way for woman's rights in a sort of way, acceptance of woman being body builders and everyone being cool with it and not looking down on it.

I'll admit that I do not find hugely muscular females attractive (even though I have a small statue of one I keep my necklaces and stuff around- that my wife HATES lol). I think it's really cool. I don't even know how it wound up in our house but I keep it right on my dresser.

And even though I don't find hugely muscular woman attractive (as in females who are jacking test and tren and who knows what else at high doses) I admire them for pursuing their individual ambitions.

Ironically, the gym i go to (lame planet fitness) the females who use the free weights and weight machines have better form than most of the men there. For real.

Thank you! I appreciate all your kind words. I suppose I should have clarified my ultimate goal a little earlier though. Someday I'd love to take the Ms Olympia Figure title, so I'm not going for HUGE size. I won't ever take any Test, I don't want to risk losing my femininity or have any signs of virilisation.

I'll post pics tomorrow!

**40plusnewbie** · 10-08-2010, 03:48 AM

Originally Posted by amar306

Thank you! I appreciate all your kind words. I suppose I should have clarified my ultimate goal a little earlier though. Someday I'd love to take the Ms Olympia Figure title, so I'm not going for HUGE size. I won't ever take any Test, I don't want to risk losing my femininity or have any signs of virilisation.

I'll post pics tomorrow!

amar, I never assumed u were aiming to be huge (since ur just using a low dose of var) I was just making a general comment about 1 class of females who lift weights, the extreme end of huge. Heck, I don't even like the way the pro bb'ers look and my goal would never be to get that big, I def would not find myself attractive at 350lbs with 1% bf.

And I must admit, I'm lookin forward to seeing your new pics

Keep up the great work!

**amar306** · 10-08-2010, 11:43 PM

Okay well I wasn't able to take as many photos as I wanted, but I know I needed to take some to monitor the progress.

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**40plusnewbie** · 10-09-2010, 05:12 AM

Very nice! You can really see the difference in size and increased definition in forearms, tri's, and back in that first photo. And by looking at the 2nd photo, u def have NOT lost your femininity

Of course that's the first front pic I'm seeing so have no 'pre' photo to compare results thus far to but you are looking fine! Rockin a slim waist with great hips and what I would call a nice smooth lightly muscular but definitely feminine body from all around in the front. Looks like you would kill it in a dress with a very strong, appealing, yet feminine physique. Great work! Keep it up. Ain't var awseome

**amar306** · 10-10-2010, 08:43 PM

Back day today.

185lb deadlift x 2, up 20lbs from 2 weeks ago when I last did deadlifts.

**MACHINE5150** · 10-10-2010, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by amar306

Back day today.

185lb deadlift x 2, up 20lbs from 2 weeks ago when I last did deadlifts.

good work babe.. keep it up.. You can TOTALLY see the difference from your first pic to your updated one.. you should update your Avatar..

still waiting on a bikini pic so i can update my background

**Dan111** · 10-10-2010, 09:10 PM

Lots of desperate guys in this thread, lol

**MACHINE5150** · 10-10-2010, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Dan111

Lots of desperate guys in this thread, lol

Not desperate.. just flirtacious.. what do u expect from a guy who's on a gram of gear a week?

**Dan111** · 10-10-2010, 09:23 PM

haha, good point

**amar306** · 10-10-2010, 09:50 PM

Haha thanks guys, I'm flattered. But I think I may hold off on the bikini pics for a while, at least until I'm a little further into the cycle! I'll take your advice though and update my avatar!

It's crazy for me thinking about how much I pulled today. Deadlifts used to be one of if not the weakest of my lifts, I couldn't even do body weight I was barely pulling 115lbs pre cycle. Now after 4 weeks on Var...I've added 70lbs to the lift.

On another side note, today's had a little bit of a downside. I was of course quite happy with myself for pulling that much weight, but when I told the BF his response was basically..."well that's the drugs". Because its not as impressive now that I'm having "help"...I understand his frustration since he's been lifting for longer than me and has resisted the temptation to go this route for longer, I just can't allow myself to think that way. If I got to thinking how all this progress isn't really just because of all my hard work but because i'm "cheating"...it'd be really depressing.

I'm sure there are plenty of people on here that can sympathize with such thoughts/feelings.

**My oh sin** · 10-10-2010, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by amar306

Back day today.

185lb deadlift x 2, up 20lbs from 2 weeks ago when I last did deadlifts.

She is so nonchalant

The 185 lift was fun to watch. Amar's butt was shaking violently on that first rep (yes I was looking) then she got one of those 1000 yard stares going and pulled the second rep up through sheer force of will. I was gonna laugh but then I was just proud!

**Ishallnocheatmyself** · 10-11-2010, 08:56 PM

steroid .com's tankette nice progress on the weight (plz no passing me)

**40plusnewbie** · 10-12-2010, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by amar306

On another side note, today's had a little bit of a downside. I was of course quite happy with myself for pulling that much weight, but when I told the BF his response was basically..."well that's the drugs". Because its not as impressive now that I'm having "help"...I understand his frustration since he's been lifting for longer than me and has resisted the temptation to go this route for longer, I just can't allow myself to think that way. If I got to thinking how all this progress isn't really just because of all my hard work but because i'm "cheating"...it'd be really depressing.

I'm sure there are plenty of people on here that can sympathize with such thoughts/feelings.

Wait until he gets some ear infection that hurts like hell and won't go away and when he starts using ear drops and says his ear is feeling better tell him "that's the drugs" or if u met with him under circumstances where alcohol was involved (like he had a drink or 2) tell him "you wouldn't even be with me if it wasn't for the drugs because u wouldn't have had the balls to approach me" Or when he talks about gaining muscle mass tell him "that's the protein" lol

**amar306** · 10-12-2010, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by 40plusnewbie

Wait until he gets some ear infection that hurts like hell and won't go away and when he starts using ear drops and says his ear is feeling better tell him "that's the drugs" or if u met with him under circumstances where alcohol was involved (like he had a drink or 2) tell him "you wouldn't even be with me if it wasn't for the drugs because u wouldn't have had the balls to approach me" Or when he talks about gaining muscle mass tell him "that's the protein" lol

LOL nice...good point! I like that last one, if you hadn't had all those carbs and proteins you wouldn't even have those muscles!

**40plusnewbie** · 10-12-2010, 02:05 PM

It makes no sense to me why people look down on other people for using substances to enhance their self-esteem, body image, personal health goals, etc.

I think it's not cool that your bf is knocking u for ur choice. Anavar is an aid just like a whey protein shake is an aid, or proper lifting techniques. Is he gonna give some 300lb. lady shit because she starts taking weight loss drugs so she doesn't drop dead of a heart attack???

My wife was very against me using steroids , but it was because she considered them 'drugs' and is against all drugs. Once I educated her on the minimal risks, and potentially great benefits she has no issue with it now. She likes the improvements in my body and she sure isn't complaining against my 43yo ass getting ramped up on test and wanting to go at it 24/7 like a high school kid.

**WastedTalent09** · 10-12-2010, 04:48 PM

Hey Amar306, great to read your progress, as I am also thinking of starting a var cycle. only thing ive ever taken was a test booster any idiot could get their hands on at any GNC. I had AWESOME results on it (ppl @ gym accusing me of being ON...when i wasnt) so that being said, I respond to supps quite well, so I'm wanting to try something REAL like var. And we seem to have the same body type (by looking at your pix). So i was just wondering where you are getting yours, cuz just like you, I am new at this portion of the lifestyle and am worried im going to be suckered into a fake. So just wondering if you got it online or from someone. I just moved to Phoenix so i dont know anyone here to even ask haha. Also to comment on you being suprised by your time of the month, be ready for it to be up and down... Ive been taking that test booster for a long time and intensely training 10+years and competing for 3, so sometimes u can get it twice in a month or not at all, ahhh lovely hormones.... haha. Good luck with your progress!

My stats-
female
26, 5'7" 140lbs
18%bf
i am also a trainer

goals-
like yours, gain as much size as i can!

**WastedTalent09** · 10-12-2010, 04:56 PM

PS- just read bf is claiming it's "cheating". Yes i can sympathize with you! my bf is against my idea to try a cycle as well. Making me feel guilty for wanting to. He claims he doesnt want my face looking like a man! UGH. whatever, not like im looking to do straight test! jeez.

**40plusnewbie** · 10-12-2010, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by WastedTalent09

PS- just read bf is claiming it's "cheating". Yes i can sympathize with you! my bf is against my idea to try a cycle as well. Making me feel guilty for wanting to. He claims he doesnt want my face looking like a man! UGH. whatever, not like im looking to do straight test! jeez.

U both have jealous bf's IMHO lol Keep up the good work ladies! And tell them about the sides females get from var, that should quiet their horny asses for a while.

**amar306** · 10-12-2010, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by WastedTalent09

Hey Amar306, great to read your progress, as I am also thinking of starting a var cycle. only thing ive ever taken was a test booster any idiot could get their hands on at any GNC. I had AWESOME results on it (ppl @ gym accusing me of being ON...when i wasnt) so that being said, I respond to supps quite well, so I'm wanting to try something REAL like var. And we seem to have the same body type (by looking at your pix). So i was just wondering where you are getting yours, cuz just like you, I am new at this portion of the lifestyle and am worried im going to be suckered into a fake. So just wondering if you got it online or from someone. I just moved to Phoenix so i dont know anyone here to even ask haha. Also to comment on you being suprised by your time of the month, be ready for it to be up and down... Ive been taking that test booster for a long time and intensely training 10+years and competing for 3, so sometimes u can get it twice in a month or not at all, ahhh lovely hormones.... haha. Good luck with your progress!

My stats-
female
26, 5'7" 140lbs
18%bf
i am also a trainer

goals-
like yours, gain as much size as i can!

Hey! Well if you've been training for that long then yeah definitely you need to try the real stuff! It's amazing how fast your numbers will go up, as you've probably seen I'm averaging increasing weights lifted by 5-10lbs each week! As far as where I got stuff, I got mine from a member of one of the gyms I go to, and it took a while because I had to build a certain level of trust before I could come right out and ask for the help. My suggestion to you is to do the same, females especially can't hide it when they've used gear (my source has used Var, Primo, and others). So if you can find someone you can trust and they trust you, you know they'll give you good stuff because they use it too.

I wish I could help you out more, but I'm quite new myself and have yet to establish a solid online source. So I guess that's my advice...as I'm sure you've read fake gear will seriously f*ck up the female body so dont take any chances! I had to overcome my own impatience to be safe, so trust me I know how hard it can be to resist when you're given the opportunity with sources you aren't 100% sure of.

And just curious...what did you use from GNC? I've tried legal test boosters before and they SERIOUSLY messed me up hormonally. It was like SUPER PMS for like a week straight (and it wasn't that time), I was really emotional, really depressed, almost wanted to stop lifting because I hated how I looked. So...needless to say I'm hesitant to ever go that route again! :/

**amar306** · 10-12-2010, 11:57 PM

Leg day today. I don't normally do my two largest lifts (deadlifts and squats) so close to each other but this week my work schedule requires it.

My oh sin unfortunately wasn't able to help me out today, so I was a little hesitant to go too heavy without my partner there to help if I needed to bail. But I was determined to hit another PR (personal record), and so I did.

So my squat went up another 10lbs, from 175lbs to 185lbs x 2. I can technically squat more, but I decided unless I can complete at least 1 rep with perfect form then I shouldn't lift that weight. So I've been working my way up, as soon as I can do 5 perfect reps with legs parallel at 185lbs I'll increase the weight.

It was funny, a couple of pro football players were training near me and one offered his weight belt to me for the squats. I tried it on but unfortunately it was way too big! I hadn't even considered using a weight belt before. I always laugh at the skinny kids wearing weight belts that can't be more than 150lbs...because not only are the weights they're using so small that I could use them, but they have some kind of bad ass attitude along with them.

**Far from massive** · 10-13-2010, 10:11 AM

amar 306,

Just stumbled onto this thread and I must say its been inspirational. Your physiques is excellent and I am sure with your dedication to workout and diet your gains will be everything you seek. Its gotta be tuff to do training 8 hrs a day and remain focused on your own goals ( not to mention trying to keep up with wieght gains) One thing you mentioned is the cloudy head feeling which makes me curious could the Var be causing a drop in cognition due to a drop in other hormones that could be addressed with DHEA? I know absolutely nothing about female AAS usage so this is stricly a question for those who do.

Keep up the good work and I wish you all the success in the world in meeting your goals.

**amar306** · 10-13-2010, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Far from massive

One thing you mentioned is the cloudy head feeling which makes me curious could the Var be causing a drop in cognition due to a drop in other hormones that could be addressed with DHEA? I know absolutely nothing about female AAS usage so this is stricly a question for those who do.

Keep up the good work and I wish you all the success in the world in meeting your goals.

Thank you! This is really interesting, I'd love to hear what others think about this. It would be nice if I could somehow overcome that!

**40plusnewbie** · 10-13-2010, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by amar306

Thank you! This is really interesting, I'd love to hear what others think about this. It would be nice if I could somehow overcome that!

U might want to post this question in the AS Q&A forum or possibly the injuries and rehab forum if u get no insight in the 1st one, a lot more ppl will see it there.

**WastedTalent09** · 10-13-2010, 04:40 PM

Yeah i know it boils down to who ya know when looking to get it...and damnit i shouldnt have moved!!! it was ALL around me at my old gym (even in my own blood family), i worked there, ran that place and all the meatheads were my close friends (still are, but @ 2,000 miles away) but i never took advantage of it and didnt take anything. i moved to az to get more into BBing and dude, let me tell you the Gold's out here BLOWS. Everyone is a poser! Too commercialized and yuppy, unlike the musclehead gym im used to. I used to get respect, now dudes who weigh the same as me are like, walking infront of me, cutting me off and stealing my machine or standing directly in front of me at the mirror during my set. It's so ridiculous. Sorry didnt mean to complain, but that's what im up against cuz these are the only type of people here & it's getting in my way of MY physique, cuz i have no one to ask. so now im kicking myself, cuz i did not that long ago. Sorry for blabbering, it's just im the only one of my kind here LOL! I only have 2 girl friends that also compete and well, theyre not the greatest of friends. Its just nice to talk to another chick who knows where im coming from! Thanks for replying by the way!

**amar306** · 10-13-2010, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by WastedTalent09

Yeah i know it boils down to who ya know when looking to get it...and damnit i shouldnt have moved!!! it was ALL around me at my old gym (even in my own blood family), i worked there, ran that place and all the meatheads were my close friends (still are, but @ 2,000 miles away) but i never took advantage of it and didnt take anything. i moved to az to get more into BBing and dude, let me tell you the Gold's out here BLOWS. Everyone is a poser! Too commercialized and yuppy, unlike the musclehead gym im used to. I used to get respect, now dudes who weigh the same as me are like, walking infront of me, cutting me off and stealing my machine or standing directly in front of me at the mirror during my set. It's so ridiculous. Sorry didnt mean to complain, but that's what im up against cuz these are the only type of people here & it's getting in my way of MY physique, cuz i have no one to ask. so now im kicking myself, cuz i did not that long ago. Sorry for blabbering, it's just im the only one of my kind here LOL! I only have 2 girl friends that also compete and well, theyre not the greatest of friends. Its just nice to talk to another chick who knows where im coming from! Thanks for replying by the way!

Haha no no, trust me its SOOO refreshing to talk to another woman about this stuff. That sucks about your new gym, I know what you mean about what a bumper commercial gyms are to "meathead" gyms as you put it! I work in a commercial and I can't stand the lack of enthusiasm in there, I try my best to get people in there pumped up! But on my day off I'll go to MY gym...practically everyone there is on the juice. But please don't think you're ranting, I've enjoyed it!

And just hang in there, I'm sure you'll be able to find a source. Just be picky and patient...