Female's First Anavar Cycle

**40plusnewbie** · 10-14-2010, 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by WastedTalent09

Yeah i know it boils down to who ya know when looking to get it...and damnit i shouldnt have moved!!! it was ALL around me

Sometimes a boatload of sources get dropped on u from out of nowhere over internet communications and whatnot, eventually u will find ur way. When you do make sure to enjoy ur ride. Just remember, this isn't a source board so talking about sources, asking for sources, etc in the open public forums here isn't allowed.

**amar306** · 10-14-2010, 11:21 AM

So people at work are starting to notice.

I had a couple of the people I work with comment on how I'm really bulking up, they said I was looking good.

As of this morning I'm 134.8lbs, this is officially the most I've ever weighed in my life! But I also think this is the best I've looked in my life...I think I'm about half way through my cycle by the end of this week, so I'm shooting for 140lbs by the end. I'll try to post some pics tomorrow or next week, depending on how much time I have!

**Aquinas** · 10-14-2010, 03:17 PM

Wow, you're making really good progress! Thanks for posting about your experience

. I'm thinking of doing the same cycle as you but I'll probably wait a while longer yet.

**amar306** · 10-15-2010, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by Aquinas;53***04

Wow, you're making really good progress! Thanks for posting about your experience

. I'm thinking of doing the same cycle as you but I'll probably wait a while longer yet.

Thank you! And you're welcome!

I'm really surprised but happy that this thread has been helpful to so many people.

I trained biceps and triceps today, and being consistent with my goals I added an extra 5lbs to the weight I lifted. So I curled 70lbs today...BARBELL to clarify! I was able to get 2 solid reps in on my own, 3 more with My oh sin's help. I should also clarify and stress that I make sure my form is perfect. I don't tolerate cheating by using momentum or breaking form with my clients, I won't tolerate it with myself. So, bicep curl shoulders are back, elbows are tight to my waist and they don't move. This goes not only with just bicep curls, if I can't lift a weight with perfect form I shouldn't be lifting it. I think I mentioned this earlier with my squats...sorry if I'm repeating myself.

So far I've felt fine after the increased dose. The only thing that's annoying is there's definitely an increase in acne.

Hopefully it'll tone down in a few days.

To shift the subject, I've been thinking about something and curious on people's opinions.
What do you think about people who are very CLEARLY on gear (because their form sucks, their work ethic in the gym is pathetic, they aren't that strong, but they're much bigger than some naturals I know who have been training the same period of time) yet they say they've never used anything. They blow it off like there's no way they'd do that, or they say that wish they could get their hands on some gear and laugh it off.

Personally...it drives me nuts. I mean I know most people who do use gear aren't going to come right out and admit to everyone that yes they've used, hey I'm even keeping it a well hidden secret from all but two people that know me. Just curious on other people's thoughts on this.

**40plusnewbie** · 10-15-2010, 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by amar306

I trained biceps and triceps today, and being consistent with my goals I added an extra 5lbs to the weight I lifted. So I curled 70lbs today...BARBELL to clarify! I was able to get 2 solid reps in on my own, 3 more with My oh sin's help. I should also clarify and stress that I make sure my form is perfect. I don't tolerate cheating by using momentum or breaking form with my clients, I won't tolerate it with myself. So, bicep curl shoulders are back, elbows are tight to my waist and they don't move. This goes not only with just bicep curls, if I can't lift a weight with perfect form I shouldn't be lifting it. I think I mentioned this earlier with my squats...sorry if I'm repeating myself.

So far I've felt fine after the increased dose. The only thing that's annoying is there's definitely an increase in acne.

Hopefully it'll tone down in a few days.

To shift the subject, I've been thinking about something and curious on people's opinions.
What do you think about people who are very CLEARLY on gear (because their form sucks, their work ethic in the gym is pathetic, they aren't that strong, but they're much bigger than some naturals I know who have been training the same period of time) yet they say they've never used anything. They blow it off like there's no way they'd do that, or they say that wish they could get their hands on some gear and laugh it off.

Personally...it drives me nuts. I mean I know most people who do use gear aren't going to come right out and admit to everyone that yes they've used, hey I'm even keeping it a well hidden secret from all but two people that know me. Just curious on other people's thoughts on this.

Congrat's on pushin urself to up the weights, that's the way to do it girl!

re: ppl on gear with poor form, work ethic in gym pathetic.....

The work ethic in the gym being pathetic annoys me like it does the little muscle boys w/ sleeveless shirts who spend 2min doing a set that doesn't strain them then the following 10 min "walking the runway" around the gym lol..... On the catwalk, on the catwalk... I do my little turns on the catwalk"

**amar306** · 10-19-2010, 12:44 PM

Okay so I have a confession to make.

As of the last few weeks I've slipped from my diet (I've kept key parts like the greens and red meat with rice) but I've also added in high calorie bits like....bagels lol. I'll eat up to 3 each night in one sitting! That's 270 cal x 3 = 810 calories! And I've also been having a lot of chipotle...they make it so easy to get my daily red meat in, and that's 730 calories in one meal alone. I just wasn't gaining weight! In fact I kept losing weight in the first few weeks because I couldn't find the time to get in all those meals. My job keeps me on my feet all day like I've said, so I needed more calories.

I feel guilty about it because I'm honestly not watching what I'm eating anymore, and when I say that I mean I'm not counting calories at all. I just eat till I'm satisfied, and I'm a black hole so I can just keep packing it away. I guess thats one side effect I can rule out, lack of appetite!

I weigh myself once a week since I know how much one's weight can fluctuate throughout the day and depending on how much glycogen we have stored. For the past week I've been sitting at 134.8lbs. So I've been eating my heart out and maintaining. :P All of my clothes are starting to be uncomfortably tight on me, like through my arms, back and legs. I'm not sure how I'm going to do it once I hit my goal weight of 140lbs!

**40plusnewbie** · 10-19-2010, 04:27 PM

Glad ur spittin out the slips with the diet. I had major slips during my first cycle and by posting honestly about it I feel as though it contributed to my longer term stability in maintaining a clean diet. Something that I like to keep in mind that helps me with struggles I encounter on my journey to build the body I want is that I am not competing against anyone but myself. I'm still new to training and steroids but this helps keep my focus. I get a lot of criticisms because I'm running a somewhat heavy cycle for someone new to steroids, and I realize I won't maximize the benefits of running everything I am the way someone with several years of experience would, nevertheless it is my body and my choice. I'm not a reckless teenager, have done a risk/reward comparison and the cycle is working well for me. So I'm not struggling with diet, I'm struggling with strangers who are no part of my life criticizing me. So I just keep in mind that I'm only competing with myself and find it quite helpful.

BTW amar, have you investigated the recommended cycle length for females with anavar . I know for males, who run high doses, people recommend like 6-8 weeks due to the impact it can have on your lipid profile, bp, and to a lesser extent ur liver (although at high doses I'd imagine the impact is greater). I'm just wondering because anavar is one of those steroids that have been used and studied fairly extensively in treating burn victims, kids with growth problems, aids wasting patients, etc and I'm curious about the potential difference in a female running 10-15mg/day vs. a male running 80mg or so a day.

Does anyone else know the answer to this? How safe is it for a full grown woman to run a standard low dose of var? I haven't read the studies done on kids and aids patients but I would imagine that they stayed on for more than 2 months. I'm wondering if there is increased risk at that low dosage as there is at a high dose many males run it at.

**amar306** · 10-19-2010, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by 40plusnewbie

BTW amar, have you investigated the recommended cycle length for females with anavar . I know for males, who run high doses, people recommend like 6-8 weeks due to the impact it can have on your lipid profile, bp, and to a lesser extent ur liver (although at high doses I'd imagine the impact is greater). I'm just wondering because anavar is one of those steroids that have been used and studied fairly extensively in treating burn victims, kids with growth problems, aids wasting patients, etc and I'm curious about the potential difference in a female running 10-15mg/day vs. a male running 80mg or so a day.

Does anyone else know the answer to this? How safe is it for a full grown woman to run a standard low dose of var? I haven't read the studies done on kids and aids patients but I would imagine that they stayed on for more than 2 months. I'm wondering if there is increased risk at that low dosage as there is at a high dose many males run it at.

I've been curious about this as well. How I've been figuring it is that I'm about half way through my cycle, and eventually end with taking 17.5mg daily. I know I know it's probably a little high for a first cycle...but if I'm waiting 2-3 weeks before increasing the dose and not experiencing any sides, I don't see the problem. Perhaps someone can point it out to me? Again I'm trying to put on as much muscle as possible (and my goal was/is to gain 10lbs and I've gained just under 5lbs now) so I'm not afraid of getting too big.

I've also been curious about what will happen once I stop. I apologize if these are questions that have been answered already in other forums, I've tried searching for these answers but they all seem to apply to men not women and I assume it'll be different. I'm just wondering if I'll be able to keep most of if not all my gains, I'm realizing now how very devastating it would/will be to not be as strong after the cycle. So here's my plan for the remainder of the cycle, please anyone help me out and chime in if you see an issue with this.

I started with 100 10mg tablets, and I plan on using them all in this first cycle. My progression will be as follows:
Weeks 1-3 = 10mg
Weeks 4-6 = 12.5mg
Weeks 6-8 = 15mg
Weeks 8-10 = 17.5mg

Assuming by the end I will have reached 140lbs, I'll try to maintain this body weight as well as the weights I'm lifting. I've been taking a liver support this entire time, any suggestions on what I should take after? Once I've waited the appropriate time between cycles, (10-15 weeks?) then I'll start another cycle with a goal to cut back down to 130lbs, maybe 125lbs.

Any suggestions/concerns about this plan please let me know! They'll be very appreciated!

**stripling** · 10-27-2010, 07:43 PM

i dunno, that's odd! i'm on 40mg/day and totally jealous that women can get away with 10-15mg/day! my healing is so fast it's shocking me... but it took THREE WEEKS before it kicked in! the first 2 weeks were painful, now i can't seem to blow myself out.

i started my var cycle when you did, on 9/13 or so. if you don't feel it i'd be wondering if your var is real.

are you sure your var is genuine, real, hight quality stuff?

**amar306** · 10-29-2010, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by stripling

i dunno, that's odd! i'm on 40mg/day and totally jealous that women can get away with 10-15mg/day! my healing is so fast it's shocking me... but it took THREE WEEKS before it kicked in! the first 2 weeks were painful, now i can't seem to blow myself out.

i started my var cycle when you did, on 9/13 or so. if you don't feel it i'd be wondering if your var is real.

are you sure your var is genuine, real, hight quality stuff?

No i'm sure it's real, my strength has increased significantly since starting about 6 weeks ago. For example I've increased my deadlift by almost 100lbs, from barely being able to lift 115lbs to lifting 205lbs twice this last week. I trust my source too, they said it isn't the best stuff they've used but they still got good gains from it.

I definitely can feel it too because I feel fatigued most of the time, which I've heard can be related to poor liver function. I have been taking a liver support but perhaps its not enough because i've been dragging ass for a while now.

**amar306** · 11-02-2010, 11:07 PM

Well i think I've hit a wall.

I've been 135lbs for about 3 weeks now, and I only have about 2 weeks left of my cycle. I didn't make it up to 140, which as of now I'm actually happy about. I've definitely gotten fatter, and I REALLY want to lose some weight but I know right after a cycle is not the time to diet. I figured since I still have about 15 days left I'll just start adding cardio back into my routine, hopefully that'll make me feel a little better....Ugh the ED is starting to talk again which isn't good.

In my desperation to cut though it got me thinking, I know you need to wait time and a half so that'll be about 15 weeks for me before starting a second cycle of anavar . But how long does one need to wait before starting another cycle of a different compound? Like if I wanted to do a cycle of Clen 3-4 weeks after getting off of this first cycle of anavar. Is that too soon? Any thoughts on this?

**SergeantCarbs** · 11-03-2010, 05:42 AM

Hi Amar,

Were you tracking your measurements throughout the cycle, specially the last few weeks where your weight hasnt changed?

I'm on week 5 of a anavar & test cycle while dieting now and my total weight hasnt changed more then +/- 0.5 lbs overall in the last 4 weeks but I'm losing about a 1/2" per week from my waist (which normally would take me about 2 lbs of fat loss to equal). To me that shows the best of both worlds, I'm burning fat while gaining in lbm.

As to another cycle, I think that will depend on which compound(s) you are talking about. I think taking clen is fine. However I'm not sure why so many seem to think this helps with fat loss. At least in my own personal experience, I've not seen any increased fat loss when clen cycling. I did however see better anti-catabolic / slightly anabolic results when using it but it was so nominal that I dont think it was worth the side effects (shaking, lack of sleep, muscle cramping)

**BJJ** · 11-03-2010, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by amar306

Well i think I've hit a wall.

I've been 135lbs for about 3 weeks now, and I only have about 2 weeks left of my cycle. I didn't make it up to 140, which as of now I'm actually happy about. I've definitely gotten fatter, and I REALLY want to lose some weight but I know right after a cycle is not the time to diet. I figured since I still have about 15 days left I'll just start adding cardio back into my routine, hopefully that'll make me feel a little better....Ugh the ED is starting to talk again which isn't good.

In my desperation to cut though it got me thinking, I know you need to wait time and a half so that'll be about 15 weeks for me before starting a second cycle of anavar. But how long does one need to wait before starting another cycle of a different compound? Like if I wanted to do a cycle of Clen 3-4 weeks after getting off of this first cycle of anavar. Is that too soon? Any thoughts on this?

Clen is a waste of time and money, IMHO.
If I were you I would use EPH 2 weeks on and 1 off for a month.

**amar306** · 11-03-2010, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by SergeantCarbs

Hi Amar,

Were you tracking your measurements throughout the cycle, specially the last few weeks where your weight hasnt changed?

I'm on week 5 of a anavar & test cycle while dieting now and my total weight hasnt changed more then +/- 0.5 lbs overall in the last 4 weeks but I'm losing about a 1/2" per week from my waist (which normally would take me about 2 lbs of fat loss to equal). To me that shows the best of both worlds, I'm burning fat while gaining in lbm.

As to another cycle, I think that will depend on which compound(s) you are talking about. I think taking clen is fine. However I'm not sure why so many seem to think this helps with fat loss. At least in my own personal experience, I've not seen any increased fat loss when clen cycling. I did however see better anti-catabolic / slightly anabolic results when using it but it was so nominal that I dont think it was worth the side effects (shaking, lack of sleep, muscle cramping)

I haven't been tracking my measurements really, I've mainly been going off of strength gains. So I was just making sure that I was continually lifting more weight each week to make sure I was making progress.

I think perhaps I'm just a little disappointed in my results from a physical standpoint, my strength gains have been amazing but I was hoping for more of a physical transformation which I don't believe has happened. But perhaps I'm just unhappy with these results because I have been eating a surplus to try to recover faster and give my body plenty to work with, and I over did it leading to more fat gain than I wanted.

And test sounds fun...I'm sure I'd see some results I'd be happy with if I went that path but I have a limit to how far I'll go with gear, and Im pretty sure that's it.

**amar306** · 11-03-2010, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by BJJ

Clen is a waste of time and money, IMHO.
If I were you I would use EPH 2 weeks on and 1 off for a month.

How soon after a cycle would it be safe to take this?

**BJJ** · 11-03-2010, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by amar306

How soon after a cycle would it be safe to take this?

Considering you took only oxa, you may start the day after.

**WastedTalent09** · 11-04-2010, 01:53 AM

HEY! I tried to hit ya back but it didnt work. Also emailed you back, let me know if it went through!

**amar306** · 11-07-2010, 07:44 PM

Alright.

So after speaking to my source, who I also consider to be a mentor when it comes to this, they were very surprised that I only gained 4lbs. So I guess in the end I should have increased the dosage to see more results.

I'm going to attempt to wrap up this thread for now, with my cycle finally coming to a close. I'll be taking some time off for a while obviously but I've done my research and I have my next two cycles all planned out. In a month or so after I've had plenty of extra calories to hang onto the muscle gained I'm going to start a cutting stack of Clen and T3. I'll probably keep it short...6-8 weeks tops. (T3 will be no more than 6 of course) The second cycle I'll begin in February, and I'll be taking Primo for a second bulking phase. Needless to say I'm excited for them both!

I'll continue to check this thread for the next few weeks, after that anyone that has any questions about my experiences just send me a PM and I'll be happy to share with you. Thanks to all of you who followed along in this log and gave me advice along the way! Keep a look out for my next log: "Female's First Cutting Cycle"!

**amar306** · 11-11-2010, 05:34 PM

Oh yikes. Just wanted to drop in here an add a quick update, today is the second to last day of my cycle but it will probably be my last because I woke up today with an unwelcome surprise.

I have caught a cold, but I noticed my throat feeling especially...sore...or swollen. As in my vocal chords thickening. Not cool, not good at all. So I'm officially stopping my dosage today, out of all the sides that can come with AAS usage my voice changing is not something I'm willing to tolerate.

**junior21804** · 11-17-2010, 06:07 PM

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**SlimmerMe** · 11-17-2010, 06:34 PM

^^^NO SOURCE TALKS HERE!!! Better run along....

**xfitgirl** · 08-18-2013, 09:48 AM

Hey guys I need some advice. I am currently on day 15 of my first anvar cycle. I am taking 12.5 mg /day and working out 6 days a week. I am seeing no results and hardly feelings anything. I can't think of anything that would be inhibiting the effects except for my birth control. I have an implanon (tube in my arm) and therefore cannot temporarily stop my hormones. Any suggestions/advice? Should I try increasing my dosage? Or taking a dose 2x/day? Any thoughts would be extremely helpful! Thank you in advance!!

**ScaryMissMary** · 05-31-2014, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by xfitgirl

Hey guys I need some advice. I am currently on day 15 of my first anvar cycle. I am taking 12.5 mg /day and working out 6 days a week. I am seeing no results and hardly feelings anything. I can't think of anything that would be inhibiting the effects except for my birth control. I have an implanon (tube in my arm) and therefore cannot temporarily stop my hormones. Any suggestions/advice? Should I try increasing my dosage? Or taking a dose 2x/day? Any thoughts would be extremely helpful! Thank you in advance!!

I see this message is a little old at this point now, but I was wondering how Anavar /Implanon turned out for you. I too am on Implanon and was thinking of starting an Anavar cycle. I have 2 years of my Implanon left so getting it out isn't an option yet.