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    Quote Originally Posted by samson_420
    Here are my current pics, seem kinda the same to me. But, I weigh so much more and my measurements are quite a bit higher. . . Word

    Funny thing is I always wanted to get where I am now. Actually where I'm at now is even better than I ever wished for really.

    But, now I'm like this isn't big enough.

    How much do I have to grow to consider myself big? Oh wells

    <img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=121958"/><img src="http://forums.steroid.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=121959"/>
    I'd say you have Big-orexia, welcome aboard

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    Quote Originally Posted by dooie

    I'd say you have Big-orexia, welcome aboard
    Ps I don't know what your talking about, your, shoulders, chest and traps have gained size and you have lost bf! Killing it

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    Quote Originally Posted by dooie View Post
    I'd say you have Big-orexia

    I dunno, most guys I see either at the gym or on here make me feel small.

    But at the same time I think it's in my head.

    Either way I must get bigger. Lol

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    Keep it going bro .

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    Quote Originally Posted by samson_420 View Post
    How much do I have to grow to consider myself big? Oh wells
    Until we say "Dude, you're getting too big!"

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    Keep posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BokBok View Post
    Until we say "Dude, you're getting too big!"

    LMAO


    I wish, I am. . . I'm eating all day and feel sore as hell. I'm killing it in the gym, might as well make the most of it while I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samson_420 View Post
    I dunno, most guys I see either at the gym or on here make me feel small.

    But at the same time I think it's in my head.

    Either way I must get bigger. Lol
    Heh, I'm exactly the same. But I can tell you it's in your head man They look at you & think the same thing. A lot of it's just an illusion, some dudes look really big, but then I see there legs & I'm like LMAO!

    You've definitely increase in size there, I'm with dooie. Keep pushing bro & focus on your goal, not all the BS inbetween.

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    Shit, thanks yo. I just always said I don't want to get crazy big. But, where is the line?

    200lbs & under 10bf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by samson_420 View Post
    Shit, thanks yo. I just always said I don't want to get crazy big. But, where is the line?

    200lbs & under 10bf?
    There is no line, think about what you want exactly, set your goals & then go get it tiger!

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    Hard to set goals, since I meet em'. Then want more, ehhh. Gives me something to do, I just don't want to cycle again too soon.

    It's pricey and can't be too good for long term health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by samson_420 View Post
    ... can't be too good for long term health.
    I used to think that too, but reading here has changed that. I think there are lots of guys here who cycle intelligently, do good and proper PCT, and are patient with themselves. Follow what's known here and one can do it for many years with few real drawbacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oatmeal69 View Post
    I used to think that too, but reading here has changed that. I think there are lots of guys here who cycle intelligently, do good and proper PCT, and are patient with themselves. Follow what's known here and one can do it for many years with few real drawbacks.

    Possibly, I am going to take it one cycle at a time.


    From what I have seen, the sides could be very random. I.E. not come up in a cycle or two, then you start sprouting up bitch tits.

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    The sides aren't random if they are predictable. Gyno for example is a known side and risk. The prevention and / or treatment for it is also a known quantity

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    gains are looking good bro! Only critique would be to concentrate on your shoulders because in your last pics it looked like your arms were bigger than your shoulders... possibly a bad angle but keep up the good work bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mg2336 View Post
    gains are looking good bro! Only critique would be to concentrate on your shoulders because in your last pics it looked like your arms were bigger than your shoulders... possibly a bad angle but keep up the good work bro!
    Totally agree, my shoulders aren't great. My concentration now is back and arms, then shoulders and chest. My back is horrible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samson_420

    Totally agree, my shoulders aren't great. My concentration now is back and arms, then shoulders and chest. My back is horrible.
    Don't concentrate on one muscle group! Do everything equally! Ur arms get worked nearly every time you go to the gym, concentrate on the muscle, by mind muscle connection and going heavier or more sets (for that workout)

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    Nice log bro! Keep up the good work

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    Day 28

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    Another shot today. All is still well. I'm almost done with the 1st vial as of today.

    I feel like I'm just plain out growing, putting on fat too. I don't mind too much, I don't mind growing fat as long as its at least half muscle along with it. I lose fat pretty damn fast.

    My lifts are nuts, I'm trying not to go to crazy. I don't want to tear anything.


    My arms are right at 17". That's over a inch in exactly a month(I started at 15.75). This is about a hour after workout, so not cold.

    Waist is right at 36" that's about 2-3" more than what I started with.
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    Day 31


    Weighing in @ 208 Lbs. flat.

    Watching my joints and tendants, my lifts are just going up faster than my body can keep up, sort of. I just feel like my muscle can push more than my body can. I suppose that is why all the vets say to be at max natty potential before starting AAS. Of course which I was not.

    It's all good, I know my limits.

    Checked my BF% yesterday and I was still under 19%(18.4).

    I seem to be less bloated at times, but I eat so much and I do still get bloat.


    Going damn decent so far.

    First 10ml vial is gone and the last injection was 1/10th underdosed since I did not want to pop the new vial.


    I'm considering upping the dose to 600mg and grabbing another vial for the last two weeks to do a full 12.

    We'll see.

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    Day #35

    Weighing in at 211 Lbs.

    Took all my measurements and I seem to have gained about a inch everywhere. Still @ 36" around my waist, right under 17" on bi's, calves & neck.


    So far I have gained just around 25 Lbs. I know a bit of this is water and fat since my diet is aight but not as clean as it can be.

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    Sounds like your definitely growing and feeling good, I'm in week 4 of Test-E only at 750mg a week and feeling good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironbeck View Post
    Sounds like your definitely growing and feeling good, I'm in week 4 of Test-E only at 750mg a week and feeling good.
    Only @ 750. . . . . lol

    I'm @ 500 and I feel good.

    What's fvked up is everyone is different and all gear is different. How do you know how your gear is dosed? No one does, unless it's pharma grade.

    The shit I got seems good and is hard to come by.

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    Thing is that there is no way to tell, but would you really be shocked if your so called 250mg/ml juice is actually 200? No one would ever know the difference and even if you did you can't do shit about it lol

    Seems like a reasonable explanation why juice back in the days was always strong and potent shit compared to today, it was always what it said it was

    Anyway dude doing well keep up the good work, personally of I was you save your cash and stick with the 500mg
    Per week, youl be satisfied

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    That's why I'm thinking of getting the gear for my next cycle ready while I have a legit source.

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    Good blog, man. You definitely grew a lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpMasterFlex View Post
    Good blog, man. You definitely grew a lot!
    And still am. . .

    I wish I was more disciplined with my diet, the gains would be leaner.

    But, it's hard for me to pound in 4k in calories a day of quality foods.


    I'm gonna wait another week or so until I post another pic. It's a noticeable difference already though. From 185Lbs. or so to 210+

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    That's wild. Yeah, I know what you mean. It's hard packing enough clean food to work and whatever. And, it can get expensive--especially meat. I almost lived off of tuna and hardboiled eggs at work and on campus. Adding another shake into the day helps, and it's cheap. I always throw some maltrodextrin in with mine.

    How much cardio are you doing? Doing cardio 3 times a week helped stay lean a lot (it made me hungrier too though). Later into to the cycle I couldn't run much though; it killed my ankles--I think it was from gaining so much weight so fast that they weren't used to it. After that, I rode a bike a lot.

    Looking forward to the pics.

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    I'm doing cardio 3-5 times per week at 15-25 minutes.

    The gf was faded last night and said I look Big. Lol

    I'm really focusing on a good base to work from. My plan is to hit 225Lbs. By the end of cycle. I am figuring I will need to lose about 30 Lbs of fat to get down to about 10-13% BF. That will approximately put me to 185Lbs, I would love to see 190 & above and under 12% BF.

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    Yeah, you got it. You need to a base to work from. I argue with my dumb cousin all the time; he thinks he can just stay skinny, gain muscle, and stay lean. Like a sculpter, you need to start out with a slab and chisel it down. The last time I checked, I was at around 12% BF--but at 175ish and 5'5" I don't look nearly as lean as I would like to. I'm thinking about running a cycle of anavar before summer's here to lean up and gain some strength. The problem is, usually, every time I cut weight I end up sacrificing strength and muscle. I haven't tried it yet, but I'm hoping some anavar does the trick.

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    I am against oral roids. If I wasn't I would have jumped my cycle with some A-Bombs.

    But, I am too attached to my liver.

    I was considering some Var though. Just harden up and look lean. . . . But, that whole Steroid being toxic shit isn't cool.

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    Yeah, I thought about that too. But, I don't drink so I figured one cycle can't be too much worse than doing whatever all my other friends do every week for years and years. On this site's steroid effectiveness chart, they give it a 2.5 for side effects and say it's mild on the liver--nothing like Dbol or the other orals. However, I don't personally know anyone who has used it.

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    It is what it is, it's another added side effect.

    I'm happy with the injectables.

    But, Anavar sounds good. So does Anidrol though.



    I would love to try a A-Bomb cycle for 4 weeks then 4 weeks on Var, whole time on Test Prop. Just sounds rough.

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    Yeah, haha I don't think I'm ready for that yet. Just one thing, maybe a two stacked is good enough for me for now.

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    We'll see, I feel big already. I'm as big as I always wanted to be.

    Maybe a bit bigger. . . lol

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    If you really wanted to kickstart without an oral, prop is your best friend... if you dont mind pinning EOD/ED

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    Quote Originally Posted by STAUNCHED427 View Post
    If you really wanted to kickstart without an oral, prop is your best friend... if you dont mind pinning EOD/ED
    I'm considering prop for my next cycle, whenever that may be.

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    Good Post; really interesting to see the changes and improvements.

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    Day #38


    Captain's log:

    Fvck, my stomach is killing me. I shit so much, most days 3-4x per day. I figure it as normal I guess since I'm eating more than I ever have. I eat a minimum of 2 meals per day and a PWO shake in the middle. Each of the 3 consist of a minimum of 1,000 calories and 80 grams of protein. Usually each meal is about 1,200 calories and 100+grams of protein.

    My fibre intake is at least 25 grams per day. But, geez. . . I shit like a dawg. I'm trying my best to keep my diet clean and not full of fatty shitty foods.

    I am up to 213Lbs. and 20% Bf. I feel huge, the fattest I have ever been was 225Lbs. That was when I was 20. I was 145Lbs until 20, where I gained about 75-80 pounds.

    At the age of 22 I started working out, I lost all my fat and got down to 165 or so. That took about a year, after that I started lifting on and off until about 6 months ago where I started lifting very regularly and hard.



    I'm trying to post up my experience with AAS as much as I can. I was the guy reading a good dozen posts like this wondering WTF would happen to me when I started. I know I was not even close to my natural genetic potential, but I always wanted to try AAS. This seemed like the best time.

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    Good blog brother. I'm subscribed!

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