1st Cycle ever, Test Enen Only

[canadianbrah]

Good read and good work op.

Are you Canadian btw?

[< <Samson> >]

Good read and good work op.

Are you Canadian btw?

Thx, yo. . .

Nope, not Canadian. . . Russian actually

[Scabtree]

Thx, yo. . .

Nope, not Canadian. . . Russian actually

That's OK you're not Canadian. We can't hold that against ya.

[< <Samson> >]

Ha, yeah - I need to get to bigger Rusky Status.

When you see shit like this. . . Geez. . . I would never want to be pro or close. Their maintenance is insane.

[< <Samson> >]

Day 40

Still no real sides, the nipps started getting a tiny bit puffy. When I take my stane at night, next morning they are back to normal.

Just came back from another bi and back workout. Arms are almost 17.25"

I'm still growing well.

Weighing in @ 213Lbs. this A.M.

My goal is still 225Lbs by the end of week 11.

Waist is still under 37"

But, my fvcking legs just keep getting bigger too. **** man, my calves are as big as my arms(almost). And my thighs look huge. At least my ass isn't getting any bigger.

My lifts are going up so well. Between every workout my lifts just seem to be going up.

Not to mention I can run better than I could in the past. With quite a bit less fatigue in my legs.


I seem to feel so much better and focused on everything in and out of the gym. After PCT I will get all my blood work done. I had blood work done for my test before & the doc said it was fine, but I can't remember what the #'s were.

It's too early for me to say, but I been reading quite a bit on HRT. I have been having some ED issues in the past 2-3 years. But, while on I feel like I did when I was 20 and can pop wood on command.

We'll see, something to consider for later.

[< <Samson> >]

Day 43

Lost some weight, down to 211.5

I eat all day, there is not more than 30 minutes in the day where I feel somewhat hungry.

Currently on the see-food diet. But, not in a bad way, everything I eat is very protein rich.

I feel like I just can't pack in enough calories. Shit, my maintenance is now 3k a day. Sounds stupid, I know. But, I don't think my stomach can't keep up with my growth. I will do my best to stay at 3,500 per day. Also considering dropping or cutting my cardio.

Feeling strong as ever, just trying to get to my goal of 225Lbs and 20 or so % Bf by the end of this cycle.


Here is a pic of me now. I feel like I look almost the same, but ummm I weigh almost 30 more pounds and my bi's are straight up one inch bigger.

[>Good Luck<]

Good job brotha!

[Bigd89]

Are you doing any cardio?

[< <Samson> >]

Are you doing any cardio?

I was, 3-4x per week.

Since I'm not putting on weight, I'm stopping at least until I see more pounds put on.

Clean diet, I know. . . . I know.

But, I'm not putting on shit. At least for the last week I haven't.

I'm still trying my best to eat more.

[C-BuZz]

I was, 3-4x per week.

Since I'm not putting on weight, I'm stopping at least until I see more pounds put on.

Clean diet, I know. . . . I know.

But, I'm not putting on shit. At least for the last week I haven't.

I'm still trying my best to eat more.

Definitely bigger man, A LOT. Don't take this the wrong way, but you look like a bigger version of when you started with the same definition. How's your intensity & how often are you training? I know you said your diets clean, but is it really? Be honest.

You said your goal is 225@20% BF, why those specific numbers? Is this your only goal?

[canadian-bacon]

I have never done a cycle and can't/shouldn't give cycle advice. But! This is your own words.

"I'm really focusing on a good base to work from. My plan is to hit 225Lbs. By the end of cycle. I am figuring I will need to lose about 30 Lbs of fat to get down to about 10-13% BF. That will approximately put me to 185Lbs, I would love to see 190 & above and under 12% BF."

Didnt you start at 185@15%bf? Could have been done without a cycle? Seems like you are making it so much harder on yourself.

[< <Samson> >]

I hear ya, I can't do such a high calorie diet that's clean. Not, can't - Just wont. My diet is even worse now, I want to kick up my weight as much as I can.

Maybe, I could have done it natural. I just wanted to try AAs, it's no magic shit. It's more of a good kick over the edge. . . . But, we'll see how this goes. I'm not a gym nut, I'm not going to down egg whites and mush. Maybe, here and there but not like some.

225Lbs with 20% is just fine with me. . . .

I do feel like a bigger me. Everything is just plain out bigger, arms, neck, gut, calves and chest.

Just fine with me, I wish there was magic shit. But, that ain't happening.

[>Good Luck<]

I hear ya, I can't do such a high calorie diet that's clean. Not, can't - Just wont. My diet is even worse now, I want to kick up my weight as much as I can.

Maybe, I could have done it natural. I just wanted to try AAs, it's no magic shit. It's more of a good kick over the edge. . . . But, we'll see how this goes. I'm not a gym nut, I'm not going to down egg whites and mush. Maybe, here and there but not like some.

225Lbs with 20% is just fine with me. . . .

I do feel like a bigger me. Everything is just plain out bigger, arms, neck, gut, calves and chest.

Just fine with me, I wish there was magic shit. But, that ain't happening.

Yea it seems outrageous at times, the amount of food you gotta eat to have a high cal clean diet... Sometimes when I'm eating I'm asking my self why am I doing this? I enjoy all the foods that I'm nolonger allowed to eat if I want to have an acceptable diet to gain muscle mass, but is a nice body really worth it? How can it be that the only way to a strong fit body is eggs, chicken and brown rice... Ok and broccoli.... And water to drink... Even no milk people say, because of insulin spikes... It really makes it hard to jam that many calories in a day! Even the food I love to eat will make me gag after eating it every day for a week, let alone for life!

Good luck to you bro, and keep up the good work! Looks and sounds like a positive experience for u

[< <Samson> >]

For sure man. That is exactly how I feel.

I am pretty happy with me. I just want to be bigger and a bit stronger.

Fvck this total diet BS. I will eat good, but not what is recommended. I understand the results will not be perfect. But, who cares? I don't need to be the gym stud.

What, running cycles is good for you? Who are you kidding. To each is own.


Like a guy mentioned to me, don't smoke w*@d. Why not? Is it worse then taking shots of a substance that I have no idea where or how it was made? Really?

[< <Samson> >]

Day 47

Captain's Log:

Fvck, how is it this hard to gain weight? I eat & eat & then I eat some more. Focusing on ground beef and eggs. I know I should be eating nothing but chicken breasts and mush. But, I am not even gaining fat. Still @ 20% BF as of yesterday. My stomach just feels stretched. . . . I never thought I would say or think this, but I'm just looking forward to cutting. Never thought I would miss the feeling of hunger.

I am 214.5 as of this morning.

Went to the gym yesterday, had a great bi and back workout, the lifts are amazing.

The weight I am pushing is insane compared to what I started at. For instance, I curled 45's with real good solid form. Now I curl 60's but struggling. . . . The 45's feel like 30's.

I also stopped taking the Ai, not completely. I have not taken the stane for almost a week. No sides, no puffy nipples or anything.


I'll keep posting to this until my next cycle I was only planning to cycle only once, maybe it will be my only cycle. Just trying to find a solid weight for my size.

But, from what I see with another cycle I can get as big as I ever wanted. After this one, I should be a little bit under.

[>Good Luck<]

Have u been eating complex carbs? Since I switched from white rice to brown rice, and from white potatoes to sweet potatoes and whole wheat breads I noticed that I don't feel full as long, and I have a bit more energy. Also it isn't as hard to eat every 2 hours or so... Not sure if it's the switch to complex carbs or just getting used to eating as much as a fatass! Lol

Im not 100% sure, but to my understanding 1g of fat is equal to 9 cals, but those cals are harder to digest and don't promote muscle growth. If you can try to get in more protein and less cals from fat you will probably continue to grow some more... Maybe someone can confirm or deny my thoughts? I know your not worried about bf% but the extra fats won't help you grow like cals from protein or cals from carbs...complex carbs, only because they burn slower and don't convert to sugars, and therefore stave off catabolism.

[< <Samson> >]

I can't do sweet potatoes, ewwww.


I don't feel tired at most times, I feel nice & pumped when I hit the gym.

My cal intake is good and protein is good. But, I am getting a lot of fat in my diet too though.

My usual cal count is something like this:

3,800 cal - 280g protein - 120g fat - 300g carbs

[>Good Luck<]

I believe your fat intake accounts for 29% of your cals. I'm still learning, but all recommendations say that for bulking you should aim for 40%carb40%pro20%fat maximum. Maybe the high fat content won't bother you but it will make you believe the calories you are eating are doing something for you which they are not. And because fats hold such a high value of cals (9cal-1gram fat) they rack up the cals fast!

IMO, if you calculate for that ratio, the increase in protein and carb by default - will make you grow! Also at 215lbs u should try to eat 430+ grams protein to grow... Imagine how that will effect your calories count

[< <Samson> >]

430+ Mother of Jesus.


5k in cals it is, lol

Maybe not, makes sense though.

Like cottage cheese and Protein Powder doesn't have that many cals but does have shit loads of protein.

[>Good Luck<]

Exactly my point. It's really hard to hit 3800 cals in the manner these body builders are doing it. So... I try to focus on getting my protein, and my carbs - and calories just come naturally.

Now I your saying your upping the cals to 5k!!! I'd say thats considered "dirty bulking", and that's a whole other topic

[< <Samson> >]

Now I your saying your upping the cals to 5k!!! I'd say thats considered "dirty bulking", and that's a whole other topic

I was kidding. . . lol

I doubt that I can hit 5k a day.

[< <Samson> >]

Day 49

Captain's log:


Apparently with my diet now, I am not really gaining fat. I'm still right at 20% and my weight this A.M. is 215 flat, that's after a dump. Weighed myself last night before bed too, weighing in at 221.5

My diet yesterday:

8:30 - 2 cups of Greek yogurt

9:30 - 1+cups of oats mixed with a scoop of MM, scoop of egg protein, 1/3rd cup of OJ and a cup of whole milk(it will be skim next time)

12:00 - Ma's meatloaf(about 3-5oz's) & 2 small whole wheat pitas

Gym

3:30 - PWO = 850 cal, 75'gs of protein

8:00 - 6 whole eggs, 2 cups of Greek yogurt and a cup of whole milk

10:00 - 1+ cups of cottage cheese mixed with a fat scoop of MM




I just can't eat more along with drinking over a gallon of water a day.

On a positive note, I don't seem to be gaining mas fat. Seems like muscle gain now since I am not going up in my fat % and the weight is climbing very slowly. Also noticed that my veins are starting to show on my shoulders and upper chest. It's pretty noticeable since I never had visible veins on my body at all.


I have exactly four weeks to go with the test I got left.

I also cut the Ai to about once a week. There are no sides so far and from what I can tell it does hinder gains a bit.

[< <Samson> >]

Day 51


Just came back from the Gym. I feel huge, no cardio in almost 2 weeks. Everyone I know and talk to asks what I'm one. If I know them well, I let them know. Most people I told said they want to do it and as me a ton of shit, like where can get some.

Weighed in @ 217.5 this A.M.

I will post up pics in about a week. I am getting fatter for sure, my things are huge and I can barely seem my abs when I suck it in.

Total weight gain so far is 33.5Lbs exactly from my start.


Started my mostly liquid diet today too.

Morning - 1.5 cups of oats, 2 scoops of MM, OJ, strawberries and skim milk - Total of about 800 cal

PWO - 3 scoops of MM, .5 cup of oats, banana, strawberries, OJ, skim milk and peanut butter - another 800 cal

Evening - Cream of meat ground beef, beef broth, .5 cup of brown rice, water and a cup of pinto beans - about 650 cal

[nakota2k]

I wish you the best of luck with your final results. Hope to be running the same cycle soon.

[ironbeck]

Are you starting to level out with that initial feeling when AS kicks in?

[< <Samson> >]

Are you starting to level out with that initial feeling when AS kicks in?

Hmmmm, I don't know. . . I just feel like I am "on" 90% of the day.



Today:

Weighing in @ 218.5 Lbs.
Arm size is @ 17 1/3"(cold) - yesterday after a chest & tri workout I was at a solid 17.5"


Well, my diet now is just insane. I eat then I eat some more, then more & more. Started eating a cup+ of cottage cheese & casein before bed. Maaaan, casein is nasty shit.


My goal now is to hit 230Lbs. within the next 3 and a half weeks.


Here is a current pic. I am the most bloated of the day right here. In the morning my gut looks way less bloated.

[< <Samson> >]

Still @ 218.5 today

Here without bloat in the morning.

[>Good Luck<]

Nice work broski! Gains look solid and u seem happy with your progress.

[< <Samson> >]

Nice work broski! Gains look solid and u seem happy with your progress.

Fcking insanity, after a full bi and back workout my arms are 17 and 3'4".

Just checked fat % too, I am @ 22.4%

Damn human mind, I am already planning my next cycle. lol

The douche bag trainer at my gym tried to out me today. How can you be getting this big? Are you on something? You juicing? What is it? - Fag, he's mad that I am almost his size and he was just talking shit when I first joined up. Turd

[austinite]

Awesome log bro. Keep it up! I actually plan on a Test only cycle after Im done with my tren /test.

nevermind that trainer, lol. He wants what youre gaining.

[< <Samson> >]

Exactly 3 weeks to go as of tomorrow.


I'll keep updating shit on here until I go into cycle two. I am think possibly about 6-8 months after I finish this one.

Next cycle thoughts so far:

Test prop & Tren (Mmmmm)

Test prop & NPP (that just sounds like it would be some good juice

Anadrol Injections(possibly A-Bombs) & Test prop

Or just another long run of test enan. . . .


I really need to see how I feel and look after this full cycle is complete(after PCT +2 months then a cut of 3 months)



Been thinking of long term goals now. Most I would like to push ever is 215 Lbs. @ a 12<BF%


Hoping to drop to 190+ after the full cut and water loss out of this cycle. I figure that is fairly reasonable since I started at 184 @ 15%BF.


All of this gives me a constant workout track. I never had a long term goal for my weight and weight lifting. I still don't care about strength, it goes up as my size increases from what I have noticed.


As long as life is good to me like it has been, from what I for see this will take me about 2 years to complete.

[crunkee]

Tren just sounds scary to me .. I feel like id be in some nightmarish dream .. with the waitress coming to the table and saying "may i take your order" and after i order some tren she would say "And what sides would u like with that!" and while i was eating my tren sandwich i start getting gyno on my forehead .

Most you would want to ever push is 215 lol! Im not drinking that kool-aid. I was only gonna do 2 weak var cycles. now i started test e.

Good luck bro ..seems to be going good for ya

[< <Samson> >]

215 to me is a lot. . . .Up until the age of 20 I only weighed 145. Then I got fat and got to 229, then lost all my fat down to 165.

At 225 and 12% BF I would look huge.

[< <Samson> >]

Day 55

Captain's log:

Weiged in @ 221Lbs. this morning

Got another shot in the ol' ass, 5 shots left to go.

Kinda sucks, I feel this good. . . Now I don't wanna come off. lol

Checked my bf% yesterday, right @ 21%.


Still shooting for 230 Lbs. with whatever BF%. I would love to be under 23%.

Started my creatine too, not that it really does much.

[crunkee]

Ya im kinda wondering if its depressing to come off a cycle. It sure seems like it will. Kinda like going on a week long vacation and then going back to work. Even though you can go on another one. Reality will always be back like the electric bill.

[>Good Luck<]

Ya im kinda wondering if its depressing to come off a cycle. It sure seems like it will. Kinda like going on a week long vacation and then going back to work. Even though you can go on another one. Reality will always be back like the electric bill.

Depressing for me when I came off my first cycle. Havent stopped wanting my next cycle , even tho it was supposed to be my "one and only cycle". Pfft... Yea right

[Konnann]

Depressing for me when I came off my first cycle. Havent stopped wanting my next cycle , even tho it was supposed to be my "one and only cycle". Pfft... Yea right

haha that's how I'm feeling already and I'm only on my 1st week.
How long is a proper wait time between cycles?

[>Good Luck<]

haha that's how I'm feeling already and I'm only on my 1st week.
How long is a proper wait time between cycles?

Time on plus pct time = time off.

So example is 10 week cycle sustanon , 18 days wait until 4 week pct. Time off = 16 weeks 4 days.

Well thats the standard protocol, so I hear... Sucks aas. Lol

[< <Samson> >]

Geez, fellas. . . Now I can't wait till I come off


No, but it is what it is. It will be a minimum of 6 months until my next cycle after I am off this one. Possibly even longer.


I understand we can't be on a constant cycle. Plus, it's not that intense of a feeling for me being on this test enan only shit. It's there and I do feel more on a bit, but not huge.

Sooooo, hopefully when it is gone I will not miss it that much.

[Natural selection]

sorry i am new but is this thread making a mockery of newbies?

u are cycling over 20% bf?
u waist is 37 inches?
uve put on 40lbs?
6 u gained right after the first injection?
u said you arms are pumped on a non arm day? you know arms are involved in most exercises ?
u dont asperate when ur wife injects you cause its to much trouble?
u are gonna use tren in your second cycle?
unless u are a nonn responder creatine and gear are a bodybuilder marriage

not tryingto be rude. but please someone tell me if this is a joke or real