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    1st Cycle - Test E/Dbol (Complete Log)

    Cycle Log

    STATS
    Age 28
    Boxing age 14 - 25
    weights 4years
    Height: 5ft 10inch
    Weight: 180lbs
    bf is around 12%
    Cycle history: Hdrol in 2010 and start of 2011 (did nolva 20/20/20/20 as PCT )

    Cycle
    Weeks 1-4 Dbol 40mg pday (10mg morning/20mg PPWO/10mg evening)
    Weeks 1-12 - 500mg Test E (Monday AM & Thursday PM)
    Weeks 1-16 Competitive Edge Labs Cycle Assist (8tabs per day)

    PCT
    Clomid 100/100/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/20/20
    BRITISH ARIMIDEX (ANASTRAZOLE). I will take 0.5mg EOD ONLY if I get sides.

    Workout Program (5days Per Week)
    Monday: Chest & Abs
    Tuesday: Quads and Hamstrings & Forearms
    Wednesday: Shoulders & Calfs
    Thursday: Back & Abs
    Friday: Bicep/Tricep
    Cardio: Emmmmm (Maybe 5minutes pre workout on the punchbag).

    Pictures: I will upload photos once per week,
    Day: 1
    Weight: 178.4
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    Diet

    This is the planned diet.

    I will have 1x cheat day per week, which will be SUNDAYS. I will eat what i want and as much of it as able, I will not eat sugary based food (I hate sweets etc)

    Harris Benedict Formula for Calorie Calculations
    13.7x80kg = 1096 'My weight'
    + 66
    + 180x5 = 900 'My height'
    - 6.8x 28 = 190.4 'My age'
    = 2186.4
    x 1.55 '3-5 times per week cardio'
    TOTAL = 3388.92


    Meal #1: Time 0800
    100g Oats=81g carbs x 11g protein x 8g fat – Kcal = 356
    100g egg whites= 0g carbs x 11g protein x 0g fat - Kcal = 48
    50g Whey = 3g Carbs x 41g Protein x 3.4g Fat – kcal =m196.6
    Total calories= 600.6
    Total Carbs: 84g
    Total pro: 63g
    Total fat: 11.4



    Meal 2:Time 1000

    260g Tuna= 0g carbs x 65g protein x 28g fat – Kcal = 512
    Total calories= 512
    Total Carbs: 0g
    Total pro: 65g
    Total fat: 28


    Meal 3:Time 1200
    150g Chicken Breast = 0g carbs x 36g protein x 1.5g fat – Kcal = 150
    30g Brown Rice = 7g carbs x 1g protein x 0.5g fat – Kcal = 38
    100g Mixed Veg = 5.4g carbs x 2.4g protein x 0.4g fat – Kcal = 39
    Total calories= 227
    Total Carbs: 12.4g
    Total pro: 39.4g
    Total fat: 2.9


    Meal 4 (PPWO):Time 1300
    2 Slice Bread = 36g carbs x 11g protein x 8.5g fat – Kcal = 290
    50g Natural Peanut = 5.8g carbs x 14.8g protein x 23g fat – Kcal = 289.5
    1x Banana = 27g carbs x 1.3g protein x 0.4g fat – Kcal = 105
    Total calories= 684.5
    Total Carbs: 68.8
    Total pro: 27.1g
    Total fat: 39.1


    Meal 5 (PWO):Time 1500
    75g Whey = 4.5g Carbs x 61.5g Protein x 5.1g Fat – kcal = 294.9
    100g Oats=81g carbs x 11g protein x 8g fat – Kcal = 356
    Total calories= 650.9
    Total Carbs: 85.5 g
    Total pro: 72.5g
    Total fat: 13.1


    Meal 6: Time 1700
    150g Chicken Breast = 0g carbs x 36g protein x 1.5g fat – Kcal = 150
    30g Brown Rice = 7g carbs x 1g protein x 0.5g fat – Kcal = 38
    100g Mixed Veg = 5.4g carbs x 2.4g protein x 0.4g fat – Kcal = 39
    Total calories= 227
    Total Carbs: 12.4g
    Total pro: 39.4g
    Total fat: 2.9


    Meal 7:Time 1900
    60g lean beef = 0g carbs x 60g protein x 7.5g fat – Kcal = 307.5
    150g sweet potato = 31g carbs x 3g protein x 0g fat – Kcal = 135
    Total calories= 442.5
    Total Carbs: 31g
    Total pro: 63g
    Total fat: 7.5g

    Meal 8: Time 2100
    250g Cottage cheese = 7.5g carbs x 33.5g protein x 0.3g fat – Kcal = 67
    Total calories= 67
    Total Carbs: 7.5g
    Total pro: 33.5g
    Total fat: 0.9


    Meal 9:Time 2200-2300
    60g Casien = 2.6g carbs x 43.3g protein x 2.1g fat – Kcal = 201
    Total calories= 201
    Total Carbs: 2.6g
    Total pro: 43.3g
    Total fat: 2.1


    TOTAL:
    Total calories= 3612.5
    Total Carbs: 304g
    Total pro: 446.2g
    Total fat: 107.9

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    You've laid this out very well mate and all looks good....

    Theres no thing i will say on the diet side of things, i would set out my diet plan and stick to it religiously and it doesn't work. Be careful of over eating, im a firm believer in only eating when your hungry and not stuffing food down you because a strict diet says so....

    Please keep this updated as i and others will be following.....
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    Second Shot

    Did my second shot today, did my first on Friday (Glute) without any issues.

    Question: On today's injection i have a little soreness. I injected into my right Quad, i followed the photos online however it feels swore now (little bruised when pushed a little bit down from the injection site).
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    Looking at where you've injected i would say your a little to central, the outer quad is where it needs to be injected.....

    But remember your injecting into virgin muscle mate so expect a little soreness and pain....
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    Here you go mate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    You've laid this out very well mate and all looks good....

    Theres no thing i will say on the diet side of things, i would set out my diet plan and stick to it religiously and it doesn't work. Be careful of over eating, im a firm believer in only eating when your hungry and not stuffing food down you because a strict diet says so....

    Please keep this updated as i and others will be following.....
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    Ok update on training,

    Monday was chest day. I did 6 exercise, 4sets of each. I was very keen to push myself and felt good, i started the Dbol on the Sunday so it may be a little soon to be working but I felt strong.

    Tuesday, Legs day. Did 3 exercises on quads, 2 on hamstrings and 2 on calf's. 4 sets of each, felt much more ability to push and give more in my failure reps. I hammered my legs hard

    I know 5days since first shot is too early for that to be working, however the Dbol i think has started kicking in as its been 72hrs since i started it. My diet has been strong, ive been sticking to it without problems. The key is cooking early AM before the day and using plastic containers.

    I always aim to be in the gym no more than 60minutes, thats little rest between exercises. I train like a demon.......

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    Wednesday: Did shoulders, felt a little bolted today which i think is a result of the Dbol and the body adjusting the massive increase of calories. However i can defiantly feel the Dbol working now, did 6 exercises and 4 sets on each. Shoulders and traps got hammered......

    Thursday: Today I did back and abs. Did 5 exercises on back and 2 exercises on abs, 4 sets of each. I feel a little bloated but nothing crazy, i think now my body is starting to level out from the calories and dbol.

    I know my body very very well from the years of dieting due to sport. I can defiantly feel the change, not sure if its a good feeling however in the gym it is

    I will know over the next couple of days how my body adjusts fully, then its just wait for week 4

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    Diet and training look solid! Good luck and hope you're taking progress pics.

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    For reference I have Updated the first post with x2 photos that were taken on Day (1). I will upload photos every Monday so the log has a realistic view of changes.

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    You have a good base now we need to see a massive transformation mate, but remember, its never going to happen over night...
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    Friday update

    Morning weight (before food or water)

    184.6
    = + 6.2lbs (7days since first shot/5days since starting dbol )

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    Are you doing any cardio mate??
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    First week gains look damn awesome ! Keep it up!

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    They are some excellent first week gains! Very impressive! Was your diet similar to this before you started the cycle?

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    Dude. We are pretty much the same build and I'm doing a similar cycle. I'm waiting on my gear to get in. I'll have to post results also.

    I'm 5'10", 170 lbs, 28 y/o, and 11% body fat.

    Here is my cycle.

    Weeks 1-10: 600mg Testosterone Enanthate per week (2 injections of 300mg, Sunday Morning Wednesday night)
    Weeks 1-4: 30mg of Dbol per day (split in two doses, one pre workout, one 12 hours later)
    Weeks 1-12: .5mg of Anastrozole (arimidex ) Every other Day (EOD)

    PCT starts week 12, two weeks after last test shot
    Week 1&2: 40mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day
    Week 3&4: 20mg Tamoxifen (nolva) per day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    Are you doing any cardio mate??
    Hi Matt,
    No cardio, i go on the punchbag for a few minutes before workout but that's it. Just weights and diet, As ive replied below, my initial spike in weight is from my low calories before this cycle. One thing for sure my body looks to be leaning out. I do feel some water from the dbol around my arms however my face has zero bloke. I Look the same, maybe 5% more water in face but not noticeable. My body is defiantly feeling the dbol, ive started week 2 now so the teat still isnt working? (I do feel hornier)

    Quote Originally Posted by mephisto212 View Post
    First week gains look damn awesome ! Keep it up!
    Thanks dude.
    My training in the gym is to my maximum, no surrender

    Quote Originally Posted by boxa06 View Post
    They are some excellent first week gains! Very impressive! Was your diet similar to this before you started the cycle?
    My diet before cycle was MINIMUM... Would just consist of rice and fish or meat NOTHING else. This was due to being overseas with family and their location. As ive said above, the initial spike must be from the shock my system has from the calories and the dbol.

    UPDATE
    Saturday/REST Day : Diet was good, only missed evening shake.
    Sunday/REST Day: I went out Saturday night and didn't get home until Sunday early morning. I didnt drink but i was shattered as i had to weight for a train home. Will not be staying out that late again.

    Today Monday
    Start of week 2
    Had no problems with morning jab (left Glute), went well. I will update Friday again with photos and weight along with daily reports on my workouts.

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    Monday: Chest and Abs. (Felt a little tired from the weekends lack of sleep)

    Tuesday: Did Quads and Hamstrings along with forearms,

    Wednesday: Shoulders and Calves

    Today's weight (03112011) (morning before food/water) 185.6lbs -- My body has leveled out from the dbol and diet, i am carrying water around the arms and they look a little puffy but my face looks ok and no noticeable water retention. Libdo seems a little elevated, tomorrow is 14days from 1st shot so i think this is to be expected around now.

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    Good base and good work so far mate, similar stats to myself so interested to see where this takes you.

    Just curious with your diet... I calculate your caloric ratios as 30% carbs, 45% protein, 25% fats... seems a little high on fat, and little low on carbs and a little high on protein? Can I ask why you didnt go something more conventional like 40/40/20?

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    Hi,

    I have adjusted the diet, i have dropped the Fat and lowered the Protein along with stepping up the carbs. My only concern is bloating from too much carb intake, I will get my new diet up today/tomorrow with more realistic Macros.

    Weight is leveling out now, the initial spike in weight was the jump in calories over my much lower intake the couple of month previous to this cycle. I had low BF% but lost a lot of muscle, my aim with this cycle is to reach 210lbs and able to keep 200lbs after PCT along with abs (must have Abs), i dont want to bloat out.

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    Looks well thought/planned out. Goodluck, will be following.

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    Look s like solid result so far !

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    Friday Update (End week 2) 14days from 1st Shot / 12days from Dbol

    Weight: 188lbs (+ 9.6lbs) (this is morning weight/no food or water)
    Training: The weeks training has been going well, defiantly feel more strength and ability to push and go further.
    Mood/Feeling: I feel like an 18yr old kid, just wana bang anything :/
    Sides: None, although i did have swore nipple last night. It was due to wearing a tight t-shirt in gym when doing deadlifts. I do think my balls have shrunk a little. No extra aggression except when in the gym.

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    Friday: Arms and triceps. My tricepts are a weak area which i need to spend more time on. I did 3 exercises on both biceps and triceps which consisted of 4 sets. Arms were pumped and I was feeling strong

    Sat/Sunday is rest day. I'm looking forward to Sunday's cheat day as i have been sticking to the diet, if i change the meal it will always consist of clean carbs/fats which does get a little boring. I have had to buy light fat mayo and saladcrew to flavour things up a little as the food was getting to bland :/

    What does everyone think of the photos at the end of week 2???

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    awesome progress u look leaner and more muscular

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    Ur doing an excellent job bro!!

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    Saturday and Sunday was rest days. Diet was good on Saturday and i ate like a warrior on my cheat day.

    Monday: Chest day, i trained like a complete animal. I pushed myself to the limit on all 5 exercises, (Chest day). Did abs too which got a hammering

    Tuesday
    today is legs, i will hit Quads and Hamstrings along with forarms... Leg day is kinda scary, i always train them so hard i feel sick :/

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    In. Keep up the work and updates mate

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    TUESDAY (Today): Did Legs, 3 exercises on Quads/4sets and 3 exercises on Hamstrings 3 exercises/4sets. I also did forearms, 2 exercises with 4 sets of each.
    My Squats were 120kg, 4sets. I was going very low with the squats keeping correct form, i will go 140-150kg next week.

    I am starting to feel a little more of a lump, heaver and a little more aggression. Nothing unusual just a lot more ability to push in the gym when id normally flake out. As its only start of week 3 its still too early for the test.

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    Wednesday Today i did Shoulders, Traps and Calves. I spent around 65minutes i nthe gym which is pretty much my limit, i train hard with little rest so 60minutes is serious lifitng.

    4 soulder exercises with 4 sets.
    3 Calves exercises / 4 sets
    3 traps, 4 exercisesa and 4 sets.

    I felt strong, its been 19days since first shot so its still the Dbol which is making the strength gains.

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    Great stuff bro.Keep it up and us updated.
    Best of luck,

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    Awesome job! I'll be following this.

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    Thursday
    Today was back day, I did 4 exercises with 4 sets. It took 60minutes which was with little rest. As Ive said before i aim for 60miuntes max in the gym, anymore and i feel lethargic and am most likely to cause injury.

    I also did my shot in the Quad, last time i did it i went too central into the muscle. This time i think i went a little but too outer, I tense the quad so i was in that muscle but a little bit to the outer edge. The next time I will have it correct

    Oh and I'm sure people will notice the updated pictures tomorrow, ive put on constant weight and for the first time im starting to fill t-shirts which were once baggy Pics tomorrow AM

    QUESTION!
    I'm not sure if its me being paranoid or the fact i have had a sunbed but my right nipple seems a little swore. I can push the nipple hard and around that area and there is no pain however when i such the tip of the nipple it feels like ive had some chaffing (same as wearing a tight top). What do you guys think, any other way to determine if this is a negative side or is it just me being worried?
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    You have 3 options here now mate..

    1/ Start your adex at .5mgs eod

    2/ Start nolva at 20mgs ed

    3/ Leave it for now and see how it feels in a few days....

    Now personally i would go with option 1, i would do this because theres no point in taking risks and the fact that you weight is claiming fast tells me thats your holding water....
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    Thanks Matt,

    Option one it is, I will start the Adex now at 0.5mg EOD.

    Thanks for the prompt reply dude

    EDIT: I have decided to take option 3 and wait a few days, i know my body but i also know me. Ill watch the area closely and stay off the sunbed, if it doesn't subside by Monday or gets worse ill take option 1.
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    Friday Update (End week 3) 21days from 1st Shot / 19days from Dbol

    Weight: 190.8lbs (+ 11.6lbs) (this is morning weight/no food or water)
    Training: The weeks training has been going well, my strength is up way more than anything ive ever noticed.
    Diet: My diet has remained pretty much as mentioned above, however i have droped 1 meal and the others have had more emphasis placed on clean carbs. My calorie intake is still very close to as mention above, i now eat often but more to how i feel instead of by the clock. I feel better this way and less blot.
    Mood/Feeling: I dont feel as horny as i was previously (still bang anything), i may have a little more aggression but other than that feel good.
    Sides: None, I previously posted that my nipples were swore. I believe this was from sunbed, i burn easy and 6minutes was too much for me. Red pretty much all over but my chest was worst. I'm decided to wait a few days and see if the sworeness dies down. It doesn't help that i keep pinching my nipples :/

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    Def getting thicker. Agree with Matt on adex. Even though I don't think it's gyno. Keep track of sex drive, if it lowers too much you might want to get BL done to see if you have lowered your estrogen/test ratio too much with the adex.

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    Friday: Today was arm and abs day, did 3 exercises and 3 sets on both biceps and triceps. Arms were pumped and I felt strong. The situation with the swore nipples seems to be going, which as expected was a result of cooking myself on the sunbed. The rest of my chest is a little itchy which is the result of becoming dry.

    Diet has been good today, ive been mixing things up a little to stop the boredom of such bland food. The only negative is am loosing my abs a little, not massively but more than when i started. I will keep an eye on things and see how my weight BF% is at the end of next week.

    All in all another end to a good week of training Now 2 days of rest (YIPPEEEE)

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