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09-18-2012, 06:14 PM #41
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09-18-2012, 06:50 PM #42
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09-18-2012, 06:54 PM #43
^ thanks Lev.
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09-19-2012, 08:20 AM #44
Aus- I can assume you do not have hair or don't mind losing it?
Cycle looks great! I can't wait till I run mast primo together. I am too scared to lose my hair haha
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09-19-2012, 08:23 AM #45
I agree with danb, your goal is definitely within reach!
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09-19-2012, 09:08 AM #46
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09-19-2012, 09:22 AM #47
Damn this looks good, definitely following this.
I'm curious, have you calculated roughly how much this course is going to set you back? Sorry if thats a bit nosey, but it's such a big course!
Look forward to reading about your progress, good luck!
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09-19-2012, 09:31 AM #48
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09-19-2012, 09:33 AM #49
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09-19-2012, 09:36 AM #50
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09-19-2012, 09:37 AM #51
I agree with cape of course! You still need to add in the diet plan. When on cycle or cutting you tend to eat more expensive meat (lean meat is a lot more) at least I do. I have never thought to add what everything costs. This is another reason why we want newbies to start out at 500 a week and be under 15% bf. it shows dedication and someone who knows what to eat (most of the time) if you cant eat right then you are wasting your body and money..
back to aus- again look forward to your progress and be of any assitance if I can!
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09-19-2012, 09:39 AM #52
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09-20-2012, 06:35 PM #53
Main post updated with current blood work.
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09-20-2012, 08:15 PM #54Banned
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looks like it would do no harm to donate a pint or two or blood before you start
not a big deal at moment but i would expect your cycle to further raise hemocrit/hemoglobin levels and they already on high side of normal..........Last edited by DanB; 09-20-2012 at 08:18 PM.
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09-20-2012, 08:19 PM #55
Yeah. I can sacrifice 500ml's. Agreed.
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09-20-2012, 08:32 PM #56
Agreed^^^. I'm dealing with some bs issues re bp/rbc/hematocrit right now b/c I started out on cycle on the high end of those ranges just like you, and now they're out of control. Either get it sorted now or be prepared to have to deal with it once those levels are way out of reference range which obviously is easier to correct before you get too far into cycle. I'm not telling you anything you don't already know but don't underestimate the health implications of high bp and/or rbc/hematocrit while on cycle......
Have you checked your BP? With your current rbc/hematocrit levels it's not gonna get any better while on cycle unless you donate blood or take bp meds........
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09-20-2012, 08:52 PM #57
Yes, Sarge. BP meds will go on my list. I absolutely agree with you. too many people underestimate the dangers. I'll be monitoring daily.
145/90
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That's a well planned out cycle plan. 100% professional. Good luck and I will be watching.
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10 days and counting, my man. I know i don't need to do this but going to anyway. You have a busy schedule coming up, might want to take a little extra time for yourself and rest a little bit before you start that 4:1.?
Good Luck!!
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09-21-2012, 07:34 AM #60
4:1 ouch. I would definitely switch to a 3:1
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09-21-2012, 09:31 AM #61
Thank you Mis. Much appreciated.
haha, thanks stpete. As you can see the Test dosage is adjusted after we spoke. Yes, I'm going to take Thurs/Friday/Sat/Sun Off. (the 4 days before the cycle starts)
Yes, I might switch over to what stpete is doing and run 3:1. Leg days are lie a thorn in my schedule
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OK, i just checked your log again. I think you made a good decision. And i only gave you that recommendation from my own personal experience. I've done some silly stuff in the past, but at the time, people didn't think so much about it cause the knowledge/research just wasn't there. I won't go full disclosure here but i've went low, and even without test in a few cycles and they just don't compare w/the ones where test was equal, or greater than other compound(s).
When i first used tren back in 2004, i used it twice without test. Man o man...I got some goods gains but lost all kinds of weight. Went from 225 to 204. Cut like a mother but couldn't eat, sleep, fvck and was just tired all the damn time. Added a little test, and things got a little better. Was able to screw, but not like i want. Insomnia still there but not each and every night. Appetite went up. Fast forward to 2008-09 i started to run test higher and things changed dramatically. Ate like a mother, fvck whenever i want but sleep still a problem. As w/the aggression. But the best thing about it, i gained muscle and weight. Back up to 230-235. Where i like to be.
It's happened w/deca and winstrol as well. Love those compounds too, especially winstrol, but they are better w/a nice dosage of test in there.
Anyway, enough of me and those silly cycles, let's get back to yours.
Good Luck!! And if i can be of any assistance, i'll be around.
And make sure you take those days off, homey. haha...
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09-21-2012, 11:24 AM #63
^ interesting stpete! I actually ran tren without test, too. But not by choice, of all things to be fake, i never expected it to be my TEST! Blood work was very interesting to say the least. And looking back, I have to agree with you.
Now, I completely understand where some of the folks are coming from when they run basic maintenance levels of test. in some cases much lower than my TRT dose. But as always, everyone reacts differently and not everyone has the same goal. For me, the higher test dose has been beneficial in the fatigue dept. When I cycled with TRT I just didnt feel well throughout the cycle. But again, everyone is different.
Anyway, after talking to gearbox and some other food guru's, I think I might run my current diet plan for the 1st 12 weeks. Then I'll probably bring my cals back up to TDEE for the remainder. It's gonna be a lot of hard work.
Thanks again, bro.
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09-21-2012, 11:49 AM #64
Just read this thread.
Great cycle layout.
Im planning a 6 month cycle here shortly and it will follow along the lines of yours.
Different compounds and doses but similar.
I hope you have a kick ass cycle and some insane results man.
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09-21-2012, 12:07 PM #65
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09-27-2012, 07:54 PM #66
Blood donated - CHECK!
I'm taking the next 3 days off from the gym before I start the cycle on the 1st. Kinda itching to hit the bod-pod again. I've been cutting religiously in preparation. Staying away from the scale for now.
Will be adding blood pressure meds to the list of meds on the front page. Maybe cialis.
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09-27-2012, 08:09 PM #67
This is one hell of a cycle, some mr.O stuff going on here !
To bad we can't see pics but def respect your choice
Subbed, good luck!
I'm sure I will learn a lot.
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09-27-2012, 08:19 PM #68
Subscribed....thanks for posting up austinite. Appreciate your level of dedication, knowledge and willingness to help us further down on the ladder. Hope to be there some day.
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09-27-2012, 08:47 PM #69If you have to ask...you can't afford it..
Last edited by OdinsOtherSon; 09-27-2012 at 08:50 PM.
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09-27-2012, 11:36 PM #70
Good idea to rest for a bit before the cycle. Keep me posted and hope the bf% is done if u do body pod
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09-28-2012, 12:01 PM #71
Awesome thread! Really looking forward to updates. On your planned cheat meal, what would it consist of? Do you plan on lifting that day? Are you keeping the macros the same, or just eating 2800 calories however you get it?
You sure you don't want to add your ear lobes or finger tips to your site injections? lol sheeeesh talk about being a pin cushion... more power to ya!
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09-28-2012, 12:24 PM #72
I don't think he has decided on how low calories are going to be. he doesn't them at his tdee. Last we talked 300 below. But I am sure he is going to adjust accordingly
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09-28-2012, 12:35 PM #73
aust checking in
Thanks for posting, should be interesting
Since you can't post pics will you post before/after stats?
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09-28-2012, 06:31 PM #75
Thank you.
Thanks for the kind words.
Yes, I'm going tomorrow. I'll update with new BF%.
thanks. Like gearbox mentioned, my diet is driving me crazy right now. Just when you think you've got it all figured out you find a flaw. This may have to be a 2-phase diet. 12 weeks on one diet and the rest on another.
As for the cheat day, I'll eat whatever I want (except milk) and keep the majority of the calories before 3pm.
Earlobes huh? I'll see if I can find a muscle in there to hold the juice
Correct. I'll be PM'ing you before the cycle for final thoughts.
thanks bikeral. Stats are current and posted on the front page. 1st post. Will update as I go.
Thanks for the support Mickey!
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09-28-2012, 06:56 PM #76
Look toward to it... two days
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09-28-2012, 06:58 PM #77
Super excited for you!
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09-29-2012, 08:29 PM #79
Tick-Toc Tick-Toc
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09-30-2012, 01:53 AM #80
Ill definitely be following this! Kill it!
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