JB'z 8 Week Prop-TrenA Blast

**Lunk1** · 11-18-2012, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnnyBlazzze

Wish I could have just gone to sleep, wasn't even a productive workout lol.

You would have to check with someone who knows for sure but I don't know if you want to take that deph. (zzzzysquil) too frequently. I would be afraid of becoming desensative to it. Trensomnia sucks for sure and I get it BAD!!!!!!!!

**stpete** · 11-19-2012, 07:16 PM

JohnnnyBlazzze is in the house!!!!

I'll be following this little test/tren cycle. Good Luck!!

Tylenol PM and Melatonin help me when the night sweats and insomnia get to be too much.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-19-2012, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by warmouth

I just noticed this JB. Thanks for sharing with us!

My pleasure, Thanks for the support!

Originally Posted by Lunk1

You would have to check with someone who knows for sure but I don't know if you want to take that deph. (zzzzysquil) too frequently. I would be afraid of becoming desensative to it. Trensomnia sucks for sure and I get it BAD!!!!!!!!

I've been taking them for the past 2 weeks now, no increasing dose and they been having the same effects so far. Hopefully they don't stop working :P.

Originally Posted by stpete

JohnnnyBlazzze is in the house!!!!

I'll be following this little test/tren cycle. Good Luck!!

Tylenol PM and Melatonin help me when the night sweats and insomnia get to be too much.

Thanks pete, appreciate the support.

Zzzquil has the same stuff as Tylenol PM which is Diphenhydramine. Tylenol PM actually increases my heart-rate, probably because the high dosage of Acetaminophen.

The Zzzquil has the same ingredients just minus the Acetaminophen.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-19-2012, 10:22 PM

Week 3 Day 16 Sunday (Nov 18) - Prami .6mg - 199.2lbs

Had a solid leg workout, strength is definitely up. Nothing unbelievable but strength increase none the less. Had some pretty
bad sleep and its starting to take a toll on me. Have a lot of time off for the holidays so really going to focus on sleep. The weeks are a bit more difficult since I have to wake up for work so early and work all day then gym. Will continue to truck on through though. Vascularity has increased. Not much more to report other then what I mentioned a the past few days is still continuing.

**Lunk1** · 11-19-2012, 10:23 PM

I ended up going with a cheaper store brand Diphen. tab. Worked very well and much cheaper than the Tylenol brand liquid!

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-19-2012, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

I ended up going with a cheaper store brand Diphen. tab. Worked very well and much cheaper than the Tylenol brand liquid!

I'll have to look around, this zzzquil is hurtin my wallet

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**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-20-2012, 06:22 PM

Week 3 Day 17 Monday (Nov 19) - Prami .6mg Aromasin 12.5mg - 196.2lbs

Weight down probably cause I slept in for about 10 hours and had brutal nights sweats. Was completely drenched. Didn't have that good of a workout today, probably one of the worst since starting this cycle. Needed some sleep which I got so hopefully tomorrows workout goes a lot better. Noticing my appetite is going south, taking B12 but it's doing very minimal. Really finding myself forcing down food and still seems like not enough, will pick up the diet these upcoming days and finish the week strong.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-20-2012, 11:33 PM

Another tren cough. I only get them now every time I do my left deltoid. I actually don't get it in my right deltoid or my chest lol.

My room is starting to smell awful from the sweat, time to do laundry on my sheets :P.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-21-2012, 05:41 AM

Week 3 Day 18 Tuesday (Nov 20) - Prami .6mg Aromasin 12.5mg - 198.3lbs

Had one of the best workouts Ive had all cycle doing delts and traps. Great workout. Strength has gone up, loving the pumps so far. Trying to shovel down some extra food and might need to re-adjust the diet here to include a few more meals because it seems like my weight is just hanging around the high 190's. Ill give it a bit more time before jumping to any drastic conclusions. Cutting my cardio could also be another option. Going to be traveling these next few days, will take thursday off for the holidays. Dont even think any gyms are open on thanksgiving :P. Like I mentioned, got another tren cough and its odd because its only when I pin my left delt. Must be a vien in there im knicking.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-22-2012, 12:26 PM

Week 3 Day 19 Wednesday (Nov 21) - Prami .6mg Aromasin 12.5mgs - 199.2lbs

Traveled all day and didn't get to workout. Will take tomorrow off to and eat everything in sight. Back on it hard on Friday.
Thinking I need these fews days of rest as I've been feeling a bit sluggish lately. My appetite has gone up, feel like I'm hungry all the time now which is good. Might get some cardio in today, not sure. I was told by some family members that I look bigger, they said I was to skinny before and look thicker. Always good to hear compliments, still not even half way done with cycle and enjoying it so far. Looking to have a hard workout Friday following thanksgiving.

**stpete** · 11-22-2012, 02:27 PM

Nothing wrong w/taking a few days off. Relax and enjoy it. come back at it hard.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-22-2012, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by stpete

Nothing wrong w/taking a few days off. Relax and enjoy it. come back at it hard.

It's more physiological then physical downside for me taking days off

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Always have great workouts after a few days off.

Appreciate the support, Sure you'll be puttin it down on Thanksgiving

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**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-23-2012, 03:52 PM

Week 3 Day 20 Thursday (Nov 22) - Prami .6mg - 200.3lbs

Had a good Thanksgiving, had some cheat meals and pretty much just ate everything in sight. Been sleeping really well these last few days and loving it. Still having night sweats but they are mild, I'm not really drenched. Having some crazy ass dreams though. Going to get a solid workout this upcoming day and on Saturday. Really looking forward to see my strength gains after these 2 rest days of good sleep and good eats. Week 3 has been somewhat of a personal disappointment to me, really going to concentrate on stepping it up on week 4 and keeping it solid.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-24-2012, 02:51 PM

Week 3 Day 21 Friday (Nov 23) - Prami .6mg Aromasin 12.5mg - 204.0lbs

Good workout, Weight up probably because of so much I ate on the holidays. Looking forward to these upcoming workouts. Pinned my glutes and added them in the rotation now I can barley sleep on my side. Weight up and still looking lean, almost looks like my waist has gone down a bit as well. Not having issues sleeping to much anymore but the dreams are still weird. Not much sweats either. Looking to enjoy this weekend. Tightened up the diet as well today.

**taaa** · 11-25-2012, 01:22 PM

amazing log what about pictures once the cycle is done? would be nice to see the difference :P

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-25-2012, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by taaa

amazing log what about pictures once the cycle is done? would be nice to see the difference :P

I will have pics, I have some before and you will see after once I am complete

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**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-25-2012, 06:12 PM

Week 4 Day 22 Saturday (Nov 24) - Prami .6mg - 204.2lbs

Feeling a bit crummy lately, have a little fever and feel really sluggish. Got little to no sleep last night, woke up every hour and fought to get back to sleep. Was drenched in sweat to. Still trucking through though, going to get some good sleep in today then see how I feel in the following day. Will try to get a decent cardio sesh and sit in the steam room tonight to see if I can sweat out this cold.

**Lunk1** · 11-26-2012, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by JohnnnyBlazzze

Week 4 Day 22 Saturday (Nov 24) - Prami .6mg - 204.2lbs

Feeling a bit crummy lately, have a little fever and feel really sluggish. Got little to no sleep last night, woke up every hour and fought to get back to sleep. Was drenched in sweat to. Still trucking through though, going to get some good sleep in today then see how I feel in the following day. Will try to get a decent cardio sesh and sit in the steam room tonight to see if I can sweat out this cold.

Rest at all costs man...between lack of slep and the lowered immune system from AAS you are more subject to illness. rest is crucial!
Did ya find the cheaper sleep aid...Walmart has it!

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-27-2012, 10:41 PM

Sorry gents, been running into some hectic days here with work. Been trying to land some dates with some ladies I've had my eyes on lately so been busy there to

. Just moved down here so I gotta get things in order

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**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-27-2012, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Rest at all costs man...between lack of slep and the lowered immune system from AAS you are more subject to illness. rest is crucial!
Did ya find the cheaper sleep aid...Walmart has it!

Yea I needed the 10 hours I got last night. I got an off day either Wednesday or Thursday, going to base it off how I feel.

I picked up a super sale on 2 massive bottles of zzzquil, it was like 15$ for 2 quarts or something like that haha. I'm set for a while now.

If I don't have it, I just accept the fact that I won't be sleeping that night.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-27-2012, 10:44 PM

Week 4 Day 23 Sunday (Nov 25) - Prami .6mg - 203.8lbs

Had solid rest today, got in a decent workout, still feeling a bit crummy. Plans and schedule all mixed up from the holidays but getting back into the swing of things. Diet is tightened up sicne the holidays as well. Really trying to focus and make week 4 a hardworking week. Didn't sleep very well and ran out of zzzquil which is my worst nightmare right now.

Week 4 Day 24 Monday (Nov 26) - Prami .6mg 12.5mg Aromasin - 206.4lbs

Weight is fluxating lately which is normal since my eating times change depending on how long I have to stay at work. As long as I'm maintaining and floating around the low 200's I'm feeling good about it. Lost power in my apartment tonight which was shitty because I couldn't do anything or cook my meals for the next morning. Had to take a shower in the dark and pin with my cell phone light :/. There's far worse things in the world just trying to stay focused

. Good thing is I went straight to bed and got a solid 10 hours in before work. Woke up completley drenched multiple times as well. Had solid back and Bi's.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-28-2012, 09:46 PM

Week 4 Day 25 Tuesday (Nov 27) - Prami .6mg - 203.2lbs

It's getting harder to keep the weight up, this tren is brutal. Even if I do a little cardio my weight will drop. Going to try and cut cardio to 2 days a week. Looking pretty lean for gained weight and liking it so far. Still having intense night sweats, nothing out of the ordinary. Really trying to push 210lbs by the time I get in the middle of week 5 now. Liking how I am feeling and taking the day off tomorrow to get some rest.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-29-2012, 08:08 AM

Week 4 Day 26 Wednesday (Nov 28) - Prami .6mg Aromasin 12.5mg - 201.0lbs

Weight is getting harder to maintain. I am literally eating like a horse but in the mornings I weigh a bit less. As long as I am steadily adding LBM I am not to worried. Majority of the weight is water weight I sweat out the night before. I have already increased the cal count in my diet as well. If things don't start picking up I will increase even more which is getting to be ridiculous. Never have i ate this much and was loosing. Had possibly the most brutal tren cough on cycle yesterday, I could taste the tren in my mouth as I was injecting and coughed so hard it brought me to the floor and almost had me puking. I understand where all these stories come from now, stuff aint no joke. Had a good rest day and decent sleep, going to do some abs/calves/forearms and crush legs the next day.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-29-2012, 10:36 PM

This tren cough is starting to hit me every pin. Shit's brutal.

**MickeyKnox** · 11-29-2012, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnnyBlazzze

This tren cough is starting to hit me every pin. Shit's brutal.

Without looking back, are you still running 75mg Tren ED?

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-29-2012, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Without looking back, are you still running 75mg Tren ED?

Yep 75mg ED.

**Lunk1** · 11-29-2012, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnnyBlazzze

This tren cough is starting to hit me every pin. Shit's brutal.

Where are you doing your injects. Cpl things I do to help. Obviously push crazy slow and also I load the tren before the test so that the oil on my pin is test. YES...I know the cough comes from any gear so call it phsycological

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-29-2012, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Where are you doing your injects. Cpl things I do to help. Obviously push crazy slow and also I load the tren before the test so that the oil on my pin is test. YES...I know the cough comes from any gear so call it phsycological

I'm going to look more into it. It seems like it is happening more often now that I am deeper into the cycle. I never get the cough from the prop or any other gear I've ran, only tren . I load and pin with 2 separate syringes not 1.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-29-2012, 11:02 PM

Delts/Glutes/Chest to answer your question Lunk.

Used to get the cough only in delts last week, now I get it in every spot, more intense as last week to.

**Lunk1** · 11-29-2012, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnnyBlazzze

I'm going to look more into it. It seems like it is happening more often now that I am deeper into the cycle. I never get the cough from the prop or any other gear I've ran, only tren. I load and pin with 2 separate syringes not 1.

Originally Posted by JohnnnyBlazzze

Delts/Glutes/Chest to answer your question Lunk.

Used to get the cough only in delts last week, now I get it in every spot, more intense as last week to.

Hmmm...I have only gotten it quads and I assume because of so many blood vessels. Would think delts would be a lesser chance of cough.

Why 2 pins instead of one? Save the scar tissue buildup..hell your pinning plenty at ED the way it is!

**MickeyKnox** · 11-29-2012, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by JohnnnyBlazzze

Yep 75mg ED.

Atta boy Johnny! Hang in there cowboy! Im following along loving this cycle.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-29-2012, 11:13 PM

Originally Posted by Lunk1

Hmmm...I have only gotten it quads and I assume because of so many blood vessels. Would think delts would be a lesser chance of cough.

Why 2 pins instead of one? Save the scar tissue buildup..hell your pinning plenty at ED the way it is!

I used to think the same with delts. From my readings and research I'm starting to think it is a combination of it seeping into the blood vessels and more so happening because my body has built up so much over the past 3 weeks.

It's happened pretty much everyday since start of week 4 now and before that It happened maybe 1 or 2 in weeks 1-3.

I used to mix my gear in 1 syringe and pin. I still sometimes do. I just prefer the 2 separate pins of the 2 different oils to get the precise dosage I'm shooting for. More of a psychological/ OCD type thing

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**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-29-2012, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

Atta boy Johnny! Hang in there cowboy! Im following along loving this cycle.

I'm still in it to win it. The cough just starting to bug

. I hate it but at times enjoy it for the peace of mind of the legitimacy of my gear. I just hope it dials down a bit.

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 11-30-2012, 01:03 PM

Week 4 Day 27 Thursday (Nov 28) - Prami .6mg - 203.2lbs

Had a great workout, going to switch my routine up a bit and focus more on the quality of my workouts rather then the quantity. Feel like I'm changing things a lot but i feel its the best to adjust determining on how I feel, really trying to just listen to my body and go with the flow. Diet was perfection and sleep was even better. Ready to smash down on this upcoming weekend with some solid workouts. Everything feeling great right now. Should have some comparison pics up from start compared to the end of week 4. Will see how they come out. I pretty much look as lean as i did at 185 but I'm at 205-206 by end of day now and I'm happy with the results so far. Adding mass with minimal fat gain is the goal. Not sure If ill even need to cut after this
bulk.

**bskeys44** · 12-01-2012, 03:52 AM

Tru tren cough is something that happens later not when you pin. I get that from pinning anything. I've even got it pinning Deca or prop or test E. tren cough is a consistent cough that goes on through the day and night
And only a small percentage of people get it. I don't understand why you running Tren A everyday. Your just wasting it. I train and work with a lot of pros and I'm a professional Powerlifter myself. I run trenA at 100 EOD. And see great results. Your receptors can only absorb so much. I have one of the greatest doctors in the world as far as how to run gear. Dorian Yates only ran 300mgs test prop pre contest. More is not always better. Tren is not a drug to be ****ing around with. Nor should it ever be run for a long period of time. I've never even read anyone ever taking this everyday. Your just gonna be sore from all the pinning. Like I said I do 100 Mgs EOD. I just finished a cycle. My bench went from 440 to 490. I'm a 175 pounds by the way with 3 APA world records. Tren is by far my favorite to run. You might wanna do some more research on this before running it again. Tren isn't cheap either. So ED use is gonna cost you. Why spend it of you don't have to?

**Lunk1** · 12-01-2012, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by bskeys44

Tru tren cough is something that happens later not when you pin. I get that from pinning anything. I've even got it pinning Deca or prop or test E. tren cough is a consistent cough that goes on through the day and night
And only a small percentage of people get it. I don't understand why you running Tren A everyday. Your just wasting it. I train and work with a lot of pros and I'm a professional Powerlifter myself. I run trenA at 100 EOD. And see great results. Your receptors can only absorb so much. I have one of the greatest doctors in the world as far as how to run gear. Dorian Yates only ran 300mgs test prop pre contest. More is not always better. Tren is not a drug to be ****ing around with. Nor should it ever be run for a long period of time. I've never even read anyone ever taking this everyday. Your just gonna be sore from all the pinning. Like I said I do 100 Mgs EOD. I just finished a cycle. My bench went from 440 to 490. I'm a 175 pounds by the way with 3 APA world records. Tren is by far my favorite to run. You might wanna do some more research on this before running it again. Tren isn't cheap either. So ED use is gonna cost you. Why spend it of you don't have to?

I don't know how to say this other than your an idiot! If you and your "team" of knowit all's actually KNEW anything you would KNOW that the BEST way to pin ANY gear is EOD. No matter the ester this would allow the most stable blood levels! Tren Ace has an ester that is even shorter than prop (not by much but still) and therefore it really is best to be injected ED alothough EOD does suffice!

Tren cough is a mad up name and doesnt exist. As you stated you can get the "cough" from any gear! "The cough" NEVER lasts all day, Tren or otherwise! Check his mg per week...it is not a high dose and won't cost him anymore to inject ED vs EOD vs 6x a day as long as the dose is divided equally! While Tren may cost more than Test it's not like it's any higher than most steroids ...maybe your getting hosed!

This is a solid ass cycle JV is running and I'm pretty sure he has done plenty of research...although it would appear you might benifit from some more yourself! 175lbs tossing 490...love to see a pic or maybe a youtube link!!

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 12-01-2012, 07:06 PM

Week 4 Day 28 Friday (Nov 30) - Prami .6mg Aromasin 12.5mg - 204.1lbs

Still hanging around the low 200's, I might have a cheat meal and see if i can boost things up. Had one of the best leg days
since I started my cycle. Ridiculous strength gains, this is what I have been waiting for. Hit all new personal bests and I'm
reminded why I enjoy and love training so much. I think I have isolated the Tren cough dilemma, Going to pin tomorrow and see if i get it. Sleep has been decent, like I said, If I didn't have zzzquil I would never sleep. It's an absolute must. Starting
to look big, Been looking at myself in the mirror for longer then usual

. I'm getting massive amounts of attention from woman. Catch some eye gazers in the gym and they quickly look away like they wern't looking. Some girls I've been talking to get flustered when we talk

. Not the kind of guy to get a big head but want to log everything going on

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**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 12-01-2012, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by bskeys44

Tru tren cough is something that happens later not when you pin. I get that from pinning anything. I've even got it pinning Deca or prop or test E. tren cough is a consistent cough that goes on through the day and night
And only a small percentage of people get it. I don't understand why you running Tren A everyday. Your just wasting it. I train and work with a lot of pros and I'm a professional Powerlifter myself. I run trenA at 100 EOD. And see great results. Your receptors can only absorb so much. I have one of the greatest doctors in the world as far as how to run gear. Dorian Yates only ran 300mgs test prop pre contest. More is not always better. Tren is not a drug to be ****ing around with. Nor should it ever be run for a long period of time. I've never even read anyone ever taking this everyday. Your just gonna be sore from all the pinning. Like I said I do 100 Mgs EOD. I just finished a cycle. My bench went from 440 to 490. I'm a 175 pounds by the way with 3 APA world records. Tren is by far my favorite to run. You might wanna do some more research on this before running it again. Tren isn't cheap either. So ED use is gonna cost you. Why spend it of you don't have to?

Duly noted bud

**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 12-02-2012, 11:28 AM

Week 5 Day 29 Saturday (Dec 1) - Prami .6mg - 203.6lbs

Had a cheat meal yesterday which was great to finally eat something different and pig out. Still didn't change weight much
which is crazy becuase I'm eating like a horse and I haven't done cardio in a long time. My diet for this upcoming week will
include some increased food intake so hopefully will see some more weight gain. I'm still happy with how I look and getting
bigger. Did back workout and was the best back workout I've had in a long time. My workouts are all phenomenal and it's what I love. Everything going great so far, not to bad of sides. Not having much of night sweats, but did have the weirdest dream last night. Have chest day coming up, hoping to hit some personal best. I know I said I would get some pics but my friend was working and she said she will come over pretty soon and Ill try to get them up. Meanwhile enjoy the avi

. Wanted to note that my sexual endurance is absolutely through the roof right now as well

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**JohnnnyBlazzze** · 12-02-2012, 07:31 PM

Ran into a bit of a problem. I need to travel overseas here next weekend smack dab in the middle of my cycle.

Been doing a bit of research and not sure what to do...

If anybody has experience with traveling with gear overseas I would love to hear