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    fitizens_united is offline New Member
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    Test-E/Dbol Cycle

    I'm starting my first cycle next week, and I thought it would be best to start my log early so people can critique my diet/routine/cycle before I commit to it.

    Stats:
    24 years old
    14% BF
    171 lbs 5'8"

    I wasn't going to run my cycle until this Winter, but I had some bloodwork done two weeks ago and my doctor let me know that I have low testosterone . Instead of opting into TRT, I let her know that I want to run cycles and cruise in between them. She works with all kinds of athletes and bodybuilders (University of Michigan physician) and agreed that if I'm looking into a lifetime of weight training and naturally low-t, that this option would benefit me more.

    I'm going to attach my bloodwork to this post if anyone wants to look at it. I'll be getting mid-cycle and post-cycle work as well. I'm glad that I can confide with my physician about this choice and have it off my medical record.

    Cycle:
    Dianabol (2 weeks 25mg/2 weeks 50mg (if tolerance is assessed and no harsh sides found)
    Test-E 500mg (10 weeks)
    Clomid 100/100/50/50 (14 days after last pin)
    Nolvadex 40/40/20/20 (14 days after last pin)
    Aromasin on hand if needed. Might run it 12.5mg EOD during PCT and reduce Nolva to 20/20/20/20.

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    I have mild hypothyroidism, so I'm planning a 3,500 calorie diet. I was making decent gains on 3,100 with my natural test levels.

    Diet:
    3,500 Calories (45/40/15)
    Protein: 394g
    Carbs: 350g
    Fat: 58g

    This is what I'm aiming for daily. I personally have no problem eating the same exact meals every single day for an indefinite amount of time (I did it for 18 months when I lost 200 lbs). Also, I can't handle gluten or dairy well. So over this next week I'll be building my daily diet. This is where I'm at right now...

    Meal 1:
    4 Egg Whites (128cal/32p/0c/0f)
    Tyson Grilled Steak (280cal/36p/2c/12f)
    Banana (105cal/0p/27c/0f)
    8oz OJ (110cal/2p/26c/0f)
    Total: (623cal/70p/55c/12f)

    Snack 1:
    Apple (95cal/0p/25c/0f)
    1 cup Grapes (104cal/1p/27c/0f)
    Tuna (110cal/16p/2c/4f)
    Total: (309cal/17p/54c/4f)

    Meal 2: (Not finished)
    1 cup leaf spinach

    Pre-workout:
    1 scoop On Whey Isolate (140cal/30p/3c/1f)
    Banana (105cal/0p/27c/0f)
    2 tbsp Powdered Peanut Butter (45cal/8p/5c/1.5f)
    Total: (290cal/38p/35c/2.5f)

    Post-Workout:
    3 scoops On Whey Isolate (420cal/90p/9c/3f)
    2 tbsp Powdered Peanut Butter (45cal/8p/5c/1.5f)
    2 Ensure Shake (500cal/18p/80c/12f)
    Total: (965cal/116p/94c/16.5f)

    Meal 3: (Not finished)
    2 Boxes Butterball Grilled Chicken (360cal/72p/8c/6f)
    4 Eggs Whites (128cal/32p/0c/0f)


    Snack 2: (Not finished)

    Running Total:
    2675 Calories (825 remaining)
    345g Protein (44g remaining)
    246g Carbs (104g remaining)
    41g Fat (17g remaining)

    I have a week to get that sorted out.

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    I've been tweaking and exploring a routine that works for me to go around my poor joint health (I have Ehlers-Danlos) and I found what I believe to be the best routine for me. Please let me know what you think. I've tried some more common lifts that aren't in here, primarily because they are too much for certain joints (opting for plate raises instead of front DB raises to avoid shoulder pain for example). I'm aware that strength gains might catch up to my joints as well, and I'm prepared to do as much as I can to gauge my limits and handle the situation if it arises. Because I'm focusing on high hypertrophy anyways, I don't see it being too much of a problem.

    Routine:
    Chest
    ~~~~~~
    Incline Bench
    Decline Bench
    Flat Bench
    Incline Fly
    Weighted Dips
    Exhaust: Chest Press

    Arms
    ~~~~~
    Tricep Pulldown
    Overhead Tricep Extension
    Skullcrushers
    Standing Barbell Curl
    Hammer Curl
    Concentration Curls
    Cable Rope Facepulls
    Exhaust: Preacher Curls

    Back
    ~~~~~
    Barbell Bent Over Row
    One-arm DB Rows
    Wide Grip Lat Pulldown
    Lat Pullover
    Shrugs
    Deadlift
    Close Grip Lat Pulldown
    Reverse Fly
    Exhaust: Cable Row

    Shoulders
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    Lateral Raise
    Plate Raise
    Upright EZ-Bar Row
    Military Press
    Face Pulls
    Exhaust: Arnold Press

    Legs
    ~~~~~
    Front Squat
    Good Mornings
    Hack Squat
    Leg Curl
    Leg Extension
    Calf Raises
    Exhaust: Leg Press

    Abs & Core EoD
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    Side Planks (2 minutes x 3)
    Sit Ups (30 x 3)
    Ab Wheel (5 x 5)
    Reg. Planks (2 minutes x 3)
    Oblique Crunches (15 x 4 (2 each side))
    Hip Raises (15 x 2)
    Hanging Leg Raises (15 x 2)

    All lifts are 12/10/8 and 10/10/10 (with the exception of abs/core).

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    I would run aromasin for cycle duration

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    Quote Originally Posted by EKFitness View Post
    I would run aromasin for cycle duration
    That's what my original plan was. It was brought to my attention that unless sides are present it shouldn't be run until at least 2 or 3 weeks in. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitizens_united View Post
    I have mild hypothyroidism, so I'm planning a 3,500 calorie diet. I was making decent gains on 3,100 with my natural test levels.

    Diet:
    3,500 Calories (45/40/15)
    Protein: 394g
    Carbs: 350g
    Fat: 58g

    This is what I'm aiming for daily. I personally have no problem eating the same exact meals every single day for an indefinite amount of time (I did it for 18 months when I lost 200 lbs). Also, I can't handle gluten or dairy well. So over this next week I'll be building my daily diet. This is where I'm at right now...

    Meal 1:
    4 Egg Whites (128cal/32p/0c/0f)
    Tyson Grilled Steak (280cal/36p/2c/12f)
    Banana (105cal/0p/27c/0f)
    8oz OJ (110cal/2p/26c/0f)
    Total: (623cal/70p/55c/12f)

    Snack 1:
    Apple (95cal/0p/25c/0f)
    1 cup Grapes (104cal/1p/27c/0f)
    Tuna (110cal/16p/2c/4f)
    Total: (309cal/17p/54c/4f)

    Meal 2: (Not finished)
    1 cup leaf spinach

    Pre-workout:
    1 scoop On Whey Isolate (140cal/30p/3c/1f)
    Banana (105cal/0p/27c/0f)
    2 tbsp Powdered Peanut Butter (45cal/8p/5c/1.5f)
    Total: (290cal/38p/35c/2.5f)

    Post-Workout:
    3 scoops On Whey Isolate (420cal/90p/9c/3f)
    2 tbsp Powdered Peanut Butter (45cal/8p/5c/1.5f)
    2 Ensure Shake (500cal/18p/80c/12f)
    Total: (965cal/116p/94c/16.5f)

    Meal 3: (Not finished)
    2 Boxes Butterball Grilled Chicken (360cal/72p/8c/6f)
    4 Eggs Whites (128cal/32p/0c/0f)


    Snack 2: (Not finished)

    Running Total:
    2675 Calories (825 remaining)
    345g Protein (44g remaining)
    246g Carbs (104g remaining)
    41g Fat (17g remaining)

    I have a week to get that sorted out.
    U DN NEED 400 G PROTEIN CUT IT DOWN TO 1 TO 1.5 G/LB UP UR CARBS AND FATS AS SAID BY EK RUN AROMASIN THROUGH OUT IT LL HELP WITH BLOAT AND WATER RETENTION ELS ALL LOOKS GOOD

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    before pics?

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