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06-15-2015, 12:41 PM #1
40y/o Female Log
Decided to do this cause not much out there for women. Currently on 5th 4wk var cycle.
This first post should bring most up to date.
2 years ago (yes everyone starts somewhere) I started with 2 rounds P90x, 1 round Insanity...
Fast Forward....
1 year ago I joined a real gym and am more determined than ever to see where I can take this.
Included are photos from Day 1 PRE ANYTHING
to DAY 1 GYM AND WEIGHTS to 1 FULL YEAR GYM TIME AND 4 CYCLES VAR
***on day one gym time I got serious about diet and cutting...wanted to see what I was starting with...well...let's say...lots of work needs to be put in!
Now...I will post my macros I have adhered to through all of this. Not many changes in them...until recently and well...I pigged out last month...think I needed it mentally as been through an entire slew of garbage since January so not looking forward to the next round of photos but even if I did slip on macros I have continued to put in the work AND know dropping body fat isn't my issue.
So here it goes...
6 day split
Shoulders twice, Legs twice, Chest Bis Tris once and Back once per week, Abs 6x per week
There has been ZERO cardio since last June 18 when I was completely shredded out for the first time in my life...naturally unless you count pre workout, BCAAs and protein powder. Even when doing cardio after joining the gym a year ago I kept it to 20 minutes post weights...and focus more on resistance training.
MACROS...yes I EAT A LOT HOWEVER I ALSO WORK LONG HOURS 6 DAYS/WEEK AND HAVE A PHYSICALLY DEMANDING JOB
(pro/carb/fat) in grams all excruciatingly clean food sources split into 6 meals/day
Began: pro-170g carb-190g fat-70g
After cutting for 6 weeks began adding more food gradually (NOT MUCH)
Pro-180 Carb-190 Fat-80
6 more weeks
Pro-190 Carb-190 Fat-90
6 more weeks
Pro 200 Carb-200 Fat-90
This is where I try to stay...but again...last month was awful. So what...dust the dirt off and focus!
Well that's it and hopefully this will help someone else see it's a continuous process and anything is possible if you bust your a** day in and day out. Now..time to go make delts. Have a great day and thank you for checking this log out.
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Great progress!
Glad your starting a log . It's great to see all you females logging your cycles!
Subscribed!
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06-15-2015, 03:38 PM #3Originally Posted by NACH3
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06-15-2015, 04:16 PM #4
More info...had to stop earlier...life demands
Ok...all cycles have been 4wks on 4wks off
Cycle 1-3 was 5mg
Experience...
Good stuff-crazy pumps, def strength gains, started hardening up within 4 days, hair and nails grew super fast, def increase in libido/sensitivity and an overall really good experience
Bad stuff/sides-headache, irritable, increased hunger
Cycle 4 was 10mg
Good stuff-same as above and started adding a little size...of course body far was increasing cause of food so now the newbie thinks she is HUGE!!! Baaaa haaaa haaaaa not really but still feeling bigger
Bad stuff-same as 5mg HOWEVER...week 3 started having major muscle cramping at night in hands, feet and calves...increased water but didn't help. Noticed an increase in heart rate...made sure to monitor it and since it was always in a safe range dealt with it for the full 4 weeks. The WORST though was after the cycle...major water retention, major joint pain. It was horrendous and lasted for 2 weeks.
CYCLE 5...decided to keep it at 5mg as did not enjoy the cramping or the way I felt after stopping week 4 of 10mg.
Currently 2 weeks into cycle 5 and will keep things posted.
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06-15-2015, 05:21 PM #5
Wow. Wow. Wow. U should be competing!!! Awesome transformation by diet and exercise alone. Impressive. Inspiring.
Now about your joint pain and headaches. Did u ever have your var tested? dry joints - a telling side of winny. Also the headaches.
Water retention, clit sensitivity all fall into typical AAS sides.
Did u notice any uptick in hair loss????
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06-15-2015, 05:49 PM #6
Thank you! Have def worked harder this year than ever in my life when it comes to this stuff and learned a ton of valuable lessons...not just physical ones either! Gonna have the var tested ASAP! So still unsure. Also going to check out Marcus log in a bit.
No hair loss so that's good and skin did break out a little bit after the 4th four week cycle but not during. You know what's strange...all of this makes me feel like the first time you stick your toe in water at the pool or beach...little by little you get used to it and little by little you get just a bit further along...
Lots of people either look at me strangely in the gym or ask if I compete. I did consider it last year but after that first shred I realized I was going to really have to concentrate on adding some size. It's taking awhile but there is no big hurry. Competing is super expensive from the research I have done so no need to do it prematurely...especially since I love doing this anyway.
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06-15-2015, 06:17 PM #7
I am really thinking you may have gotten winny. Winny is notorious for hair loss, dry joints and headaches. Winny is cheaper to make then var and primo.
I thought I had winny and maybe it was but severely underdosed. I did have more headaches on this.
Hmmmmm. I am interested in what you find out.
Competing is expensive. Everything about it! And I understand putting it off. You would need to put on some muscle, selectively.
Yes. The toe in water analogy is good. I am feeling the draw as I continue my cycle. It's the results that just have the feeling of accomplishment!!!
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06-15-2015, 06:34 PM #8
Great transformation!!
Following
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06-16-2015, 05:06 PM #9
Today,
5mg Anavar (seriously worried now it's not but am half way through 4 cycle and making progress, going to keep doing what I'm doing and should know in a cple days for sure what the heck I have been on now for 4 full cycles...joys of being new!)
Everything is harder and rounder
Water retention is def present however this is our first heat wave (105) and have always had a problem with water retention and heat since pregnancy with twins.
Strength is slowly inching up but also erring on the side of caution after the last cycle at 10mg/day...when I came off joint pain and muscle cramps were like nothing I ever experienced in my life...another reason why I opted to go back to 5mg/day.
Weight has remained steady these last 2 weeks since starting and still sitting at 136
Hunger...it hasn't gone away...swear I have been hungry for the entire last year since joining a gym and lifting weights.
Skin...def more oily than normal but again sweating more due to heat.
Today's Lift
Heads up...I am always able to say what weight I did however don't ever count reps...I go until I can not go anymore. Have learned that counting reps holds me back from reaching failure...kind of a mind game...its like...oh...I am close to the max reps better stop and then don't push to go to failure. That being said I do always get 4 solid reps...after that I have to force myself not to count and that's if I can do anymore.
Ok...so today was 4 sets of each movement and drop set 10 pounds every time twice except leg press where dropped 90 each time
Single Leg Extensions
4 sets/?reps/(50/40/30)
Single Leg Hamstring curls
4 sets/?reps/(40/30/20)
Leg Press (wide super set with narrow stance)
4 sets/?reps/(360/270/180)
***only include plate weight cause honestly
no need to start that argument
Squats WIDE DEEP AND BELOW PARALLEL
4 sets/?reps/(185/165/145)
Smith Machine Lunges
2 sets each leg (65) don't count reps...it was
my finisher
Then quick single leg seated calves each leg 3 times alternating foot position. center, in, outward 30 pounds super squeeze till failure
The end
Please don't be nitpicky... I'm still learning all these technical terms and gym language.
Thanks everyone for checking it out...NOW DINNER!!!!
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06-16-2015, 07:22 PM #10Originally Posted by itsmybody
Do u stretch before and after?
The only thing that doesn't match up with winny sides is the water retention. Normally has a dry look to go along with the dry joints. Fish oil may help. MSM takes several weeks to load in system so maybe for next cycle!
I feel like a sponge in this high humidity. I took a diuretic this morning and haven't stopped peeling even after an hour of cardio. I had a little cramping this evening so just downed some water and now can wander too far from the loo. LoL
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06-16-2015, 08:17 PM #11Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
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06-16-2015, 08:42 PM #12Originally Posted by itsmybody
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06-16-2015, 09:11 PM #13Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
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06-17-2015, 06:36 PM #14
I wanted to come back at you with the hunger. You said you have been hungry since you started lifting.
Why wouldn't you increase calories by a bit? 200 cal could help. Maybe you need to add some heathy fats to bring up the feeling of fullness.
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06-17-2015, 09:17 PM #15Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
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06-17-2015, 10:12 PM #16
Daily update. Tomorrow marks the end of week 3.
Still going with 5mg daily
Tomorrow will also be testing day to see if my anavar is actually winny. If it is oh well...too late now and lesson learned...test your goods.
Anyhow...sides are still the same only noticed skin was much more oily today. Not sure if it's the var or the 3rd day of 105 degree weather. Nothing that can not be managed with good hygiene. Of course have been exceptionally thirsty but this extra thirst is more likely due to the sudden jump in temperatures and the gym AC is not working.
Trained BACK
WIDE GRIP PULLUPS
4sets to failure
***did first set unassisted to failure
(I count the unassisted cause Im
freaking stoked that I can do
them and today was 7! Up 1
from last week...also I don't use
momentum to get up...learned
not to cheat right from the first
day at gym)
Last 3 sets assisted...went very slow, squeezed and paused at top.
CLOSE GRIP PULL UPS (palms facing eachother)
4 sets to failure
***same as above with first set unassisted...made it to 4...the wide grip ones are harder for me so these were second and that's just how I like to do it
Last 3 sets assisted to failure again slow and squeeze at top.
WIDE GRIP PULLDOWNS/SWEEPS SUPERSET
Wide grip: 3/failure
trying to go lighter on upper body to create balance with lower body.
SWEEPS 3/failure
Slow and Squeeze
CLOSE GRIP PULL DOWNS (palms facing each other) 3/failure
SUPERSET with
WIDE GRIP CABLE ROWS 3/failure
SLOW AND SQUEEZE
CLOSE GRIP CABLE ROWS
(palms facing each other) 3/failure
SUPERSET with BARBELL ROWS
3/failure
SLOW AND SQUEEZE
DECLINE CRUNCHES SUPERSET WITH BACK EXTENSIONS
SLOW AND SQUEEZE
Since I am using lower weight I concentrate on going really slow and squeezing as much as possible to emphasize the isolation.
Pretty exhausted from the heat and packing to move 6 hours away this weekend...hoping for cooler temps! Have a great evening!!!!
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06-18-2015, 04:00 AM #17Originally Posted by itsmybody
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06-18-2015, 04:49 AM #18Originally Posted by itsmybody
It occurs to me that I am impatient. You have been at this for 2 years. I shouldn't expect much in only 2 or 3 months.
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06-18-2015, 07:44 AM #19
Keep trying every time without an assist. Even if you only can pull up an inch just hold it there. These took the longest as my friend made me do them right from the start hanging straight down like dead weight. Once I got one they started to flow...took about 8-9 months! You will get it!!!!
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06-18-2015, 08:28 AM #20Originally Posted by itsmybody
I also need to loose 20 lbs. it will be much easier!!!
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06-18-2015, 12:16 PM #21
I disagree that pulldowns don't help, you just need to be pulling your weight or above your weight. I see men at the gym doing assisted and I want to bitch slap them. I am 270ish, pull ups and chins are difficult, buit I do them every workout, it is a challenge to try and do more every week.
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06-18-2015, 01:08 PM #22
I think there are a billion variations of chin ups and pull ups but do think they are two different movements and that although they both strengthen everything throughout the upper body imo the wide grip pull ups and the close grip (palms facing each other) pull ups are more effective at isolating the muscles I am trying to improve on. But...I'm not a trainer or a professional in the industry. I just love this stuff. Keep practicing and you will get it! Also agree trying just one a day for a while and hanging there should def help.
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06-20-2015, 01:31 PM #23
Sorry to miss a day...this is a seriously crazy week/weekend yesterday was legs and today chest/bi/triceps. Will post that info at end.
Nutrition-on point again...literally so over the top and determined like a lot of y'all everything is pre measured and pre portioned for each week so staying on top of it isn't so difficult and less room to eat too much/little if it's all prepped in advance.
Sides/Changes
well...oily skin and a tiny breakout.
Water retention is stickin around a bit but getting better as the body gets used to the 100+ weather. Last cycle joint pain was deadly but it may have been due to not enough water. This time no matter what I consume 1.5gal-2gal daily. The 2gal mark is helping a ton. It's not nearly as bad.
Mood-have come to the conclusion that this stuff just amplifies whatever mood I am in...when happy, it's 10 fold. When stressed, irritated, grumpy it's 20 fold. Basically going through the day keeping this in mind when someone pisses me off so I don't snap on them.
Libido...skyrocketing still...could be fun if I wasn't single!
Strength...def up...lifts are certainly getting easier and adding weight is no issue. Typically a 5/10 pound increment.
Focus...at an all time high hence creating a very bad mood if anyone gets in the way. Again trying to be conscious of this and breathe through it.
Pumps/Vascularity...not quite as much as last cycle however it was 10mg versus 5mg and I'm ok with that cause I do not want to experience locked joints again. Especially in hands and feet when trying to work or sleep.
Sleep...finally tried 5mg melotonin last night...been waking up every 2 hours like clockwork for months now. It was a very happy moment when I actually slept for 5 straight hours last night. Def gonna take it again tonight.
Size...noticeable difference in how clothing fits...aka...even the 'big girl' clothing of the past is too tight. Makes me happier than a pig in sh*t cause it let's me know things are def changing.
Weight...again I am trying to add mass not lean out so it's gone up since last summer when I completely shredded out about 15 pounds...was elated when I joined the buck thirty five club without much wiggle....big celebration day!!!!
That's it for now.
Now as promised yesterday was Legs...I despise doing Back the day before Legs however it was the only way I could work it in to line up with split this week. Trying to hit legs 3x per week...focussing on isolation 2 days and compound movements on the third. Apparently I have what is referred to a meso-ectomorph body and this seems to be working better than doing legs 2 days a week.
LEG EXTENSIONS (one leg at a time...drop set twice, 10 sets) at the end I think I'm gonna die but don't give a rats behind...quads have decided to finally join the party...those badboys are LATE!
LEG PRESS (10 sets wide stance super setted with close stance, drop set twice) again at the end there are some whimpers but gladly accept the whimpers since things are changing for the better.
...and to end on a beautiful note...
WEIGHTED WALKING LUNGES (4 sets of 25)
That was it. Took forever and don't care about that either. Gym time is my time. The End
Today's Enjoyment
(Chest Bis Tris)
As an added bonus got to have best friend (guy) who I haven't seen in 3 years go with me. It was my normal routine but absolutely kicked his a** and he will never lift with me again. THANK GOD! Not to be mean but I don't have time to stop every 20 secs.
MACHINE CHEST FLYS
Superset with PUSH UPS
3 sets...push-ups change from military, to wide
to standard with each set
INCLINE DUMBBELL PRESS
Superset with PUSH UPS
3 sets...same as above
FLAT DUMBBELL PRESS
3 sets
BARBELL BICEP CURLS
3 drop sets
DUMBBELL BICEP CURLS
3 sets, both arms and then each arm to failure
DUMBBELL HAMMER CURLS
3 sets, both arms then each arm to failure
TRICEP DIPS
3 sets
SKULL CRUSHERS
3 sets
CABLE TRICEP PUSH/PULL DOWNS
3 sets
Then went and helped move an oversize sleeper sofa and love seat up 4 flights of stairs.
Body hurts from top to bottom...thank Jesus for anavar and speedy recoveries. Pretty certain I may have overdone it.
Before anyone gets all fired up...yes failure every single time. Alway go with a 1 count on the positive and a 4 count on the negative.
Some people like to hit the gym and destroy the session in 45-60 minutes...not so much me...I take my time, focus on isolating and timing and enjoy every single second of it. So if it takes 2 hours I'm not bothered one bit what else would I be doing anyway? I don't drink, don't go to bars, don't eat out and don't watch tv.
Enjoy your weekend and have some fun...tomorrow is a much needed rest day!
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06-22-2015, 06:13 PM #24
Oh Monday....Best day to do Legs...everybody is hitting chest like freaking King Kong and I'm like...hell yeah...squat racks for yours truly!
In Atlanta this week so got to try a new gym. Very nice with a pool and sauna...it was fancy but no time for that craziness...this gal has goals!!!
Ques. Been doing 4 week cycles...don't like how I feel when coming off...birthday is in 2 weeks so thinking of adding an extra week so things don't get weird during bday. What do y'all think?
Ok...Today was Only 3 movements.
Lying Hamstring Curls...10 drop sets, each individual leg. Strength def up. Able to do 45/35/25 for the first 6 sets...of course after that things get super tough but upping legs to 3x per week with this split is def helping growth while paired with the var. Even starting to walk weird all the time cause not used to thighs being like this.
Squats...10 drop sets...FAILURE BELOW PARALLEL 165/145/125...again as the set continues I get fewer and fewer reps. By the end today I was barely able to do 2 at 165 with good form. Def did something right though cause at the end I puked. Some think that's gross...I think it's freaking awesome and signifies Job Well Done.
Finished off with 2 sets of 25 squats with just the squat bar and 4 sets of 30 weighted (40lb) walking lunges.
It was a good lift!
Now to keep that drive going while away from the home gym with so many temptations.
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06-22-2015, 06:29 PM #25
When did u start having joint pain 4th week right? But u were on higher dose. You have to decide if get joint pain post cycle will that pain be worth the minor birthday indiscretions?!?!
4 week cycle. Why so short? Some members like lower dose longer cycles for females. Less sides but quality gains over longer duration.
Lifts are insane. I haven't puked yet. Came close once but disappointed I didn't hurl.
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06-22-2015, 07:08 PM #26
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06-22-2015, 08:18 PM #27Originally Posted by kelkel
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06-22-2015, 08:32 PM #28Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
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06-22-2015, 09:21 PM #29Originally Posted by itsmybody
I have been reading more on pct for females - highly debated subject. With shorter lower dose cycle seems less need.
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06-23-2015, 02:47 AM #30Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
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Very interesting, your back looks awesome in your avi, btw!
So have you thought about competing! For yr round you stay damn lean mad props!
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06-23-2015, 04:25 PM #32Originally Posted by NACH3
....the year round lean thing....not sure how that is happening with everything I have been eating. Scale has been slowly creeping up since last June with a slow introduction of extra fats and proteins and zero cardio. Almost certain it's because I stick to all basics and rarely stray. Not feeling so lean right now w/the water retention due to the var combined with heat n humidity. Hello water buffaloitus! Def on the fence about incorporating cardio again to alleviate the water given it's taken a full year to get to where I'm at now. Scared to death to lose to fast and burn up all the hard work.
...competing...maybe next year....big time perfectionist and fully understand the importance of balance and symmetry. Thinking the legs need another full winter before I'm going to be able to be proportionate. Trying to lay off upper body and go lighter BUT ITS SO HARD CAUSE IT MAKES ME FEEL LAZY! There have been some people saying do compete now but you have to be mentally ready and confident before stepping on stage. Literally only started to lift about 2 years ago for fun and didn't get serious until last April. Then decided to accessorize (var) in March...that was 48 weeks into a determination to grow the wheels or die! Wanted to be sure to build a decent foundation before adding any extra help. Really excited to see where things are after this cycle...time will tell and we really can't rush this stuff so putting in the work and praying for the best. Wow...sorry for rambling...bad habit
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06-23-2015, 05:59 PM #33
I have no ambition to compete. I encourage you to read logs in competitive lifting forum if you haven't. It seems the first comp is a learning experience in itself. Many report learned what to do, what not to do and the judges comments gave them the insight for next show. Practice perfect poses including the smiles and making connection to audience and judges. Some peak too early. Added carbs too late.
Anyone who steps on stage is a winner IMHO.
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06-23-2015, 06:09 PM #34Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
Competing is a hard decision for me. I love what I'm doing, have since day one. Concerned with all the horror stories that it will taint something I truly enjoy doing.
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06-23-2015, 07:10 PM #35Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
One of my biggest concerns with competing is that I truly enjoy what we do. I don't want competing to ever take away from something I enjoy and have heard/read so many horror stories. Not sure it's worth the risk.
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06-24-2015, 03:12 PM #36
Somehow got lost on the forum and didn't update this log yesterday.
Out of town this week so it's been a new gym daily. Mond location was great...yesterday not so much and today's location was moderate...really need to find one that isn't so froo froo!!!! I don't need bells n whistles to take care of what I come to do. The less is more approach seems to be the happy place for me. Old school lifts and old school equipment...tomorrow the search continues as I may permanently be moving here for work.
SIDES UPDATE:::::
Still quick to get grumpy and impatient
Hair and Nails are growing super fast, kind of cool and kind of a pain.
Appetite has gone down, may be all the excitement of being out of town.
Still can not sleep through the night...wake up every 2 hours regardless of taking 10mg melatonin or not. May up that dosage. Sleep has been an issue for a full year now and it's catching up to me. Probably the biggest drawback of doing all the training. It was an issue before var and continues to be.
Still holding water however it seems to be slowly going down some. This of course is probably because it's not quite as humid here and been consuming roughly 2 gallons water daily.
Yesterday TUESDAY BACK DAY
Still trying to go lighter and stick with increased reps to allow time for legs to balance. This is gonna take eons. Sucks cause going full throttle is my favorite. All this light weight and a billion reps with major concentration on isolating the muscle, squeezing and keeping a good pace gets irritating. It is necessary though....
If you look back in this log you will see that I posted Back Day details before. Did the same thing. Bottom line, I am a methodical meticulous person who believes in extreme consistency to get exactly where I am trying to go over time. Only change is yesterday I only did 3 sets versus 4.
Today, DELTS
Again same as previous post only 3 sets versus 4. I still am on the fence about adding cardio into the mix so as any logical person would do, left it out until I'm really ready to tackle it. Then it will be very short 20 min maximum HIIT. That's all I do and that's all it takes for me to lean out. Thank God cause that stuff drives me ape sh*t!!!'
Oh and yesterday's newest discovery....
Wait for it....
SWEET MOTHER MARY I HAVE PEC CLEAVAGE!
Welcome to the party Pecs, nice to meet you, y'all are pretty dang cute!!!!!!
(Yeah, I think they are cute...you guys probably just vomited in your mouths a little so if need be you can call them bad ass and I wouldn't disagree)
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06-24-2015, 07:38 PM #37
PEC cleavage. Funny!!!! Something to be proud of
Sides Are very different on us gals.
You can't sleep. I can't get enough sleep.
Not noticing any change in hair and nails growth.
Both have water retention.
Interesting.
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06-24-2015, 09:24 PM #38Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
Sides....it is strange how they aren't the same. Guess all of our bodies respond differently.
How are you @girly?
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06-24-2015, 09:39 PM #39Originally Posted by itsmybody
I am better today but extremely fatigued. Work. Stressful. Too many hours. Need vacation.
Yesterday I had a moment and was wondering if my response wasn't related to cycle. Irritable. Atypical for me. Gonna keep an eye on this and protect against it.
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06-25-2015, 04:47 AM #40Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
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