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07-22-2015, 01:03 PM #161Originally Posted by Mr.BB
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07-22-2015, 03:06 PM #162
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07-22-2015, 03:19 PM #163Originally Posted by Mr.BB
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07-22-2015, 05:24 PM #164Originally Posted by Mr.BB
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07-22-2015, 05:24 PM #165Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
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07-22-2015, 06:15 PM #166
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Haha sorry to break up the party
Taking that wk break is a crucial part of letting the cns recover from the daily beating you put it through on cycle! well deserved!
Regarding metabolism - it's possible - your right tho many variables - I want to look into this - it's no coincidence every time IMB hits hard post cycle - it's happened every cycle from her first to now exactly the same way!
IMB, do you taper down?? I'm not sure if this would help Eliminate all the sides but should make them more. Tolerable... I have nothing backing this idea up - but I shall look when I have more time...
Glad your feeling better, IMB!
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07-23-2015, 11:32 AM #168
Haven't tapered down however have decided to drop from 5mg to 2.5mg on next go round in a few weeks to see if it helps. Can not stand the crash! Have no clue first off why 10mg is too much for me as many females use this as a standard with no issues. Also not sure why coming off has been so rough. Still like the fact that it's been consistent and like clock work each time now with the various little sides. Always learning
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07-23-2015, 11:38 AM #169Originally Posted by NACH3
Also yes taking a 1 week hiatus that started Tuesday. Kind of cheating a little as have been doing 20 min HIIT cardio daily but as stated before...will go more nutty than usual if i don't do anything
I know the body needs a break as being tired is still ever present..more than likely a combo of 14 months straight of 6 day split w/o any time off, coming out of a very long stint (almost a full year) of 70-80 hr/work weeks and not sleeping more than 2-3hrs/straight in over a year. Hope this helps.
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We are very similar when it comes to sleep(or lack of) no more than 1-2hrs at a time for yrs now(me - so I can sympathize w/ya on that)...
Also, your metabolism is far higher than most - as I've been watching what you eat daily - & it's far more than some men eat on here... And your much leaner than most! Not a bad thing but sometimes a PIA to add the weight/or muscle tissue we want / keep doing you - it's working great - now we just have to figure out what's causing your crash like its happening!
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07-23-2015, 12:21 PM #171
Day 16 Post Cycle....sides of coming off should be over by now...not so much.
Joints still hurt in hands...as usual right hand worse than left
Head ache still present
Skin however has not broken out at all this time.
Another thing...when running 10mg per day feet would freeze up and leg cramps would occur at night. This time back at 5mg/day it's just the hands...so I really think those two items are related to dosage and amount of water consumed. Def going to stick with the 5mg/daily until body requires more. Also have def learned 2gal/water/day helps tons versus 1gal/day. Even throughout cycle water retention still occurred it was not nearly as bad as the last cycle.
Have also decided for me personally var is great for recompositioning and bulking but do not need it for cutting. I am able to do that naturally.
Still firmly believe you need to be pretty much 100% over the top militant about nutrition during cycle and post cycle.
Pumps tend to dissipate after ending cycle after about a week.
Also...many lose strength n size post cycle....thus far strength/size continues post cycle for me. This is exciting as my body is able to stay lean while increasing size and strength (even if it's not much size it is size). It's also exciting cause each time a cycle ends and preparations begin for a new one I know I will be setting new PRs at this point.
Last bit...sorry guys if discussions of menstrual stuff bothers you however this needs to be noted for other females who may or may not need more info. Again this is log of how my body has reacted and everyone is different.
Now.... Ladies...and gents who are curious or want to learn more.....
1. still no period in over a year.
2. period stopped when body fat dropped to under 10% (posting cpl pics to show case in point that it truly was under 10%)
3. period stopped and body fat dropped truly through natural dieting and training...NO GEAR OR FAT BURNERS.
4. even though BF has come up and size has increased the current low BF combined with Var means still no period.
5!!!!! LADIES BE ADVISED!!!!!! Just because you don't have a period does not mean you can not get pregnant. Have done a ton of research on this and you absolutely can get pregnant and you can get pregnant while on gear. DOUBLE UP ON PROTECTION!!!! If you do become pregnant while on gear you will have some really tough decisions ahead of you so it's honestly IMO to be extra cautious!
Well that's it. Will let you know when joints n headache stop being an issue.
Taking entire week off of weights, allowing only 20 min HIIT cardio sessions daily to give body a break...think it's needed.
Also probably gonna have to take a break from posting as often cause it drives me bonkers to read other peoples lifting sessions n not be lifting too this week!!!!
Oh yeah...here are the 'peeled' aka 'naked banana' pics....I firmly do not suggest any females drop body fat this low unless they are going to compete. It's hard on you not only physiologically but also very mentally taxing.
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07-23-2015, 12:36 PM #172
Ok....photos didn't go through...here
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Wow!!! What is your bf?? Your fvkin lean as all hell! In those ab shots your 'worms'(aka - veins) are crazy awesome! Your back is very lean and you've got bowling balls for shoulders!
I know you said var is a great recomp/bulking cycling for you... Im excited to see when you do jump into something else or a stack of somekind(primo what I had in mind)... Whenever your ready - I agree if the compound is still working - then grow into your cycles... Great job! And yes it's what you do outside the gym(eating/resting/recovering = growth
AWESOMESAUCE!!!
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07-23-2015, 01:01 PM #174Originally Posted by NACH3
On left I weight was 116 on right (current) weight is at 136.
So that's an increase of 20 pounds in a year...a combo of fat, water and muscle. Wish I could do a Deca scan to find out. Calipers and those electronic things in gym are way too inaccurate.
Good news is if...big if....I compete I have 10 months to try n bring legs up. They have come a long way so I know there is hope
Thank you for the compliments. Def wouldn't be possible though without really good macros!
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07-23-2015, 01:12 PM #175
Yeah you look amazing great work!! Hard work and dedicating the time to it pays off! Your shoulders like nach said are ridiculous, and that core looks rock solid. Your legs really aren't to bad and if your competing In figure you wouldn't really have to bring them up to much! Very nice overall well rounded physique.
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07-23-2015, 08:25 PM #176Originally Posted by GingerbeardJ
Shoulders...think they came from years of competitive gymnastics as they were the easiest to get. Who knows...our bodies are very strange in how each of us reacts and grows differently. Guess why that's why there is so much conflicting info out there....what works for one person many times will set another person back, especially with food!
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07-23-2015, 10:17 PM #177
IMB. Read thru this, maybe has something to offer.
Women and AAS. Doses and durations, Questions and Answers
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07-24-2015, 05:13 AM #178Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
Going to run the next cycle at 5mg again...really need to read up more on Clomid for PCT (even though it is said females do not need PCT. I know for certain even at this low dose my crash is a lot more bothersome than the other 2 females I know who use it at 10mg-2mg. They also stack with T3 and Winny. Def staying away from Winny as joints already kick my a$$!
Interested also in primo but really do not see a need to go another direction as of yet since I'm still making progress with var. So many choices and combos. Need to keep researching!!!
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08-13-2015, 12:25 PM #179
MIA....I'm alive!
1. Started new job which has kept me busy combined with usual a$$ busting in gym sessions.
2. Had a very very very slight period after a year so not so freaked out.
3. Post cycle...only issue leftover is joints. Those b*tches are still screaming that I most certainly pushed the envelope on the last cycle. YAHHHOOOO, if you are gonna do it, do it as hard as you possibly can! Ummm...with caution and without injury preferably!
4. Think I'm gonna drop body fat over the next two weeks and run another 5 weeker...still undecided but since I did have a slight period mentally feel better about running again. Just wanted to make sure all systems were go first.
5. Gains from last cycle still present but noticed strength comes and goes. May have something to do with lack of sleep and stress at new job too though.
Ok....miss you all but got to run....time is short!
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08-25-2015, 08:17 PM #180Originally Posted by itsmybody
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08-26-2015, 10:50 AM #181
2 weeks and still ache but began another cycle anyway. Here we go again...blast off. So here is my theory. Also have an appointment set up with new PCP on Friday, (remember just moved...doc shopping sucks) back to theory...
So AAS speeds up everything.
I am 40 and have not been good to my joints. Spent entire youth as a competitive gymnast starting at 3 and ending at 15 when dance completely took over. Then worked as professional dancer for greater part of adult life...CLARIFY, PROFESSIONAL BROKE STARVING DANCER...not the kind that get to party and make money, I was less glamorous and kind that wore ballet shoes that destroy your toes and leotards, hair always pulled way back in bun swan lake kind of dancer although did lots of shoes other than swan lake that were much more modern. Sorry to disappoint guys. Then did mortgages for 5 years till market crashed...after that more body stress from long hours bartending and managing restaurants. So....taking all that into account, thinking the AAS sped up what was going to eventually rear it's ugly little head at some point. Hello arthritis at 41. Ughhhhh. Of course I'm not a physician and will wait for a real diagnosis but that's the hunch. What do you think?
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08-26-2015, 05:03 PM #182
My joints are all messed up as well from motocross racing and rock climbing. I've been adding 10mg/ED of Anadrol to my AAS cycle + 4iu of Humulin R insulin post-workout this past week to help the joints - been working very very well and I'm back in the gym after some unfortunate rest days. Highly recommend looking into those options (I re-cap my 50mg Anadrol into 5mg caps with a milligram scale and capsuline caps - same with my 20mg Var that I re-cap to 5mg).
Also if you're not already taking it then Glucosamine Sulfate supplements help with joints as well. I take 750mg/2x-day. Then there's cortisone injections, lidocaine trigger injections, and accupressure, and accupuncture.
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08-28-2015, 05:13 PM #183
Curious with new doctor input!
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08-30-2015, 09:05 AM #184Originally Posted by ambernightly
Been doing the Glucosamine Sulfate @750mg daily. Gonna bump it up as per your advice and doctors advice...750 morn/night. Problem is that it's interfering with work. Will also start researching your other suggestions.
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08-30-2015, 09:12 AM #185Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
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08-30-2015, 04:06 PM #186
Now you know and can take precautions! My mom keeps telling me that getting older is not for sissies. :/
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08-31-2015, 06:37 AM #187Originally Posted by GirlyGymRat
Ugh....any suggestions on bloodwork and how to explain weird numbers to doc w/o mentioning AAS? Don't need that in med history at all!!!!!
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08-31-2015, 08:45 AM #188Originally Posted by itsmybody
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